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Hi there,
I have taken lots of useful information from this forum and I must say it is definitely the best forum for wizards in the net!
Now my question:
I am going on vacation on Saturday I have a mobile 250 GB HDD which stores all my music collection. I do not want to take my laptop with me. Is there a way to transfer my music from the mobile HDD to the miniSD card in my Wizard without using the laptop? Can the Resco Explorer and a USB hub help me with that? ANY useful suggestion welcome.
Thanks in advance!
Rgds
Lars
nope...
Sorry, it's not gonna happen. USB works on a client - master relationship and the HD and Wizard are both clients. Without a device to work as a master (eg a computer, some PMPs) between them, no communication can take place.
Servus
what is a PMP?
what is a PMP?
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PMP stands for Portable Media Player. It would be cool though if there would be software available to give the wizard USB Host controller support. Don't know if that is difficult to do.
Cheers,
Shah
Yeah, to be honest I'm pretty surprised that this can't be done; is there some fundamental reason why its not been done?
Also, can I print stuff off my device yet? I know I can't plug a printer in, but can i print to a bluetooth printer?
you can print via IR to HP printers, that I know.
Is there no workaround to connect to a mobile HDD? I can control my PC with my Wizard but I can not access a mobile HDD???
How about emulating a USB Host controller? Any ideas?
I believe you actually need a piece of hardware for a device to act as a USB controller, not just software.
What peice of hardware would that be?
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What peice of hardware would that be?
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I knew that question was going to come up with my phrasing.
"Piece of hardware" here refers to an actual chip, like those found on your PC motherboards to act as a USB controller. In short, there is absolutely nothing that you can buy and plug into a Wizard to have it act as a controller. There is a CompactFlash USB controller somewhere, but I heard it's rather unreliable and slow. Plus, it's CF only, and we don't have a CF slot
We do have a CF slot but we just don't show it anybody
I'm sure if you took a mini SD to micro SD conerter, a soldering iron and some pieces of wire you could wire up a compact flash jobby. You could probably take the compact flash plug thing to bits and re-weire it to a mini SD one.
I rather carry my laptop LOL.
Thanks anyway.
Does any1 who has it knows if Xperia supports USH hub or mass storage?
If you connect an external USB stick or card reader, the Xperia is able to read from it?
I have asked on developer's forum, but no one was able to answer, so i thjought any1 who has it can try an tell me.
Thanx!
you can choose btw. mass storage or active sync in the settings.
DocMAX said:
you can choose btw. mass storage or active sync in the settings.
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I don't think that's what he means.... He wants to know if you can hookup an external card reader!
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you can choose btw. mass storage or active sync in the settings.
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The question was if it could read from a mass storage device or a USB stick, not the opposite.
Afaik the USB port has no host mode, but on many devices today the hardware supports changing from slave to host mode. If so, it has to be some kind of firmware hack to do it.
Btw, the mass storage setting is superior to the ActiveSync mode in bitrate when transfering large files, like music and movies.
The truth is that MSM7200A natively supports "USB on the go", but if SE utilizes it, is another matter. Other HTC devices with the similar Qualcomm chip don't support it.
I wonder if this is a hardware or software issue (just like TV-out only difference being that on HTC devices it is enaled).
I have already check it with usb host cable from Toshiba G900 but nothings happend :-( Maybe it's just a metter of proper drivers or maybe it's just not implemented.
use wmStorage
http://deblor-freewaresmartphone.blogspot.com/2007/12/wmstorage-v18.html
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Does this work with WM 6.1. Someone should test anyway.
(I hate it that I am still waiting for mine for over 2 weeks)
I was somehow misundestood.
Let's say i'm out of the office whitout the notebook. I meet with a friend and i want to give him some files on a usb stick. I connect the stick to the Xperia, write the files from Xperia memory/email/whatever to the USB stick. Then we go an drink beer
Is that scenario possible?
I'm waiting for my Xperia to arrive (they say about 25th of nov.), but i want to know. I will test.
