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Can I buy a Sprint Touch, unlock it, and use it on AT&T service? Sprint has no service where I live, so I'm stuck with AT&T for the meantime thanx in advance for any help
no...sprint uses CDMA technology and ATT uses GSM... you can purchase a GSM version of the Touch (called the HTC Touch) which "technically" doesn't have the 850 mhz band (which offers better signal reception); however, there are may HTC Touch users that say the phone works very well with ATT. the implication is that the phone has 850 mhz band but it's not advertised.
cortezzi said:
no...sprint uses CDMA technology and ATT uses GSM... you can purchase a GSM version of the Touch (called the HTC Touch) which "technically" doesn't have the 850 mhz band (which offers better signal reception); however, there are may HTC Touch users that say the phone works very well with ATT. the implication is that the phone has 850 mhz band but it's not advertised.
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I appreciate the response! Well crap! I need the 850mhz, cause that's what's available where I live. I'll have to find another way. Thanks again
Well, if money is no object, you can try the Touch Cruise:
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch_cruise.htm
It's a bit different, but apparently the newest model, and it has 850 and HSDPA
i'm using the Orbit 2 which is different version of the Touch Cruise. you might want to read some of the HTC Touch threads on HowardForums.com for feedback on the HTC Touch being used on ATT. there are lots of people over there that are using the phone on ATT.
why not get the tilt?
I was wondering why not just sign a new contract and get the tilt. It's quad band and I have seen some sell on craigslists for as little as 300 for a used one with no contract. You could probably get one cheaper with a contract. plus you get a tilting screen, a slide out keyboard and built in gps receiver. Just a thought. Tilt aka HTC Kaiser. You can find the info on this website in the Kaiser section. It is heavier though.
Is Topaz is available for sale for US UMTS bands? In all the online shops i see this phone only with UMTS 900 and 2100. I am planning to buy one but i dont see one with UMTS 850 and 1900.
I'm still waiting for 850mhz. It clearly isn't out yet.
3G for AT&T US?
Does anyone have any info on whether and if yes, when, the Topaz will be offered with the US 3G bands??
I'm Not sure which bands AT&T uses seeing I'm with T-mobile but here are the bands the phone has.
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
3G on T-mobile does not work but I don't mind because Edge is fast enough for me. I had faster loading times on Webpages yesterday than my freind with a touch pro on Sprint's 3G. So ya. I don't know anyone with AT&T or else I'd throw the SIM in and try it.
HTC Touch Freak said:
I'm Not sure which bands AT&T uses seeing I'm with T-mobile but here are the bands the phone has.
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
3G on T-mobile does not work but I don't mind because Edge is fast enough for me. I had faster loading times on Webpages yesterday than my freind with a touch pro on Sprint's 3G. So ya. I don't know anyone with AT&T or else I'd throw the SIM in and try it.
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If that is correct -----the UMTS 1900+850 part----- then those are the AT&T 3G frequencies. Where did you see those bands?
mush10 said:
If that is correct -----the UMTS 1900+850 part----- then those are the AT&T 3G frequencies. Where did you see those bands?
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If you go to Settings/All Settings/Personal/Phone/Click on the Band Tab it is under the Selet your GSM/UMTS band.
If I go to the mall today I will stop by the AT&T store and see if someone there is willing to insert their SIM in it to see if it gets 3G. If so I will post up.
HTC Touch Freak said:
If you go to Settings/All Settings/Personal/Phone/Click on the Band Tab it is under the Selet your GSM/UMTS band.
If I go to the mall today I will stop by the AT&T store and see if someone there is willing to insert their SIM in it to see if it gets 3G. If so I will post up.
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That is great!! If you can check and let us know that would be a great help!!
