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sprint needs new htc love

seems like all the other carriers are in the line up for uber htc phones, in fact i think sprint is the only one of the big 4 not getting nexus, i thought there was hope for this phone, but now i see pics with t-bung-ile on it already =(...
ah well, thanks to fresh my hero roxzors anyway.!
i http://www.slashgear.com/htc-bravo-tipped-for-march-2010-launch-by-3-sweden-1469899/

kraash said:
seems like all the other carriers are in the line up for uber htc phones, in fact i think sprint is the only one of the big 4 not getting nexus, i thought there was hope for this phone, but now i see pics with t-bung-ile on it already =(...
ah well, thanks to fresh my hero roxzors anyway.!
i http://www.slashgear.com/htc-bravo-tipped-for-march-2010-launch-by-3-sweden-1469899/
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i was disappointed at first to hear that verizon would be getting nexus one and not sprint. but with the fact that we'll get 2.1 soon makes it okay for me. plus i'm really just waiting for another great qwerty android device that isn't all blocky like the moto droid.

kraash said:
in fact i think sprint is the only one of the big 4 not getting nexus
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AT&T isn't getting it...

Well, you can run the unlocked one on AT&T using an AT&T SIM, you just don't get 3G access cause the phone is tri-band not quad, and only meant for T-Mobile's 3G.

Got beat to the punch...

What keeps me waiting patiently is talks of qualcom bringing out dual-core 1.5ghz snapdragon cpu later this year, it'll make the nexus old news before you know it.

Dual core snapdragon would be insanity. Great stuff. I'll tell you something though. I am upset with the fact that Sprint isn't getting any of these cool phones either but they historically never have. I mean Palm is a little different because they have always loved Sprint but historically Sprint has never really had the latest and greatest. This could be a good thing though. I mean think about it. Sprint knows Android is big. They also know 2010 is their coming out party for WiMax. My theory is that Sprint is waiting for HTC to come out with a WiMax or EVDO/WiMax hybrid android phone. I expect by summer or, more likely, fall 2010 we will have the latest and greatest WiMax capable 1Ghz+ Android 2.1 (2.5 if it's released by then) phone. I figure by then I can sell my Hero and, assuming I have a job by then, by the coolest phone.
It's all a waiting game. Sad but that's what it all comes down to.

Yeah, Gizmodo has rumors of a Sprint WiMax HTC Android phone.. and from now on obviously HTC will have Snapdragons or better on all their flagship phones. We'll have a better phone than Nexus One with WiMax, which no other carrier will have.. thinkabout it.
In the mean time, embrace in the fact that we had the Hero when nobody else did.

I heard lots of problems of N1.
Google is hurry for the cellphone market.

oxeneers said:
Yeah, Gizmodo has rumors of a Sprint WiMax HTC Android phone.. and from now on obviously HTC will have Snapdragons or better on all their flagship phones. We'll have a better phone than Nexus One with WiMax, which no other carrier will have.. thinkabout it.
In the mean time, embrace in the fact that we had the Hero when nobody else did.
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I work for Sprint and its true about the Android 4g phone it will be comming up and it will be a LG phone don't know name on it but it will be hitting stores when 4g is mostly everywhere.:. I read about the on engaget.com n I'm assuming we will get the phone sometime by the end of 2rd q or beginning of 3rd quarter

eldiablito004 said:
I work for Sprint and its true about the Android 4g phone it will be comming up and it will be a LG phone don't know name on it but it will be hitting stores when 4g is mostly everywhere.:. I read about the on engaget.com n I'm assuming we will get the phone sometime by the end of 2rd q or beginning of 3rd quarter
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Dude, most definitely it won't be a LG phone. They make **** phones to begin with.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/sprint-bringing-on-a9292-wimax-phone-from-htc/
It will be HTC. For sure.

wow dual core 1.5ghz processor..dont think its really necessary since the iphone has full 3d insane graphic games with 600mhz processor..1ghz is great for me..
im seriously wanting to go to tmobile for that nexus one..but that $570 is just killing me and i am not going to pay $80 a month for phone..much rather pay $39 for unlimited internet and just use voip because i have great 3g coverage down here in irvine

i work for sprint to =)
and yes the android device with wiimax WILL be an htc device but also
LG will be making an android device for us called the Prada 3

i think when our hero's get the 2.1 update we will be caught up....thats all we need to catch up i think

sprint HAS to get an android phone with the snapdragon proc..

