on the xperia blog they say they have review handsets so soon we should see some reviews.
if u have a website or blog u may be able to get a review handset (u will have to send it back after review).
link:
http://xperiancers.com/2009/10/15/x2-review-samples-pitch-us-on-twitter/
according to there twitter page the review handsets will be sent out next week. so hopefully there will be a ton of reviews, pics and vids by next wednesday.
Please don't consider this a flame on this thread but they can keep their X2.
It will be obsolete in six months anyway with the way SE supports.
I got one coming (hopefully)
augie7107 said:
Please don't consider this a flame on this thread but they can keep their X2.
It will be obsolete in six months anyway with the way SE supports.
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I don't know about you, but the X2 has definitely not made the X1 obsolete for me.
There are so many hardware features that are missing on the X2 but were on the X1 such as the optical joystick, video call and a 3.5mm audio jack. The X1 is still the better phone IMO.
edit: Hmmmm, I just saw a hands-on and it did show both an optical joystick and a 3.5mm audio jack on the X2, I wonder why SE's website lists it as not having those two :/
Still no front camera though
gsgflash said:
I don't know about you, but the X2 has definitely not made the X1 obsolete for me.
There are so many hardware features that are missing on the X2 but were on the X1 such as the optical joystick, video call and a 3.5mm audio jack. The X1 is still the better phone IMO.
edit: Hmmmm, I just saw a hands-on and it did show both an optical joystick and a 3.5mm audio jack on the X2, I wonder why SE's website lists it as not having those two :/
Still no front camera though
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there is a front camera and video call on the x2 but SE employ retards that dont put the right information on there site.
if my x1 broke and I was offered a x2 under warrenty I'd take it
otherwise it's pretty meh imho
To be honest...I've gotten so used to the optical joystick, I couldn't forsee myself not having one anymore.
Best thing about the xperia, is the size, I hope the X2 doesn't blow up in size.
mrbkkt1 said:
To be honest...I've gotten so used to the optical joystick, I couldn't forsee myself not having one anymore.
Best thing about the xperia, is the size, I hope the X2 doesn't blow up in size.
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but there is optical one on X2!
As for size - just look in the web!
There are sizes on many sites!
Like GSMArena.
They're almost the same!
The X2 has a couple nice things that the X1 was missing. It certainly isn't a worthy upgrade, but I'd trade my X1 for an X2 tomorrow.
augie7107 said:
Please don't consider this a flame on this thread but they can keep their X2.
It will be obsolete in six months anyway with the way SE supports.
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It beca:me obsolete the very second they announced it ha the same ancient processor/specs...
Ganondolf said:
but SE employ retards that dont put the right information on there site.
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LOL!!!!!!
Unfortunatelly true...
do a comparison on gsmarena. X2 has stereo speakers, better camera, and imo a better keyboard layout, but it x1 has FM radio /w RDS and those cool LED lights.
taekimon said:
do a comparison on gsmarena. X2 has stereo speakers, better camera, and imo a better keyboard layout, but it x1 has FM radio /w RDS and those cool LED lights.
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And X2 has also cool lights.
doministry said:
And X2 has also cool lights.
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Not as cool though .
Also, I like how you pop up every time someone mentions that the X2 sucks, it's ugly, etc. .
orelsi said:
Not as cool though .
Also, I like how you pop up every time someone mentions that the X2 sucks, it's ugly, etc. .
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meh, I think the LED lights look better on the X2 than the X1. I think the X2 as a whole looks better than the X1, besides the keyboard.
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meh, I think the LED lights look better on the X2 than the X1. I think the X2 as a whole looks better than the X1, besides the keyboard.
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i have to agree about the leds, the x2 night rider style led effect is a lot better than the x1's 4 led flashing effect.
Ganondolf said:
i have to agree about the leds, the x2 night rider style led effect is a lot better than the x1's 4 led flashing effect.
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I prefer X1's placement despite the fact that talking cars are kinda cool lol.
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Also, I like how you pop up every time someone mentions that the X2 sucks, it's ugly, etc. .
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Well it's a positive version of your iPhone syndrome
I want X2 and I like it, that's it.
