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Does someone know if navigon 4 works great on the magician ?
Can we receive some feedback from users that have tried it ?
Thanks.
I have used it and it works fine although personally I prefer TomTom
yaaah
I have the same problem with Navigon 4.2 when I connect it to a bluetooth GPS,
I'm tryed with so many options but not yet, nothing at all, IT DOSN'T WORK WITH THE BLOODY BLUETOOTH GPS, unless I find I a way out to change the bluetooth setting there,
I hope anybody can advise...
regards
Navigon works fine with my BT GPS. No problem at all.
TO jacoh.
Did you mean it is working with the imate jam (magician)?
if yes,
did you pair the bluetooth gps with com5 (as outbound)?
then normal setting of navigon,
then work fine (it is not finding the bt gps at all) where other small navigation software finds it and work with but not the navigon,
ANY SPECIAL STEP YOU DID TO LET IT WORK OR WHAT?
please advise!
thanx in advance
maybe you should call the Navigon software vendor and ask why it does not work.
unless you did not bought the software of course, but you certainly are not a f**king hacker are you?
Yes. It is working with iMate Jam (well it's a Qtek S100 with french OS). Com5 in Navigon settings. GPS is an emtac. No problem. Most of the time, problems come from BT pairing. Does your GPS receiver comes with a test application (emtac provides one for example)?
to mms72 :
i've read that the 4.2 doesn't work. Only the 4.01 does.
to jacoch :
Is it slooow or not ?
for example, when you don't follow the route, how long does it take to recalculate a new one (big delay or not) ?
thanks.
I've heard poeple in France saying it's quite slow to recalculate and almost unusable in cities. I have no problem on my side. It takes 1-2s to recalculate. But it seems to depend on the map density. I live in switzerland in a small city and the maps are probably simpler than the map of Paris or London.
Hi all,
I spend a lot of time to get MN4.2 working reliable. It depends on the protocol that your GPS is working with. As default for my RBT1000 was
GGA=1, GSA=1, GSV=5 RMC=1,GLL=0 and VTG=0. With this configuration the bluetooth connection will lost from time to time.
Now i have changed the protocol to GGA=1 and VTG=1. This combination works perfect for me. In some case (depends on your hardware) you need
GSA=1 also,
\\Yoshi
thank you yoshi:
simple and small question:
How to change those protocls :roll: in my imate jam..
Hi,
It depends on your mouse how to change the protocolls.
In my case the mouse came with a special software to change the protokoll. You can also some special tools for that for example:
winfast navigator.
\\Yoshi
thank you for the advice Yoshi
thank you Yoshi,
it (MN4.2) finaly worked with Holux GR-230 Bluetooth GPS after I changed some protocls (((( BuT )))) not stable , it works like 2 sec's on and 4 sec's off in finding the GPS Signal and I'm still trying to play with protocls to find the best combinations...
:evil: :evil: :evil: still fighting with it... :evil: :evil: :evil:
regards,
MN4.2 working great on my MDA compact with Fortuna Bluetooth GPS.
Mapfile > 330 MB! on 1 GB SD-Card.
Waiting for my 2GB Card to put the whole European map file on it.
Excellent product!
Just purchased MN4.2 with Navigon's GPS receiver. Their own receiver is great because it has TMC reception for traffic updates.
The software runs really well, routes are very fast calculated, no problems at all.
I think this software is really nice, all completely usable without stylus using the d-pad, it might look less appealing than TomTom, but it is way more sophisticated, and the maps are much better quality.
On their website they offer a very attractive upgrade price from any competitive product.
Only issue I noticed so far is that when I miss a turn it is sometimes very fast in giving me another route, and sometimes it is slower, don't know why, but always acceptable.
The only problem is with voice guidance, as it sometimes speaks too late. Particularly when there are turnings one after the other (very close, say 20m), then the voice guidance is a bit slow. It is ok if I am driving slowly, otherwise it speaks too late.
Having a glimpse at the map display clarifies any doubt, so no big issue.
