Hey all, and especially the lucky owner of HD 2.
I am wondering about several stuff about the HD 2 (i got the HD1)...
First,
In the past, i had a SE (now cost around 70 €) and the APN was really better than the one on the HD1. I mean, it was easy to make photo even with lack of luminosity, and a small move at the moment the picture was taken, wasn't making the picture blurred.
That's something i am really missing on my HD1, an average APN. What do you think about it? Did they improve the APN, or is it still a **** APN, like on all the HTC device ?
Important : I am not hoping to have good pictures like with a reflex APN, I am just wondering if the HTC HD 2's APN (600€) was finally as good as (or better) a ****ty SE (70€).
Second,
Compared to the HD1, do you think it's a big improvement? What about the fluidity, is it really improved compared to the HD1?
Third,
When i use an iPhone, i've got real difficulties to write, due to the small and the capacitive screen. I am from the HD1, and I was loving the screen. Is it still easy to write message with the HD2 keyboard & screen?
Finally
Thank you very much. Really sorry for my english, i hope it's understable..
video/pics demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-XoUL7nUpA&feature=player_embedded
Thank you, but it's not answering me at all.
All the pictures are taken in sunny conditions. The HD1, with a lot of luminosity took excellent picture. What about middle luminosity & darkness condition ?
Thank you
im just a little messenger with an old topaz ... xmoo was going to test in different conditions using a HD1 and a HD2 thouh, so i guess we'll have to wait for the results
sony ericssons phonecamera on the k810i was almost better than our home camera in good conditions, they do real good cameras...
cheers!
Yes it's easy to type on the screen because it is huge! It's almost as fluid as the iPhone and it is blazing fast. In comparison to my old raph it's a big difference. Sorry where that you questions?
Edit: I think your APN question is about the led (or camera steadiness). The led is good, I'm not overly impressed with the picture quality but I havent tested it very thoroughly,
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Edit 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-XoUL7nUpA&feature=player_embedded
My real main question is about the APN.
With my SE, it was easy to make photo even with lack of luminosity, and a small move at the moment the picture was taken, wasn't making the picture blurred. With the HD1, it's making this, what about the HD2 ?
Check out the you tube film and judge for yourself,
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No, because the youtube film is in sunny condition.
The HD1 was a really good APN in sunny condition, but directly there were a small lack of luminosity, it was blurring the picture.
I am awaiting for the ximoo comparative picture, hope it's coming soon..
Zepiii said:
No, because the youtube film is in sunny condition.
The HD1 was a really good APN in sunny condition, but directly there were a small lack of luminosity, it was blurring the picture.
I am awaiting for the ximoo comparative picture, hope it's coming soon..
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At the end he/she shows pictures in the dark....
Well, i watched it all, and the tennis ball picture isn't enough for me...
To be fair, phone cameras are never going to be that amazing guys.
If you really care about good camera quality, buy a small digital camera.
OH MY GOD !
It's always the same stupid answer...
As said in the post 1, I am coming from a Sony Ericsson before the HD1 which had a really GREAT APN compared to the HD1. I am asking if the HD2 finally got a decent APN as CHEAP SonyEricsson phone, and not if i want to buy a small digital camera !
UP...
Any news about the APN? Does someone having the HD2 made some test compared to the HD1 ? Mainly in darkness condition ?
Thank you
What's this "APN" thingie you keep talking about? Do you call the camera "APN" or is it some camera's feature/spec?
"Zepiii" please explain what is "APN" ?
You start a thread or post a question several hd2 threads about "APN"... But nobody knows wtf is it..
I think you mean "auto white balance", "iso sensivity" or something like that.. I'm google it last 10 minutes but no luck... (Believe me, 10 minutes for googling (!) is very loong time for me...)
Please enlight us about "APN"...
APN = Appareil Photo Numérique
It's a french expression that means camera.
DocteurN said:
APN = Appareil Photo Numérique
It's a french expression that means camera.
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So yeah, we should all know a french expression? .
Well I dont care too much for the camera, I have an iPhone at the moment and that one takes terrible pictures also. Those pics are only good for looking back on the phone itself. If you transfer them to your pc, they look really bad.
Oh yeah sorry !
APN is french, i totaly forgot !
APN = camera !
Well, if I've learned anything today (and I haven't) I am going to go about calling every single camera I come across from now on an APN. I like it.
I thought he was talking about a wifi access point
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I am pretty much dissapointed with the pictures I have obtained with my Universal's built in camera.
Sometimes - most of the times - dont really beleive it is a 1.3 MPixels cam.