Joecrack305 said:
i work for sprint to =)
and yes the android device with wiimax WILL be an htc device but also
LG will be making an android device for us called the Prada 3
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any word on when these will hit the market ????

Agree'd, once we get 2.1 it will be great.
Sprint already carries smart phones from Motorola, Samsung, LG, Blackberry and HTC, plus they just added the HTC Touch Pro2. How many smart phones do they need? People need to stop shopping equipment and start thinking about service, rate plans, Monthly fee's, coverage areas and customer assistance, not to mention the reputation of the carrier. Damn, we all pay a monthly bill, its not for the phone we use, its the service plan we all have that compliments whatever phone equipment you want or have. Sprint has given us a nice selection to pick from imo.
Moving on, next topic pls........

looking forward to a 4g HTC Bravo!

eldiablito004 said:
I work for Sprint and its true about the Android 4g phone it will be comming up and it will be a LG phone don't know name on it but it will be hitting stores when 4g is mostly everywhere.:. I read about the on engaget.com n I'm assuming we will get the phone sometime by the end of 2rd q or beginning of 3rd quarter
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one problem with that statement......4g wont be "mostly everywhere" fo a couple more years. Planned for 2010 are Boston, Houston, New York, San Francisco and Washington, D.C. and only a handful of other smaller cities.

dont forget miami conference being held this week exactly
http://4g-wirelessevolution.tmcnet.com/conference/east-10/

G1 died today.....what phone to get

So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!

The HD2? It's Winmo but these clever minds here on XDA will soon put Android on it, I'm pretty sure.

I felt the MT3G is a vast difference from G1, and you can check out the 1.2 version as well.

mygti02 said:
So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!
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It sounds like we may be in similar situations, this is what I am thinking:
Im wondering the same thing. i have a mytouch, and wife now needs a new phone. Not getting the nexus bc of the family plan we have, and not gonna spend $500 on it.
Since it does not look like tmobile is coming out with any new (nexus like performance) phones really soon, this is what I think we are going to do, maybe good for you too:
I think we are going to find a mytouch on craigslist (like mine). hopefully for around $150. root it so that it runs good, and wait for tmobile to come out with something good, then use upgrade to get discount on new phone. Then sell the mytouch (purchased from craigslist) on ebay for about the same, if not more...
sounds like we are in the similar situations, so figured i would share about the only option I can see would be good. What do you think? good luck

mygti02 said:
Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever.
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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.

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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.
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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.

cigar3tte said:
Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Aside from the CDMA junk, both GSM versions are happy to work on other networks, not just the one whose 3G band is compatible.
I.e., the tmobile3G version is compatible with ATT2G, and the ATT3G version is compatible with tmobile2G. They are both compatible with INTERNATIONAL2G and some 3G.
Further, if you decide to go to.... europe, or wherever, with an unlocked phone, you can buy a LOCAL SIMCARD and it will work IFF your phone is unlocked.
But there is MORE TO BEING UNLOCKED than just sim-unlocked. There is also FIRMWARE unlocked, and with GN1, it is TRIVIAL -- "fastboot oem unlock" is the command. This allows you to load CUSTOM FIRMWARE to the device.... which is not possible with a carrier-branded device.
If you like the phone, buy it from google. They are a very reputable seller.
Expect this in the future though: as 2G dies away, you will start to see 3G-only devices with full 6-band 3G radios -- 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. These devices, when they appear, will be universal.

Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?

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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Did you bother to even read wtf you quoted? That's one of the most pathetic responses I've ever had the pain of reading.
Unless I misunderstood what you're trying to say. As of now... That's exactly what I said. They make more money like that instead of it just being T-Mobile. Or are they about to start putting out a different phone better than N1?

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Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?
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No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.

HD2
Heck yeah the HD2 is awsome, even though its not android. Like somebody above said people here at XDA will find a way to put android on it. That HUGE screen is amazing.

If you ask T-Mobile they are sure to say that one of their "lovely" blur devices is what you want, kindly kick their shin and spit on them if they do

and then Toot and, oh, I apologize, TWEET and inform us what phone you got on your way to jail.