Maybe someone will write an app that can do that until i got my Xperia
I'm pretty sure that USB host has to be enabled in firmware not software. I read in a few places recently that practically all the chips include USB host these days, but many manufacturers do not utilise the ability. I think it's likely that they'll add USB host as a killer feature in Xperia X2 to try to entice us to upgrade.
memtronic said:
I was somehow misundestood.
Let's say i'm out of the office whitout the notebook. I meet with a friend and i want to give him some files on a usb stick. I connect the stick to the Xperia, write the files from Xperia memory/email/whatever to the USB stick. Then we go an drink beer
Is that scenario possible?
I'm waiting for my Xperia to arrive (they say about 25th of nov.), but i want to know. I will test.
Maybe someone will write an app that can do that until i got my Xperia
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That's exactly what USB on the go is. If the USB stack on a device is hardware implemented it can't be done. Of course as I said that Qualcomm SoC supports it but we don't know if HTC,SE utilizes it. Also, we don't know if it is a driver or software issue.
I posted this question in the main Android Section in error but, I am running OS X 10.5 (Leopard) on a MacBook Air and I can't get it to read my Epic. The Epic will give me the prompt to mount as a storage device but my Mac won't see it. It also fails to see it with adb and the Epic in Dev mode.
Has anyone else with a Mac had this problem? If not any data on the version/hardware your running would be greatly appreciated to narrow down this problem.
Keep posting this but if it helps...
I had the same issue. I used a non-powered usb hub and now it works. Not the best solution but at least it's working.
i'm using a macbook pro (not air like yours) and i have two usb ports (one on the right and the other on the left). For some reason, only the right usb will work with my epic, the left side wont. i'm not sure how many usbs are on the air but try using different usb ports.
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i'm using a macbook pro (not air like yours) and i have two usb ports (one on the right and the other on the left). For some reason, only the right usb will work with my epic, the left side wont. i'm not sure how many usbs are on the air but try using different usb ports.
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MacBook Air only has 1 measly USB port, so he might want to try a powered USB hub if that port is not supplying enough juice.
Yeah, its not OSX, its a power issue. Works fine on my Regular Unibody Macbook :/ with 10.6. People with Macbook Air and MacbookPro's are having issues.
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Yeah, its not OSX, its a power issue. Works fine on my Regular Unibody Macbook :/ with 10.6. People with Macbook Air and MacbookPro's are having issues.
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So would the solution be to use a powered USB hub? A poster above said that using a non-powered USB hub did the trick for him.
I had the same exact problem with my evo. A software called NTFS for mac by Paragon fixed it for me (would post a link but don't know if it's allowed, google is your friend). It costs 20.00 but you can use the trial for free for a while and it works great. Now I can also copy and delete files from NTFS formatted external hard drives and flash drives, plus my android powered phone.
did you guys try the usb debugging mode , it worked in mine !!!
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I had the same exact problem with my evo. A software called NTFS for mac by Paragon fixed it for me (would post a link but don't know if it's allowed, google is your friend). It costs 20.00 but you can use the trial for free for a while and it works great. Now I can also copy and delete files from NTFS formatted external hard drives and flash drives, plus my android powered phone.
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I find that odd because Android does not generally use the NTFS file format at it is a Windows file format. Android (and or Linux in general) usually go for FAT and or Ext2/3.
I have Paragon's NTFS for Mac on my Mac simply because i dabble with some NTFS formatted volumes but have never encountered an Android device using NTFS before.
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did you guys try the usb debugging mode , it worked in mine !!!
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Yes, that was the first thing I tried and I always have it enabled when I connect my Epic to my MBP.
I might be wrong about being NTFS. I just know that worked for me. I couldn't even see my evo in my devices until I installed that.
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I find that odd because Android does not generally use the NTFS file format at it is a Windows file format. Android (and or Linux in general) usually go for FAT and or Ext2/3.