Is UMTS band availability is all software/firmware related.. i thought thats hardware.
having those band settings does not mean it will work on US 3G networks. for example, the UK Touch HD (from the UK) has the same band listings as above but the radio doesn't support at&t's 3G bands (850/1900). it will work for voice and EDGE internet speeds without issue. it's a hardare limitation. 3 months after releasing the UK HD, HTC released a Telstra (Australia) version of the Touch HD that had the same band listings (as above) that works with 850 3G bands. Since Telstra uses the same 850 3G band that at&t uses, the Telstra HD can access at&t's 3G network. i'm speaking from fact because i have both the UK and Telstra HD versions.
HTC is known for relasing the same device with radio limitations: they did it with the Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch HD and they're doing it for the Diamond 2. if you want US 3G access - via at&t - on the Diamond 2 you'll have to wait until HTC releases the US 3G version.
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having those band settings does not mean it will work on US 3G networks. for example, the UK Touch HD (from the UK) has the same band listings as above but the radio doesn't support at&t's 3G bands (850/1900). it will work for voice and EDGE internet speeds without issue. it's a hardare limitation. 3 months after releasing the UK HD, HTC released a Telstra (Australia) version of the Touch HD that had the same band listings (as above) that works with 850 3G bands. Since Telstra uses the same 850 3G band that at&t uses, the Telstra HD can access at&t's 3G network. i'm speaking from fact because i have both the UK and Telstra HD versions.
HTC is known for relasing the same device with radio limitations: they did it with the Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch HD and they're doing it for the Diamond 2. if you want US 3G access - via at&t - on the Diamond 2 you'll have to wait until HTC releases the US 3G version.
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This clarifies. Thanks friend. Do you aware of any news on when HTC might release the D2 for US?
verified today.... does not work on at&t. the guys at the store said that it is 1900/900 band not 850. 850od the 2g frequency. havnt checked on how correct they are on this but a quick google search will verify the frequencies.
A reply from HTC
See the reply from them below. HTC did not mention about any carrier like ATT or T-Mobile asked for this phone.. looks like this phone will never make it to US? That is a Bad news......
From: Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:54 AM
To: Natarajan, Sundaram
Subject: Re: HTC Diamond 2 <<#15569-73859#>>
Hello Sundaram,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch Diamond 2.
We appreciate your inquiry about one of our new phones. Unfortunately, we do not remake our phones to work on a specific network, such as the AT&T 1900 band width, unless that carrier request us to make them that exact phone. If you do buy the Touch Diamond 2, we cannot guarantee 3G service since AT&T 3G band is 1900 while the Touch Diamond 2's 3G band is 2100.
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
Thanks for contacting HTC,
HTC Technical Support
http://www.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
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From: "Natarajan, Sundaram"
Received: 5/5/09 11:17:17 PM EDT
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: HTC Diamond2
Dear Sir/Madam,
I own a HTC TyTn II and HTC Fuze (ATT) and now planning to upgrade my smart phone to HTC Diamond 2. I am really impressed with this phone and ready to purchase one. I live in USA and have a question about the 3G band availability of HTC Diamond 2. The phone is available in many online stores but they all have a specification like below.
Operating Frequency:
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Does this mean that I cannot use this phone for ATT 3G networks in USA? Does HTC manufacture HTC Diamond 2 for US 3G band which I believe are 850/1900 MHz?
Is there any planned date of releasing HTC Diamond2 for ATT 3G networks? I appreciate your response.
Thanks
The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
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The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
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What makes you to visit this topic and through a comment like this? I was not asking "you" this.
Besides, I am not working at ATT or HTC but trying to see if any other member of this forum has any news about this. If you dont like this topic just dont visit it and try to change your attitude. Otherwise you will become a great looser (i guess you already are).
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The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
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Clearly that is a pretty general statement that I believe most of us find to be true. That being said, do you have any more insight?
If it's coming to the US with 3G I would just assume that it would hit Sprint first so still no luck for AT&T. Didn't ATT just get the FUZE in like Dec? Anyways the phone most likely to hit US carriers is The Pro2. Americans generaly (IMO) like a full Hard qwerty keyboard.
