Hi, I'm replacing my little brother's stolen phone with a vogue.
He wanted Diamond like mine but I don't have that kind of funds at the moment so it will have to do.
I have been looking around like crazy in cooked rom department and found several roms to my likings.
1.) v1.6 WDM's 2D Diamond ROM w/ UC by whosdaman.
2.) NFSFAN's Custom WM6.1 ROMs by NFSFAN.
I was leaning towards these two because I can give my brother a phone that feels likes a diamond without giving the actual diamond. (we love Touch Flo 3D)
From someone who has used these roms,
what are the pros and cons of these roms and what are known bugs?
Recommendations? Are there better roms?
I'm currently using Sprint as carrier and will these roms include all the default sprint program cabs? I only ask this because there are separate releases for different carriers. If I'm wrong, where can I find these cabs? (GPS, Radio, TV etc)
I'm also using Vogue_unlocker_MFG_2.31 to unlock my phone.
Am I missing anything?
Just wanted to cover all my bases here.
Thanks in advance,
Siptang
READ READ READ before you flash! If you look through the ROM contents, you will see what is included in the Sprint ROMs.
I am reading.
Where do you think I'm getting all the info that I posted above??
Hey everybody,
I'm extremely new to the community and have recently found myself the proud parent of a baby T-Mobile Wing. There is so much helpful information on this site, but it is so hard to sort it all out. Right now I am running SPB Shell and am digging on it, yet I crave more. I like the layout of SPB Shell, but would love to be able to take better advantage of touch options (scrolling, contacts, internet, etc). What could be done to get these options? I've read about Open Touch, and there seem to be mixed reviews. Is it possible to still have SPB Shell and a program that offers better use of the touch screen?
Also, what are some applications that you Wing users are fond of? I am using VTouch, Google Maps, and an SNES emulator. Are there other things I should know about? Radio, a pizza maker maybe?
Thanks so much.
I'm still very new here too, but my advice is download everything you can find on this site and try it! The cooks are AMAZING and I'm now doing things with my wing that i never thought was possible.
Download a kitchen and play with it. But only after flashing and playing with all the roms that are available so you know what you want out of a rom.
start here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395793
ronnieglenn said:
Hey everybody,
I'm extremely new to the community and have recently found myself the proud parent of a baby T-Mobile Wing. There is so much helpful information on this site, but it is so hard to sort it all out. Right now I am running SPB Shell and am digging on it, yet I crave more. I like the layout of SPB Shell, but would love to be able to take better advantage of touch options (scrolling, contacts, internet, etc). What could be done to get these options? I've read about Open Touch, and there seem to be mixed reviews. Is it possible to still have SPB Shell and a program that offers better use of the touch screen?
Also, what are some applications that you Wing users are fond of? I am using VTouch, Google Maps, and an SNES emulator. Are there other things I should know about? Radio, a pizza maker maybe?
Thanks so much.
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The best way that I found to learn about my Wing is to screw it up several times and then learn how to fix it. I've made pretty much every mistake you can make with it when it comes to flashing ROMs. Every time I've found a thread on here to save me when I was inches away from throwing it in the trash can.
There's definitely not one overall "best" or "favorite" ROM. Personally I'm a fan of Ivan's JustMe because it has pretty much everything I use so I don't need to install anything on top of what's cooked in, and Just2Clean because, as the name implies, it really IS clean. But you really just need to get several, take them out for test drives (at least a week), and see which one suits you best. I've gotten ROMs before that I thought after a couple of hours were perfect for me, and then a few days later I realized a couple of annoying tiny things that made me reconsider. That's why it's ultimately best to cook your own. As soon as I get brave enough, that's my next step!
I personally don't take as much advantage of the touch screen as I should, so I'm not the best person to advise on that, but you should definitely spend a long time reading just about every post in the ROM review thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395793
The Wing isn't built to support radio natively, but I use Internet radio a lot. www.thestreamcenter.com is the place I usually use. It's good if you know the call letters you're looking for. It was invaluable when I had to work during football games.
As far as a pizza maker goes, I have actually dropped my Wing on a piping hot, gooey pizza before. I do not recommend it. Sometimes I swear I can still smell oregano.
Some essential CABs I use no matter which ROM I'm currently using:
BatteryStatus
Total Commander
TCPMP
WM5torage
Opera Mini
Oxios Hibernate
PIM Backup
Again, though, everyone has their faves (even if they don't use MyFaves!).
Definitely start here though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046
You may find some outdated apps in the links from that thread, but they'll at least hip you to the more commonly-used ones so you can look for the latest versions on your own.