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Well it's a positive version of your iPhone syndrome
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ROFL , touché...
there`s even a video review on the unwired: unboxing video X2. I would go for it.
Related
Uploaded to a new thread cos they were screwing up another thread on a different topic...
The comparison camera: My 4 year-old Canon Ixus 300
This is how far behind the pace the Universal's camera is... :roll:
Lets be honest though, the universal isnt really marketed for having a great camera. Its good for taking quite snapshots, but if your are that serious about taking pictures, get a nokia N90 or a digital camera. Its not really the camera what is bad, its just the really bad, plastic lens what is.
Can your 4 year old Ixus make phone calls, browse the web, check your emails, listen to music, watch movies?!?!
I was going to post comparisons about how far behind my alienware laptop my Universal is when playing Halflife, but I couldn't get it to run on my Universal :lol:
lol - OK, don't take this out of context please.
Someone in another thread was curious about the camera's abilities,
so I posted these pics as an illustration, but they screwed up the other
thread so I moved them to a new one. (See? They're even screwing
up this one too! ) Maybe the pics are useful for people who are
curious about the Universal's camera.
The camera quality isn't the reason why someone would buy the
Universal (understatement of the year!), but people will be interested
to know just how good/bad it is. This thread is an objective
demonstration just for them. 8)
I carry a nice 3.2 MPx Casio Exilim S100 - small, loads of useful features and otherwise fills the camera niche. The Exec replaced my P900 + x50v setup. I now use the x50v for development testing.
No probs for me using the universal for photos!!
Sorry guys. I'm quite happy with my jasjar for photos (considering it ain't a dedicated digitl camera!!)
I'm sure that HTC could really put a better camera on the Universal and in all WM devices; the problem is that they don't care ....they have so much space that they can put the K750 i sonyericsson camera module :lol:
If you have a look at the first comparison shots at the top of the kitchen, the Universal shot is clearer than the canon shot, look at the clock on the stove, the universal shot is clearer, you can hardly read the canon pic.
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Sorry guys. I'm quite happy with my jasjar for photos (considering it ain't a dedicated digitl camera!!)
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woah!!!!!! this is realllllllyyyy gooooddd!!!!
I guess its built to handle outdoors really well!
@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
San
Yes you are right there.....
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@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need
to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
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No no no!
Two of the pictures (the small ones) are taken at the same resolution
so that we can directly compare them! The Canon shot is a thumbnail.
Click on it to get the 640x480 version to match the 640x480 Universal
pic.
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SiliconS said:
dreamtheater39 said:
@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need
to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
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No no no!
Two of the pictures (the small ones) are taken at the same resolution
so that we can directly compare them! The Canon shot is a thumbnail.
Click on it to get the 640x480 version to match the 640x480 Universal
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i think you just added the 640x480 version recently by editing your post didnt you??
we just had the 1280pic from the universal, and the 640pic from your canon....of course....until you edited it unless....there was a problem with my browser!
Cheers!
S
[quote="The camera quality isn't the reason why someone would buy the
Universal (understatement of the year!), but people will be interested
to know just how good/bad it is. This thread is an objective
demonstration just for them. 8)[/quote]
If thats the case, then its alright. I dont like people dissin the device cos it doesn't take great pictures. No device on the market does what the jasjar can do, n i dare someone to argue with me on that
Sorry if we hijacked your thread.
can somebody post more pictures??? especially those taken with bad lighting conditions....
a couple pics in pitch dark, with the flash turned on...along with night mode on would be great too!
@universal
Noone would argue with you for sure you sure love your device!!!
San
universaldoc said:
.. No device on the market does what the jasjar can do, n i dare someone to argue with me on that
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Mate you should see the quality of pictures from the SE K750i they are really fantastic. Also the K750's battery lasts my wife 7 days and it is on 24hrs a day. So no competition for the JJ/Exec but makes you think
Like universaldoc wrote there is no other device like the universal, some phones might have a better camera but can they log into your computer on the other side of the world and fully control it..... The answer is clearly NO....... What is being said here is the Universal, despite its little problem, is a Phone/PDA in one that does is all. We will have better in the future but at this present time there is no comparison to anything Ericsson can make and that goes for in the future with Ericsson.
