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[Q] Google Maps with GPS

hi everyone ! can anyone tell me how i can use Google Maps with Gps technology ?? when i select "Use GPS" it says "Network Unavailable"

You're connected to the Internet?

An activated GPRS, EDGE or UMTS is necessary.

sharax said:
You're connected to the Internet?
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no i'm not !
Dnst said:
An activated GPRS, EDGE or UMTS is necessary.
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you mean if i want to browse maps with gps, i have to connect to the internet ??

Oh yes the maps are not on your device they are downloaded!!

Google Maps gets your location from the GPS sensor, but then has to go online to download the actual map data for that area.

so if the map of the area we are in, was downloaded befor then i think there wont be any problem ! i think it would be just like the quick gps software in diamond ! am i right ?

I think that should be a way of download the map and use it offline. Some cracker should make it easy

diogoperas said:
I think that should be a way of download the map and use it offline. Some cracker should make it easy
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hehe, i tried 5 different apps and currently use gpsVP /w cached Gmaps imgs
pretty good for a free app, altho not totally easy to set up as there is no info...
since there is no maps for japan that i know of, never tried a commercial product, then again i prefer gmaps and my brain for navigation

diogoperas said:
I think that should be a way of download the map and use it offline. Some cracker should make it easy
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in the last few versions of gmaps just install it onto the storage card and then you can just save whats in the applicationdata\googlemaps folder and use that offline

Dnst said:
An activated GPRS, EDGE or UMTS is necessary.
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Can also be Wifi.

hey everybody, first post here....
i read that i should not start new posts if theres one going already.
I got my diamond about a month ago, its an alltel cdma diamond with original ROM, no registry tweaks, pretty much stock.
the GPS is being finicky. ive tried atleast 10-15 different GPS applications (all freeware or trials) and they are alway hit or miss. sometimes i get a 6-12 sat lock in seconds, even indoors... but sometimes i cant lock on outside even after 15min or more (even if i had a lock on less then 8hrs earlier). Ive been trying to find a pattern to why it sometimes works (certain settings, maybe after a resets, quick gps, etc)
side note, i used the G-Watch app while in poland where i have no phone coverage. it worked perfectly everytime i turned it on with almost instant lockon. but back in florida every program i try sometimes works and sometimes doesnt, even if i turned the phone to airplane mode.
question 1- is this considered normal for the alltel diamond
question 2- does the software that costs money (ie tomtom) work any better/more consistently
question 3 - could there be something wrong with my phone
question 4 - any ideas how to make it more stable
thanx for the help

also, on some of the gps programs, it will say i have found up to 8 or so sats, but wont lock onto any of them...
thanx again

Do you have to have data plan for GPS?

I have T-Mobile USA. Can I use the GPS without a data plan?

What is meant by data plan ?

azahidi said:
What is meant by data plan ?
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Internet Plan
I only have a plan with minutes and no internet.

DanRo80 said:
Internet Plan
I only have a plan with minutes and no internet.
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Some GPS applications, e.g. Garmin mobile and many freeware GPS apps, do not require internet connection. Google maps mobile requires internet connection, of course.

azahidi said:
Some GPS applications, e.g. Garmin mobile and many freeware GPS apps, do not require internet connection. Google maps mobile requires internet connection, of course.
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And you are not able to use QuickGPS for faster detection of the satellites.
But I do not know if this is necessary/useful for these programs.

MvBoe said:
And you are not able to use QuickGPS for faster detection of the satellites.
But I do not know if this is necessary/useful for these programs.
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True that QuickGPS is supposed to assist in faster GPS detection. However I am not sure how much faster, I mean by how many seconds faster (no empirical measure). From my experience, satellite detection without QuickGPS updated for a few weeks, is still quite fast, a few ten seconds - but still dependant on the sky/cloud condition. I am talking from where I live - equatorial. I am not sure about north of the tropics (Europe and N.America)

A definite no!
You do not need a data plan to use the GPS! Depending on which cellular company you go with, some of their people will try to tell or sell you on a plan. You do not need it.
For WM 5 and above, it is recommended that you let WM manage your GPS for all programs. To do this go to the System Settings tab and select the External GPS app (why it is called external is beyond me). Then move through the tabs to configure the GPS. Ideally, use a port that is not in use. I typically use 9. Then click the box to have WM manage the GPS for all programs that need data from it.
Now, you just need software and there is plenty of free programs out. One utility I recommend is GPS Toggle (http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gps-toggle.html ). This small Today screen plug-in will turn on the Jade GPS to quote warm it up for you. If the GPS has not been turned on in awhile, it can take up to 10 minutes or longer to have it lock onto four satellites which is what is considered necessary for satellite navigation (satnav). During this period, the satellites will use your time signal as one of the primary pieces of info to sync your GPS. Then based upon the positon of the satellites, they will identify your location. Once they have downloaded enough data to the GPS and are in sync, your GPS will become satnav capable.
Another app you might to look at is GPSToday (http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gpstoday-v0-9.html#). I recommend setting this app as separate one and not a Today screen plug-in but that is your choice after reviewing what it is capable of doing. I love that it can geotag pictures taken by Jade which basically takes quote dumb or pictures that do not have typical computer info written into them. You can even use it to mark where you parked your car (at a stadium or large event), store the coordinates and have it navigate back to your car. Another good use is for geocaching.
These are just two small apps. What you really want now is iGO8 (highly recommended), TomTom or another commercial software program.
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running iGO8

Everywhere I look it seems that iGO8 is only for iPhone, but people say they are using it. I am also in the United States.

