wat?????!!!! the Acer is %15-%20 faster than the HD2 - HD2 General

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zsNI-kjz4s&feature=player_embedded
both are very fast compared to current devices but the acer plays the video clip @ %262. HD2 plays the same clip at only %228. considering that both have the same CPU and considering that the HD2 had dedicated 128 video memory and much more available memory, do these numbers make any sense to you?
the Touch diamond 2 was also about %13 faster than my xperia playing the same video in core player even though they have the same CPU speed
UPDATE: WTH the new Retail ROM is Even slower in everything
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/11/11/htc-hd2-retail-rom-benchmarks-slower-than-before/
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there absolutely no reason for this big difference between the two devices. especially when you consider that the NeoTouch has less specs.
would someone with a device try to disable Manilla and redo these tests
hope the HSPL gets done soon enough

the only thing i can think of that make explain part of the discrepancy, is that the s200 has a cleaner smaller rom.
anybody here with an HD2 can do some tests with core player and see the effect of speed after disabling Sense

I couldn't believe it aswell. Mayb having a smaller screen makes a diffrence....
If the HD2 does not turn into what it suppose to be, I'ma get me a Acer F1.

THE GRIZZ said:
both are very fast compared to current devices but the acer plays the video clip @ %262. HD2 plays the same clip at only %228. considering that both have the same CPU and considering that the HD2 had dedicated 128 video memory and much more available memory, do these numbers make any sense to you?
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Given HTC's previous attitude when it comes to getting performance out of hardware, it makes perfect sense and is exactly what I would have expected.
THE GRIZZ said:
the Touch diamond 2 was also about %13 faster than my xperia playing the same video in core player even though they have the same CPU speed
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Same CPU clockspeed, but a different CPU. The MSM7200 is a lot faster than the MSM7201.

Shasarak said:
Given HTC's previous attitude when it comes to getting performance out of hardware, it makes perfect sense and is exactly what I would have expected.
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Would make sense if they used different OS:s or different versions of coreplayer, but as they don't something else must be wrong here.

Still it was not the final HD2 ROM, so relax, nothing to worry about yet.

Toss3 said:
Would make sense if they used different OS:s or different versions of coreplayer, but as they don't something else must be wrong here.
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Like the drivers?
xmoo said:
I couldn't believe it aswell. Mayb having a smaller screen makes a diffrence....
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They have the same resolution, how can the screen affect it?
xmoo said:
If the HD2 does not turn into what it suppose to be, I'ma get me a Acer F1.
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I wouldn't pay money for an Acer even if it had the speed of a supercomputer and made coffee.

vangrieg said:
Like the drivers?
They have the same resolution, how can the screen affect it?
I wouldn't pay money for an Acer even if it had the speed of a supercomputer and made coffee.
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maybe (long-shot here) but what he means is that the power to keep the screen on is using the CPU power hence the loss of power going to playback, resulting in lower percentage.... the movie also started after the Acer, even though they were pushed at the same time...
maybe the htc sense is using up "power" ?
btw, +1 on second phrase.... but about the coffe... do you think it can make hot coco to?

vangrieg said:
Like the drivers?
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The drivers don't matter in coreplayer as neither have gpu-acceleration in that specific application, so it all comes down to general processing speed in which they should pretty much equal each other. Guessing HTC's own rom is a bit slower than acer's, but that should be fixed by all of the very talented cooks on this forum.

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The drivers don't matter in coreplayer as neither have gpu-acceleration in that specific application
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Really? Does CorePlayer not need APIs like DirectX to render? And what makes those APIs work with hardware?