The software is also extremely stable, you can open and close hundreds times without any problem. In my case, everything is installed on SD Card.
For the bluetooth, I first paired using the OS bluetooth config screen, and then I opened MN4, and gave COM5 as the bluetooth port. If it doesn't work, you should restart the program after switching off and on the receiver.
By the way, I live in London.
When I will have more experience with the product, I'll post further impressions.
First time buyer of GPS unit and I need help choosing the right one. Thanks.
Btw, has to work in the UK.
I wouldn't dare say flawless , but the last 2 times i went to GB i didnt experience any problems with my current GPS receiver which is the
Rikaline Bluetooth GPS receiver 6033
this model is generally 20-30euros more expensive than the standard ones but it uses an advanced chipset to even get fixes in buildings and tunnels and can maintain more connections at once.
Manufacturers Site
Cheap one from www.mobilefun.co.uk
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/8590.htm
£40! and works a treat.
Probably not as good as the Rikaline or the Holux 236 which is by far the best i've tried but for they are nearly double the price
Even uses the same kind of charger as the Wizard so effectively you get a free in-car charger for you PPC thrown in.
I successfully use a generic Nemerix based GPS mouse from adapt. You can find these rather cheap GPS device in many varities (lots of OEM manufacturers) on eBay.
In conjunction with TT5.2 it works like a charm.
Any suggestions for a good light GPS to fasten in the helmet. I have plans to track my routes during mountainbike tours.
GPS...
What a topic...
I have spent some time investigating the options for me...
I am a newbie on the PPC front and I am after my first GPS set up too...
OK everyone points at TomTom as the best option...is this so?
Any feedback will be greatly received and if I do go for it, I will probably go for their bundle...
For those running TTN5 on thier Wizards, please advise the speed and any issues...many thanks...
Re: GPS...
Sunnychad said:
OK everyone points at TomTom as the best option...is this so?
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TomTom is also my #1 for road navigation.
What are the best choices for free-time navigation? Some candidates:
Pathaway, http://www.pathaway.com/pathaway3wm.htm, WM5 compatible?
OziExplorer, http://www.oziexplorer.com/
cant fault the holux 236
Nemerix
Hi,
I am using this GPS mouse (NEMERIX V3.0 Ultra Low Power Chipset). Simple installation, simple use, long battery life, cute size - my favourite!
U can get it e.g. here:
http://cgi.ebay.de/XAiOX-Bluetooth-...itemZ5848082313QQcategoryZ77359QQcmdZViewItem
Im using a BT77 Bluetooth GPS. It provides a really great signal even inside, however I have had problems with the wizard, in that I have to drop and then re-partner the device in bluetooth, everytime I want to use it, but Im currently thinking its the MS Bluetooth stack at fault and not the Device, anyone have a similar experience ?
Hi,
I already have the tomtom wired gps receiver which i use with my ipaq 2210. I know the receiver connector wont fit onto my wizard but is there any kind of adapter that will change it from ipaq to wizard (min usb i think).
cheers
Hi,
I already have the tomtom wired gps receiver which i use with my ipaq 2210. I know the receiver connector wont fit onto my wizard but is there any kind of adapter that will change it from ipaq to wizard (min usb i think).
cheers
Re: GPS...
Sunnychad said:
What a topic...
I have spent some time investigating the options for me...
I am a newbie on the PPC front and I am after my first GPS set up too...
OK everyone points at TomTom as the best option...is this so?
Any feedback will be greatly received and if I do go for it, I will probably go for their bundle...
For those running TTN5 on thier Wizards, please advise the speed and any issues...many thanks...
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hi, i am using TTN 5 on my wizard and MKIII bluetooth GPS, i have used it without any problems, but saying that i had some problems installing it.
but after i updated my to 2.1. its works a treat.
Good Luck!
ferritt said:
Hi,
I already have the tomtom wired gps receiver which i use with my ipaq 2210. I know the receiver connector wont fit onto my wizard but is there any kind of adapter that will change it from ipaq to wizard (min usb i think).
cheers
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Afraid not. Wired receivers will not work on Wizard/K-Jam etc.. full stop. you need to get a BT GPS receiver.
