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Easy question for devs - HTC Titan Screen Orientation

i posted this in general discussion, but no one ever replied so im gonna try my luck here. i have the HTC Tital/Sprint Mogul/6800 whatever you want to call it and i wanted to know if there was a way to keep the screen orientation set on landscape so even when you slide it open and close it, it stays on landscape.
it's probably a very simple regedit, but i dont know where to look. thanks in advance.

Not to take anything away from this great community and forum, but it seems that most of the information here is geared towards GSM phones. Try out ppcgeeks.com for CDMA questions especially dealing with the Apache and Titan.

Problem is, this is a great source for all things HTC related, regardless of what frequencies and protocols it uses to connect to the cell towers.
I have a Wizard and a Tornado, and I've been here for a while learning new info and contributing whenever I could to enhance the overall Windows Mobile community.
I'm strongly considering jumping to a Titan because of competitive data plans they offer with it (far less than any US gsm provider), and I've seen threads of US users who feel the same.
I'm already familiar with the forum here, as are they, and we're all a little annoyed that the moderators have not yet allowed a new section for the Titan here. After all, the apache DOES have its own section...

I also agree that the titan should have its own forum here. I have also asked over on ppcgeeks and SU and no one has an answer.
I figured someone on here might know or it might already be fixed on another device and could be applied to the titan.
anyone know of anyway to do this yet?

Is the IPAQ 910-12-14 manufactured by HTC?

I ask, because seeing this forum, is the first time I've seen that mentioned.
In another forum (not XDA-dev) I saw the manufacturer listed as Inventec.
And in an HP IPAQ forum. someone asked if the HTC mini-USB to 3.5 or 2.5 audio adapters would work on the IPAQ 910. Someone else answered "no", saying that the HTC mini-USB ports are eleven pin, while the one on this IPAQ is ten pin.
If the phone were made by HTC, I would think that they would use the same kind of mini-USB port, as on their other phones.
Is it known for sure, that the IPAQ 910 was manufactured by HTC?
Has anyone here tried one of the mini-USB audio adapters made for HTC, on their IPAQ 910? If so, how well did it work?
HTC chargers seem to work.
Thanks for your feedback.

no it is not made by HTC.
for audio adapter , see here

keyx said:
no it is not made by HTC.
for audio adapter , see here
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Why is it listed here then, under "Other HTC manufactured phones-Sable"?
So, do you agree with those who say that the mini-USB audio adapters made for HTC phones, will not work well with the IPAQ 910?
It's OK to use the same chargers and sync cables though, no? They seem to work--I hope not harming the phone in some way.

because we don't have other better place to meet & group the threads together haha, so people just just post here for any HP IPAQ i suppose
anyway adapter made for HTC won't work on 91x because the pin-layout is different for audio.
It is ok to use the same cable for charge and sync because the charge and data transfer is a common standard in mini-usb. No audio is defined in the standard so manufacturer define their own-standard

Thanks for the info.
It is weird then, that manufacturers make their own proprietary headphone port, and then do not even make an adapter for it.
Shame on HP for doing so! (At least HTC makes an adapter for theirs, including one that has another mini-USB for charging, and a 2.5 and 3.5 headphone ports.)
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Ha Ha. So the "HTC Sable" is a non-existent phone, an imaginary HTC phone, to list non-HTC phones under, so that the board admins don't know that people are discussing a (GASP!) non-HTC phone on their HTC-only board?
Oops, I hope they don't read this thread!
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By the way, Keyx, since you seem to be very technically knowledgeable, if you have a chance, please take a look at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3619813&posted=1#post3619813
and let me know, if you have any insight into the question.
If I had known about this board, I might have posted it here. Not knowing, I posted it in the general WinMo board.
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HTC Sable exist and made by HTC, it is one of the older IPAQ model, i forgot the model number though
EDITED: look at the text under the main title of this subforum: Also known as HP iPAQ hw69xx (hw6915 / hw6925 / hw6945 / hw6965 / hw6910 / hw6920 / hw6940)
Traditionally a few IPAQ were made by HTC but not 61x/91x this time
I don't have a data plan now so can't really look into DUN issue..may be a few weeks after i can,definitely not now though

keyx said:
because we don't have other better place to meet & group the threads together haha, so people just just post here for any HP IPAQ i suppose
anyway adapter made for HTC won't work on 91x because the pin-layout is different for audio.
It is ok to use the same cable for charge and sync because the charge and data transfer is a common standard in mini-usb. No audio is defined in the standard so manufacturer define their own-standard
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As I mentioned already some time ago, there is a better place. Setup specially for ipaq 614/914 etc .... And ppl waiting to get news
Look here
Dirk

dirlan2001 said:
As I mentioned already some time ago, there is a better place. Setup specially for ipaq 614/914 etc .... And ppl waiting to get news
Look here
Dirk
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There is an IPAQ 910/912/914 forum there now, but zero posts there yet. I guess people are reluctant to post, if they think no one will read and respond there.
Someone has to start posting there........