vangrieg said:
Really? Does CorePlayer not need APIs like DirectX to render? And what makes those APIs work with hardware?
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This post by Betaboy should clear things up:
Betaboy said:
All I want to be very, very clear here as I have stated this a few times in these and other forums like XDA.
- Qualcomm has not released ANY public info in regards to snapdragon/QTV.
- What we added for overlay support was based on the exposed API's when we reverse engineered it.
- There are no other means of 'public' access to the API's and how the GPU functions (no matter how hard we could have reverse engineered it.)
What I have stated publicly is all that I 'can' say on the subject (read into that as you see fit).... we have worked on hardware acceleration, the details of which I cannot disclose. So any OEM solutions that license CorePlayer, will benefit from any such efforts.
In short... Will there be a 'consumer' version of CorePlayer that supports Snapdragon? No, not unless Qualcomm opens up the API's to the public.
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This post by Betaboy should clear things up:
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It doesn't. CorePlayer has a "Qtv" mode where they use their own "driver" - well, sort of. But there are also other ways to render video in CP - DirectX, GDI and RawFrameBuffer, if I remember correctly. If you use APIs like DirectX, you'll need a device driver for it to work. I don't know which mode they used in the benchmark.

THE GRIZZ said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zsNI-kjz4s&feature=player_embedded
both are very fast compared to current devices but the acer plays the video clip @ %262. HD2 plays the same clip at only %228. considering that both have the same CPU and considering that the HD2 had dedicated 128 video memory and much more available memory, do these numbers make any sense to you?
the Touch diamond 2 was also about %13 faster than my xperia playing the same video in core player even though they have the same CPU speed
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I love ACER F1

!!! its almost %20 slower than the Acer which has less specs
HTC messed up something real bad

at least its beating the toshiba tg01 here
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/4wm-reviews-hardware/22380-o2-htc-hd2-review.html

Even my HD have 8 to 10% more benchmark when Touchflo3D is disabled.
Also, the Acer have lesser hardware comparing to HD.
(like lack of GPS, compass)
So, this is actually acceptable performance.

Lack of gps?
What are you talking about? I have an Acer F1 and the gps works fine.

QTv is not necessary/not implemented in Snapdragon cause this option doesnt exist for Coreplayer. Also the DirectDraw and GDI mode doesnt work for Qualcomm's former processors (like 72xx). Im very sure HTC messed up the drivers like they always do ^^.

Acer may be faster, but you know it will broke after 12 months and 1 day

i did a benchmark of my HD2 and the result index is 2040, a better result than what is written in your comparison.
I think, these test was made with the first HD2 and not with those which are sold now...

Related

EA and HTC will cooperate and create terrific games!!!