I have Paragon's NTFS for Mac on my Mac simply because i dabble with some NTFS formatted volumes but have never encountered an Android device using NTFS before.
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Interesting. If I use my older MacBook Pro (2009 model), it works when directly connected but does not work through my cinema display usb port.
Thank you everyone for your help. Turns out it's a power issue on the USB port, used a powered hub and came right up. I also tried the NTPS idea but that didn't do anything for me.
i havent been able to connect either i just put the sd card in the adapter and plug it straight into my mbp
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i havent been able to connect either i just put the sd card in the adapter and plug it straight into my mbp
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That's what I had to resort to. I would assume that a Mac Mini with 5 usb ports would be sufficient enough to juice it but no dice. I have a powered hub laying around somewhere. Will give that a try and see wht gives.
Powered Hub is the trick
Had no success using USB ports on the MacBook Pro until I used a powered hub. Then I found:
1. With USB Debug on, a hinky message about the network appears. Ignore that and the phone will mount.
2. With USB Debug off, no message appears and the phone mounts.
With USB Debug off, I selected 'mass storage' and did not need to click on the USB notification to mount the phone. That's weird because you can also mount the phone through the USB notification. Not sure if one way is better than the other, but I'll stick with just the 'mass storage' option for now.
Mine doesn't mount and i'm in no mood to clutter my desktop with a hub when my Mac Mini already has 5 USB ports. So i said eff it and use an app called WebSharing to mount my Epic as a wifi volume and access from web browser. Very nice, wifi upload speeds are great. This work around suits me somewhat.
I know that 3.1 added support for a broader spectrum of USB devices, and I thought it would be interesting to compile a list of what works and doesn't work!
So far, I've tried:
ACER LIQUID E - Basically just charges the phone and allows for tethering (wish I could mount it) **UPDATE** After rooting and installing busybox and drive mount, Liquid E is able to mount! (Thanks, entropy)
HP WIRELESS MINI KEYBOARD (Model #U10G) - Works flawlessly! Prior to the update, only the keyboard worked, but now the mouse works too, as expected!
SONY CYBERSHOT (Model #DSC-W55) - At first the Iconia didn't detect it, but after I went into the camera menu and changed USB connect mode from "auto" to "mass storage" and plugged it back into the tablet, the Gallery app opened automatically and the pics from the camera magically appeared! Woohoo!
LOGITECH ATTACK 3 JOYSTICK - Not too useful, but it works! Basically it works as a glorified mouse, scrolling up/down/left/right. Pretty basic for now, but perhaps a good flight simulator will come out in the future?
SAMSUNG STORY STATION 1 TB HARD DRIVE - My biggest disappointment... I know there are workarounds to get external drives to work, but I was hoping 3.1 would provide a fix for this. It is formatted FAT32, so I'm not sure what the problem is, but my Iconia isn't picking it up **UPDATE** After rooting and installing busybox and drive mount, Story Station is able to mount! (Thanks, entropy)
I can confirm the iphone 3gs will charge and you can import photos/movies taken on the camera.
I have a cannon camera at home. I know they have a strange interface which always requires me to load a separate driver in windows. I will test it later and let you know.
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SAMSUNG STORY STATION 1 TB HARD DRIVE - My biggest disappointment... I know there are workarounds to get external drives to work, but I was hoping 3.1 would provide a fix for this. It is formatted FAT32, so I'm not sure what the problem is, but my Iconia isn't picking it up
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Assuming you are rooted - try "drive mount" (free from market) - solved all my USB storage device problems.
entropy.of.avarice said:
Assuming you are rooted - try "drive mount" (free from market) - solved all my USB storage device problems.
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Thanks! I'll keep that in mind. I'm not currently rooted, but I'll likely take that plunge soon. I was hoping 3.1 would cure that in the stock software, but we can't always get what we want
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I can confirm the iphone 3gs will charge and you can import photos/movies taken on the camera.