I used to work on the HTC Juno (T-Mobile Shadow) in the Smartphone General section of xda-developers, and after a year or so they finally gave us our own sub-forum. They may eventually do the same here. You're right that there's a bit of an HTC-only vibe with the way the forum is organized, but certainly I've seen Toshiba and Samsung-manufacturered device ROMs around here too.
The benefits of staying with xda-developers are clear: we use the same tools and methods that are used for HTC devices. Not to mention that despite the new iPAQs having a different manufacturer, they share much of the same kinds of underlying hardware (i.e. Qualcomm chipset, ARM processor). Those who own an HP 61x or a 91x are likely to have owned an HTC device in the past and may own an HTC device in the future. It is nice for us to stay with the same community
The big irony, of course, is that we've seen far more progress on xda-developers for the 61x and the 91x than we have for the (older and uglier) iPAQ h6300, which was actually made by HTC. Just ask brewhoxs - he'll tell you all about how there's no custom ROM developed for that device at all
Maybe rather than jumping to other forums we should put the pressure on xda-devs moderators to give us a sub-forum of our own.

benjaminries said:
I used to work on the HTC Juno (T-Mobile Shadow) in the Smartphone General section of xda-developers, and after a year or so they finally gave us our own sub-forum. They may eventually do the same here. You're right that there's a bit of an HTC-only vibe with the way the forum is organized, but certainly I've seen Toshiba and Samsung-manufacturered device ROMs around here too.
The benefits of staying with xda-developers are clear: we use the same tools and methods that are used for HTC devices. Not to mention that despite the new iPAQs having a different manufacturer, they share much of the same kinds of underlying hardware (i.e. Qualcomm chipset, ARM processor). Those who own an HP 61x or a 91x are likely to have owned an HTC device in the past and may own an HTC device in the future. It is nice for us to stay with the same community
The big irony, of course, is that we've seen far more progress on xda-developers for the 61x and the 91x than we have for the (older and uglier) iPAQ h6300, which was actually made by HTC. Just ask brewhoxs - he'll tell you all about how there's no custom ROM developed for that device at all
Maybe rather than jumping to other forums we should put the pressure on xda-devs moderators to give us a sub-forum of our own.
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Well that's the problem .. the guys at WinMoDev made an agreement with XDA to keep out each others fishingpond. XDA for HTC-phones and WinMoDev for other. Although I must agree I haven't seen much life on WinMo, the forum being many times down for some reason.
So wether we keep 'hiding' in the Sable-forum, or move over depends on the posters and on the readers, of course.
Just my 2c
Dirk

dirlan2001 said:
Well that's the problem .. the guys at WinMoDev made an agreement with XDA to keep out each others fishingpond. XDA for HTC-phones and WinMoDev for other. Although I must agree I haven't seen much life on WinMo, the forum being many times down for some reason.
So wether we keep 'hiding' in the Sable-forum, or move over depends on the posters and on the readers, of course.
Just my 2c
Dirk
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Really? This is the first I've heard of such a mutual no-compete agreement between the voluntary operators of two free forums.
Interesting. Not to toot anyone's horn, but we'd probably get a successful one-shot transition if keyx, sergiorus, ke_steve_le, Montecristo and myself all moved at the same time.
And maybe we should? Except winmodevelopers.co.cc says they are moving to new phpbb forums that will be at winmodevs.com. Plus when I visit the existing site it tries to install an unknown ActiveX control. Not cool!
Haha we should shop around wmexperts.com and ppcgeeks.com for competing trade offers

benjaminries said:
Really? This is the first I've heard of such a mutual no-compete agreement between the voluntary operators of two free forums.
Interesting. Not to toot anyone's horn, but we'd probably get a successful one-shot transition if keyx, sergiorus, ke_steve_le, Montecristo and myself all moved at the same time.
And maybe we should? Except winmodevelopers.co.cc says they are moving to new phpbb forums that will be at winmodevs.com. Plus when I visit the existing site it tries to install an unknown ActiveX control. Not cool!
Haha we should shop around wmexperts.com and ppcgeeks.com for competing trade offers
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Hi,
Here's the topic in which Jay mentionned it ... The forum is still on the original *.forumer.com, so indeed rather confusing.
I use Firefox, no ActiveX seen or heared
Dirk