DanRo80 said:
Everywhere I look it seems that iGO8 is only for iPhone, but people say they are using it. I am also in the United States.
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If you look here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472110&highlight=gps+software), it might give you an idea. iGo8 has been used on Jade.

azahidi said:
If you look here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472110&highlight=gps+software), it might give you an idea. iGo8 has been used on Jade.
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Yeah, I was in there. It's just that the website said that it was for the iPhone and it looked like it was for Europe only. Nevermind, I am just dopey. I see that it is also for America and Canada.

Nexus AGPS

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the N1's AGPS radio is functional without an active mobile/cel connection? Would love to be able to turn the phone radio off when travelling abroad but still have access to GPS functionality.

GPS will work, but it'll lock in slower.. AGPS involves sending the data to a server somewhere else you get a faster lock, so you'll need a data connection for that.
You will of course not be able to see any maps without data also.

Turn on "Airplane" mode; GPS still works.
Cheers,
Kermee

Thanks for those answers. I used to keep a TyTnII around just for the GPS functionality while on vacation overseas, but if this works and I can find a suitable nav program, should be great =)

cliffy15 said:
Thanks for those answers. I used to keep a TyTnII around just for the GPS functionality while on vacation overseas, but if this works and I can find a suitable nav program, should be great =)
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Aye. You'd need the maps on SD if you don't have data connectivity. I don't even know if Google Maps + Nav works outside of the U.S. (with or without hacks) even if you were roaming on data...
Cheers,
Kermee

Kermee said:
Aye. You'd need the maps on SD if you don't have data connectivity. I don't even know if Google Maps + Nav works outside of the U.S. (with or without hacks) even if you were roaming on data...
Cheers,
Kermee
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I never used the audio nav feature, but the rest of it definitely did work for me in AUS. Although it cost me a pretty penny to use it ($15/1MB transfer fee) with international data roaming ...

Rogers SE X10 Questions

So my dad got this phone but he doesnt want it anymore so he is giving it to me. However, my plan does not have data and im not planning on getting any so I have some questions
1) What kind of features will/will not work. I noticed that the CoPilot GPS can preload maps but how good is the GPS without data/wifi? (My C905a does within 800m with Wi-Fi -.-)
2) Rooting the phone allows me to use apps not from the Android market right? Whats the risk of bricking the phone? And if I break it, what cost will rogers or any other trusted place repair it for?
3) Do most Android/other apps work without data/wifi.
Thanks!

1) Everything will work, apps that need internet will need you to be near wifi
GPS is way better than wifi at locating..
2) No. You don't need to root for that.
3) Yeah.

zephyrix said:
1) Everything will work, apps that need internet will need you to be near wifi
GPS is way better than wifi at locating..
2) No. You don't need to root for that.
3) Yeah.
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So what are the main advantages of rooting? How good is the GPS without any internet?

xGary said:
So what are the main advantages of rooting? How good is the GPS without any internet?
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I don't have a dataplan either, and got X10, for use with WiFi.
Something like CoPilot Live works perfectly, it just needs to download maps via wifi, and once downloaded, doesn't need internet. Try out MapDroyd (it's FREE but doesn't give navigation, but it's offline maps, so once downloaded to your phone, it doesn't use internet), or NavDroyd is a simple navigation program costing $5.
Google Maps needs constant internet connection pretty much.
Advantage of rooting, for now, isn't much in that sense; there's a few apps that need root access to do more tweaking (such as AdBlock and setCPU) but you can live perfectly without it.
Call Rogers and tell them to block data on their end, so you don't accidentally start using data and get billed hard
Oh, and there's a Rogers app on there called My Account, I think... it won't work with wifi connection, it needs 3g connection. it just tells you about your usage, like minutes and texts and data and things like that. You can get all that info online from the rogers website anyway, but you asked what won't work, and that's the only thing that won't work i think

xGary said:
So what are the main advantages of rooting? How good is the GPS without any internet?
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The advantage of rooting is better battery life, more sensitive touch screen and faster in pretty much all tasks. Well worth it and the risk is pretty minimal if you fallow the guide.

[Q] what gps google ?

Hi guys I have just attempted to use the satnav installed on the MDJ 1.7 rom which I believe is google ? anyway I can get a gps lock by using gps-status then in the application it hangs on getting directions and will only work using the data connection any ideas ? or is there a better one ?

Just wondering fi tis fault with google or the GPS ? I can get lock so must be with the app ?
Oh it does work using data connection but no good in europe or USA.
I guess I could use WM just for SAtNav and copilot or tomtom but would be nice to have it all working.

AFAIK, it gets your location with GPS and then attempts to calculate the route, which requires a data connection. I'm not sure whether it needs the data connection after that or not, but I've driven 100's of miles using it and have never had the map stop moving or lose any information, so I don't believe it uses data during the journey. Maybe just a touch every now and then.
If it gets your location and then fails calculating your route then it suggests that there is an issue with your data connection.

johncmolyneux said:
AFAIK, it gets your location with GPS and then attempts to calculate the route, which requires a data connection. I'm not sure whether it needs the data connection after that or not, but I've driven 100's of miles using it and have never had the map stop moving or lose any information, so I don't believe it uses data during the journey. Maybe just a touch every now and then.
If it gets your location and then fails calculating your route then it suggests that there is an issue with your data connection.
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Ahh that makes sense now so it needs data connection to download the route data then you can switch it off.
Still bit crap when you are abroad because data charges are like £1 per mb or so.
So guess I may get co-pilot from the "market" which seams quite reasonable ?
Thanks.