I have a cannon camera at home. I know they have a strange interface which always requires me to load a separate driver in windows. I will test it later and let you know.
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How ironic that an iProduct will work as a peripheral, but not another Acer product!
*edit* Just tested my old BLACKBERRY CURVE 8310 and it mounts no problem! Wtf?
Thanks for the info!
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Thanks! I'll keep that in mind. I'm not currently rooted, but I'll likely take that plunge soon. I was hoping 3.1 would cure that in the stock software, but we can't always get what we want
Thanks for the info!
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Rooting stock 3.1 takes about ten seconds - i have successfully ran a Logitech laser mouse, a Saitek Eclipse 2 keyboard, a old crappy external 60gb USB hdd, and a 16gb flash stick all at once
Does a non powered usb hub work??
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Does a non powered usb hub work??
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Using a non powered hub as I type - 4 devices connected, including a sweet keyboard with led back lighting (saitek eclipse 2) - all 4 devices work even if I am not connected to power.
Is there an * easy * way to make this tab use huwaei dongle for internet...???
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Is there an easy way to make this tab use huwaei dongle for internet...???
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No idea - would probably involve a rooted device and a custom rom - head to the dev section.
Logitech mx510 and mx518 mice confirmed.
Xbox 360 wired controller works but found no games that use it and it is very clunky for nav'ing the UI in general.
Wacom Bamboo powers but nothing functions.
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Is there a safe way of removing these usb devices without having to power down?
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Is there a safe way of removing these usb devices without having to power down?
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A "safe" way? I'm pretty sure it won't explode if you just unplug them.
In all seriousness, you should be able to just unplug them without losing data. At least I always have.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason you have to "eject" removable media from windows is because windows has some sort of drive caching to speed things up. This means that just because you have copied a file to your usb drive, doesn't mean the data has actually been written right away.
Furthermore, Windows also locks out files that are in use by an active application. As such, windows makes you "eject" the media in order to give the OS a chance to check to see if any of the files are still in use, to avoid the application having a brain fart and crashing. Also, if an application is in the process of writing to a file and you yank out the drive, the file could become corrupt.
I think both scenarios are not likely to occur on an Android tablet, mainly because its based on a real operating system not designed to treat you like an idiot. Just make sure none of the data is being used by any open apps and you should be fine.
That being said, always make sure to keep backups.
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Anyone able to use an Xbox 360 controller. I have a wireless with PC USB dongle, would like to use it if I possible.
Just want to say i can see my files in my x10 mounting it with drive mount and view it with file expert
entropy.of.avarice said:
Rooting stock 3.1 takes about ten seconds - i have successfully ran a Logitech laser mouse, a Saitek Eclipse 2 keyboard, a old crappy external 60gb USB hdd, and a 16gb flash stick all at once
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Thanks! After rooting, installing busybox, and Drive mount, I now am able to mount my phone and external hard drive!
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Thanks! After rooting, installing busybox, and Drive mount, I now am able to mount my phone and external hard drive!
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Yay! Glad it worked for you. Enjoy!
Would be nice if could use a hub to run game controllers (USB arcade stick as example), thumbdrives and USB drives at same time.
Also nice if the device had built in support for NTFS.
Even better if the power line to the USB port could power the hub like a laptop, but that is probably being too greedy.
Update: I can find nothing that says it will or will not. I am leaning toward will, since makes not sense not to- in theory.
It should support USB hub, you can buy a hub that accept wall adaptor for extra power. As for NTFS not likely official support due to being a Microsoft propriety format, but there can be apps or modules to install that enable it, same as Android phones (Stick Mount + NTFS Mounter).
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I think USB support is build into Android 4 and later. So if you have a power USB hub, you'll be fine. The rest, is just want does Android support or Ouya have build in. I think controllers, keyboards, and mouses will be fine. They may not support all keys or functions, but they'll work for the basic functions.
I just can't say about NTFS support. I think more than likely it may so that larger files can be stored and used for games. It'll possible we could have large and long games available.