Above all, don't be afraid to ask questions (after making good use of the "Search this Forum" button, of course)! I have posted several questions that I was embarrassed to be asking, but everyone on this site is incredibly knowledgeable and supportive.
**This post was longer then I intended, so I highlighted the important stuff in blue, if you wanna skip past the drivel. **
Since this is my first post, let me just say what an amazing community this seems to be. I've done a bit of lurking over the last couple of weeks, and everyone seems quite friendly and knowledgeable. I, however, am not. Well, knowledgeable that is..
So heres the thing. I have an Alltel Touch 6900, which is now on the Verizon network. Joy. I would really like to give WM6.5 a test drive, but I've learnt that it isn't as simple as just an upgrade. I have no experience unlocking, and have only flashed from 6.0 to 6.1, with official Alltel roms. (funny story, the guy at the Verizon store said I should flash over to a Verizon rom, which I can download from their website, and stick a staple in the antenna plug in the back of the phone to take care of the GPS problems I was having.. Good call, bub. I got a new (read refurbished) 6900 through warranty.) Now this newish phone I have works great. Great signal, amazing Internet speed, and crappy GPS, but good enough for what I use it for.
Sorry, this is getting longer then I had intended. I sometimes get long winded. The big questions are, should I be going with Alltel, or Verizon software/FAQs and Guides on this phone. My gut tells me Alltel, but who knows? Probably one of you guys or gals. The other thing is, I'm paranoid, and poor. I can't afford to replace a bricked phone, unless I trick them into replacing it for free. Also, I'm worried that I won't be able to go back to 6.1 if I hate 6.5 for whatever reason. Are these real fears? Or am I just being stupid?
Guys, I'm really sorry for posting these questions. I've been trying to get through the nearly 1000 pages of posts in several topics, and I'm sure I can do it. Last time I felt like this was when I switched over to custom firmware on my PSP. I even read someone saying this was a lot safer then flashing a PSP in another forum somewhere. But its a lot to take in, especially for a relative smartphone newbie like myself.
I just flashed for my first time...
Verizon 6900 flashed NFSFans 6.5 and love it. I was scared too, but its really not that bad if you read up and just follow the directions on here. 6.5FAQ walks you through it step by step.
And 6.5 is great, very finger friendly, I did add different calendar and keyboards though, but they are cab's and thats pretty safe.
Hope you take the jump. as for your alltel vs VZ questions, I have no clue but someone will guide you though I am sure. Great site..
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The big questions are, should I be going with Alltel, or Verizon software/FAQs and Guides on this phone. My gut tells me Alltel, but who knows? Probably one of you guys or gals. The other thing is, I'm paranoid, and poor. I can't afford to replace a bricked phone, unless I trick them into replacing it for free. Also, I'm worried that I won't be able to go back to 6.1 if I hate 6.5 for whatever reason. Are these real fears? Or am I just being stupid?
I was really impressed with NFSFAN's WinMo 6.5 ROM (latest version). I unlocked my phone, still on Verizon, I did not really need to unlock it in the first place though. Unlocking is fairly easy, I did so when I first flashed to HTC TouchFlo 3D. Great ROM btw.
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I was really impressed with NFSFAN's WinMo 6.5 ROM (latest version). I unlocked my phone, still on Verizon, I did not really need to unlock it in the first place though. Unlocking is fairly easy, I did so when I first flashed to HTC TouchFlo 3D. Great ROM btw.
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Actually, unlocking *is* necessary. WM ROMs are digitally signed, and the phone's bootloader reflects this. Without unlocking, a Verizon phone cannot have a ROM installed that is not signed by Verizon. (At least that's my understanding.) So yeah, you need to unlock your phone. I recommend going here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
That's where I went to unlock mine. Yes, it sounds like a scary process, but it's not that bad. My one recommendation would be to make sure your USB cable is in good shape (ie. not run over all the time by your desk chair, causing a flimsy physical connection.) Other than that, it's pretty fool-proof.
i was wondering who in here has come over to this phone from a blackberry.
likes? dislikes?
i have been reading some on here about the "lag" with the HTC HD2. is this true? all the reviews i read say nothing about it. and i do not like a laggy phone. and disabling Sense makes no "sense" to me...
also, is there alot of customizations that can be done? how about updates? are they common like on a blackberry? will win7 mobile be able to be run on this? hows the battery life compared to the iphone? (that is why i dont have an iphone any more, i cant stand the battery life)
i LOVe the looks of that phone...