@seal, I know what is being said but not everyone wants all the features of the Universal. For me I still to use my PSP for videos over my Exec and I prefer the music reproduction of my Nokia 9500 (OGG) and Palm LifeDrive (DRM) over the Exec; the Exec music reproduction is very bass light.
I think that the camera is pretty ok with right settings...
@jah,
I agree that the camera is better on the SE K750i, probably the best after the Sharp V203SH.
But i just feel that it is rather unfair to diss the Universal based on the camera. As i have said before, if camera is a criteria for considering the universal, then i am speechless.
Just to make myself clear, i would have purchased the universal even if it did NOT have a camera
Hi,
Most of these are supposedly taken from the camera in Xperia... They look great for a 3.2 mega-pixel camera...
http://xperiancers.com/images/
Best regards.
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
Hmm... i think you may be right. Their main post led me to believe that most of them were, but i probably interpretted it wrong.
but the picture lineout looks cool with the movements and such
Yes quite cool and it's free to use: tiltViewer
By the way: Here you can find the photo taken with the Xperia X1 in higher resolution: click
Looks very good!
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pre...nia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison-update
Rudegar said:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pre...nia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison-update
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"With the Beta ROM, the house was more yellow then red but now, with the final ROM, the camera quality definitely improved and colors are right now." They say this for the i900... so hopefully we'll see further improvement in Xperia's final ROM.
The Omnia has a pretty decent photo quality for a mobile phone, but to be honest, the X1, Diamond and Touch Pro is really pathetic.
Let's see if the final ROM gives some improvement on this, but my hopes are not very high. (Fortunately, I don't need the camera anyways)
xmoo said:
Looks very good!
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Really?
But he also stated following:
An image shot using the camera on the Xperia X1 at the media preview event on Monday the 15th Sept 08. Bear in mind that this is in very low light, hence the motion blur.
So low light conditions are always difficult and of course especially for an inbuilt mobile phone camera.
foo said:
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
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Why you said that? There is not reason to believe these pictures weren't taken with the X1. Maybe you secretly wished to be bad.
The ones at the bottom OBVIOUSLY, were not. those the original art from Feb 10th 2008. All the others they HAVE text on the reverse but who cares it's just estupid effect of the creators of this viewer that is nice but just annoying. If I want to see a picture or download it I don't need all that tilting.
Well maybe you're right though I don't believe it.
You can also have a look at the flicker stream here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
The naming and the quality of the pictures is very different.
But okay, unfortunately they removed all EXIF otherwise it would have been easy to find out, but so I can only guess by indication.
Much better photos form X1
Lot of good photos taken using X1:-
http://www.wallpaper.com/interiors/london-design-festival-2008/2625
( in the bottom 3 GALLEYS)
The photo quality is better then I would have expected, though it can't compete with a compact camera, it shows a really decent quality for a smartphone.
Very nice
foo said:
The photo quality is better then I would have expected, though it can't compete with a compact camera, it shows a really decent quality for a smartphone.
Very nice
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And a compact camera can not compite the other features of the Xperia.
C'mon... we all know that.
In a positive way, I would compare these great pictures to the Touch Pro. Oranges and Oranges.
I kinda want to see a side by side of the X1 and the K790a/K800i. Judging by the pictures on all the sites the camera on the X1 appears to be far worse than those 2 year old handsets.
Yup, they are worse, worse than most current cameraphones (N95, N82, Innov8, Omnia, many other Sony models). You have to live with that with this phone, but at least they're serviceable enough in decent light conditions.
My camera on my wizard is covered by a skin right now so that goes to show you how much I care about a camera lol.
foo said:
The Omnia has a pretty decent photo quality for a mobile phone, but to be honest, the X1, Diamond and Touch Pro is really pathetic.
Let's see if the final ROM gives some improvement on this, but my hopes are not very high. (Fortunately, I don't need the camera anyways)
Really?
But he also stated following:
An image shot using the camera on the Xperia X1 at the media preview event on Monday the 15th Sept 08. Bear in mind that this is in very low light, hence the motion blur.
So low light conditions are always difficult and of course especially for an inbuilt mobile phone camera.
