OK, I may have missed something along the way, but I remember months ago every one was saying the Shift can not go to Portrait.
However, I was playing around with plug ins, trying to find something that makes the WM side more usable for me and I found the HTC Home Plugin Version 2.1 at:
http://www.pocketemu.com/downloads19.html
(this is one of two of the available downloads, I only used this one)
One of the tab buttons takes you a launcher, which includes the ability to change Portait to Landscape. So I tried it and WOW it worked.
Of course the computer thinks it is currently in Portrait, so when I hit the button I was actually telling it to go to Landscape, but we can not all be perfect.
Of course, the above call be obvious to everyone else who has been paying more attention.
It's well known that the WM can switch to portrait from landscape. I use Quick Menu and it works very well.
The issue is getting Vista to switch between portrait and landscape.
Regards,
Dave
Mobipocket Reader switches WM mode
foxmeister said:
It's well known that the WM can switch to portrait from landscape. I use Quick Menu and it works very well.
The issue is getting Vista to switch between portrait and landscape.
Regards,
Dave
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To avoid installing other apps, you use can use mobipocket reader for pocketpc both to read ebooks as well as switch the display orientation. switch the orientation within mobipocket, exit the reader, and voila - wm6 stays switched and rotated.
One other thing on mobipocket is that in full screen mode, tapping on top rightor top left corners (bottom right and bottom left works also) turns the page forward or back without requiring hotkeys to be pressed. Very nice. If you tap too close to the top it gets you out of fullscreen and shows the menu again.
On the vista side its still no joy :-(
The portrait orientation works well under Windows XP (and probably under Vista too), but only for 480x800 resolution. For 600x1024 it does not downscale.
To change between 800x480 and 480x800 (landscape and portrait), you can use iRotate tray utility for example.
Hi, have the 1.48 rom installed and when using Opera 9.7, pinching to zoom seems to move the page to a random place (hope that makes sense).
For example, when trying to zoom into the pages 1,2,3 of a forum so that I can select the next page, I zoom in but end up looking at a different part of the page. I've tried changing the way I pinch, i.e. up and down, rather than diaganally, but to no avail. Not sure if anyone here has the same problem, or whether its just when viewing xda pages?
Thanks.
It's because the page is reformatted to fit the screen width, after you've zoomed in. So you are actually looking at where you zoomed into, but the content is now in a different place. If you notice, it works perfectly on images (images opened directly, not within a web page) but appears to jump when you zoom on text.
Hope that makes sense.
Yes, it's not a bug, it's because of Opera's text reflow feature. The page will always jump to the left when you zooom in/out if there's text (yeah that sucks!).
But there's actually a pinch-zoom bug on the HD2 related to the native winmo apps (File Explorer, etc..). The fuction suddenly disappears after a while and is only brought back by a soft reset : http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/12/26/6-bugs-that-htc-has-to-fix-on-the-hd2/
Thanks for the quick replies guys.
Thought it was me and my sausage fingers
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
This is worse and worse as you try to zoom in a lot on a small area, typically in XDA forums if trying to zoom in a lot on the tiny page links at the bottom right of the page " First < 1 2 3 ... Last >" to display them big enough to easily click them with the finger or thumb, I have to pinch to zoom, then scroll a lot to recenter them, then pinch to zoom again, then scroll again to center again, to finally be able to click the link !
I think that Opera Mobile should keep the screen centered on the spot where the pinch to zoom was executed !
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
This is worse and worse as you try to zoom in a lot on a small area, typically in XDA forums if trying to zoom in a lot on the tiny page links at the bottom right of the page " First < 1 2 3 ... Last >" to display them big enough to easily click them with the finger or thumb, I have to pinch to zoom, then scroll a lot to recenter them, then pinch to zoom again, then scroll again to center again, to finally be able to click the link !
I think that Opera Mobile should keep the screen centered on the spot where the pinch to zoom was executed !
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It is possible but awkward like you say. I find that if you put your thumb at the bottom of the screen and move up with you index finger (so move only one finger) it recentres better than moving both fingers.