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No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.
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JUST FYI, NO U.S.A carriers has been announced for the Desire or Legend and since HTC wants this to be their "super phone" it will most likely be GSM since it will be world compatible (on edge anyway) You are probably thinking about the HTC Incredible (A completely different phone)
Any way I would go with the HTC HD2 since it is a great device and there will be an android rom for it one day and when a great android phone comes out for t-mobile just sell the HTC HD2 (someone will buy it on XDA, you should get around $300 for it if you take care of it)

Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto

brettf said:
Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto
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moto isn't a good company. They been saying for a few months that the droid will get the 2.1 update in a week but it has been pushed back a lot of times. They finally pushed the update but to the milestone (droid's name for other countries) so now the droid users are pissed.
I would only choose moto for an android phone as a last resort because HTC is the brand for me.

WOW! The HTC Legend looks amazing!!
See pictures and review here: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-legend-675421/review

There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review

legend221 said:
There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review
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I thought the supersonic/EVO was the android version of HD2.

only thing I like about the HD2 is how big the screen is...yet so thin like a razor, but I'd much rather wait...even if the devs dished out a android rom for it tonight, I don't want to waste my upgrade on a WMO phone regardless of it's value or capability...simply because I'm stubborn
As far as the Desire goes, I believe it will be coming to T-mobile and if not, more likely a universal unlocked release like the N1...but as far as the Verizon only rumor, bullsh*t. HTC would never let me down like Moto did with the Droid
I have had up close experience with the N1, (friend of mines owns it), lovely phone, simply the best Android has to offer right now until proven otherwise by a later release, but I'm not going for it
If I'm going dish $500 bucks or more for something it will most def. be the Desire...because that is what I desire

Verizon Nexus One Officially Dead

http://googlenexusoneboard.blogspot.com/2010/04/update-on-nexus-one-partnerships.html
Nexus One News and Updates
Monday, April 26, 2010
An update on Nexus One partnerships
When we launched Nexus One in January, we announced partnerships with Vodafone in Europe and Verizon Wireless in the US. We have news on both fronts.
Today, Vodafone begins accepting pre-orders for Nexus One from customers in the United Kingdom at www.vodafone.co.uk/nexusone, and on April 30th Vodafone will start selling Nexus One in their UK stores, online, and over the phone. Soon after, they will also begin selling Nexus One in France (SFR), Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Spain. Vodafone is our first European partner to distribute the Nexus One.
In the US, if you’ve been waiting for the Nexus One for Verizon Wireless’ network, head over to http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible to pre-order the Droid Incredible by HTC, a powerful new Android phone and a cousin of the Nexus One that is similarly feature-packed. It will be available in stores on April 29th.
We are very pleased with the amazing pace of innovation and strength of the Android ecosystem and to be working with partners around the world to bring the Android experience to more people.
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BOOM.
Verizon Nexus One goes POOF.
My guess? Verizon didn't want the phone due to the 3G issues. Not that it's definitely a hardware issue, but they probably didn't want to take the chance.

Paul22000 said:
BOOM.
Verizon Nexus One goes POOF.
My guess? Verizon didn't want the phone due to the 3G issues. Not that it's definitely a hardware issue, but they probably didn't want to take the chance.
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Why would the CMDA version have the same 3G issues? It would have used a completely different radio than the current N1. I highly doubt that was the reason. My guess it that they either believe the Incredible would take too many N1 sales to make it profitable, or Verizon wants more control of the device than Google is willing to give them.
Regardless, it's not completely dead yet and there's still a chance Sprint will get it. I still don't know how well an unlocked CDMA phone could work though.

Doubtful that the 3G issues had anything to do with it. They most likely didn't want 2 nearly identical models to deal with. It wouldn't make any sense to carry both the Nexus One and the Incredible. On top of that, the Nexus One wouldn't be filled with the Verizon bloatware that the Incredible most likely will be.

Verizon probably wouldn't budge on their programming prices for the phones is the most likely reason.

