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Hi I know a couple people here stated they have WinMo Pro 6 running on the "SnapVue" portion of the Shift. Excuse me if I explained that wrong. My question is what resolution does it run in? 640x480, 800x480, 320x240? And Can it access the phone portion(assuming from comments that it will in fact have voice)?
I'm really getting excited about the Shift since people are saying that in fact can run full blown Windows Mobile Pro. Why HTC didn't include/market that from the beginning is beyond me. It would TOTALLY seperate the Shift from any other UMPC on the market. Instead they aren't marketing it and it sits in a pile of other boring UMPC's. HTC's marketing practices as of late are really questionable. If it does have voice I'm crossing my fingers there is an earpiece built in. I doubt it but I'm hoping. Yes I know I'll look like an uber nerd using it that way but I can't stand BT headsets and barely talk on my devices that much anyway. Thanks.
Hello juiceppc,
I'm not sure at 100% about what I will say.. but I think that the resoluion in SnapVue is 640*480 (there are 2 black areas at each side of SnapVue).
For the phone portion ... humm .. it's difficult to know, but we will try the best to have it ! It's sure that we will be able to read SMS... but nothing is sure about receiving and giving calls.. we have to wait for the final version of the Shift to test.
Just stay tune in this forum... and you will have your answer... As Soon As Possible !
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Hello juiceppc,
I'm not sure at 100% about what I will say.. but I think that the resoluion in SnapVue is 640*480 (there are 2 black areas at each side of SnapVue).
For the phone portion ... humm .. it's difficult to know, but we will try the best to have it ! It's sure that we will be able to read SMS... but nothing is sure about receiving and giving calls.. we have to wait for the final version of the Shift to test.
Just stay tune in this forum... and you will have your answer... As Soon As Possible !
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Thanks!...
hi
i realy like the Shift, but if can run wm6 full ... I'm excited!
there is a problem: the 2 operating system must use the some devices in the same time (bt, wifi, etc).
for browse on the net, or for chat, the wm6 is enough, and is not necessary to run vista.
and if htc release the win xp drivers, the battery life can be bigger.
but i cant find anywhere a documented review about shift....(everybody is happpy, the shift is the best...) no phone, no gps, the image cant rotate, no wm6, no xp drivers...
i think the comunity can resolve this problem but the feedback is verry low.
the device is not released .. so stop to anticipate everything ... we will try to make the Shift the best device EVER... but we need to get one to test everything on it !
I don't care about XP (it's a completely horrible O.S. .. and Vista is 10000 times better) but for the rest, we ALL want GPS, PHONE and full WM6 .. even without that, the SHIFT is an innovative device.. and is much better than every other device... so WAIT and you'll see.
why buy a HTC Shift?
I have a Dopod U1000, its the best device ever. I have a Sony TZ notebook as well. I was thinking why bother to buy the HTC Shift?
- Battery life 2 hours Vs Sony 11 hours
- it runs on a paralysed WM6 that is probably not going to be that useful Vs Dopod U1000
- the screen resolution is poor Vs Sony beautiful crystal clear screen
- HTC Shift probably runs on hard disk Vs Sony runs on flash memory,
- This is the first PC by HTC Vs Sony many years of R&D experience
I have purchased the Samsung Q1 as well as the small Sony UMPC before. Both proof to be quite useless. When I bring them out. I have to wait a few minutes for it to boot up. After using for just awhile the battery goes flat. You will be left wondering why do u ever bother to bring such a heavy device around. Trust me folks battery life is important. If you buy the HTC Shift after a month the battery life drops to probably 1 hour. In addition, the screen size is way too small to run Windows. I am very sure there will be many second hand models in ebay after 2 weeks of launching
Pls think twice..
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I have a Dopod U1000, its the best device ever. I have a Sony TZ notebook as well. I was thinking why bother to buy the HTC Shift?