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I was comparing that with the Kaiser
foo said:
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
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does x1 have got cam
cihanleanne said:
does x1 have got cam
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That thread is from 2008.
And yes, the x1 has cam (1 front. 1 back)
There are some things I'd like to point out, I purchased from mobicity and I'm here to confirm some things about my X2.
1) Firmware: (Official release?)
Software ID 1231-7617
Software version R1AA-097
Customization version R5A
Language region Generic_SG
Radio 6.5.60221
2) Keyboard backlight lags and takes 5 seconds to light up after sliding.
3) Keyboard feels really light and plastic..
4) When sliding out keyboard, it doesn't have a heavy metal feel like the X1. Is this just the new feel of the X2?
5) It was said on wmpoweruser.com that X2 will be running windows mobile 6.5.3, I don't see any 6.5.3... or the start at the bottom of the screen.
6) Speaker volumes are quite soft, nowhere as loud as X1 with audiopara volume booster.. wondering if audiopara will work on X2?
7) Choppy video recording
8) Nice landscape pictures with 8,1 megapixel, BUT autofocus fails like X1 for up-close objects.
9) Less blurry than X1, but still blurry
That's all for now, will keep testing the X2.
I believe WMPoweruser said that the upgrade may come in the future, but all the shipping X2s will have plain 'ole WM 6.5 on them.
WM 6.5.3 wa first officially presented at CES
few days ago.
So you won't have it now.
So in terms of build quality, is the X2 better or the X1 better?
The thing I hate the most about HTC phones (X1 inclusive) is that they all feel cheap.
I can come to 4 conclusions about the X2:
X2 has better keyboard
X2 has faster/smoother graphics
X2 looks dam sexy
X2 gives me bragging rights
Everything else is available on X1 that X2 has, so if your a cheapo and want value for your buck, stick with X1.
royalbloodvi said:
I can come to 4 conclusions about the X2:
X2 has better keyboard
X2 has faster/smoother graphics
X2 looks dam sexy
X2 gives me bragging rights
Everything else is available on X1 that X2 has, so if your a cheapo and want value for your buck, stick with X1.
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How is the camera, please?
royalbloodvi said:
I can come to 4 conclusions about the X2:
X2 has better keyboard
X2 has faster/smoother graphics
X2 looks dam sexy
X2 gives me bragging rights
Everything else is available on X1 that X2 has, so if your a cheapo and want value for your buck, stick with X1.
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Thanks. Please report further info!!!
Software ID 1231-7617
Software version R1AA-097
Customization version R5A
Language region Generic_SG
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Same as our leaked official firmware Good sign.
Camera is the same as X1, laggy, blurry.
Tried infinite focus, macro, twiddled all the settings.
Very disappointed, actually I would say no difference in quality as X1.
Autofocus function just seems useless, cant even take medium to close quality pictures of anything.
X2 maybe 8.1 megapixels, but to me its just a number after testing it out.
I can come to one conclusion, image quality output are the same as X1..
Royal-b:
Thanks a lot for all the information. All of us really appreciate it.
I'm not sure how valuable this suggestion is, but it would be very interesting: could you run the sk tools benchmark and report the values? I think that would at least tell us whether SE tried to optimize performance.
I'm not highly optimistic that they did; my suspicion is that software development money for the X2 when into making the facade more slick, at the expense of optimizing performance. The camera issues seem to be case in point.
royalbloodvi said:
Camera is the same as X1, laggy, blurry.
Tried infinite focus, macro, twiddled all the settings.
Very disappointed, actually I would say no difference in quality as X1.
Autofocus function just seems useless, cant even take medium to close quality pictures of anything.
X2 maybe 8.1 megapixels, but to me its just a number after testing it out.
I can come to one conclusion, image quality output are the same as X1..
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This is very bad news. Besides the Megapixel count, X2's camera seemed to have better lens than X1, and supposedly they've made a good camera on the Satio...
Please let us know if you get around this somehow or have a different judgment after some use...
Honsetly for the price of the X1 and X2 are phones should of came with cyber shot with are cameras.