I'm sure it had everything to do with the fact that why would you buy a phone for 529 when you can get almost the same phone for 199. N1 would have super failed on Verizon worse than TMO and ATT versions

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Why would the CMDA version have the same 3G issues? It would have used a completely different radio than the current N1.
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I believe the issues are with the radio being at the bottom, so the signal dropping by hand covering the bottom would affect it the same way.
I highly doubt that was the reason. My guess it that they either believe the Incredible would take too many N1 sales to make it profitable, or Verizon wants more control of the device than Google is willing to give them.
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Well, the Incredible has no bloatware to be found (see the videos on YouTube, particularly the ones by "jon4lakers"). The device is completely untouched, especially in comparison to AT&T's Backflip.
Regardless, it's not completely dead yet and there's still a chance Sprint will get it. I still don't know how well an unlocked CDMA phone could work though.
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I think CDMA phones can not be transferred from Sprint to Verizon. Someone correct me if that's wrong, but I've never heard of that happening.

I don't think they had planned to sell the phone standalone. It would have been subsidized like the t-mobile plan.

It's not too complicated...
Neither verizon..nor HTC would like for N1 to directly compete with their new phone. Google also has mentioned many times that N1 is not a competition to other android phones. they don't want to upset their partners.
Verizon just launched incredible, which is almost the same as nexus one. Verizon can change the name of incredible to match their droid branding.. which is not possbile with nexus one
further, incredible is verizon phone and they get all the profit from it.. not google. when I was talking with t-mobile they told me that T-Mobile has no profit or financial agreement with google.. infact the subsidy on the phone is by google and not t-mobile.
Again.. i can't stress more..but all phones have problems when back is covered. All phones have specific intructions in user manual to avoid covering the back. N1 does not have 3G issues.. it's t-mobile

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I believe the issues are with the radio being at the bottom, so the signal dropping by hand covering the bottom would affect it the same way.
Well, the Incredible has no bloatware to be found (see the videos on YouTube, particularly the ones by "jon4lakers"). The device is completely untouched, especially in comparison to AT&T's Backflip.
I think CDMA phones can not be transferred from Sprint to Verizon. Someone correct me if that's wrong, but I've never heard of that happening.
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You are correct, CDMA phones cannot be transferred between Sprint and Verizon

arkavat said:
It's not too complicated...
Neither verizon..nor HTC would like for N1 to directly compete with their new phone. Google also has mentioned many times that N1 is not a competition to other android phones. they don't want to upset their partners.
Verizon just launched incredible, which is almost the same as nexus one. Verizon can change the name of incredible to match their droid branding.. which is not possbile with nexus one
further, incredible is verizon phone and they get all the profit from it.. not google. when I was talking with t-mobile they told me that T-Mobile has no profit or financial agreement with google.. infact the subsidy on the phone is by google and not t-mobile.
Again.. i can't stress more..but all phones have problems when back is covered. All phones have specific intructions in user manual to avoid covering the back. N1 does not have 3G issues.. it's t-mobile
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I disagree. I see 0 downsides from having both the N1 and the Incredible available.
- The phone market in both cases is HTC, so they don't care.
- The carrier will be Verizon in both cases, so they don't care.
The only difference is that someone who has a strong preference for the N1 (standard OS, the looks, or otherwise), can get it.
A Verizon N1 will only bring in MORE customers to Verizon and HTC; there's no way it could affect either of them negatively.

I don't get it.
Beyond not trying to screw their partnership with HTC by having both the Incredible and Nexus One on Verizon at the same time this doesn't make much sense. GSM is the way to go for an open platform anyway. It's a lot easier to just switch out the SIM. No need to contact Verizon or Sprint to let them know which phone you're running.

There is overhead such as the per device training on support, stocking, advertising, that come with any handset. On cdma you do not get the advantages of having a sim and on verizon you already have another phone that is very similar but superior in some respects. Most importantly to the average user who does not know about and will never do many of the things that we would call advantages with the nexus one the things like 8 megapixel camera loom larger. It would be my guess that verizon looked at the number of expected sales versus the cost of carrying the handset and decided it didnt pencil out, simple as that. One thing for certain, it always comes down to the money.