- Battery life 2 hours Vs Sony 11 hours
- it runs on a paralysed WM6 that is probably not going to be that useful Vs Dopod U1000
- the screen resolution is poor Vs Sony beautiful crystal clear screen
- HTC Shift probably runs on hard disk Vs Sony runs on flash memory,
- This is the first PC by HTC Vs Sony many years of R&D experience
I have purchased the Samsung Q1 as well as the small Sony UMPC before. Both proof to be quite useless. When I bring them out. I have to wait a few minutes for it to boot up. After using for just awhile the battery goes flat. You will be left wondering why do u ever bother to bring such a heavy device around. Trust me folks battery life is important. If you buy the HTC Shift after a month the battery life drops to probably 1 hour. In addition, the screen size is way too small to run Windows. I am very sure there will be many second hand models in ebay after 2 weeks of launching
Pls think twice..
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Screen Size way too small for Vista? How about OQO and other 5 inch UMPC? It's even smaller..
greatestkelvin said:
I have a Dopod U1000, its the best device ever. I have a Sony TZ notebook as well. I was thinking why bother to buy the HTC Shift?
- Battery life 2 hours Vs Sony 11 hours
- it runs on a paralysed WM6 that is probably not going to be that useful Vs Dopod U1000
- the screen resolution is poor Vs Sony beautiful crystal clear screen
- HTC Shift probably runs on hard disk Vs Sony runs on flash memory,
- This is the first PC by HTC Vs Sony many years of R&D experience
I have purchased the Samsung Q1 as well as the small Sony UMPC before. Both proof to be quite useless. When I bring them out. I have to wait a few minutes for it to boot up. After using for just awhile the battery goes flat. You will be left wondering why do u ever bother to bring such a heavy device around. Trust me folks battery life is important. If you buy the HTC Shift after a month the battery life drops to probably 1 hour. In addition, the screen size is way too small to run Windows. I am very sure there will be many second hand models in ebay after 2 weeks of launching
Pls think twice..
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I totally disagree with your comment :
- Battery life 2 hours Vs Sony 11 hours
First .. I bet that the shift can be used about 5 days without using Windows Vista (only SnapVue or WM6). And the Sony is twice the price of the Shift ... ergh!!!!
- it runs on a paralysed WM6 that is probably not going to be that useful Vs Dopod U1000
You seem to be paralysed when talking about it ... the WM6 will be sufficiently well working (even without removing SnapVue) because of ability to install Cab .. and I believe that Full WM6 will be easy to have. The Dopod doesn't have Windows Vista ... and having WM5 or even WM6 on the Dopod is exactly the same of having SnapVue on the Shift.
- the screen resolution is poor Vs Sony beautiful crystal clear screen
I can put the Shift in my pocket ...but not the Sony. 7" is the perfect resolution for me (I have tried 2 Shifts and I really like the screen size and the Shift keyboard). At home I plug a VGA cable .. and here we go !
- HTC Shift probably runs on hard disk Vs Sony runs on flash memory,
The sony runs on flash memory? MMh maybe... but it's twice the price of the shift... and unable to put it in the pocket... bad !
- This is the first PC by HTC Vs Sony many years of R&D experience
I have tried 2 Shifts.. and it was working perfectly, as fast as I want ..... so I don't care about the years of R&D experience of Sony.
Here's my thoughts... I'm not trying to put you down, or to say that you are wrong .. but features depends on the way you want to use it , and you use devices. We are talking about 3 completely different devices.... and I don't believe that any other "released" device can change my opinion that the Shift is the only good device on the market right now (because of 2 CPU and 2 OS).
How about we keep our heads about us people and stay objective.
Comparing a Sony TZ to the shift is a useless comparison. One is a notebook, the other an umpc. Each serves a different purpose for different people and different tasks.
Koala, if you can put the shift in your pocket than I would hate to see your sense of fashion. Im sorry I dont doubt you could shove the shift into your pocket but show some decorum....theres better umpcs to shove down there that would look less ridiculous.
Remember people, different tasks, different people = different devices. For me ill probably have to seriously look at the Shift if WM can be made practical, if the GPS can be enabled (remember the P3600 ppl).