So,
1. Do you think using another software to take pictures would improve performance/quality?
2. It is possible to use another software to manage the camera?
3. Maybe, it's just me not being able to use it properly. Any advice to get good quality pictures?
have you checked the pictures on your pc?
i thought this until i looked on the pc and they were actually pretty impressive, dont be fooled my the on screen preview after youve taken a pic
yes... checked them out on a PC.. but no good quality. The problem is that if you're taking good quality pictures.. the it must be me.. :?
Anyway I recon that good pictures can be obtained under good conditions (light, etc.), but indoors... no way, at least for me.
i've seen on my HTC wizard that in the registery the camera can be edited things like bitrate too, havent tried it yet.
Ive gone from a D500 to this. Both 1.3 megapixel cameras, but the images from the samsung are far larger and far better quality. The images I get from my XDA are terrible.
maybe -hope so - it's just the software.
Could the camera be used with another soft? maybe from another WM5 device.
HTC has used extremely cheap and low quality camera sensors :-( Theres not much you can expect from its camera....so i guess its wise to accept the fact and move on :S
There are tons of dead pixels, and fails to reproduce the colors accurately...its just a "i have a cam on my phone too" feature, and nothing of any practical use!
cheerio
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its enough to get the point across say car accident , for insurance or the poice, it would be enough to convince surlly.
Took some pictures yesterday for first time on Universal, on top of a hospital roof, sun shining.
So as normally happens in those situations you can not see what you are taking properly due to the screen contrast etc. in the sun. ( same on all camera phones I have had )
Just used the standard settings, didnt change anything, have just downloaded them onto the PC and I am quite impressed with the quality.
On par if not better than some of the camera phones I have had in the past.
Just checked settings and I was on 640 x 480 capture size and ambience auto.
So for me a thumbs up to the quality from a camera phone.
share one of those beautiful pics...
wanna check if it's just me..
Perhaps a silly question - but have you made sure your camera settings are at 2M (1200x1600) to take your photos. The exec defaults to a much smaller size.
cheers
hehe, yes.. thanks.
I'm just saying that quality doesnt fit in in a 1.3 Mpixels camera, my POV.
The camera is useless imho. sometimes its good to catch stupid pics of people who have parked terribly or funny signs on petrol station doors but all in all they would have been best just leaving it out.
The only solution is to get a decent camera.
JAmes
I'm an amateur photographer (with the lovely Nikon D50), and no doubt the Universal's picture quality is not very good. However, I see it as a bonus add-on for the Universal rather than a proper feature. Say, I don't carry the Nikon D50 into my lessons at school all the time (until recently, when we had our very last lessons at school for the rest of my life!); with the Universal I was able to quickly take pictures of my classmates sleeping in our maths lessons or film our chemistry teacher burning jelly babies (they literally scream and burn when they react with some solution!).
Anyway, my conclusion is that the camera on the Universal is good for quick snaps, but not good for family portraits. :wink:
PS: HTC, come on, you call yourselves "High Tech Computer Corporation" and you can't even manage a tiny camera?
Whilst on the topic, yesterday I tried to take pictures of a beautiful wheat field in the sun, but the picture I got was just a very dark image, no matter where the sun was relative to the lens. Changing the settings to "Sunlight" or "Automatic" did not help either.
Very disappointed, and you don't often get this lovely weather in the UK!
To the OP, there's no easy way to say it: the camera is crap, like 99.99% of all mobile phone cameras. The CCD they use are cheap as dirt, and unless you're experiencing optimum conditions (such as bright, bright sunshine outdoors), there's no way you'll ever take any decent pic with this phone regardless of the software.
Glad I could clear that up! :twisted:
It does not seem that bad to me,
settings = 2M(1600x1280) and daylight
I have not resized the pic , so sorry if it runs off screen :wink:
This is just before my ride to Turkey and back from UK
Stu..
Bagmanstu:
Nice outfit!
mdaexecfan said:
there's no way you'll ever take any decent pic with this phone regardless of the software.
Glad I could clear that up! :twisted:
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Exactly - it's a phone/PDA with a free camera, not a camera with a phone/PDA... Miracles you will not get!
The quality is acceptable to me but getting the best result is sometimes difficult. My major problem the handling, choosing the right settings for the occasion is a bit awkward.
@Bagmanstu: Cool
I'm still under impressions about the HD and all its feat.s, but the most is from 5MPx camera, well done for phone. So please post your the best done picture ever by you HD!!!
Ehhh why not...first one is of the Washington monument here in DC,
The second one is of my almost 3 year old insisting she ride her tricycle uphill to her auntie's house on the left (yes, she knows where the house is...but is still struggling with that pedal/steer combo... give her a break, some of you still get left and right confused!)