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There is overhead such as the per device training on support, stocking, advertising, that come with any handset. On cdma you do not get the advantages of having a sim and on verizon you already have another phone that is very similar but superior in some respects. Most importantly to the average user who does not know about and will never do many of the things that we would call advantages with the nexus one the things like 8 megapixel camera loom larger. It would be my guess that verizon looked at the number of expected sales versus the cost of carrying the handset and decided it didnt pencil out, simple as that. One thing for certain, it always comes down to the money.
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Very well said.
Paul,
Verizon and HTC are both together in incredible. Verizon has invested in that phone. They want it to sell more than Nexus One.
Google makes lot of money from N1... they released the revenue this quarter... and none of that went to T-Mobile.

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Google makes lot of money from N1... they released the revenue this quarter... and none of that went to T-Mobile.
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Can you provide a link for this?
I have never seen Google or T-Mobile say anything official about how the profits from the phone are distributed. (And I doubt they would do something like this, as companies usually do not.)

Actually, the article didn't say the Nexus One for Verizon was dead. It just suggested buying the Incredible, similar to how they pointed people to the Droid previously in the "can't wait" link. The AT&T N1 came from nowhere.
Paul, you may be right, but I'd wait for further clarification on this before I'd pronounce the VZ-N1 dead.
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I disagree. I see 0 downsides from having both the N1 and the Incredible available.
- The phone market in both cases is HTC, so they don't care.
- The carrier will be Verizon in both cases, so they don't care.
The only difference is that someone who has a strong preference for the N1 (standard OS, the looks, or otherwise), can get it.
A Verizon N1 will only bring in MORE customers to Verizon and HTC; there's no way it could affect either of them negatively.
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I agree with this. Further, I would think that having a DEV phone on Verizon would be hugely important to Google. Until the Incredible/Desires are rooted, there is no DEV equivalent to the N1.
Like AT&T, Verizon doesn't have to support it to allow it to connect.

If this development is true its things like this make me more and more mad at the so called "premium" companies like Verizon. Always putting restrictions on what their customers can do instead of giving them the options they want.
Isnt that what people hate Apple for too?

krabman is right. you have 2 similar products, verizon backs the incredible though. they must have sat down and crunched numbers out and figured making a cdma verizon n1 wont be worth it vs its projected sales.

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I think CDMA phones can not be transferred from Sprint to Verizon. Someone correct me if that's wrong, but I've never heard of that happening.
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It has been done before with older phones. However, I'm not to sure about the current smart phones.

Well ****. The Incredible's hardware is impressive, but it is looking to be one closed POS like every other recent HTC phone. It'll also probably have the ridiculous memory protection scheme of HTC that prevents writing to the system partition. Sounds like the deal between Google and Verizon fell through, because there's definitely code in AOSP for the CDMA mahimahi. The problem is that Verizon can decide whatever comes in or out of their network and they are likely none too pleased with Google's new business model.
No fastboot oem unlock = ABSOLUTELY the wrong direction for Android, do not like.

Maybe the outdated TouchPad 2000 that the N1 is using?

Looks like Sprint cancelled the N1 as well...

Jesus, I already have my T-Mobile version and it doesn't hurt me but I really don't like Sprint (and Verizon) giving hopeful N1 customers the finger.
Its not that they just said no to subsidizing the phone... its that since they work off a CDMA network (non sim cards) they will just block the phone entirely off their network. Even if you had a Sprint compatible version and called them up to activate it they would tell you no. Greedy SOB's.
I wanted the N1 to become a smartphone standard across all 4 carriers so that Google would continue to produce it for a LONG time and come out with subsequent versions over time. But with just two carriers supporting it I am scared Google might abandon it long term due to low sales.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/sprint-cans-nexus-one-in-favor-of-evo-4g/

Doesn't matter to you or me. We've got one of 2 current gen standard bearers (other being the Milestone/Droid) and ours doesn't have to go through a carrier to get OS updates.
All the apps will be built with us in mind, so fewer bugs and possibly more apps. We're basically Android Dev Phone 3. Nothing wrong with that at all. This is a loss for Sprint customers only, and the size of that loss is debatable.

Sucks to be a sprint customer. Will the EVO be better than the Nexus One? On paper, yes.. however that has yet to be seen. Most (or some) of us thought the N1 would be overshadowed by the Droid Incredible but that wasn't the case at all.
EVO vs Nexus One .... coming soon.