hey guys
im sorry to see you have had isues with the forum
at one point there was a very confusing time as we were gonna move to another brand of forum but that fell through, as for the downtime that was due to us perfecting the forum
one change that was implemented though as we have taken away all of the device forums this was mainly due to fatc that more and more device makers are bringing out winmo phones this makes it very hard for me and the other admins to keep track of
also we needed a place for non htc android devices to go
HOWEVER
the forum is up and running if you fancy moving there now
http://winmodevs.com
all the non htc devices are still welcome
also just to note the only reason there isnt a lot of posts is because if people dont se others helpoing they wont post so basically i need you devvers to get all you stuff moved over and theyll be a who load of new posters

Samsung Behold II and Galaxy

Well the Behold II is upon and its pretty similar to the Galaxy, so can the great guys here at XDA develop some ROMs for them? We need a separate forum for these phones.

This a forum for HTC phones, so you wont see any new sections for non-hTC devices.

NM I should read.

AdrianK said:
This a forum for HTC phones, so you wont see any new sections for non-hTC devices.
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TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.

brummiesteven said:
TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
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The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be

mancsoulja said:
The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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I see a xperia x1 forum...

Rcommander said:
I see a xperia x1 forum...
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Not to be a smart-arse, but the X1 is produced by HTC

brummiesteven said:
TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
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I believe that was one of the reasons for this subforum ;-)

There is also a Palm Pre sub forum and I don't believe that is made by HTC.

btmec said:
There is also a Palm Pre sub forum and I don't believe that is made by HTC.
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Hmmmmm...Don't see a Palm Pre sub-forum, maybe I am having trouble with my eyes...
If perchance you mean the Palm Treo 750, then you would be mistaken as it is in fact manufactured by HTC...as is every single device that has its own sub-forum on XDA.

I just want to see these devices rooted so we can installed the better Samsung music, video player(I think there is divx support), and if possible the camera software also.

Hey Everyone I posted a new thread with some updated information about the BH2 which may have us one step closer to perm root and recovery and custom ROMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=597501

mancsoulja said:
The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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Then allow me to ask an obvious question: Why would a presumably independent user-run internet forum like this one devote itself entirely and exclusively to one specific manufacturer? Assuming that HTC doesn't actually own this forum, why is such blatant favoritism/discrimination taking place? Does HTC pay some kind of fee to have XDA dedicated entirely to its devices only? I don't get it. Why the preferential treatment?

Don't be disrespectful ... READ the history of XDA and why it came about before you guys take on XDA .,.,., Instead of demanding a forum , lets see if we can get some of the devs interested in these units.... First thing first ,they need to have the phone in hand to work on them , so find one willing and lets get that dev a phone to hack...some of you guys kno how to get a second phone @ no cost (**cough**lost **cough**phone)so do it .,. lets get them hacking this beautiful unit ,.,..,

paleozord said:
Then allow me to ask an obvious question: Why would a presumably independent user-run internet forum like this one devote itself entirely and exclusively to one specific manufacturer? Assuming that HTC doesn't actually own this forum, why is such blatant favoritism/discrimination taking place? Does HTC pay some kind of fee to have XDA dedicated entirely to its devices only? I don't get it. Why the preferential treatment?
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That is like asking Tmonews.com why they only have T-Mobile specific forums and not AT&T and Verizon and Orange and Roger and some Japanese network. It's because it's there site and they just want to focus on one subject. If you want discussion about different phones then this is a site that is not right for you. The owner just wants HTC and he's paying the bills so he will keep it just HTC.

But this site isn't called HTC-Developers, so it isn't obvious to visitors or members where the HTC devotion/bias comes from. Most people get referred here from other forums when looking for WinMo hacks, ROMs etc, not because they were looking for something HTC-specific.
I've actually been a member and regular visitor of this forum for a couple of years I believe, and this is the first time I've ever even heard of this HTC-centricity. It always seemed more generally Windows Mobile/OS focused than manufacturer specific.
In any case I don't recall challenging the site owner's authority or right to gear the site toward whatever he/she wishes. Rather my question was WHY this is the case, as in WHY the devs are devoted to HTC over other manufacturers. There is a significant difference between asking why something is the case, and suggesting that the owner doesn't have the right to make it so. Saying "because the owner wants it that way" isn't an answer to the question "Why does the owner want it that way?".
I did read the history and realize that the site started years ago based on an early HTC device or two; what I don't understand is why it has remained that way. My first vehicle was a tricycle but that doesn't mean I've stayed a tricycle devotee and ignored bikes and cars even to this day.