This was floating around a few months ago
http://www.wmexperts.com/htcs-entire-2009-lineup-leaked
Shows the topaz going to AT&T. I'm not sure how valid it is though, but it's something to cling to
Even if it does come to AT&T, I hope we see the unlocked version well before. HTC used to be the one company we could count on to deliver US 3G on newer releases. Now we seem to be stuck playing the waiting game. The odd thing is they released the TYTN and such when the 3G network was barely rolled out, now that it at least covers all major cities, we cannot get any love.
I have been waiting a long time for this
Word is "HTC Topaz 210" (AT&T warhawk) will be released next month /(october) with the 850mHz UMTS "7201" chip (instead of the "7200" 900/2100 UMTS chip)
It will also be slightly smaller (1 mm less longer and wider)
I may drop around here if HTC beats the drum with this one
PS: sorry for resurrecting an ole thread, but we american users really miss good HTC 850mHz phones
I too am waiting for the US version of D2. gtrab, where did yo uget the info that US D2 will be slightly smaller. The latest info was from BG but I don't remember him mentioning any other spec except the obvious 850/1900 implementation.
Hello, I bought my unlock code on ebay for my AT&T Pure, great deal for under $4.00. I am using it with T-mobile U.S.A. but I don't seem to get 3G. Is that normal? (or is it like the G1 issue that doesn't get 3G on AT&T?)
Besides that, Is the T-mobile's HTC TouchPro2 rom compatible with the Pure? If so, how can I CID unlock my pure in order to accept the rom?
Thanks
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Hello, I bought my unlock code on ebay for my AT&T Pure, great deal for under $4.00. I am using it with T-mobile U.S.A. but I don't seem to get 3G. Is that normal? (or is it like the G1 issue that doesn't get 3G on AT&T?)
Besides that, Is the T-mobile's HTC TouchPro2 rom compatible with the Pure? If so, how can I CID unlock my pure in order to accept the rom?
Thanks
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You may want to try some different radios for your 3G issue.
As far as your ROM, a TP2 ROM would not work on a TD2, If you want to flash a TD2 ROM, I suggest reading the flashing guide on the Wiki for instructions on Hard SPL.
I see, but a touchpro2 rom won't work because I have to hard spl first? or because it is just no compatible? and also, where can I get a working radio for my 3g?
You will never get T-Mobile 3G on a Pure. It lacks the radio spectrum. AT&T and TMobile use different 3G frequency bands.
You cannot use a rom built from another device. A Rhodium rom won't flash on your Topaz rom.
You have an AT&T Specific device built for use on AT&T's network. You can flash other compatible RADIOS if you unlock it (which won't magically give you Tmobile 3G), but you'll brick your phone if you flash the wrong rom on it.
Maybe you can sell the Pure on ebay or craiglist and buy a Tmobile Rhodium.
"You can flash other compatible RADIOS if you unlock it (which won't magically give you Tmobile 3G), but you'll brick your phone if you flash the wrong rom on it."
so when you say that... is there a possibility that I can flash a compatible radio that wont brick my phone and get 3G?
No radio flash will solve your problem. TMO 3G compatibility is a hardware issue, not software problem you can solve.
There are plenty of TD2 ROMs here, so you should have enough selection. Make sure you do HSPL first before try any ROM.
T mobile uses 3g 1700
t mobile uses 3g 1700 frequency and at&t uses 3g 850 or 3g 1900
htc pure only supports 3g 850 and 3g 1900
I am trying to understand what the difference is between the frequencies that are used for 3G data for AT&T vs carriers like TMobile and Cincinnati Bell Wireless (CBW) and the specs I see on GSMArena such as "3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100".
Phone from Cincinnati Bell and TMobile are compatible on both networks as far as 3G data is concerned but neither apparently work with AT&T (and visa-versa).
If AT&T uses 850 or 1900 then that fits with the specs I reference above. If T Mobile uses 1700/2100 and requires both bands to work then I get why the above specs don't work as 1700 is missing. I think Cincinnati Bell is also 1700/2100 and assuming it required both I would understand.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S (aka vibrant) from CBW that is listed on GSMArena as "3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100" and for which operates on CBWs network as 3G. CBWs website advertises the phone as running 900/2100 which fits the specs as well.