The good news, we'll find out in about a month's time.
USB hub would be helpful, my only thought is for me the common user the only thing I might use it for would be an external HDD just for additional game storage space. I suppose though for the ability to also have a keyboard and mouse or other components connected we would then need a hub.
USB NTFS Support? Com on now, almost everything supports NTFS and has at least a USB. Not to mention this being a "Console" type.
It will certainly not support NTFS out of the box, NTFS is a proprietary Microsoft format.
There might be kernel or use Stock Mount + NTFS Mounter.
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what about controller from an usual computer? are they working too?
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USB NTFS Support? Com on now, almost everything supports NTFS and has at least a USB. Not to mention this being a "Console" type.
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what about controller from an usual computer? are they working too?
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I think it should, I don't see why not, though it might not work fully with some controller, especially analog and touch buttons, but I can't be sure. Knowing Ouya designed this for gaming they will probably make sure it work worth variety of controllers.
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Samsung and HTC pay a royalty fee of about $10-$15 to Microsoft for every Android phone they sell, yet they still don't support NTFS out of the box.
I am wondering if any controller will work besides their own. They are already apparently locking out the Play store and will lock out the Ouya store for rooted devices. Seems logical they would find a way to allow only their $50 controllers to work, since more expensive than most other options. If not, most people will buy cheaper options.
Perhaps they will allow keyboard map type devices and only analog control with their controllers. Kind of hard to lock all controllers out, unless they also do not allow keyboards.
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I am wondering if any controller will work besides their own. They are already apparently locking out the Play store and will lock out the Ouya store for rooted devices. Seems logical they would find a way to allow only their $50 controllers to work, since more expensive than most other options. If not, most people will buy cheaper options.
Perhaps they will allow keyboard map type devices and only analog control with their controllers. Kind of hard to lock all controllers out, unless they also do not allow keyboards.
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Bluetooth controllers should work just fine. They just won't have all of the features that the OUYA controller will have.
Controller Specs:
Two analog joysticks, each with their own “button” (i.e. L3 + R3)
A D-Pad
Four face buttons (labeled O, U, Y, and A)
Two digital shoulder buttons (L1 + R1)
Two analog triggers (L2 + R2)
A menu button (to open the OUYA menu at any time during a game)
A touchpad (to mimic mouse/touch controls or to be used in games)
Player LED indicators (so you know which player a connected controller is set to)
Don't expect the two in red to be on aftermarket controllers for quite some time (and even if they do have a "menu" button, it likely won't work until someone makes an app for mapping).
The touchpad will make a functional difference if you're playing a game that requires touch input if you're using an aftermarket controller. You'll likely become rather stuck if it requires touch input.
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USB NTFS Support? Com on now, almost everything supports NTFS and has at least a USB. Not to mention this being a "Console" type.
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The PS3 does not support NTFS. Even Microsoft's own Xbox 360 does not support NTFS. If the Ouya supported NTFS it would be the first console to do so.
So would a USB hub allow me to connect multiple N64 USB or multiple SNES USB controllers to the console? If not, what would I need to do this? Thanks
It should as long as there are modules that allow those controllers to work correctly.
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They are already apparently locking out the Play store and will lock out the Ouya store for rooted devices.
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Well that's what we have the wonderful people of XDA for! :victory: :laugh:
Just my two cents... I have several droids that I've rooted and used Stick Mount with, and they all play very nicely with NTFS formatted USB drives. I also use a nifty little USB hub that has a plain jane USB plug on one side of it and a micro-USB plug on the other end... it works with either end (OTG adapter for USB A) and I haven't had any trouble with it on any of my devices. One other item of possible interest is the variety of common devices that Android will support with little or no extra effort from the folks at OUYA; I have a G-Box Midnight, which has a very crude firmware, based on ICS, and I keep a USB Mouse, USB Keyboard and Microsoft USB WebCam plugged in at all times, and they all worked with zero configuration on my part (the webcam captures 1080p video and even has a microphone built-in and that works too). Before I bought the webcam, I did some reading to make sure that my idea for it would bear fruit, and what I gathered was that a "universal" webcam standard had been developed and that most big manufacturers now conform to it for driverless functionality, along with Windows, MAC and Linux. My experience has been consistent with that explanation, so I am anticipating that my OUYA will be equally kind to these USB devices.