I picked a cheap one up from www.mobilefun.co.uk for £40 and works a treat. 5 fixes even in car glove box
The Tomtom Bt Gps is the easiest one to connect to the wizard, other brands u may need to set comm ports in Tomtom navigator.
So far I tested Holux SIRF3, Tomtom MK2, Leadtek sirf3, all were working fine.
my Tomtom MKIII works perfectly with Wiz.
I'm using a BT880 picked up on ebay (new) for £30.
Works fine with my qtek (imate rom) and tomtom5.
I know people with a pda with GPS receiver built in, like the Yakumo or the Mio168. It's great that you don't have to bother with charging a bluetooth adaptor or getting connection and it's more compact.
http://www.pdashop.nl/product/11712
At the back you have a small metal plate that you can turn up as the gps receiver.
It would be great, an XDAIIi like PDA Phone including an integrated gps receiver and wifi! The receiver is above at the back (where the lens of the xdaIIi is), i would gladly give up the camera with poor quality for this built in receiver. I just downloaded pugs camera rom update with better cam, but nothing compares a real cam with flash. So better off with a built in gps receiver I find.
I wonder if there are any PDA phones like the XDAIIi with wifi & gps receiver integrated yet? Maybe a new future Qtek? Would be great!
This would be the only pda phone wich I would give up my xdaIIi.
Anyone knows this dream pda-phone exists?
Answer
Its coming up!
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/Recensioni/Pocket-PC/Recensione-Qtek-G100-(HTC-Gala/
Wrong answer no GSM integrated!
You've got it wrong mate, it had no GSM
I mean a XDAIIi like with built in GPS.
So PDA+GSM+BUILT IN WIFI+BUILT IN GPS
This one isn't in the range of PDA Phones, it's just a PDA with built in GPS and wifi. My friends have a Mio & Yakumo also just PDA with GPS without phone pity enough. So still no all in one solution.
XDAIIi still comes closest exept for the external GPS receiver.
Re: Wrong answer no GSM integrated!
Innovator said:
You've got it wrong mate, it had no GSM
I mean a XDAIIi like with built in GPS.
So PDA+GSM+BUILT IN WIFI+BUILT IN GPS
This one isn't in the range of PDA Phones, it's just a PDA with built in GPS and wifi. My friends have a Mio & Yakumo also just PDA with GPS without phone pity enough. So still no all in one solution.
XDAIIi still comes closest exept for the external GPS receiver.
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Sorry m8 my mistake!! You´re so right! I know the MIO168 - MIO is making A701 version with GSM, GPS, PDA but still without WiFi.
http://www.mio-tech.be/press_center/press/press_new_products_09_05_en.asp
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6111.html
http://www.supergps.co.uk/mio-a701-integrated-gps-handheld-mobile-pc-p-375.html
http://www.clove.co.uk/products/products.asp?strAreaNo=400_1_13&intElement=26657
No Wifi integrated still not satisfied
Yeah but still no wifi included
I worked with SDIO Wifi cards in past on XDAII but don't like them, better everything integrated, more compact & less trouble.
I hope very soon a release of a PDA with GSM GPS WIFI integrated.
They may keep their cams bad quality, never use it.
They I will put my xdaIIi on ebay
What about something like ETEN G500 ?
Don't see wifi specifications ?
Hi,
Thanks for the tip, but no wiifi integrated is not interested for me
Maybe i'll have to wait for the new qtek
Regards,
Innovator
Hi,
I was wondering what would be the best alternative solution for GPS for Hermes. So far I have heard that the BT-338 bluetooth solution can work nicely.
Anyone else have found a better solution?
Thanks for the suggestions in advanced.
J
I use Holux M-1000, works like charm pretty easy to setup. If you not using planning to use Garmin software of course. If you do, by all mean use Garmin reciever. The proxy software is such a hassle
Thanks for the reply.
Does anyone use any other receivers?