I also get huge fonts (set on "Small") eg http://m.google.com/calendar
sometimes text do not reflow to fit screen.
sometimes clicking on links don't work, no response, BUT zoomin/out works.
weird shtuff
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I find that if you put your thumb at the bottom of the screen and move up with you index finger (so move only one finger) it recentres better than moving both fingers.
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I only partially agree
I also noticed that if you do it this way it would center a little bit better as you somewhat keep the screen anchored with your thumb and because you remove the risk of inadvertently scroll a little the text while pinch to zooming or when you remove your fingers off the screen.
Yet if you zoom a lot as for clicking on the damned "< 1 2 3 ... Last>" links it definitely s*cks ! You can see that the text is ok before opera re-render and reflow the text then the text run away
I certainly wouldn't call this a major problem, all it takes is scrolling a little after zooming in, and it's definitely much better than having no reflow - I tried Safari on my wife's iPhone, and it's much more painful.
I agree ...
- it's definitely better than no reflow or no pinch to zoom at all
- it's probably better than iPhone (never gone to the dark side of the force )
but
- if would be definitely better if Opera remembered the position of the center spot of pinch to zoom and then recenter itself there
For most of the links as a word or a sentence underlined or an image link it is OK ... but for the really small links as the <1 2 3 ... Last> ones below it just a pain (maybe you have less chubby fat fingers than me )
Just sticking my oar in, but from an experienced developer's point of view, what you are asking for is a COMPLETE nightmare to develop!
You're actually saying that you want Opera to remember what text is at the centre point of your pinch-to-zoom action, and then find it, after text re-flow, and center it on the page again.
This is ridiculously difficult.
Open an image in Opera and you'll see that it does actually center on where you pinch, but that's obviously because there's no text re-flow in the case of an image. (Incidentally, I mean an image, and not a page with an image on it. The URL should end with an image extension, such as .jpg, .png etc..)
I'm not saying you're all wingers or anything like that, as I too would love this to work in the way you all say you want. I'm just adding a bit of perspective.
I agree it is difficult ... yet not more that rendering the web pages or doing the text reflow itself ! Don't get me wrong, I respect the great job done by opera software ... yet they can do better
Opera is a browser coded from scratch, all the rendering is under opera software developers control. It is not like they are using some memo or third party component to do the reflow and have no control over how it draws itself. They render all the code word by word, letter by letter, pixel by pixel, where they decide to render it. So I suppose they can tag a word or link that will be the center, then do the text reflow, then center back at the right place.
Yet I would also appreciate a simple workaround : a timeout of 1 or 2 seconds to wait after pinch to zoom before the text reflow is done. This way I can zoom my link and click it before it runs away
I usually just double tap because of this. It still works best.
I am 100% in agreement with you. I just bought my wife a iPhone 3gs and I love using safari. I think its a great browser because its very smooth and easy to use. The pinch to zoom feature is very nice I can zoom exactly where I need to go with very little effort. I just received my HD2 Telstra yesterday and have to say that Opera is really bad and not as responsive. I have spent the last couple of hours trying to find a safari like browser with no luck. Lets hope that with wm7 IE gets a little closer to Apples implementation of a browser.
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
This is worse and worse as you try to zoom in a lot on a small area, typically in XDA forums if trying to zoom in a lot on the tiny page links at the bottom right of the page " First < 1 2 3 ... Last >" to display them big enough to easily click them with the finger or thumb, I have to pinch to zoom, then scroll a lot to recenter them, then pinch to zoom again, then scroll again to center again, to finally be able to click the link !
I think that Opera Mobile should keep the screen centered on the spot where the pinch to zoom was executed !
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Hi, might I suggest you give opera 10 beta a try , it does not have pinch and zoom which would be good for you also it does have other useful enhancements you might also like.
http://www.opera.com/mobile/
I use double tapping as well so I'm not that bothered with that.