I tried using an AT&T phone with specs "3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100" which I see as a "super set" of the Samsungs but can not get 3G. Is it possible that AT&T does something to lock out the 900 and 2100 since it does not use them and that somehow they can be turned on so the phone will work with another network?
Hey, kind of an odd question for these forums, but I am running out of options! I have been searching high and low for a North American version of this phone that operates with the 850/1900 UMTS/HSDPA. Everywhere I find it, it is for Europe/Asia: 900/2100.
Anyone know where I can get the 850 version reasonably priced? The ONLY place I have found it is expansys, and they are very overpriced. Thanks for any help!
HTC Tilt 2 - AT&T
I bought HTC Tilt 2 - AT&T and it has this frecuency.
Regards.
Hi all,
Mostly a lurker here over the years, love the site and forums - great community! I'm running latest JG4 Optus on my SGS with the new "2200 score" lagfix - awesome!
Anyone else getting really slow data on Telstra? I have tried telstra.wap telstra.corp telstra.internet telstra.iph all of these AP's give extremely slow data, and the phone symbol at the top flicks between 'H' (assume HSDPA) and 3G at times. I'm talking 0.4mpbs.
My friend is on Optus and his *cough* iPhone is getting 4.45mbps, in comparison my speed is nowhere near this speed. I am in metro Melbourne.
Anyone else have slow Telstra experience or know a trick or setting to help out - would be much appreciated!
Thanks all.
i could be wrong, but i dont think the galaxy s supports telstra network very well, if at all. dunno, not real tecchy, but its what ive heard round the traps. something to do with the bands the phone supports (900/2100 or 2200ish) and telstra is 850 something or other. smarter people than me will be able to clarify.
Correct, Telstra uses 850mhz and 2100 (apparently). But, only some variants support 850, and Telstra are releasing their own for that frequency. So I'd imagine that 2100 simply has lower coverage (Optus on the otherhand uses the more standard 900mhz frequency).
If you already own the phone, you may wish to consider moving to an optus based network (such as Exetel for Virgin). However, it is also entirely possible/probable that the galaxy S ships with a chip that supports 850mhz, and it simply needs to be enabled (I have seen threads which showed a way to apparently enable it).
Or, it may be just reception probs
Hi, thanks for the input...
According to http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification the phone does support 850 and 2100. Strange
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Hi, thanks for the input...
According to http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification the phone does support 850 and 2100. Strange
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It possibly does, but which country did you purchase it in? Remember, some countries might have had it disabled (because they don't use 850, or have other services on those frequencies).
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It possibly does, but which country did you purchase it in? Remember, some countries might have had it disabled (because they don't use 850, or have other services on those frequencies).
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Hi Andrew Purchased in Australia from Allphones "unlocked". Tried the 850 band turn on and various other fiddles in that debug/phone settings area relating to 3G and HSDPA - unfortunately the max I've seen on Telstra is 0.40Mbps, my friend gets 4.45Mbps on iPhone/Optus
Coverage in my area is usually great, I'm in Melb metro area and normally full bars.
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Hi Andrew Purchased in Australia from Allphones "unlocked". Tried the 850 band turn on and various other fiddles in that debug/phone settings area relating to 3G and HSDPA - unfortunately the max I've seen on Telstra is 0.40Mbps, my friend gets 4.45Mbps on iPhone/Optus
Coverage in my area is usually great, I'm in Melb metro area and normally full bars.
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mate it might be worth a look over at whirlpool forums, they seem to have a fair bit of stuff about telstra and the galaxy s over there, so you should hopefully find some help
Hi, thanks for all the information, heres the low down:
Telstra has WCDMA 2100 and 850 bands, but the Galaxy S badged versions of this phone only support quad band in GSM, it is triband on WCDMA and unfortunately 850 isn't supported Telstra will be selling a different version of this phone shortly ("Captivate" badge!?!?!?) which WILL support their 3.5G 850 network at full speed.
Bummer!