Not bad, looks quite nice
DTNT said:
I'm still under impressions about the HD and all its feat.s, but the most is from 5MPx camera, well done for phone. So please post your the best done picture ever by you HD!!!
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Is this your first camera phone?
I mean some of my friends have been really embarrassed with the camera performance of our beloved HD, when trying to impress ladies with the "latest peace of the mobile technology" they haven't been able to accomplish such an easy task as shooting a decent picture, unless on a bright light. Most of the relatively old Nokias or Sony-Ericssons can do this.
I don't wanna even talk about the video recording
Best picture? Come on, we all know that htc have no idea about cameras.
Actually...I'm happy with the [outdoor] performance with this camera. I mean occasionally you'll get a jewel of (an indoor) picture...heck, sometimes with my 10meg camera I'll be disappointed...and yes, some pictures do come out somewhat discolored outside, but I just simply use a photo editing prigram to fix the colors and I'm all set. Remember, you bought:
1. A phone
2. Web browser
3. Digital assistant
4. Mp3 player
5. Camera...
not the other way around.
I have taken 3 pictures that i think is the best i can get out of my HD:
the first one of my mom's dog:
the second one the first flowers:
and the last one a pumpkin from halloween:
I've been this close to going back to a Sony Ericsson because of the camera... Only the video playback (still not as good as it should be) on the large screen keeps me happy
Here's my two cents
The black Sea
Countryside
Beach
River Terek
Although I'm not happy with the HD camera performance I use it occasionally as a back up camera. It's not really practical to carry around a DSLR all the time.
User X said:
Is this your first camera phone?
I mean some of my friends have been really embarrassed with the camera performance of our beloved HD, when trying to impress ladies with the "latest peace of the mobile technology" they haven't been able to accomplish such an easy task as shooting a decent picture, unless on a bright light. Most of the relatively old Nokias or Sony-Ericssons can do this.
I don't wanna even talk about the video recording
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I made a test on My SE Xperia X1 (made by HTC and with HTC hardware camera) and I think that HTC's bad quality pictures is more software related than hardware related...
The rom I use has 2 camera application: the SE Xperia one and the HTC Rhodium one
Here is the picture taken with HTC app:
Here is the picture taken with the SE app:
>My wonder came after the shot done during my work, it was indoor and i shot a bottle, I think very good one picture;
>My mother owns SE K800, but I cannot compare pix, mine is better
>Anyways A+ to HTC for such camera (photo!), after Artemis's camera this one is earth and heaven.
Please continue attach quality pix by HD
pic is attached!
My abstract photo
This was taken through the windscreen of a van while moving.
The camera still's are not too bad on the HD but the video recording is utter junk, the original diamond take's far better video.
Here are my noob shots
...wish the car was mine though
Hello All,
So we all know one way or the other we love our HD2. Let's show how wonderful your pictures and videos are that were taken from it.
Photo1
Photo2
After having a HD, I was suitably impressed with the quality of images from the HD2 camera
xaccers said:
After having a HD, I was suitably impressed with the quality of images from the HD2 camera
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Really? How do you rate the HD2 Quality overall from 1-5?
I love it, just the screen quality, size and contrast make my friends lust over the phone especially when I'm in picture mode.
I love the screen but the actual camera doesnt seem to do it justice, the old photos on my sd card, taken on my N95 on the other hand look fantastic on the HD2 screen
I also love the camera on this
After having BB's for so long I am quite happy to have a decent camera to take those on the fly pics...look at the quality you can actually see the bee in the middle of the pic!
lowriderchick said:
After having BB's for so long I am quite happy to have a decent camera to take those on the fly pics...look at the quality you can actually see the bee in the middle of the pic!
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Wow, awesome pic.
conantroutman have you tried editing registry settings to improve quality? I have and GIGANTIC DIFFERENCE!
CHECK IT OUT HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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Wow, awesome pic.
conantroutman have you tried editing registry settings to improve quality? I have and GIGANTIC DIFFERENCE!
CHECK IT OUT HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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Im literally doing it right now....
Here's the one i took yesterday in my garden.
I took it with my hands without any special equipment
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
I was waiting a long time to tee off, so I snapped a few shots on the 6th tee and stitched a little panorama here.
conantroutman said:
Im literally doing it right now....
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Awesome..so how are the changes??
gjizaqin that flower pic really got me. The detail is just amazing and I love the panaroma picture buzz killington.
Here are mine. I rarely took photos with my HD2. Not so good but jealous with u guys so wanted to post
fantasytozi said:
Here are mine. I rarely took photos with my HD2. Not so good but jealous with u guys so wanted to post
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Haha.. join the conversation. Fantasytozi, you should try the change to the camera that I posted earlier in this thread. It will make your second picture look like your first and last. You take really good photography!