Having owned an X7500 I found it to be a great device, very handy however there are some tasks WinMo just can do as well as full Windows. The excellent, connectivity, battery life, and quick responsiveness of WinMo will be ideal for me with the option to flick it to Vista at a whim for those times when im away from my desk and need to do work on the move. If it has GPS and phone functions can be enabled than thats just a bonus
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How about we keep our heads about us people and stay objective.
Comparing a Sony TZ to the shift is a useless comparison. One is a notebook, the other an umpc. Each serves a different purpose for different people and different tasks.
Koala, if you can put the shift in your pocket than I would hate to see your sense of fashion. Im sorry I dont doubt you could shove the shift into your pocket but show some decorum....theres better umpcs to shove down there that would look less ridiculous.
Remember people, different tasks, different people = different devices. For me ill probably have to seriously look at the Shift if WM can be made practical, if the GPS can be enabled (remember the P3600 ppl).
Having owned an X7500 I found it to be a great device, very handy however there are some tasks WinMo just can do as well as full Windows. The excellent, connectivity, battery life, and quick responsiveness of WinMo will be ideal for me with the option to flick it to Vista at a whim for those times when im away from my desk and need to do work on the move. If it has GPS and phone functions can be enabled than thats just a bonus
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same for me ... it's not ridiculous to put it in my pocket because it looks like if my pocket was empty ... nobody can see that I have something in my pocket... and when I have a bag with me, it will be in my bag .. but I can visit friends without having a bag and without having to look like "coming to work".
htc shift
I just bought the htc shift a few days ago. There are several problems.
1. I unlocked the full WM6, the problem is that file explorer cannot read the sd card. As such I have to install all the applications on the internal memory. This is not very good as it prompts me that the internal memory is very low.
2. Another problem is the contrast in snapvue. After reseting snapvue, the standard high contrast comes out again. U cannnot lower he backlight.
3. the sync between wm6 and the pc works sometimes. I use USB tool. Most often it does not work and is very slow.
Overall the built quality is good but it still cannot replace my dopod u1000
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I just bought the htc shift a few days ago. There are several problems.
1. I unlocked the full WM6, the problem is that file explorer cannot read the sd card. As such I have to install all the applications on the internal memory. This is not very good as it prompts me that the internal memory is very low.
2. Another problem is the contrast in snapvue. After reseting snapvue, the standard high contrast comes out again. U cannnot lower he backlight.
3. the sync between wm6 and the pc works sometimes. I use USB tool. Most often it does not work and is very slow.
Overall the built quality is good but it still cannot replace my dopod u1000
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1. still not available, but is coming soon
3. do you have SP1 on VIsta? This is causing troubles.
Where would one start to try and get the "motherboard and system" technical design documentation ?
Surely, if there's no physical connection between WinMo architecture, and the SD card . bluetooth module / wifi radio , we are screwed
I want to check out Mobo design and especially the way this dual-architecture is built.
FCC did not help.
Do a search on this forum. There are pictures available of the Shift printed circuit boards. They might help you with your investigation. Good luck!
Excuses
First time I don't use the search button I get caught redhanded
Wouldn't even have imagined that it's already here. WIll search right now.
I must say that after three days with my device, I now know why I screamed "I want one" when I first saw it.
It's the WinMo part in the UMPC that makes this device a killer. No need for vista at times, but still online and kickin'.
lucid said:
First time I don't use the search button I get caught redhanded
Wouldn't even have imagined that it's already here. WIll search right now.
I must say that after three days with my device, I now know why I screamed "I want one" when I first saw it.
It's the WinMo part in the UMPC that makes this device a killer. No need for vista at times, but still online and kickin'.
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Yes, I think the same. UMPC side is a good one but there are better devices with better CPU, screen, battery....But WM side makes me reduce the time using Vista at 50% and still Real time mail. And Opera mini 4.0 makes unnecessary use a Vista Internet Explorer in most cases....