From GSMArena preview:
"The image quality is surprisingly good for a prototype - we are quite convinced that the XPERIA X2 will be equal or even better than the one of Sony Ericsson C905 Cyber-shot. All the colors are accurate, there's no over-sharpening or purple fringing, white balance is adequate, the resolved detail is pretty enough with foliage looking especially good. It's only that we believe the resolved detail could be somewhat better and we guess that Sony Ericsson will work a bit more on this until the release."
So where is the problem...?
Problem is he has the latest X2 and says the camera is as bad as any HTC's (X1), which are normally quite bad, as my Kaiser's...
We (I, at least) were expecting a Cybershot/Nokia/Satio like quality, which unfortunately does not seem to be the case. From your posts I assume you are buying the X2 as soon as it gets out in Poland in the 18th. Just hope you have a better experience(and please inform us, post some pics etc)... I am very willing to buy the X2, but a bad camera can be a deal breaker for me.
Some photos, that i shoot with xperia x2
sony-ericsson.ru/forums2/index.php?showtopic=57604
You can see it at the end of the page.
The camera is realy good.
mbernstein said:
I am very willing to buy the X2, but a bad camera can be a deal breaker for me.
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Yeah, I don't get why no one can put a semi-decent camera in a WM phone. Actually, the X1's is good but they did not optimize the software. If motorola continues including good quality cameras (like apparently the Droid and maybe here), I'm tempted to cross over.
mbernstein said:
Problem is he has the latest X2 and says the camera is as bad as any HTC's (X1), which are normally quite bad, as my Kaiser's...
We (I, at least) were expecting a Cybershot/Nokia/Satio like quality, which unfortunately does not seem to be the case. From your posts I assume you are buying the X2 as soon as it gets out in Poland in the 18th. Just hope you have a better experience(and please inform us, post some pics etc)... I am very willing to buy the X2, but a bad camera can be a deal breaker for me.
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Well I won't buy that on 18th just because of lack of cash
But hopefully soon after!
And yes, will report than!
ru.ego said:
Some photos, that i shoot with xperia x2
sony-ericsson.ru/forums2/index.php?showtopic=57604
The camera is realy good.
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great report from X2 there, thanks!
ru.ego said:
Some photos, that i shoot with xperia x2
sony-ericsson.ru/forums2/index.php?showtopic=57604
You can see it at the end of the page.
The camera is realy good.
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Thanks. Google translations is sometimes difficult, but seems to be a pretty nice review, nice screen captures. Some photos are nice. I hope people post more so we can keep checking. Thanks.
ring-bearer,
sk tools benchmark results (pre-realize firmware R1AD002)
Integer;268.3021;Moves/25 usec
Floating point;7.322;MWIPS
RAM access;548;Speed index
Draw bitmaps;780;Speed index
Main storage (write);1535.62;KB/sec
Main storage (read);7119.35;KB/sec
Storage Card (write); 980.53;KB/sec
Storage Card (read);1123.83;KB/sec
File List;1344;Items/s
FL: Storage Card;728;Items/s
SKTools loading;4048;ms
it would be very interesting, to see the official (R1AA-097) firmware values.
Hey folks!
I´m one of the most enthusiastic Streak user within us (coming from an HD2 ) and I´m loving my new phone...
BUT: As all of you surely know, the camera is a not-so-funny-joke compared to phones like the HD2. So after many months where nobody has talked about this, my question is: What are your solutions/workaraounds for better pictures?
I´ve just tried the obvious: camera360 & MagicHour. But no, it doesn´t make it much better.
Last but not least: Is there some hope e.g. for getting some better drivers? Hope dies last, I´m praying for some very kind devs with similar intentions
Hmmm everyone knows the Streak's camera is no great and I think this has to do with the camera module itself. Look at HTC's camera, they mostly suck especially in low light conditions and in video recording at night - till now even if there is a great amount of developpers working on htc phones, no one has successfully modded them. And to tell you the truth, considering that the Streak is not that popular for modders, chances are really really weak that someone will work on it.
I think Sony Ericsson X10/Arc/N8/Infuse/Mytouch4G Slide are among the best camera phone if I'm not mistaken.