Various customed ROMS; tweaked camera registries
Photos taken at highland areas, approx > 1500m above mean sea level.
Already applied modded camera tweaks.
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Awesome..so how are the changes??
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No change, Im a dumbass, I already had this enabled. I stand by my original statement.
Love have a camera that is useable in your pocket.
These are my thoughts about the camera.
As longs as there is a lot of light they are pretty good, but when you are forced to use the led flash or dont use it in low light I say the pictures arnt any good.
My old camera a sony ericsson k810i had a xenon flash. It could take awsome pictures in the dark.
What are your thoughts on low light fotography with the HD2? I would really like to tweak it so it improves.
/Erik
Are they tips #16 and #56? I just checked and they already there in my current rom, Laurentius26. Maybe I will try to take some photos again
Prešov, Slovakia
My photos
avemn1 said:
Really? How do you rate the HD2 Quality overall from 1-5?
I love it, just the screen quality, size and contrast make my friends lust over the phone especially when I'm in picture mode.
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If I would rate I would say 3-3.5 it is a good cam for just shooting some nice pictures outdoor. Video quality is pretty good in my opinion to. Shooting in the dark if you keep it in your hands without moving you get good pictures (for example in a bar). But it quite difficult to keep it steady espescially when you have drinken some alcohol . But at daylight you can take good macro for example documents.
Overall I would say a good outdoor shooter. But that is not very special for the camera's at the moment.
Hello,
YES!, YES!, I know I'm noob....my first post yeah...OK to the question, when I take pictures using my HD2, and send them to my computer, the pictures don't like as neat and high def as the samples on the phone. I was just wondering if there is way to make it at least a bit more crisp and decent looking than the poor quality and blurness that i get now. The resolution is set to the highest..contrast normal, etc..ANY TIPS...Thank you...
get your hands on BsB Tweaks. Simple .cab install. It has a few options for 'hidden' settings for the camera and camcorder.
I'll do thanks...will that me it sharper??
Honestly I've not done a lot of comparisons, but it does add a SUPERFINE option to the camera, so that has to be worth something!
Finehood, what's the highest resolution setting you see in your camera menu? There should be a 5MP (2592x1552) setting available on there...it's on the second page of resolution options so make sure you didn't miss that.
If you don't see it there, then the BsB option jimbonics mentioned will add that in addition to the "superfine" mode. It also adds a couple of other modes you might like, so it's worth checking out. If you can't or won't use BsB, then they're available as just a regular cab too.
thanks...guys..
thank you guys....and yes I do have it in 5mp, but still the quality looks awful, but I'll be getting the bsb tweak...that sounds like it might fix my problems..any other suggestion is welcome!!!!THANK YOU
finehood said:
thank you guys....and yes I do have it in 5mp, but still the quality looks awful, but I'll be getting the bsb tweak...that sounds like it might fix my problems..any other suggestion is welcome!!!!THANK YOU
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Check out these other tips too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7229727&postcount=2
(the last one on that list is what we've already suggested above)
thanks again...
good tips...I'll keep you guys post it if it gets better!!
Are you having a lot of noise problems ? Unfortunately that's not going to go away. If you're expecting some quality pictures like what a real camera would take you'll be quite disappointed . I've tried tweaking it myself left and right and every which way possible. I've seen some sample pictures from the EVO and even with it's 8MP cam it does not look a whole lot better.
good to know..
actually, u know what..i kind of knew that it would never be close to a regular picture cam, but with the high megapixels at least i was expecting something decent...but thank you...I did the bsb tweaks and got a bit better...the hidden tricks are all right...thanks everyone..
the fact is HD2 cam is poorer than HD's. I have both devices, HD in default (auto) settings takes very well pix, and HD2 (even after tweaks) takes puctures "ugly". The overall temperature of the shot is in grey tones domination, while HD take very realistic, closer to simple digicams. If anybody has an answers, please comment. Would be great if we will be able to take pix even just HD does.
When you take a picture and look at it from your computer is the size of the picture the same as the HD2's screen?
I'll usually just right click on the picture and send it to paint, click on image, then stretch/skew function. I'll reduce it to at least 50% / 50% and work my way down from there. That usually increases the image quality for me. I don't need a picture the size of three of my computer screens. Hope it helps.