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Yes, I think the same. UMPC side is a good one but there are better devices with better CPU, screen, battery....But WM side makes me reduce the time using Vista at 50% and still Real time mail. And Opera mini 4.0 makes unnecessary use a Vista Internet Explorer in most cases....
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yep and when u need vista its always under reach. seems like a real nice laptop replacment. the wm side should becoming even more interesting soon.
Pawel062 said:
yep and when u need vista its always under reach. seems like a real nice laptop replacment. the wm side should becoming even more interesting soon.
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with the VGA port.. I think that it is also a good desktop replacement .. (maybe not the primary desktop.. that "should" be better in performances)
you can put it on a LCD, you can put bluetooth keyboard and mouse, etc....
I think that the shift will be sufficient for me 24h/24... no matter where am I.. and the fastest computer (released yet) will never be enough fast to make me change my mind about it .. because you fell so "FREE" to have a so small device that can do everything you want !
It needs GPS and PHONE and it will replace my Touch .. really really really nice device ! I think when we will have finished with it .. it will be THE PERFECT DEVICE (except for the slow CPU)
koala996 said:
with the VGA port.. I think that it is also a good desktop replacement .. (maybe not the primary desktop.. that "should" be better in performances)
you can put it on a LCD, you can put bluetooth keyboard and mouse, etc....
I think that the shift will be sufficient for me 24h/24... no matter where am I.. and the fastest computer (released yet) will never be enough fast to make me change my mind about it .. because you fell so "FREE" to have a so small device that can do everything you want !
It needs GPS and PHONE and it will replace my Touch .. really really really nice device ! I think when we will have finished with it .. it will be THE PERFECT DEVICE (except for the slow CPU)
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yep thats the point. htc might of not made it perfect on the day of release but that would be no fun for me and the developers. they come in here and know what we do so they made sure to give us some work to do when it came out.
Hello ,
i want to know if the xperia have a tv output like the omnia.
if anybody have a x1 can you tell me if there is or not.
thanks
No, it hasn't a TV out.
Though I don't have one, SE already confirmed this.
SlingCatcher You Want
sudf said:
Hello ,
i want to know if the xperia have a tv output like the omnia.
if anybody have a x1 can you tell me if there is or not.
thanks
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SlingCatcher will give the Xperia X1 and just all mobile 6.1 device with video capture TV OUT capabilities. By having USB mass storage and a formatted FAT32 micro SD Card on Your Xperia X1 you should be good to go. The SlingCatcher has it's own USB port, it will send the capture video on your Xperia X1 to your living room giant screen HD TV.........!
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SlingCatcher will give the Xperia X1 and just all mobile 6.1 device with video capture TV OUT capabilities. By having USB mass storage and a formatted FAT32 micro SD Card on Your Xperia X1 you should be good to go. The SlingCatcher has it's own USB port, it will send the capture video on your Xperia X1 to your living room giant screen HD TV.........!
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That will, with other words also work on the Touch HD?
Nyberg said:
That will, with other words also work on the Touch HD?
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Touch HD has a tv-out.
Not according to HTC:s website..
With the SlingCatcher, YES!
Nyberg said:
That will, with other words also work on the Touch HD?
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Yes, it will work with the SlinCatcher providing all compontents parts are first installed on your Xperia X1, but you really don't have to worry about TV OUT on the Touch HD, because it comes with TV OUT.