Final5k said:
Hmmm everyone knows the Streak's camera is no great and I think this has to do with the camera module itself. Look at HTC's camera, they mostly suck especially in low light conditions and in video recording at night - till now even if there is a great amount of developpers working on htc phones, no one has successfully modded them. And to tell you the truth, considering that the Streak is not that popular for modders, chances are really really weak that someone will work on it.
I think Sony Ericsson X10/Arc/N8/Infuse/Mytouch4G Slide are among the best camera phone if I'm not mistaken.
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i also agree. sony ericsson and nokia always best in camera. i also own a streak 5. but my old nokia 6600 slide is 10times better quality photo thn streak though its only 3.2 MP.
I find the Streak's camera is perfect for quick shots, but prefer using my three-year old digital camera since its CCD sensor is larger than the one in the Streak.
With Camera360, the photos come out with a quality more pleasing to the eyes than the stock camera. It's ok to take photos if you are not picky about quality but don't expect jaw-dropping photos!
My fav camera phone goes definitely to the Nokia N8 and Sony Satio/X10 - they maybe a bit old, but when you take photos or videos, you can show them to everyone since the quality is high above than most smartphones!
I use a proper camera if I want to take proper photographs, the Streak is handy for the odd snapshot but it's a phone/tablet device, not a camera.
Yeah, my solution to poor phone cameras is to not use them. If the Streak didn't have a camera I wouldn't miss it.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA Premium App
try lg camera port.. work better than the original... thats "better", it doesnt work miracles though
djscopesofm said:
try lg camera port.. work better than the original... thats "better", it doesnt work miracles though
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May I ask you which LG port you mean? The one from this thread?
not 100% but that might be it
Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.
Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.
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Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.
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I don't think he's specifically talking about the specs of the phone, just that the camera still sucks.
Sent from my D5803 using XDA Free mobile app
But I can't think of any <5" phone that can compete camera-wise (except the iPhone 6S)?
And I think we should wait for more photo samples to appear before we take final judgement. Most of these early photo samples are using non-final software.
Here's a review that says the camera is the best in class:
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ria-z5-compact-review-best-smaller-smartphone
Hate to point out the obvious but every new phone that comes is an incremental improvement over its predecessor. Look at the iPhone, people(fools) queue for hours to be first to get the new model with 10% faster cpu, 10% bigger screen, 10% more pixels on the cmos sensor, and 20% less battery power. How i chuckle when i see iphone 6 owners, like junkies desperately looking for their next power fix! But, i digress.
A jack of all trades is a master of none. It is after all, a phone. It is not meant to be a world class, low light camera. My first camera phone was 0.3megapix. I thought it was pretty damn cool to have a camera at all. People just take it for granted nowadays. You want good low light photos, buy a camera. You know, them things you cant make phone calls on!
RiTCHiE007 said:
Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.
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The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.
kitch9 said:
The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.
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Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
RiTCHiE007 said:
Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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Ok bro....
You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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kitch9 said:
Ok bro....
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Brothers love, eey?
RiTCHiE007 said:
Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.
wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?
willumpie82 said:
wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?
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its not flaming its the truth but some just cant handle it.
bubimir13 said:
I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.
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Yes the camera on the z3c was worse then on the z5c but when you look at the pictures taken with a z5c you will see blurry edges and its almost impossible to make awesome macro shots. So even tho this camera is a bit better it still cant mess with other high ends like note 5 or LG g4 that also uses a sony sensor so thats why i think this z5c is kinda a joke. But if sony doesn't fix all these problems like laggy OS then this will be my last sony phone.
If you really think the performance is as bad as you say you should properly try another vendor! In my experience, they are at least as bad and some a lot worse..
Honestly, I would prefer a smaller Nexus, and might even go for the 5X despite the size.. Nexus device are best in performance (os lag eg), the rest are catching up lately!
You do know that the standard resolution in the app is set to 8M, right?.. I did read its better at that res, but you should maybe try and change it, it goes up to 23 you know..
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supercakefish said:
You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.
RiTCHiE007 said:
Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.
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Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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supercakefish said:
Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?
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No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?
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Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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supercakefish said:
Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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Yea guess the color has nothing to do with is then because lots of white one's have the most problems it seems.