The best thing which could happen!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8148.html
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EA Mobile and HTC will produce games for our device! They will use the whole dark and mighty power of our black stone. The games will be fitted for 528Mhz and will use the G-Sensor, they will be cornerstones for the next generation of pocket PCs. A game tailor-made for the Touch HD, it cannot be bad!
Maybe they will even work on a driver for the Quadcomm CPU!
...
I hope its not a very stupid april joke. What do you think about it?
After playing and experiencing Xtract, i always knew the Blackstone was more than capable of playing these kinds of games.
So this venture is possible, even Boom Blox by EA plays at WVGA for HD and nice graphics, so they definitely have the coders capable.
Is this the right version of Need For Speed?
http://www.dotsis.com/mobile_phone/showthread.php?p=827881
The graphics are very smooth on the HD
marcel808 said:
Is this the right version of Need For Speed?
http://www.dotsis.com/mobile_phone/showthread.php?p=827881
The graphics are very smooth on the HD
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Nope, that's a standard version of NFS:Undercover.
Have you evern seen Racing games on the iPhone?
It is possible to navigate your car by turing the iPhone like a driving wheel!
Do you think it will be possible to do this? Has the HD the hardware requirement for this?
Koffein Schluck said:
Have you evern seen Racing games on the iPhone?
It is possible to navigate your car by turing the iPhone like a driving wheel!
Do you think it will be possible to do this? Has the HD the hardware requirement for this?
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Yeah, why do you think pictures or programs rotate when you rotate the phone, same piece of technology can be used to control games.
Teeter and Resco Bubbles already do this.
Psygnosis84 said:
Yeah, why do you think pictures or programs rotate when you rotate the phone, same piece of technology can be used to control games.
Teeter and Resco Bubbles already do this.
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I know, that the HD as a accelerometer, but I hope it is as good as the iPhones...
Koffein Schluck said:
I know, that the HD as a accelerometer, but I hope it is as good as the iPhones...
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No difference here. Go to the gsensor calibration app and you'll see how sensitive it is.
cab files
There are a few knocking around but I cannot find any for the latest version with gensor support, anyone found one yet - the existing cabs work very well in full screen mode though we what seems to be full acceleration. However the apple version I have seen on utube (if it is real) is graphically way ahead.
On sale now @ Handango
http://www.handango.com/catalog/Pro...250760&merch=more_author_titles&ad=mat_250760
about time they show off the true power of the HTC Touch HD
joshloh said:
On sale now @ Handango
http://www.handango.com/catalog/Pro...250760&merch=more_author_titles&ad=mat_250760
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To my mind it's not the new Touch HD version, but the old game allready mentioned in post #3!
We should be patient, they have to produce it...
Koffein Schluck said:
To my mind it's not the new Touch HD version, but the old game allready mentioned in post #3!
We should be patient, they have to produce it...
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Nope, it IS the G-sensor enabled version! I just bought it from Handango and it does in fact allow you to steer just by tilting the phone!
This game is awesome! Make sure you get version 1.0.42 to ensure you are getting the version with g-sensor support.
This version is G-Sensor enabled....but its not the HTC version (I think anyway). It works in portrait mode only for me. In landscape the G-Sensor does not work properly. And the graphics are pretty good but only as good as the normal windows mobile version.
Best wait for the proper HTC version I think
joshloh said:
On sale now @ Handango
http://www.handango.com/catalog/Pro...250760&merch=more_author_titles&ad=mat_250760
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Is that the full 480x800 with GSensor version?
I found this but its in French and have no idea what it is entirely. Looks to be the "HD" version of the game.
Not sure really.
in fact it seems the HD version ...?????
This Need for Speed for the HD seems to be really bad. Terrible graphics and a bad controlling (altough it's with G-Sensor)
I love it!!!!
This thread should really be moved to the Themes, Applications and Software forum as its game/software related.