Thanks all!
I jummped the Blackberry ship for the HD2 last week.
I wont be able to answer ALL your questions 100%, but I will be able to help.
Lag, If you use your task manager and close the unused programs, then you *shouldnt* have any lag. I am still using the stock phone settings from T-Mo. and I am not seeing any lag at all just by closing the app/programs this way.
Customizing, The phone is still new, and the devs here are working hard to push out new stuff all the time. But the phone is VERY customisable. If your comfy working with DLL and CAB files you can change the layout/colors/buttons/exctra of the dif screanes and apps.
WP7, As of right now.. No. But the devs here are working on it, as well as the Droid os.
While Blackberry has updates offten, it still upto the provider to push em out to the end users, and T-Mo, is the worst at doing so. But you can get all the updates/mods/apps from the devs here.
Batterie life can be awesome, or it can be the bane of your phone. lol. If you keep task manager clean, the batterie will last for wat feels like for ever. I ran both of the Transformer movies from start to credits, played on the internet a bit, and made a few calls, and still had a lot of bat strength left. but if you run a lot of apps in the back ground, and dont keep your task manager clean, you will charge your phone 2x a days.
Over all im loving this phone. I have a ton to learn about it still, but it is a great phone.
My $.02
Wolfee
Thank you so much for your reply. that helped alot.
i just sold 2 of my BB's, so i am looking now at buying one i cant wait
I have to say with my blackberry experience with the one I carry around for work, a Nextel 8350i. being the network admin for the company I work for, and I also work with the BES server software. they can get pretty laggy as well at times. especially when there is alot of background data transfer going on to the BES server.
In the end i prefer my HD2 to blackberry. I consider the BB a good platform for someone who wants something that just works, and arent very technically minded like the people I work with. I can already imagine the issues Id run into trying to introduce the WinMo platform there.
WinMo is good for technical users that like to tweak and customize and can live with or work around the occasional bug, and are able to figure things out for themselves or with the help of a support forum like this
I would never recommend WinMo for someone that requires hand holding with anything technical/computer related. it just becomes too much of a hassle and waste of time for me having to support them.
great post...that makes me feel better to. i feel the same way, i have owned alot of blackberrys and they do lag alot more.
and i am one who LOVES to tinker with things..so i am thinking i might like this better...are there ways to recover if you play TO much and brick your phone?
also i cant seem to find any screen shots of what the sms inbox looks like? was wondering. is it threaded messages?
IF you successfully install HSPL, the chances of really "bricking" your HD2 are pretty low. The worst thing you can do "brick" a TMOUS HD2 is to flash an incompatible Radio (one with ...51... in the identifier string). As long as you stay with T-Mobile compatible Radios/ROMs, you should be fine.
dvigue said:
great post...that makes me feel better to. i feel the same way, i have owned alot of blackberrys and they do lag alot more.
and i am one who LOVES to tinker with things..so i am thinking i might like this better...are there ways to recover if you play TO much and brick your phone?
also i cant seem to find any screen shots of what the sms inbox looks like? was wondering. is it threaded messages?
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Yeah, it has threaded sms messages. And there are almost always ways to recover your phone from bricking it, unless you flash the wrong radio, like he said in the post above. Just don't flash ones with .51 in them and your fine. Odds are you won't even need to flash your radio, so it's nothing to worry about. Good luck with your new HD2. Its the most versatile, powerful phone when you learn to use it well.
Yeah, I was a fellow BlackBerry user. I've had 2 in past... and my most recent device was the BlackBerry 9700.
I certainly miss the days where I'd manage to squeeze 70 hours out of a single charge cycle.
But nevertheless, I am absolutely in love with the HD2. Plus, I've owned countless HTC products, and I'm always left satisfied and smiling...
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!
(I couldn't help myself...)
i JUST got it! walmart had one left and i had a gift certificate. omg i love it alreay, and i have not even started to play with it. Guys i need your help...
what do i do first? updates? how do i know what updates to do? are there any tutorials in here i can read about noobs? i want to make sure mine is up to date for sure...but so far i love it. what a nice screen and feel...
LOVE IT!
I just upgraded from a Blackberry curve, and from an IT professional's standpoint, I love this phone. The ability to tinker, the software community here, multimedia capabilities, and the tools built in (wifi access point, slacker, etc.) are a welcome breath of fresh air to having a smart phone.
i have been looking and reading, but im getting a little confused. where do i go to find any updates for my phone? i cant seem to find any on the HTC website?
dvigue said:
i have been looking and reading, but im getting a little confused. where do i go to find any updates for my phone? i cant seem to find any on the HTC website?