Back in those days HTC was mainly just making phones for other companies , like Imate tmobile O2 etc..... and they wont branded HTC but , whatever company it was made for . This site was born based on the lack of support these companies provided, you was always redirected to HTC who inturn sent you to your carrier. It has grown since then mostly windows mobile but now has a fast growing android side . They will support HTC androids , but thankfully some of the hacks work on other android devices ... We just have to get devs intrested in these devices and they can post their work here in the android Development section ... I think this would help us a lot

Its too bad, really: the only downside I find to my current phone (Sammy Moment) is that it isn't supported by XDA. My next phone will more than likely be HTC just because I miss all the value added this community provides.

Well if Im not mistaken the moto droid is Motorola and Motorola is not htc or in any form HTC and the acer infact isnt HTC therefore this hole site isnt HTC....

WHAT IN THE WORLD!
Hey, can we get a ROM or not? I just got this Behold 2 and I know DroidDeveloper managed to flash a Galaxy ROM onto it... what is the issues here? Just post some ROMs or post something productive. This phone has been out since December. Since everybody is cheap, I'll buy a dev a Behold 2 so they can start cooking some ROMs up... come on now...

Should xda give us our own portal?..They answered and said "YES"

Thanks to everyone that voted.
As for the 6 that voted No, have fun with your new EVO or Nexus One. I'm sure the $300-$400 is going to buy a great phone, but I'm going to hold off on it for a while.
Looks like we will have our own forum and sub-forums after the weekend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6206357&postcount=899

We fought for this a long while ago... And I have suggested many times... I don't think it will happen as much as this sub-forum needs it..
*edit.. When I refreshed it was there..

Absolutely, positively yes.
The GSM Hero and the CDMA Hero are completely different phones. More different, at least that the Sprint Hero and the Verizon Droid Eris. (In fact, if there was ever a reason to put two phones in the same forum, it would be the Sprint Hero and the Eris. They're the same damn thing with different colored plastic...)
Sprint may not be the biggest carrier, but they're still not small. The Sprint Hero deserves the same treatment as any other phone....

Yes Yes Yes ...

No joke. The stupidist phones have their own forum. Why cant the CDMA Hero?
For instance:
The HTC Wallaby...Seriously?? ROFL
HTC Universal: Look how lame it looks...
HTC Apache: It barely has 250 threads.
HTC Charmer: Barely has 200 threads.
Palm Treo: Has two forums dedicated to their pile of **** phones. Really now?
HTC Athena: Lame
And that folks is just the tip of the iceberg. The CDMA Hero has more threads than the G2. LOL

Yes and a mod or two. I sent in a request for this yesterday.

its not even just a want at this point, its more like a need.

I mean as much activity that this single forum gets daily is cause alone for us to have our own portal

About time. This saves me two clicks...

Yeah lets go on strike...
Awww ****... no one needs us..
Oh well we really do need this, i hope they look at the stats soon, We have probably close to the highest posts and threads made a day.

totally agree we need this, not only would it help organize everything but then there would be the general discution section where people can post thier random stuff and not get 6 lame threads saying "stop with the lame threads" as far as potential mods go my votes go to toast and obilisk

we needed this a long time ago

Guys, there is a place to ask for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=89
I posted just a day or so ago and even offered to donate for their time and effort to make this happen.
Maybe.....IF you posted your thoughts in that thread they would take a look.
It is after all a thread/area where they say to post and they'll answer you maybe?
Thanks,
Bubba.

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Guys, there is a place to ask for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=89
I posted just a day or so ago and even offered to donate for their time and effort to make this happen.
Maybe.....IF you posted your thoughts in that thread they would take a look.
It is after all a thread/area where they say to post and they'll answer you maybe?
Thanks,
Bubba.
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I don't know that I would have offered them 50.00.
And in fact it's NOT hard to create subsections for this. This bulletin board software is fairly standard. Probably take 10 minutes to create stuff. Getting the mods to move threads around would take a while, sure, but the subfora would be ready and usable in the meantime.