When in doubt my friend photoshop is your friend
right...
photoshop will do the fixing for us....jiji...but like i said before i was just wondering if there was a way to make it better...like a tweak or a .cab, etc. bsb is not bad, but it doen't make the image any better in quality...but good tweak really good tweaks..
finehood said:
photoshop will do the fixing for us....jiji...but like i said before i was just wondering if there was a way to make it better...like a tweak or a .cab, etc. bsb is not bad, but it doen't make the image any better in quality...but good tweak really good tweaks..
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What we have here folks is a hardware problem not a software problem. Well actually a little bit of both . All the software tweaks out there does help a bit compared to the stock camera but that's as far as your going to get. Software can only do so much and there isn't a magical software solution when you are coupled with a lousy quality camera lens. The fact is HTC has probably cheapened out the quality of the camera lens compared to earlier phones but regardless the HD2 is a phone first not a camera. Short of replacing the whole lens there's very little software can do when the hardware isn't up to par.
I've had my HD2 since June 30th and believe me this thing takes MUCH BETTER pics than my Blackberry Bold 9700 did at 3.2MP and that phone took some really nice pictures.
I think it depends on the environment your in at the time. I took a few close up pics of my Wife and kids and those images came out beautiful. I also took some scenery shots in landscape and those images came out awsome as well. I took some pics inside the Tennessee Aquarium and had mixed results. As long as the lighting was good the images came out great. In darker settings the images were not as sharp.
I do use BsB Tweeks and I also have my resolution set to 5MP. I'm not sure why your camera is producing such awful images but I'm very pleased with mine.
squire366 said:
I do use BsB Tweeks and I also have my resolution set to 5MP. I'm not sure why your camera is producing such awful images but I'm very pleased with mine.
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Is it awful? He never posted any samples of his pictures. Are you really pleased because I'm not. How good the pictures actually look to an individual are highly subjective. I would hardly consider the pictures I've taken pleasing but I'm just going to have to settle.
I think the problem here is that finehood is really picky and had high expectations. I'm assuming what he had in mind were quality pictures closer to that of a real camera.
Sounds like user error to me. Try wiping your lens before taking pics. . My HD2 takes great pics.
Pop...
Take a picture at max resolution. Then copy that picture over to your pc. View that picture at 100%. You'll see it looks like ass.
hey guys...
i was reading some of the posts, and it makes sense, believe me I never got the wild idea of a phone cam being equal or better quality than a normal cam... but even with the 5 mp and the tweaks and considering light issues or environment surrounding your pics is not even close to a decent quality that's all I'm saying, the pictures look BEAUTIFUL on your phone, really neat and crisp, once you transfer your pics to a computer and see it in full scale you'll know what I'm talking about...blurriness, blur edges, sometimes pixelete images mainly in the face, I'm happy with the phone....and all it does, but I WAS JUST WONDERING if there was a way to make it a bit better...BSB Tweaks did some adjustments...thanks for the feedback guys, I'll be posting some pics shortly..so you guys get the idea....
i dont usually use my camera phone, but tried to use it yesterday and was extremely dissapointed in the zoom facility. didnt make much difference at all. my old omnia seemed to zoom in much further. am i stuck with this or has somone looked at a fix for this?
did a search but got loads of android stuff come up, which is useless to me.
Mike
Chastiser said:
i dont usually use my camera phone, but tried to use it yesterday and was extremely dissapointed in the zoom facility. didnt make much difference at all. my old omnia seemed to zoom in much further. am i stuck with this or has somone looked at a fix for this?
did a search but got loads of android stuff come up, which is useless to me.
Mike
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Digital zoom is always poor, it just takes a snapshot of part of the picture and increases it's size - lowering the quality of the resultant image.
For zoomed pictures I prefer to use Canon EOD 5d Mark II with 300mm lens
HTC HD2 is a really great phone. Let me repeat - phone.
The camera it has can be good for taking pictures of business cards or for some augumented reality things, but not for anything more advanced.
tomksoft said:
For zoomed pictures I prefer to use Canon EOD 5d Mark II with 300mm lens
HTC HD2 is a really great phone. Let me repeat - phone.
The camera it has can be good for taking pictures of business cards or for some augumented reality things, but not for anything more advanced.
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yes, i understand it is a phone! however, the camera on my ole omnia zoomed in far more than the camera i have on the HD2 and wondered if there was some sort of tweak so that the zoom could be improved. do i need to repeat that? blimy ask a question and get sarcasm.
Mike
Poor Camera zoom.
Mike,
I totally agree. The camera zoom only enables x1.6 on the zoom which in my opinion is pointless. Given as stated earlier its a phone and not a camera, i cant think of any phones out there with worse zoom capabilities!
If there any tweak headz out there that could maybe edit the phone for at least x3 zoom capability on the camera that would be blinding!
Someone Do it'...........Please!