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Try this:
http://www.htc.com/europe/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
But, I am not sure whether they are for EU or US versions.
EDIT: Just realized the link is for the EU version...here is the link for the US version....no updates ATM but keep an eye out
http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-hd2/downloads/
oh ok, that is what i wondered...so there are NO updates for the tmobile version? is that becasue i already have a newer ROM with all those updates on it? my rom is Dated 2/22/10 and is version 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWe
is this because the tmobile version just came out?
dvigue said:
oh ok, that is what i wondered...so there are NO updates for the tmobile version? is that becasue i already have a newer ROM with all those updates on it? my rom is Dated 2/22/10 and is version 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWe
is this because the tmobile version just came out?
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For this to be a smooth transition you must realize this is a completely different experience. There will not be a lot, if any, official updates. What there will be is unofficial/leaked updates that are implemented in custom (cooked) roms. Some of these will be leaked from Microsoft and some will be released from HTC but TMobile USA will most likely not leak any. Don't panic though, because this is why we love XDA Devs so much.
You will need to read MSkips tutorial on flashing HardSPL. HSPL will allow you to flash these custom roms and a few other things. These custom roms will often be cutting edge so read which ones you really want because some will simply be going for speed, others looks and others stability. There are some great cooks around here who actually combine all three.
I write this because you are already panicking on a lack of updates. That's just not how it works here so you have to let it go. You don't find the same OS version on every model like in BlackBerry or Iphone over here. Older models are having roms cooked for them that include what only the new ones have out the box because many of the older phones here don't have the memory or are simply out of the loop for the carrier and HTC. My 8525 was like that. I'm just explaining so you understand the landscape better.
The best way to succeed here is to search and ask questions once you can't find the answers. Most of the stuff you have questions about has been asked and answered before (most but not all). Make sure to read in this forum and the other HD2 forum because the phones aren't that different. If you have a question or concern about a specific program or rom make sure you ask the question in that thread and not create a new thread.
Welcome to WinMo and XDA Devs. Also our TMo USA HD2's do have the latest official updates.
Hope your htc hd2 blows up! The starter of this thread is a joke! He bothers me for two days texting me as early as 5am saying he wants the phone please dont sell, as he's waiting for the money. We make a deal after going back and fourth on text messages. He tells me a few hours later he's not buying because he bought it locally at walmart. WHAT A PATHETIC JERK!! I ^&%^ wasted my time taking pix to send him just for him to take this whole thing as a JOKE! I lost out on another potential deal because this idiot agreed on buying it. BE AWARE of this LOSER!!!
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For this to be a smooth transition you must realize this is a completely different experience. There will not be a lot, if any, official updates. What there will be is unofficial/leaked updates that are implemented in custom (cooked) roms. Some of these will be leaked from Microsoft and some will be released from HTC but TMobile USA will most likely not leak any. Don't panic though, because this is why we love XDA Devs so much.
You will need to read MSkips tutorial on flashing HardSPL. HSPL will allow you to flash these custom roms and a few other things. These custom roms will often be cutting edge so read which ones you really want because some will simply be going for speed, others looks and others stability. There are some great cooks around here who actually combine all three.
I write this because you are already panicking on a lack of updates. That's just not how it works here so you have to let it go. You don't find the same OS version on every model like in BlackBerry or Iphone over here. Older models are having roms cooked for them that include what only the new ones have out the box because many of the older phones here don't have the memory or are simply out of the loop for the carrier and HTC. My 8525 was like that. I'm just explaining so you understand the landscape better.
The best way to succeed here is to search and ask questions once you can't find the answers. Most of the stuff you have questions about has been asked and answered before (most but not all). Make sure to read in this forum and the other HD2 forum because the phones aren't that different. If you have a question or concern about a specific program or rom make sure you ask the question in that thread and not create a new thread.
Welcome to WinMo and XDA Devs. Also our TMo USA HD2's do have the latest official updates.
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Great info....i really enjoyed your post...I cant wait to strart learning more and more about this phone. I really lucked out. My local walmart had only 1 left, and i had a gift card so i got it at a good price. I have had the iphone and this is so much better....i cant wait to start to customize it...
Thanks gang!
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Hope your htc hd2 blows up! The starter of this thread is a joke! He bothers me for two days texting me as early as 5am saying he wants the phone please dont sell, as he's waiting for the money. We make a deal after going back and fourth on text messages. He tells me a few hours later he's not buying because he bought it locally at walmart. WHAT A PATHETIC JERK!! I ^&%^ wasted my time taking pix to send him just for him to take this whole thing as a JOKE! I lost out on another potential deal because this idiot agreed on buying it. BE AWARE of this LOSER!!!