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One other thought that just struck me... an NTFS file system (at one point in its development) was the only FS that supported persistent data for an Android x86 system installation. At the time, you were stuck operating as a LiveCD if you formatted ext3 or ext4. It's been a while since I fooled around with that, so I have no idea where they're at with that now, but it struck me as odd that I would have to format NTFS for a Linux-based OS installation, instead of ext(x), although I've also used Linux on NTFS partitions in other situations in the past. At any rate, I'm more surprised now when NTFS ISN'T supported than when it is. I could be completely wrong this time.
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Are modules on the software side? Do you mean modules that allow the controllers to work with an emulator, or is the module for telling the ouya that multiple devices are connected to the one USB port? Thanks again
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The PS3 does not support NTFS. Even Microsoft's own Xbox 360 does not support NTFS. If the Ouya supported NTFS it would be the first console to do so.
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see i find this weird since i have used ntfs formatted hard drives on the 360 and they worked just fine, just plugged in and was good to go. the console did say it wasnt supported but still let me use it. so i dont really understand why it says it and they claim it is unsupported when it clearly has for me on more than one console :/
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raptir said:
The PS3 does not support NTFS. Even Microsoft's own Xbox 360 does not support NTFS. If the Ouya supported NTFS it would be the first console to do so.
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Just my two cents... I have several droids that I've rooted and used Stick Mount with, and they all play very nicely with NTFS formatted USB drives. I also use a nifty little USB hub that has a plain jane USB plug on one side of it and a micro-USB plug on the other end... it works with either end (OTG adapter for USB A) and I haven't had any trouble with it on any of my devices. One other item of possible interest is the variety of common devices that Android will support with little or no extra effort from the folks at OUYA; I have a G-Box Midnight, which has a very crude firmware, based on ICS, and I keep a USB Mouse, USB Keyboard and Microsoft USB WebCam plugged in at all times, and they all worked with zero configuration on my part (the webcam captures 1080p video and even has a microphone built-in and that works too). Before I bought the webcam, I did some reading to make sure that my idea for it would bear fruit, and what I gathered was that a "universal" webcam standard had been developed and that most big manufacturers now conform to it for driverless functionality, along with Windows, MAC and Linux. My experience has been consistent with that explanation, so I am anticipating that my OUYA will be equally kind to these USB devices.
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One other thought that just struck me... an NTFS file system (at one point in its development) was the only FS that supported persistent data for an Android x86 system installation. At the time, you were stuck operating as a LiveCD if you formatted ext3 or ext4. It's been a while since I fooled around with that, so I have no idea where they're at with that now, but it struck me as odd that I would have to format NTFS for a Linux-based OS installation, instead of ext(x), although I've also used Linux on NTFS partitions in other situations in the past. At any rate, I'm more surprised now when NTFS ISN'T supported than when it is. I could be completely wrong this time.
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yeah its been years since i have had issues with ntfs and linux playing well, infact it seems standard to have it out of the box on most flavors. even our cable boxes support it now without a second thought
i remember the days when i need it 2 or 3 libraries in linux to be able to read ntfs, writing was a whole other issue Thank god those days are gone
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see i find this weird since i have used ntfs formatted hard drives on the 360 and they worked just fine, just plugged in and was good to go. the console did say it wasnt supported but still let me use it. so i dont really understand why it says it and they claim it is unsupported when it clearly has for me on more than one console :/
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Well, you're the only person I've seen saying that it works. Googling "xbox360 ntfs" will get you about fifty people saying that NTFS does not work just on the first page.