Hi, sorry that I want to refresh this thread, but I still wonder how I could manage to view my movies on a tv, using my xperia although I pretty know that it hasn't a specific tv-out.. I looked now in the internet about the slingcatcher, but this would be nothing for me. First of all, its much to big, I wanna this to be "portable", to watch my movies in hotels, so I won't carry such a big box with me everywhere.. And second, its much to expensive, but I rather say in this point, this isn't important yet. What I imagine is just a program to use the usb-port as a tv-out, just that every information for the screen is showed on the tv. Would something like that be possible? Are there already such programs? I would pay 30 to 50$ for that, but 300$ for a big box to carry everywhere is just to much for me.. And I want just to carry a cable with me, that would be awesome^^ so, have you any ideas? Thanks a lot^^ greez, cad
as far as i know not 100% then xperia dont have usbHost (at least only 2 HTC made devices have that suppport)
and without usbHost a device cant use other usb devices at all
another option would be a bluetooth tvout thingy recall something about there being such devices sounds expensive though
never say no to the tv-out feature!
take a closer look to the x1`s usb connector and you will see, that the
backside is plated, too!
that could be 4 every thing! the hardware looks like htc raphael, excluding wvga screen.
but prozessor and so on is exactly the same. okay, a little bit more of ram. but that`s it.
no stereo speakers, no other cam, no hardware video encoder.
and don`t forget, a hardware fbas connector, for example, isn`t really required, there are some other possibillities to get video out over usb/network/wifi/BT2.0!
don`t forget vnc style tools. and vnc styled hardware dongles (usb/wifi for ex.) in future. nobody knows.
I just looked at the HTC website, discovered the new widescreen touch phones, and was taken aback, that the Athena is no longer listed with the HTC products.
So is this the end of the Athena?
R, Michael
Links? When I go to htc.com I don't see the Athena under current "Products", but that's been true for a while. I do see it listed under "Support". I also don't see any new widescreen phones anywhere...
techntrek said:
Links? When I go to htc.com I don't see the Athena under current "Products", but that's been true for a while. I do see it listed under "Support". I also don't see any new widescreen phones anywhere...
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I am not a regular with the HTC website, so forgive me, if didn't find out earlier, that HTC dropped the Athena line altogether. And I haven't seen it mentioned on this forum as well.
"New" widescreen phones means (for the same reason) "new to ME", but probably "water under the bridge" for the better informed.
No, you misread, I wasn't jumping on you. I'm curious what widescreen phones you are talking about and wanted a link to see. The thread that appeared here about the Athena getting dropped from HTC's product line didn't get much activity so it dropped off the front page quickly, so you could have easily missed it.
i looked on the htc Europe page and there they still have the athena
The HTC web site (worldwide) lists two widescreen devices:
Touch HD
MAX 4G
but no X7500/X7501/X7510.
European and german web sites list the Touch HD as the only widescreen device, but still list the X7510.
North-american site lists no widescreen device at all and no more Advantages.
R, Michael
The thing that surprises me is that this niche seems to be emptying. There are the smaller devices with touch interface (iPhone and knock-offs) that are booming, and then the netbooks are booming. But nothing in between. I'm not sure what my next move will be. I've had my x7500 for over 18 months, which is an eternity. But I can't convince myself that there is anything new that I would be happier with. What I really want is a faster, sleeker, lighter x7500 with a 60GB solid state drive. Wouldn't other people want that??
I've had mine 15 months and plan on using it for several more years. Definitely nothing on the market right now that is an obvious replacement for the Athena and I don't think there will be for a while.
I'd love an Athena with a SSD, and a 16:9 aspect ratio screen instead of the 4:3 we have now. It would make it a bit longer but a bit narrower (top to bottom), more like a traditional "candybar" phone. Would give more total screen space but would make it easier to hold like a phone. Obviously that would also require adding a private earpiece. Throw in a vibrate ringer and I'd be there.
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The thing that surprises me is that this niche seems to be emptying. There are the smaller devices with touch interface (iPhone and knock-offs) that are booming, and then the netbooks are booming. But nothing in between. I'm not sure what my next move will be. I've had my x7500 for over 18 months, which is an eternity. But I can't convince myself that there is anything new that I would be happier with. What I really want is a faster, sleeker, lighter x7500 with a 60GB solid state drive. Wouldn't other people want that??
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Dude you hit it right on the nail. Or atleast something with an upgradeable memory along with Micro SDHC slot built in, and onboard USB host (no attachments).
hmm
the athena is dieing no one cooks roms for it last was ap5 i think , i love my x7501 ,but the kaiser has more cooks i havent flashed sence ap4 release and i know some one could cook up something better,can a kaiser rom run on a x7501?