I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?

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I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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Good question. If it was Google, I think they bailed just before the vindication of the N1. I am reading about perceived "issues" with the Incredible and Desire similar to those on the N1 regarding 3g coverage. The N1 is a damn fine phone, and Verizon and Sprint users are missing out on an absolute gem with a better forward path than anything else in the hardware queue.

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I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
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Its DEF Sprint's and Verizon's fault the phone was cancelled. Google could easily put in a different radio (like they did with the ATT version) but Sprint and Verizon can just refuse to activate the phone on their network like they did. ATT and TMo didn't have a choice since they use sim cards. Sprint and Verizon are evil companies that force their customers into more expensive options instead of giving them choices

Same reason the verizon deal fell through. both spring and verizon are very controlled networks. Googles wants to essentially turn the cell phone system into an europe-esque system where phones and service are seperate entities.
Each nexus phone has to be programs for verizon or sprint. They probably couldn't come to terms with an appropriate price and management. They'd have to have the phones programmed before being shipped out, one more step and one more cost.
Then you have the headaches of pushing out updates. We saw how long it took Droid to get the 2.1 update. If you want to update a sprint android phone you have to take it to a retail store to do it!

thats a damn shame

sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
btw, i love my nexus one. i can see why they would worry, lol. incredible is a nice phone, but the chick i'm hanging out with just got one, i played with it, and i prefer my N1, tbh
have to get a sprint phone for clinics though this june, so hoping the evo gets out early june phone n1, but evo for hanging out with and playing

down with verizon and sprint they suck. Everytime I saw a sprint phone on that TV show, heroes I thought.... ugh, fags

timothydonohue said:
sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales.
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If Sprint or Verizon doesn't want to subsidize the N1 because they want to push their own phone that's fine. But blocking an unlocked N1 from using their network just for the sake of being ****'s and forcing people into more expensive options? That's just bullsh*t and shouldn't be tolerated
Just because customers getting screwed happens in American business doesn't make it acceptable...

ap3604 said:
If Sprint or Verizon doesn't want to subsidize the N1 because they want to push their own phone that's fine. But blocking an unlocked N1 from using their network just for the sake of being ****'s and forcing people into more expensive options? That's just bullsh*t and shouldn't be tolerated
Just because customers getting screwed happens in American business doesn't make it acceptable...
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well, i don't want to get too far off topic, because this is all just speculation. however, now htc doesn't have to worry about manufacturing a cdma version at all, so it saves everyone a lot of hassle

timothydonohue said:
sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
btw, i love my nexus one. i can see why they would worry, lol. incredible is a nice phone, but the chick i'm hanging out with just got one, i played with it, and i prefer my N1, tbh
have to get a sprint phone for clinics though this june, so hoping the evo gets out early june phone n1, but evo for hanging out with and playing
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Post a pic of the chick!

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neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
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The Samsung Galaxy S would like to have a word with you.

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Jesus, I already have my T-Mobile version and it doesn't hurt me but I really don't like Sprint (and Verizon) giving hopeful N1 customers the finger.
Its not that they just said no to subsidizing the phone... its that since they work off a CDMA network (non sim cards) they will just block the phone entirely off their network. Even if you had a Sprint compatible version and called them up to activate it they would tell you no. Greedy SOB's.
I wanted the N1 to become a smartphone standard across all 4 carriers so that Google would continue to produce it for a LONG time and come out with subsequent versions over time. But with just two carriers supporting it I am scared Google might abandon it long term due to low sales.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/sprint-cans-nexus-one-in-favor-of-evo-4g/
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I partially agree with the OP here, it would be nice to have this across all carriers, but in all honesty, CDMA is just not something that is well supported outside the US. Having GSM is key since it is more the worldwide standard. I don't think not having CDMA is going to really hurt things for this device.

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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
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That makes no sense at all. Even if they didn't subsidize the phone, like AT&T, someone could buy the N1 100% with their own money, and then throw their money at Verizon/Sprint for the voice and data plans. All I could see is a net PLUS of subscribers on their networks. Now if someone reallly wants an N1, they'd be thinking T-Mobile / AT&T; a net LOSS of subscribers for Verizon/Sprint.
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however, now htc doesn't have to worry about manufacturing a cdma version at all, so it saves everyone a lot of hassle
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Except HTC probably already had the CDMA N1, or was FAR into the development of it. It saves hassle for everyone except HTC, who wasted a lot of time and effort.
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A camera with no flash. 'nuff said.