Otherwise, can someone confirm that this is correct version for HD and that G-Sensor works perfectly on both landscape & portrait modes
Honestly I haven't dnloaded it yet. Would those who had purchased this version kindly confirm? The game should work on landscape mode right?

Nexus 2

Okay, so I've had my Nexus one for a while now, and I was wondering what they could possibly do to the nexus 2 that would make it even better. I'm thinking probably a faster processor, and more ram, but what else comes to mind?
would love to see a FM Trans to like "broadcast" to the radio....Like those transmitters for mp3 players....Would be siiiick to have pandora or something playing over car radio via my phone
Don't they have something that does that already?
better use of the snapdragon processor, but that's software related... I would like it to be more durable such as made from a single block of aluminium. Also a powerful graphics chip.
htc fan89 said:
better use of the snapdragon processor, but that's software related... I would like it to be more durable such as made from a single block of aluminium. Also a powerful graphics chip.
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The HTC Legend is a sexy beast lol. I'd like to get my hands on one if it goes GSM.
Yeah, a more powerful graphics chip would be awesome, I just can't wait til the big developers start moving towards android so we can have some of the awesome games and apps the iPhone has.
HD2.
Android.
Win.
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HD2.
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Win.
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lol @ windows logo with android
lazaro17 said:
lol @ windows logo with android
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I'm guessing you don't know that the HD2 is
Maybe they'd include a secondary camera, FM and a coffee maker
lazaro17 said:
lol @ windows logo with android
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I second this. God that thing is amazing. But it won't look right until the Supersonic comes out. THEN a decent Rom will be possible in my eyes.
But with Windows Phone 7 I can imagine the devs are busy porting that to it right now.
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HD2.
Android.
Win.
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Heh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xok9E8SRCS0
Google HTC Scorpion......should be gsm of exactly what your dreaming of
Not that I could care less... but I would really love for the N2 to have a true multi-touch screen to shut that debate down... 1GB of RAM, 4GB internal ROM, 4" screen, XVGA LCD or SuperAMOLED... I don't like AMOLED for outdoor use. 10MP camera, with xenon flash... and of course Android 3.1!
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Not that I could care less... but I would really love for the N2 to have a true multi-touch screen to shut that debate down... 1GB of RAM, 4GB internal ROM, 4" screen, XVGA LCD or SuperAMOLED... I don't like AMOLED for outdoor use. 10MP camera, with xenon flash... and of course Android 3.1!
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For less than $500 right?
I will be keeping my Nexus for 2 or more years, whatever comes around the corner - i'll just port it over to the Nexus.. since the N1 is like the G1 in terms of development and popularity, I should be ok for a while..
(this is really what I'm just telling myself.. I dont want my precious Nexus to become.. not worth the time of day anymore...)
Why does technology have to advance so fast!! =(
front facing camera for video chat, a high quality speaker-phone, a kickstand with a projected laser keyboard? an hd projector component
hardware keyboard
x
I myself am sick of the having to chase technology.... I'm done for a bit, my n1 will sufficient for a year, I think thats a good time to get a new phone, once every year...
N1 just needs adobe flash and apps to sd and ill be happy as a cucumber....
Video recording capability @ 24 frames per second (constant!) with DECENT audio quality ... like the Milestone. Why have a 480x720 video resolution when the video is laggy and audio is utter crap? Also a flash option on the video recording would also be good - again, just like the Milestone.
Finally, make FM radio work and you have the perfect device.
the 1ghz processor is enough for me. the current amount of ram is enough- maybe a tad bump is cool.
get rid of the amoled display, 4-4.3 inch display. no trackball. sleep/wake from a hardware button like g1/mytouch. being able to shoot hd video.
other than that... having the nexus one has finally made me not eager to look/have the next best cellular device. this n1 almost kicks my netbooks ass