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I really don't know what to say about this. Did I talk with him about buying his phone yes, did we talk back and fourth all day about it? yes. Isn't that what craigslist is all about? bartering, making deals etc? it was at the last moment when i found out a local walmart had one HD2 left at the same price he was selling it at, and i had a gift card so it was even cheaper, and it was 5 min from my house (for returns etc) so that is why i backed out. I am in no way a "scammer" because of this. sorry, im not.
I apologized multiple times, and he wont accept, so there is no more that I can do. I even tried a few contacts to see if they would buy it from him. I cant do any more...
on a positive, Jain75 was Very good with communication, and answered all my questions i had about the sale. he did take multiple pictures for me like i had asked. I had asked for all of that, because i was sending someone 450 dollars whom i did not know, so i wanted all the proof that the phone was legit that i could get. and he did give that all to me.
again, i feel really bad, but what else can i do? i have had MANY MANY people say "yeah ill buy that, let me get back to you" and i never hear back. at least i told him the truth,....
I just recently came over from a blackberry storm 2 to hd2 April 1. Let me say that the HD2 is a totally different experience from blackberry. I loved how the blackberry managed my business OTOH it sucked for pleasure. With the HD2 you get both business and pleasure.
HTC blows blackberry out of the water to me, at least this hd2 does. By that I mean large screen, plenty of themes, apps, etc. Not the same old tired interface as blackberry. It has NO LAG WHATSOEVER. This phone has all my needs met and more.
Only thing about windows is you have to find roms,apps, etc instead of it being in a central location.
I will be using this phone for awhile, t-mobile is crappy in my area so I unlocked to at&t.
I carry a BB Tour and a HD2 right now.
The only two things I like about the BB over the HD2 are the battery life of the BB and the keyboard. I HATE the HD2 on screen keyboard. Even swipe blows.
But if you are anything like me, it's all about the Apps (quality Apps, that is). The HD2 is my media phone, hands down (better than my iPhone). The BB is the work horse and back up music player.
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I carry a BB Tour and a HD2 right now.
The only two things I like about the BB over the HD2 are the battery life of the BB and the keyboard. I HATE the HD2 on screen keyboard. Even swipe blows.
But if you are anything like me, it's all about the Apps (quality Apps, that is). The HD2 is my media phone, hands down (better than my iPhone). The BB is the work horse and back up music player.
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I hate the onscreen keyboard too lol. I have been trying to find another input keyboard that somewhat resembles blackberry.
Actually this HD2 can do it all. Give it a try. I use it for my business and media. I plug my phone up to my car everyday for media and it charges it as well.
Hey all,
I am a t mobile USA user and im new to the windows mobile phone. I have been trolling around the forums trying to figure out bits and pieces of how to make my phone better. Now ROM are a big thing im trying to figure out. I know they are pretty much like re-writing the ECU of a car. I have been using search features and reading through the FAQ but im trying to figure out which would be the best way to increase performance. I have BsB, cookie's home tab, and a few other small tweaks. I have Pandora working somewhat good, except the sound quality is junk.
My real questions are can i get the SMS fix on the standard t-mobile rom? Also everyone refers to manila, is that simply HTC Sense or is it a rom? and finally which rom is best for a newbie to winmo? I'm just trying to get this phone to not crash on me all the time and not to lagg like crazy.
Thanks for any responses and help,
Chris
Hello,
Even with the newest ROM from HTC my phone still was annoying and crashy. I finally gave up playing it safe and installed a cooked ROM and it's pretty much as I would have expected the phone in the first place.
So my advice is to give up on trying to track HTC's fixes, or your service provider's updates, and go with one of those. I suppose that HTC and telcos only have a certain amount of time and budget to spend on the phone OS development, and they have to make them work in all conditions, rather than tune it to individual applications. Some of the devs on this forum have the time/knowledge and resources to re-engineer the OS to work much better.
I have been using the Artemis series which, as I said, gives me pretty much what I expected of the phone to start with. Considering the "default" install this is actually pretty amazing!
Have a look here for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
Write me back I'll help you install ev erythinng you need
Hello and welcome to the WinMo world!
I can't answer any ROM questions, as I personally still run stock (I don't get any lags etc others seem to get) but I can answer one of your q's:
Manila is indeed Sense, not a ROM.