Verizon and Sprint have a much much more closed network than Att or T-mobile. They wan't entire control of what goes on the network.

I don't think anyone would care because sprint customers would probably be waiting for EVO 4g..

personally, i really liked sprint. i had a heck of a plan with them, i got a lot of free upgrades without contract, and i always had a signal, no matter where i went. i did sometimes have to roam, but i had free roaming, so no big whoop.
i only switched over to tmo for the N1

Moving from Sprint (HTC Evo 4G) to Verizon (Motorola Droid Razr Maxx)

I've been with Sprint for over 10 years, the last 2 of which I've had an HTC Evo 4G (rooted). I'm looking to switch over to Verizon in the next week or so and I'm leaning towards the Motorola Droid Razr Maxx (unless someone has a better suggestion for a top-of-the-line Android offering). I'm looking for some advice/suggestions on how to make the switch - I have Titanium Backups for all of my apps - is it possible to restore these on the Droid Razr Maxx if I root this too? Also, I'm very used to HTC Sense on the Evo 4G - how will this impact the switchover, and is it possible to flash a Sense ROM on this new Verizon phone? Sorry if any of these questions are dumb, I've been stuck in the Sprint world for so long, I don't know what's going on outside of it. Just looking for some tips from people who've made the switch.
Thanks for any help in advance!

I would suggest the Samsung Galaxy S3 as a better phone. You'll find a lot more rom's for it as well, in fact there's already a Sense port for the international version of the S3.
Do you use Google Voice? That will be a big change as there's no native integration like with Sprint. Your apps should restore just fine.

i would also suggest the gs3 or something that is closer to the evo lte (im still a little bit of an htc fanboy tho i do admit im waiting on a gs3 to come my way). if you do use voice integration verizon doesnt have (and i dont think they will at least not with out some market influence of lots of people using it, the only other carrier rumored to be getting it is att) but if not then no biggie for ya

Motorola Droid Razr Maxx screen is ugly...THe evo 4g original has better picture quality IMO...However, Verizon network smokes SPrint anyday..

Thanks, I've heard of both the Samsung Galaxy S3 and the Motorola Droid Razr HD as upcoming Verizon smartphones, potentially worth waiting for. However, release dates for both haven't been released yet, correct? I need a new phone/contract within the next two weeks, so I don't know if these will be an option for me.

want to use my htc evo in pakistan on a network
can any one tell me how can i use my cellphone on my country,s network ??thr r only 2 cdma network connection available in my country what will i need ???

dajoip I would recommend you go play with it in person...my bro in law has the moto razor max. The screen is just ugly when compared to the smooth colorful screen of the EVO...I would def wait or just get the samsung its screen is a lot nice looking.

I'd be willing to wait, if I had a better idea of when either of these phones were going to be released...are there any indications? I checked out the Maxx last night, and while I love the idea of it's ridiculous battery, I wasn't all that excited about the phone itself...

I just spoke with a Verizon rep, they told me it was confirmed that the Samsung Galaxy S3 would be shipping on July 10th.

You see the droid incredible 4g? That is much better then the razor. Much better screen as the maxx has an ugly screen Imo. The battery is not as good as the maxx but it's really good. Sense 4.0 too.

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You see the droid incredible 4g? That is much better then the razor. Much better screen as the maxx has an ugly screen Imo. The battery is not as good as the maxx but it's really good. Sense 4.0 too.
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What makes it much better than the Maxx? I don't see too many negatives with the Maxx, and if it truly has double the battery, I think that's a huge positive...coming from the Evo for the last two years (and that being HTC), I'm skeptical of a smartphone with that small of a battery now - the battery life on it was absolutely atrocious! I'm actually hoping to wait for the Droid Razr HD to be announced/released.