Dude where u been?
hey flexedrubi
Mitchy Prima has released many ROMS far above the calibre of the AP ROMS.
I am sure the last one was less than a month ago....
I dont know how u missed it....It is WIZ BANG PA_TANG! (very good)
So go flash it.......
We are indeed a small crowd with our devices and I dont know if anything will come along, I think we are a single generation which were before our time.
In the future we will have XP....sorry VISTA (hssss) or even windows 7 machines - (which are pushing touch screen tech further than Win mobile) the same size and with the same capacity/functionality as our Advantages.
Asus EE pc's come with Sim Card slots now and all you need to use them as phones.
The HTC advantage with the stock Mobile 5 ROM was a pretty awfull device to use as a primary phone we were pioneers with patience lol
Mitchys ROMS have elevated it to heights but its still not really ready to compete with other OS's in terms of simple phone, music, and camera usage
I have been using a combo of N95 8GB (for music, camera and calls) and an x7500 for data for a while now. There is nothing I can see that can beat this combo....
The X7500 is the ONLY PPC in my opinion that I can use for work
Wifi to connect to office (or VPN)
USB host for keyboard and mouse
VGA out for monitor
RDP for TS to access everything I need
I have never used or seen another PPC that could take its place!
I just bought a Sumsung Omnia, I flashed up to newest decent custom firmware (far better than Tmobile stock ROM which was quite bad!) and I loaded up loads of tunes and movies etc, put all my usefull apps on it and expected it to take over from my old combo...
Impossible!
It just cant do it!
I think that Windows 7 (not mobile) or what ever its being called is being designed to plug in to all hardware....
yarod - so what about the Omnia didn't make it good enough to take over from your current combo?
Athena lives?
Just got this from an rss. Looks like Athena lives! Look at this article http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2357 and you'll see the "Athena 2" apparently code named "Thoth."
Woo hoo!
Wow!
This is indeed good news!
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I hope they come out with a T mobile USA 3G version. If not i'm running to AT&T end of my contract before I purchase this handy looking Thoth.
Very good to see that they are continuing development with the Athena line, but it doesn't look much different than the 7510. Still lacks the buttons they took away with the 7510, so right there its a no-go for me.
This is good news
CHECK OUT THIS LINK ALSO
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/12/htcs-full-2009-line-up-leaked
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yarod - so what about the Omnia didn't make it good enough to take over from your current combo?
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Hi Techntrek
- The omnia was great......BUT comparing to my N95 8GB.........and the Ameo as combo.....
Main things that annoyed me........
unable to use headphones and charge at same time with out of box solution
Also no 3.5 jack without the adapter
FM radio didnt list radio station name ....RDS or something?
Battery (even with newest ROM) doesnt last as long as Nokia (screen is much bigger so maybe that is whats causing it....)
GPS doesnt work as well I only got a FIX Once with my Omnia.......Ameo seems to fix much more reliably as does N95.
Screen is too small to use Remote desktop properly after using ameo - interestingly in this case the only remote app I have for Nokia is logmein which is rubbish
No USB host and I dont want to waste money on Bluetooth combo (top dollar) as I just got a MX3200 set.
The phone application is not as reliable at all.....same with all windows mobile devices, the dialler and phone app on the N95 is integrated into the OS in a much more pleasent fashion - no hangs no issues even if I am running Multiple Applications (web, MMS, video, FM radio etc) the phone app kicks in and out faster and more efficiently with never a crash....
There was no in line remote solution (next/last track, volume, change radio station....
But the omnia could record FM radio!! That was kick ass!
Interesting. Well, here's to many more useful years with our Athenas!
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Very good to see that they are continuing development with the Athena line, but it doesn't look much different than the 7510. Still lacks the buttons they took away with the 7510, so right there its a no-go for me.