GLBenchmark: Nexus gets it's ass kicked

Hey guys,
I've been doing these benchmarks alot on WinMo before I got my first Android device. I always felt Winmo was sluggish, but look at this:
GLBenchmark link
I compared the Nexus with a Milestone, HD2 and 3GS. And it shocked me... The HD2 is faster at most benchmarks!
Is that because of the SDK with OpenGL ES 2.0 isn't used yet?
Hoping this could be improved, because I left Winmo because of this.
I don't believe this benchmark.
Okay, you're comparing several different platforms here. The HD2 and the Nexus One have the exact same GPU.
More accurate: this particular benchmark is faster on its Windows Mobile port than on its Android port.
scoring 100% in a benchmark can not be right?
frleus said:
scoring 100% in a benchmark can not be right?
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Generally speaking in these types of benchmarks, the benchmark is set by the highest-scoring device. 100% would be the king for that specific test.
You would be correct, Android 2.1 as it is on our phones doesn't have all of the graphics boosters. To bo honest, it isn't that surprising IMHO, since these benchmarks are hugely influenced by the software itself, otherwise ROM cooking wouldn't do anything for increasing these #'s.
Maybe you could re-run this with a Cyan ROM, which has lots of those little things added in, such as the Arm Neon graphics inhancing(or whatever the heck its exact name is).
Also, keep in mind, that there are more important factors than "benchmarks".
pjcforpres said:
You would be correct, Android 2.1 as it is on our phones doesn't have all of the graphics boosters. To bo honest, it isn't that surprising IMHO, since these benchmarks are hugely influenced by the software itself, otherwise ROM cooking wouldn't do anything for increasing these #'s.
Maybe you could re-run this with a Cyan ROM, which has lots of those little things added in, such as the Arm Neon graphics inhancing(or whatever the heck its exact name is).
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I agree, with this, but adding one more thing instead of just testing different phones, test these benchmarks on cyan and emnother. With the nexus our graphics performance is aided by software so hardware isnt going to be the kicker between the hd2 and the nexus.
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Web based benchmarks are as fail as the DPI on the HD2.
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Web based benchmarks are as fail as the DPI on the HD2.
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In your experience which would be a good benchmark besides Linpack?
jlevy73 said:
In your experience which would be a good benchmark besides Linpack?
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Water submersion test.
TheDudeOfLife said:
Water submersion test.
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+ Drop Height.
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+ Drop Height.
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Submersion test + drop height = the angle of the dangle
I agree that static benchmarks aren't anything, but the Nexus should be at least able to score comparable to the HD2, right? Hardware is the same, it's just the software that differs... alot.
NeoS2007 said:
I agree that static benchmarks aren't anything, but the Nexus should be at least able to score comparable to the HD2, right? Hardware is the same, it's just the software that differs... alot.
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ah the quest for improving graphics on msm7k errr i mean snapdragon processors begin. Nice to see you've jumped to Android neoS2007
i think theres heaps of room for n1 to improve and count me if you decide on creating a group for improving graphics on the n1
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ah the quest for improving graphics on msm7k errr i mean snapdragon processors begin. Nice to see you've jumped to Android neoS2007
i think theres heaps of room for n1 to improve and count me if you decide on creating a group for improving graphics on the n1
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Good to see you here too babijoee. I'm trying to get someone on the MSM bandwagon to coordinate it, but Snapdragon is just so much more interesting... Anyways, goodtimes.
Anyways, I'm not setting up a group until i'm fairly certain the N1 CAN get better. I want to compare the N1 with the Desire and then again when OGLES 2.0 is fully implemented.
Nothing official but defiantly interesting:
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/04/21/google-getting-ready-to-dish-out-some-froyo/
I'm sure if everything mentioned here would defiantly give the n1 a substantial performance increase
Definitely worth waiting for. I'll see if I can track improvements in the graphics area of the N1 once Froyo is out.
NeoS2007 said:
Good to see you here too babijoee. I'm trying to get someone on the MSM bandwagon to coordinate it, but Snapdragon is just so much more interesting... Anyways, goodtimes.
Anyways, I'm not setting up a group until i'm fairly certain the N1 CAN get better. I want to compare the N1 with the Desire and then again when OGLES 2.0 is fully implemented.
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I just ran it on my Desire. The upload failed so i dont have exact figures to prove anything, but it looks much the same as the N1 listed on their site. Most things are within 5%. My HD2 running a dutty custom ROM and Chainfires driver hack is a bit faster.
Raging Thunder 2 run extremly fast on N1, faster than moto chaser on ipod touch 2g. Anyway mobile benchmarks are always bulls**t

Think I'm going to be...