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Who are the two ppl who said NO ?? They are certainly now owning a HTC Sprint Hero i believe

I agree. The subforum was a good idea when the GSM Hero had just been released and a CDMA version was still just a rumor, but now it is really its' own device with its' own community. We have no use for any of the GSM forums, all we have is this one dinky forum that expands at a collossal rate every day.

Re: Should xda give us our own portal? I'm sending over to Admins
No joke. The stupidist phones have their own forum. Why cant the CDMA Hero?
For instance:
The HTC Wallaby...Seriously?? ROFL
HTC Universal: Look how lame it looks...
HTC Apache: It barely has 250 threads.
HTC Charmer: Barely has 200 threads.
Palm Treo: Has two forums dedicated to their pile of **** phones. Really now?
HTC Athena: Lame
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You should understand that phones such as the Wallaby and Apache(although not the XDA line) are some of the original HTC phones and those forums are what started XDA. The Apache was HTCs first major entry into the US CDMA market. XDA-developers has historically been for GSM phones(ie,XDA's) with CDMA hacking based over at ppcgeeks.com. Threads for the Apache are in the thousands there.
Only since the CDMA hero has there been real active dominant development of any cdma phone done here....

it would be nice to just separate the general talk from the dev talk... I used to think this was a dev forum and everything else should go in hero general talk, the general user base reminds me otherwise on a daily basis.
Lord help you if you actually suggest a topic be moved, people start accusing you of acting like a self proclaimed mod. I've pretty much given up posting in this section because of it.

LOL. Seriously??? The EVO is coming out this summer and 25% of the hero community will be leaving immediately and then another 25% will leave for it in 6 months after that!
MODS, this subforum is just fine.

[DISCUSSION] Merge subforums? A single development Forum for ALL HTC Vision phones?

This post is up for discussion
Regarding the "HTC Vision" T-Mobile G2 & the "HTC Vision" HTC Desire Z, right now each one has its own separate subforum
We are talking about the same phone (with slight brand and band differences) over two different subforums. ROMs would be different, but the hardware is the same
DISCUSSION:
- Should the "HTC Vision" G2 & "HTC Vision" Desire Z's subforums better get merged ?
- Could there be more collaboration and cross-information in such case ??
- Have we previously had a symilar experience with another HTC device ??
- Or is it better to keep both phones' android development appart, over separated subforums ??
(and separate other future "HTC Vision" variants too, like the upcomming HTC Vision for Verizon, the ADR6325 aka HTC Merge/Lexikon)
- What's best for development / ROM cooking purposes ??
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Absolutely agree. There are many other forums on XDA-Dev where different national and/or carrier variants of the same phone have been grouped together, and this would seem an obvious choice to do the same. Keep the thumbnail from the Desire Z link though, as this is the generic version of the phone and also as the pic shows the keyboard slid out.
I think the name "Vision" is obsolete now anyway isn't it? The official HTC name is now the Desire Z, and the US name for that phone is, at present on one carrier only of course, the T-Mobile G2.
Andre

andrewilley said:
Absolutely agree. There are many other forums on XDA-Dev where different national and/or carrier variants of the same phone have been grouped together, and this would seem an obvious choice to do the same. Keep the thumbnail from the Desire Z link though, as this is the generic version of the phone and also as the pic shows the keyboard slid out.
I think the name "Vision" is obsolete now anyway isn't it? The official HTC name is now the Desire Z, and the US name for that phone is, at present on one carrier only of course, the T-Mobile G2.
Andre
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"Vision" is not obsolete, even official ROMs seem to be labeled as "RUU Vision HTC WWE etc..."
Some users @ G2 forums are reporting flashing the Desire Z ROM into the G2
EDIT: up to date only one user
and in the Desire Z forums some users are following the G2's root process
Time will tell for sure, but looks like they are the same phone,
just different radios and badges
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Should add a poll option. I'm for the merger.

By TOTAL coincidence I PMed one of the mods last night about this same topic.
I believe his/her intention was to bring it up with the other moderators to see what the deal is, since the G2 and the Z so far as we know only have very slight differences:
Frequency Bands
ROM size
this would fall under the same situation as other devices such as the fuze/touch pro (aka Raphael) (yes I know ROM wasnt different sizes).
If there were serious differences that would cause ROM incompatabilities then sure
"Desire Z Android Development" and "G2 Android Development" sub-fora would do the trick????
But as a device family they are still both a HTC Vision.