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I don't think they are going to bring back the buttons anymore because they are pushing for the touch capacitive screens with integrated touch 3d. We might even loose whatever button is present on the X7510 as it is.
which phone you buy after using gene ?
did you happy with WM OS phone or switch to other OS or brand ?
which is feature you don't like of Your gene
I don't like to extusb port I cant use my own headphones even I can't find HTC acessories
haree said:
hi all
im kinda getting bored of my gene thats how i am i get the itch and i just change my phone and this one has been with me for around a yr
i cant buy s 3Gdimond(too costly for me) but i want to buy only a HTC
i thought why not Viva can u all kindly give me ur suggestions and pricing u are aware of pls
but i want to buy HTC only
Thanks
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feature vise u get only more ram + wifi if you have gene
better wait save some money and go for dimond here is mumbai it cost u 18-19 k = you get 500mgz+ speed VGA More RAM Touch Flo 3D GPU perfect phone for Windows phone 6.5 / 7
thanks
hi
thanks for ur info and avise but i was told that diamond does not have expandable mem and that it has 4gb on board am i right as u say may be ill control my crazy itch for some time and wait for some price drop on the 3G
thanks again buddy
ankit360 said:
feature vise u get only more ram + wifi if you have gene
better wait save some money and go for dimond here is mumbai it cost u 18-19 k = you get 500mgz+ speed VGA More RAM Touch Flo 3D GPU perfect phone for Windows phone 6.5 / 7
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i like p3400 very much ....its really tough phone.....even though it lacks wifi (major problem) and it doesnt hv 3.5 mm jack
its' been more thn one year since i hv Gene ....n i gotta say that m very satisfied with its service..and battery life..
after gene i hv purchased two More HTC devices...HTC Diamond and HTC Touch HD....
but still i like gene so much...that i even dont wanna resell it...
i m thinkin to keep it....untill it lasts...
Some features r even better than HTC Diamond
like its Sound ( TOuch HD has best though)
Battery..(unbeatable)
memory card expansion (diamond lacks),,,
So....my opinion is.....if u hv Gene once,,....u cant forget it.....
So....my opinion is.....if u hv Gene once,,....u cant forget it.....
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+1 for this.
looks like u say......
hi all
reading all this it looks like all u guys are saying curb that bad itch to buy new phone and just keep the gene it looks quite convincing so may be ill keep my gene for some time till the itch to buy is so bad and may be down the line 3g would get cheaper thanks to all here for ur inputs
cause u kinda convinced me not to buy a new phone and my wife she would be happy about this as shes already kicking my A when i said im planning to buy a new phone
thanks a million guys
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Its actually not just Gene, I can never forget my S710 (I gifted it to some one). First when I got my hands on it, I thought OMFG what a device! But now when I see touch Pro, my mouth starts watering . So, the first "Good" phone will always have a special place in your heart. Like I have a really soft corner for my Vox (and Nokia E50 ).
So in my opinion, if you feel like changing your phone (always a good idea ), Go for a higher processor. You can find specs at gsmarena.com.
I personally wish, I can some day afford a Touch Pro, or its successor or atleast a Tilt.
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So in my opinion, if you feel like changing your phone (always a good idea ), Go for a higher processor
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well bro...i dont think so...that having higher processor makes a phone good...
having both touch HD n Touch diamond...i still think that gene is fast enough...
cuz in touch HD...i cant play even a video right......i mean...whtever format i use....at high quality (touch HD is supposed to play vid at high resolution 800x480) it always gets stuck.....and if i use low bitrate n low resolution...than it looks so bad.....
and both of thes high performance phones get hang a lot....
video in diam is good....but still watching vids in Touch HD at optimum quality is mystery for me..
ever core player in both phones doesnt support hardware acceleration.....so...its useless.......cuz using HTC for watching video.....sucks....
i mean no functions in HTC album at all...
only thing with thes higher devices r ther RAM.......plenty of free RAM is available in thes phones.. ....so...thts good....
and......wht to tell abt GPS........both touch HD n Diam seems so worth gps technology..........it takes so much time for getting "fix"..
so....i mean,......we waste lot of money in thes higher end phones (Diam is of Rs 24K n Touch HD comes in 42K .....and we get wht...?? ....