leaving android behind
Got an upgrade for a phone that I haven't used, and this thing just looks amazing
http://www.phones-online.org/phones...hones/new-htc-touch-hd3-picture-exposure.html
Unfortunately it will run wp7, which tears my heart out that it doesn't have android. Hopefully there will be someone that will root it and be able to install android on it since android is open source.
Pretty much identical to the evo with a better processor, .2 bigger screen, amoled display, 16gb internal storage with 32gb support of sd card, 1gb ram (vs 512mb on evo).
Camera will be probably as ****ty as evo, but it still lacks android. idk how well wp7 will perform but from what i've seen android is a lot better in my mind.
Might wait a few months after it's release to see if it gets rooted and droided to buy it. Even with hardware specs, I don't think I could make a move to wp7 from android.
wow, definitely too bad that's for winmo
Surely a comparable (or better) EVO successor won't be too far off
C'ya sucka!
The hardware is not that much better. The real selling point of any phone now is OS. And Android is a clear winner to me. WM7 or WebOS may be awesome in the future...but it will take time to catch up, especially in apps.
firemedic1343 said:
C'ya sucka!
The hardware is not that much better. The real selling point of any phone now is OS. And Android is a clear winner to me. WM7 or WebOS may be awesome in the future...but it will take time to catch up, especially in apps.
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uhm yes there is. amoled > lcd, up to 48gb of data, 2x amount of ram (meaning more 3d apps, and faster performing phone), and as we know the .3 inch on screen makes a HUGE difference, another .2 will be killer, and the processor is newer (still snapdraggon but newer).
It's like taking all the good things about an evo, and then taking all the good things about epic and putting it together, plus some more. If this phone is released and not just another rumor, it would kill iphone4. Same hardware specs pretty much plus bigger screen, and 4g. Then all the iphone4 fan boys will stop jacking off at the sight of their phone.
The only minus is wp7, but i'm pretty sure that some dev is going to figure a way to run android on it. An android phone will never run wp7 because wp7 is not open source, but android is and so is htc sense. Meaning that someone will be able to port the same exact rom as htc stock to it, but this might or might not happen.
IMO Android will see a similar device. Hopefully Sprint picks it up.
Sent from my SUPERSONIC
Just got home a short time ago. While on the road with my EVO on the dash, it faithfully told me where I was going, allowed me to make/recieve calls via hands free bluetooth, all while streaming my music library from my server at home over 3g using Subsonic.
Yeah, sure, I can't wait to ditch this piece of crap for the latest piece of bling.
Win 7 Mobile. Multitasking???
Last-Chance said:
An android phone will never run wp7 because wp7 is not open source, but android is and so is htc sense.
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Since when is HTC Sense open source?
- Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.
HondaCop said:
Since when is HTC Sense open source?
- Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.
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it's not open source per say, but with the right kernel it can be packaged into the phone.
And as for multi tasking, it does offer it. you can have multiple first party apps running. It's just limiting the 3rd party apps from running because of battery issues. I've talked to multiple people that have tested out wp7 and they say battery is conserved REALLY well by doing this. Cutting down on third party apps draining battery. And that htc has a smaller battery than the evo, but i bet the one on hd3 lasts longer.
But this all doesn't matter since I'm not looking to get wp7. You guys took me as if I was supporting wp7. The hardware would do wonders for android, hence why i want to see a port before i buy it.
BUT then again, from some sources that have told me that you will be able to play xbox arcade games on it which use some AMAZING 3d graphics for a phone, versus android which has well pretty ****ty 3d games.
and as far as navigating and calling goes, you will be able to accomplish that easily. And stream music, just not from subsonic.
It's fake. 1.5 GHz Snapdragons aren't coming out until Q4 2011.
Award Tour said:
It's fake. 1.5 GHz Snapdragons aren't coming out until Q4 2011.
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the snapdragon could be fake, but the phone itself doesn't look like it. If you take a look at the demo that microsoft put together for the phones, you would see that it looks almost identical to this phone.
here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tuzlU5GAI
Last-Chance said:
the snapdragon could be fake, but the phone itself doesn't look like it. If you take a look at the demo that microsoft put together for the phones, you would see that it looks almost identical to this phone.
here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tuzlU5GAI
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I'm 99% sure it's fake. That photo has been circulating around for a very long time now. If the CPU spec is faked, so is the rest of it. With the HD3 expect nothing more than the Desire HD but with more storage -- maybe a update to the single core 1.3 GHz CPU.
Besides, it ain't about what kind of tool you have, it's all about how you use it!
it's not fake, but it isn't what it should be. Did some digging around and found this.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/htc-hd7-pictured-and-specced-by-rumormongers-trying-to-outdo-one/
Well guess it wont be for sprint since it states gsm and crap. no cdma =/. + evo sized screen + only 8gb built in + kick stand looks cheap and gay. Only plus side is that its amoled
lol that kick stand looks horrible to me
Ahh this is nothing more than a
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Android 3.0 Platform Highlights (and SDK preview)