dajoip said:
I've been with Sprint for over 10 years, the last 2 of which I've had an HTC Evo 4G (rooted). I'm looking to switch over to Verizon in the next week or so and I'm leaning towards the Motorola Droid Razr Maxx (unless someone has a better suggestion for a top-of-the-line Android offering). I'm looking for some advice/suggestions on how to make the switch - I have Titanium Backups for all of my apps - is it possible to restore these on the Droid Razr Maxx if I root this too? Also, I'm very used to HTC Sense on the Evo 4G - how will this impact the switchover, and is it possible to flash a Sense ROM on this new Verizon phone? Sorry if any of these questions are dumb, I've been stuck in the Sprint world for so long, I don't know what's going on outside of it. Just looking for some tips from people who've made the switch.
Thanks for any help in advance!
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I've thought about going to Verizon but there phone selection is very sparse. They also recently jack-up their prices on smart-phone contracts.

It's not necessarily "jacked up" - I'll be on a family plan and it's actually the same price with their new prices but we'll have more minutes/data with the new structure.

Verizon is accepting pre-orders of the Samsung Galaxy S3, however they are not carrying it in store as of yet. Pricing I think is $199 for 16GB and $250 for 32GB. You can look up videos of the GS3 to see if you like it. If I had to choose, I would go with it as it is the latest phone they are offering. If anything, if you don't like it (it does look like its a huge phone), just return it within the return window. Or you could keep it until something else comes along, sell it and use the money towards purchasing whatever else comes out.

Or you could wait for the HTC Phablet that its supposed to come out for Verizon.
"Rumors" Don't know how solid that is.
My wife has the Razr Maxx and doesn't have any complaints other then not having ICS 4.0 yet, she charges the phone every 2 days no need for extended battery's.

Motorola + VZW + root = FAIL, the photon on sprint is a pain in the ass to unlock and sprint isn't as strict as VZW with locking bootloaders. Every device on VZW with the exception of the galaxy nexus is a pain to root. VZW didn't get a gs2 model because Samsung refused to lock up the bootloader and VZW doesn't want people rooting their devices. The only reason the nexus isn't locked up tight is because of its reputation as a developers device, and the fact Google made them sign an agreement to get the rights to have the nexus exclusively for a few months before it was released on other US carriers. Sure VZW has fast speeds, they also have capped data and prices that should be considered robbery, they might as well make you pay your bill at gunpoint. Sure, it looks comparable when you're shopping around, until you get your bill and the extra $50-80 in fees and taxes are added in. My mom is on VZW with a family plan, 4 lines, no smartphones, no data plan, unlimited minutes and text and her bill is over $300 a month. It was just around $200 when she was shopping around then after they added $85 in taxes, surcharges and fees it went up to just over $300 and their customer service is outright ****, they don't give a damn about the customers, just the customers money. They will tell you whatever they think you want to hear to get you to sign up, even if it is an outright, bold faced lie.
We are legion, for we are many.

dajoip said:
It's not necessarily "jacked up" - I'll be on a family plan and it's actually the same price with their new prices but we'll have more minutes/data with the new structure.
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actually, you will be sharing less data across numerous devices while paying a monthly access charge per device. Look very closely at the contracts and pricing, it is not a good deal and a trend I hope is not followed by other carriers.

alaman68 said:
actually, you will be sharing less data across numerous devices while paying a monthly access charge per device. Look very closely at the contracts and pricing, it is not a good deal and a trend I hope is not followed by other carriers.
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Um, well I'm glad you seem to know more about my situation than I do, but I actually have looked through it, I know how much data will be shared within the plan (which is more), and I already have a quoted price and it's comparable to what we'd pay within the old structure.
I didn't ask the question in this thread to be told what a bad idea Verizon is and that I'm going to be ripped off, since I know this is an Evo and Sprint forum...I was just hoping for some helpful information about potential compatibility between rooted phones across different networks.

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Um, well I'm glad you seem to know more about my situation than I do, but I actually have looked through it, I know how much data will be shared within the plan (which is more), and I already have a quoted price and it's comparable to what we'd pay within the old structure.
I didn't ask the question in this thread to be told what a bad idea Verizon is and that I'm going to be ripped off, since I know this is an Evo and Sprint forum...I was just hoping for some helpful information about potential compatibility between rooted phones across different networks.
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Read up on unlocking bootloaders for motor and HTC a big red. Your best bet is Sammy.
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