What bothers me more thou is when I click on the link and then go back to the same page it never goes back to the same part of a website. Its soooooo annoying.
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
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This annoys the hell out of me, as well - as you say, it's particularly annoying when trying to zoom in on a very small link (like the page numbers of a thread on this forum, or the "jump to first unread message in this thread" link from the contents page).
To those who are advocating double-tapping "instead", that works fine for reading text, but it doesn't zoom in nearly far enough to allow you to click on a very small link. If you could double-tap several times to zoom in successive levels, that would be fine, but you can't - the second double-tap zooms out again. (Any way to change this?)
I downloaded office 2010 mobile and I believe IE was included or I just didn't see it before (New rom and New device HD2). I ran IE and what an improvement microsoft has made. The rendering using the zoom bar seems as nice as safari. The biggest issue again is pinch to zoom. My HD2 rocks but without pinch to zoom browser it pretty much makes it a pain.
Shasarak said:
This annoys the hell out of me, as well - as you say, it's particularly annoying when trying to zoom in on a very small link (like the page numbers of a thread on this forum, or the "jump to first unread message in this thread" link from the contents page).
To those who are advocating double-tapping "instead", that works fine for reading text, but it doesn't zoom in nearly far enough to allow you to click on a very small link. If you could double-tap several times to zoom in successive levels, that would be fine, but you can't - the second double-tap zooms out again. (Any way to change this?)
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is it possible to disable text re-flow?
ok so this is about the only major bug i have with opera ...you tap to zoom and it flys off and zooms in where you were not looking !!! and if you're zoomed in under the double tap and then try to pinch zoom a bit more to click the tiny "1,2,3...last" on forum links it will fly off again....im forever having to try and find where i was on a page ...soooooooooooo annoying !
how do we fix this ??
how about this for annoying....i am reading a post and the screen locks. i unlock and the browser jumps to the top agsin!
try iris 1.1.9 web browser.. its like safari with webkits support except it was bought by RIM blackberry before it even finetune itself ...non the less it works
I also hope this issue gets resolved. Pinch to zoom doesn't center where I actually zoom in.
Is there a way to get the browser to fully zoom out a webpage? It always seems to be partially zoomed in, even when with pinch and zoom i cant get the browser to display the entire width of the webpage.
Somewhere early in the *Leo Hints & Tips* sticky there's a way to enable single finger zooming in Opera, which adds a zoom bar across the bottom of the screen.
i may be wrong, but on some web pages I've been on a quick double tap anywhere on the page has zoomed it out to it's fullest extent.
Yorkshire Yellow said:
Somewhere early in the *Leo Hints & Tips* sticky there's a way to enable single finger zooming in Opera, which adds a zoom bar across the bottom of the screen.
i may be wrong, but on some web pages I've been on a quick double tap anywhere on the page has zoomed it out to it's fullest extent.
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thanks ill give it a shot
Opera Mobile 10.1 for Android was released on the Market today.
Works on the Tab and seems pretty good so far - however on my Tab it won't start in portrait mode. If you have the same problem, switch to landscape and you'll be fine. Once it's loaded, you can switch back to portrait.
Regards,
Dave
Oh, I didn't try landscape mode ! Thanks for the tip (off to re-install the app now...)
EDIT: it worked. However I find the font spacing/kerning excessive, the blurry text transitions whilst zooming are highly distracting, and the small text size + lack of adaptive layout rendering (column width auto resizing) means that I am promptly uninstalling Opera now (on the plus side, it loads pages pretty quick...albeit without any Flash capabilities as far as I can tell). Dolphin HD and xScope remains my favorite web browsers, by a long way.
Yep, no flash, few settings, no text wrapping, dodgy Java rendering... a dissapointing beta.
crashed on startup
It just crashes on startup here.
Have you tried switching to landscape before starting Opera as I said in my original post?
Regards,
Dave
Another Tip:
Type "opera:config" in the address bar to access advanced settings for this browser.
I'm currently working on increasing the display cache as it scrolling around shows too many squares...
I want to see if I can reduce that...