HTC should do something about it........really....i mean it..
but both phone u said has issues with their graphics drivers , just look in the dev hack section and u will know what i mean . HD is notorious for its play back issues. Any OMHO a faster processor is required for faster execution of code . And higher the graphics, more complex the code.
but both phone u said has issues with their graphics drivers , just look in the dev hack section and u will know what i mean . HD is notorious for its play back issues. Any OMHO a faster processor is required for faster execution of code . And higher the graphics, more complex the code.
Also a ppc is like a PC only if u upgrade your pc, wont you go for a higher CPU?
QVGA VGA or WVGA
my friend is impress with HTC gene and ask me which HTC phone is good to buy he ask me about 64k colors limitation of windows mobile. is quality of 64k VGA screen = 256 or 16m QVGA screen ?
@ Guys : Any idea about Samsung Omnia pro 7230? It is selling at 13-14 K, has wm6.1, 3G enabled, Qwerty keypad and looks like good business phone (blackberry style). See Specifications
Is it worth a buy as I am planning to purchase a Qwerty keypad phone with WM OS and relatively good battery life?
Please suggest some options within 15K? Blackberry or Nokia E63 ruled out.... Hope some support will also be available for these devices as well.
WHICH GOOD PHONESCR AVAILABE OH HTC BTN 14-15k?
techmate said:
@ Guys : Any idea about Samsung Omnia pro 7230? It is selling at 13-14 K, has wm6.1, 3G enabled, Qwerty keypad and looks like good business phone (blackberry style). See Specifications
Is it worth a buy as I am planning to purchase a Qwerty keypad phone with WM OS and relatively good battery life?
Please suggest some options within 15K? Blackberry or Nokia E63 ruled out.... Hope some support will also be available for these devices as well.
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any Windows Mobile base phone rules on business phone
I might say I spent the last week, doing less appointments and worrying more about my cute but bricked New Gene, but finally succeeded today in the morning at 2 A.M. (Thanx to Orefkov n Sumit).
But that has made the phone even dearer to me, I was a mad fan of Nokia, but HTC P3400i has definitely usurped the position now.
Planning for an Xperia next though, but Gene will always be my first n foremost in the touch category.........
I would like to buy a bigger screen one, like HTC TOUCH HD ,but I am in china. It now cost feckly 3300RMB.
@Guys : My Gene is deadIt fell in bucket full of water and has been declared as not worth further repair. Sent to burial....
I have bought Samsung OmniaPro 7320 ( Similar to Samsung Jack) without touch screen. It has Windows 6.1 Standard, 3 G, 3 MP camera, Wifi , GPS all other features. Sounds Great
But I am really missing the customised ROMs, applications, home screen themes and ..the Touch Screen feel. Many of WM applications like Clear temp, Resco Explorer, Oxios Memory etc. fail to install.
Could anybody help/direct me to sites where I can decent customised home screen and some custom applications compatible with Samsung Omnia Pro??
I hear Samsung would be making available WM6.5 upgrade available shortly. God Knows I am really missing XDA developers.
anyone have idea about Acer E101 because it has a good configuration at very low price if we compare with HTC devices
if anyone have this device plz share ur experience ..
thanks !!!!!!
I get the new HTC MAGIC 32A with android, at moment much better than WM
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@Guys : My Gene is deadIt fell in bucket full of water and has been declared as not worth further repair. Sent to burial....
I have bought Samsung OmniaPro 7320 ( Similar to Samsung Jack) without touch screen....I am really missing XDA developers.
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Samsung Omnia Pro is a piece of [email protected] Regret buying it. BTW you can install apps using clearsecurity.
Waiting to save enough dough to buy a HTC Touch Screen device ... pay be Touch2