"Android 3.0 is a new version of the Android platform that is specifically optimized for devices with larger screen sizes, particularly tablets."
See
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/01/android-30-platform-preview-and-updated.html
and
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html
Would love to see this on our Archos gen8 devices, but I guess that is unlikely...
Here are some of the highlights:
UI framework for creating great apps for larger screen devices: Developers can use a new UI components, new themes, richer widgets and notifications, drag and drop, and other new features to create rich and engaging apps for users on larger screen devices.
High-performance 2D and 3D graphics: A new property-based animation framework lets developers add great visual effects to their apps. A built-in GL renderer lets developers request hardware-acceleration of common 2D rendering operations in their apps, across the entire app or only in specific activities or views. For adding rich 3D scenes, developers take advantage of a new 3D graphics engine called Renderscript.
Support for multicore processor architectures: Android 3.0 is optimized to run on either single- or dual-core processors, so that applications run with the best possible performance.
Rich multimedia: New multimedia features such as HTTP Live streaming support, a pluggable DRM framework, and easy media file transfer through MTP/PTP, give developers new ways to bring rich content to users.
New types of connectivity: New APIs for Bluetooth A2DP and HSP let applications offer audio streaming and headset control. Support for Bluetooth insecure socket connection lets applications connect to simple devices that may not have a user interface.
Enhancements for enterprise: New administrative policies, such as for encrypted storage and password expiration, help enterprise administrators manage devices more effectively.
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YES. This is awesome
Bonus video...
Motorola XOOM promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI1qwLtTukw
You DO really think that 101 will get honeycomb? dont be fool
No.. not for gen8.. maybe for the next generation.
Honeycomb needs dual processor and 512MB of RAM.. It maybe could be used on a rooted gen8 device with swap RAM and overclocked CPU??
Tesla74 said:
No.. not for gen8.. maybe for the next generation.
Honeycomb needs dual processor and 512MB of RAM.. It maybe could be used on a rooted gen8 device with swap RAM and overclocked CPU??
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Last i heard there was no requirement for Honeycomb, & that came from one of the Google employees. I'm trying to the the link where i saw this now.
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Last i heard there was no requirement for Honeycomb, & that came from one of the Google employees. I'm trying to the the link where i saw this now.
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Those must be recommended specs I read. Still if that is what is recommended then it may have a hard time without it being rooted.
We've got ample processing power & 3D power to run honeycomb. The question will be : will Archos do their homework ? (their track record is not so good) and if not then will there be a community driven effort to build one.
"Support for multicore processor architectures: Android 3.0 is optimized to run on either single- or dual-core processors, so that applications run with the best possible performance." - that clearly implies the ability to run it on a single core processor.
usersky007 said:
"Support for multicore processor architectures: Android 3.0 is optimized to run on either single- or dual-core processors, so that applications run with the best possible performance." - that clearly implies the ability to run it on a single core processor.
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Well, on the emulator it is awfully slow, but that's true with 2.2 too. Included Apps are:
Browser, Calculator, Camera, Clock, Contacts, Custom Locale, Dev Tools, Downloads, Email, Gallery, Messaging, Music, Search, Settings, Spare Parts (!), Speech Recording.
Got quite a few launcher restarts when using it, maybe giving the emulator only 256MiByte RAM (as Archos Gen8) might be too few to work with.
From what I've heard, the emulator is slow regardless.
hope there will be an update to 3.0 for archos 101,but is the hardware powerful enough to run it?
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Last i heard there was no requirement for Honeycomb, & that came from one of the Google employees. I'm trying to the the link where i saw this now.
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4qu4rius said:
We've got ample processing power & 3D power to run honeycomb. The question will be : will Archos do their homework ? (their track record is not so good) and if not then will there be a community driven effort to build one.
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usersky007 said:
"Support for multicore processor architectures: Android 3.0 is optimized to run on either single- or dual-core processors, so that applications run with the best possible performance." - that clearly implies the ability to run it on a single core processor.
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Sokini_ said:
hope there will be an update to 3.0 for archos 101,but is the hardware powerful enough to run it?
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read the previous posts ^
Hum, people have found this blue wallpaper?
lolo33 said:
Hum, people have found this blue wallpaper?
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/wallpapers-ringtones-themes/56561-honeycomb-wallapers.html
I've found another source but thanks anyway.
Somebody already has it somewhat working on the Nook Color which is less powerful than the Archos. Here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930223
I wish I had the skills to do this myself or I would. Ah well, since it is working on one, maybe somebody will take the time to get it running on the Archos. I doubt Archos will, they will save it for Gen 9. They will probably release a 2.3 release though.
koltz said:
Somebody already has it somewhat working on the Nook Color which is less powerful than the Archos.
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Running yes but very slow.

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