There @ G2's fora, by now, seems only one person has reported cross-flashing
I don't have a D-Z or G2 to confirm /deny, so
I am eagerly following the G2 forums (and the desire Z's release date ) for more evidence
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Should add a poll option. I'm for the merger.
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I had the same idea initially,
but no poll is required if the hardware is the same
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Our stance in a case like this where there is a USA variant of a phone that is nearly identical to the Euro-spec phone is to still have separate forums. This leads to the least amount of confusion. What would happen (and we've tried this for other devices in the past) is that some people will post their G2 questions (usually T-Mobile specific) in the Desire Z forum, thus requiring the moderators to constantly migrate posts. Also, G2 ROMs won't work on the Desire Z.
For now, we'll keep them separate. If anyone has a major disagreement (now or in the future), please send me a PM.

Well, IMHO it's a good decision to have separate sections.
See TMOUS HD2 and Europe HD2.

Shouldn't it be one general and two development then?
Like X10 Mini and X10 Mini Pro.

Yeah, one general and two development sections would be good, but as svetius said, think of it: having operator-specific questions for G2 on DesireZ sections wouldn't be so good.

Desire Z is starting to ship. Let's wait a few weeks to see the level of development there is for each device. If needed, we will merge.

kholk said:
Yeah, one general and two development sections would be good, but as svetius said, think of it: having operator-specific questions for G2 on DesireZ sections wouldn't be so good.
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so... are we going to have yet another forum for BELL users only ??
hmmm...
as svetius stated,
let's see what happens when more of us get our D-Zs,
but lets not close the possibility
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Ponder this for a minute.
The G2 and Desire Z (although not yet in circulation) are very popular devices. By keeping separate forums for each device, your chances of finding accurate information increases, and helps the mods keep the forums cleaner. If the two were combined, I guarantee you that we would receive even more complaints about "noobs" posting in the dev section and creating new threads to ask questions that have already been answered. By keeping separate forums it makes my job keeping Desire Z clean (weeding out these complaints and stopping them from happening) and CaptainKrtek to keep G2 clean.
With that said, would you rather have easy navigation and a clean fora, or would you rather have the two combined, which IMHO, really holds no purpose?

I partially agree with you TheROMMistress,
but as a user, I currently have to keep track of BOTH forums, which already duplicates the weed so I really dunno what to do, what's better
G2 fora is lightyears ahead from us, they've had their G2s for weeks now, and they have progressed a lot on commonly asked Qs (hinges, root, deleting sys files, etc)
The point here is (and I don't have the answer):
Would development benefit from joining efforts between G2 and standard D-Z users ??

gtrab said:
I partially agree with you TheROMMistress,
but as a user, I currently have to keep track of BOTH forums, which already duplicates the weed so I really dunno what to do, what's better
G2 fora is lightyears ahead from us, they've had their G2s for weeks now, and they have progressed a lot on commonly asked Qs (hinges, root, deleting sys files, etc)
The point here is (and I don't have the answer):
Would development benefit from joining efforts between G2 and standard D-Z users ??
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Yes, I understand they have already made breakthroughs on the G2, but what would be easier for an up-and-coming DZ owner? Weed through all the items in G2 fora or have a fresh start with a relatively new fora? Trust me, Devs will not limit themselves to the DZ fora for info. If there is something out there, they will find it, and incorporate it in DZ forum, you just have to give it some time. In the mean time, SEARCH IS YOUR FRIEND

Thank you, Supreme Commander
I am sure Mods and Admins will take the best decission for users and devs
In the meant time, my provider has confirmed they are shipping my D-Z today

gtrab said:
Thank you, Supreme Commander
I am sure Mods and Admins will take the best decission for users and devs
In the meant time, my provider has confirmed they are shipping my D-Z today
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Lol, Damn Skippy! Congrats

I definitely support the merger (no good ever came to the Galaxy S phones from having 84934529 separate forums) but give it one-two weeks for all the early adopter hysteria to settle down.

Pickx said:
I definitely support the merger (no good ever came to the Galaxy S phones from having 84934529 separate forums) but give it one-two weeks for all the early adopter hysteria to settle down.
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It certainly holds its purpose for the HD2.

I can't see the benefit in keeping things separate. As gtrab said, I too am now keeping track on both sets of forums. Pretty much everything over in ROM development for the G2 is relevant to the DZ. There is going to be an awful lot of duplication over the coming weeks. Either that, or the DZ forums will be quiet with more and more people going over to the G2 side. But if DZ stuff is asked about over on G2, I presume that'll be off-topic. Seems like a mess to me.
I can understand the idea of waiting and seeing how it goes though, just wish the decision was otherwise.