I have used 2 different bluetooth GPS receivers - the Palm from TomTom and the one that comes with MS Streets & Trips (with a bluetooth base in lieu of the USB cable to a laptop). Both worked fine using TomTom Navigator 6. There is a bit of a hassle getting them recognized, but once done, they both function well.
GPS on Hermes
Telenav woks extremely well. The receiver is small, connects very easily to the Hermes (I have the ATT 8525 version) and the cost is reasonable.
Follow this thread post #9 onwards.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348003
Works for all WM devices on any internal or external GPS.
Enjoy.
Are you aking for the best alternative for GPS or the best GPS option?
The only alternative I know of is Google Maps 2.0 w/ cell tower based locator.
Hi People,
Until the folks here @ XDA-DEV succesfully hack their way in the Shift to get :
- SD card access
- Bluetooth Access
- Wifi Access
- optional HDD access
it's still impossible to navigate using the WinMo part of this gem.
So.. I installed Microsoft Autoroute 2007 Europe, and tried to connect a bluetooth
GPS to the HTC shift.
- paired my HUDGPS (polaris brand.. also a Heads-Up-Display for in your car!!)
- pairing tells me I got two new serial ports, an SPP and serial port (com4 and com5)
- I start autoroute, configure it to use either com4 or 5, but fails. It says that the comport might actually
already be in use, or , the other port, it says : cannot open comport.
Usually, I'm not easily defeated, so I changed the comports in the device manager to 21 and 22 to
see if I could make it work this way.
Still no joy, it even deleted all comports without my consent, and had to de-pair and re-pair (aha!)
the Bluetooth GPS to get my comports back.
Even after that, I just cannot get Microsoft Autoroute 2007 to work with the BT GPS.
I will post more info (can I use other software etc...) soon, maybe someone already tried
to install navigation stuff and has a few comments.
Also, if you still own a fossil PDA like the Kaiser, checkout http://www.reperion.com/newclient
lucid said:
Also, if you still own a fossil PDA like the Kaiser, checkout http://www.reperion.com/newclient
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i don't want to disappoint you, but the WM side of the shift is a kaiser.
I haven't tried Microsoft's GPS navigation software, mainly because they don't have the maps (even if they did, it probably would be rather outdated) for my country.
For what it's worth, I have installed both Garmin Mapsource coupled with its nRoute program, as well as MapAsia's MapKing GPS navigation programs on my Shift, paired with my GSpace GPS receiver via BT, and both programs work. I use a "third party" gateway - Franson's GPSGate - as a go between, between the GPS receiver and both software.
Works flawlessly.
lucid said:
Even after that, I just cannot get Microsoft Autoroute 2007 to work with the BT GPS.
I will post more info (can I use other software etc...) soon, maybe someone already tried
to install navigation stuff and has a few comments.
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Automapa EU works well on vista side. Cheked with Rikaline GPS 6036 - SiRF Star III SOC v2 and GPS GB735 NAVIBE both without any problems
Sygic 7.53 and Igo 8 working fine on Vista side (with usb and bt gps receiver)
How do you use Igo on Vista?
cmonex said:
i don't want to disappoint you, but the WM side of the shift is a kaiser.
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I'm not dissapointed at all I actually own a Kaiser. It was more or less a joke, badly brought, I agree
By the way, thank you people for posting about your successes, this means I'm doing something wrong. How hard can it be to pair a GPS and use it ?
I'm using MS Streets and Trips 2008 (North American equivalent to Autoroute) with a Holux GPSlim240 and it is working flawlessly. I can't remember much but didn't have any issues/quirks during set up. I've just used it a couple of times to test but not since, 'cause I have a 7in touchscreen built-in nav in my car that has traffic updates through Sirius sat radio here (no need for internet), but I still like the option of course
ah ha
finally found somebody has same problem with GPS receiver with Autoroute 2007.
but seems there isn't a clear solution for this issue.
seems like the Autoroute is the problem, i tried with GPS Viewer with Correct port it recognises the gps unit and correctly indicates cordinates.
if i can't find solution soon i will try to find another software as successful users found.
Im the starter of this post, here's the promised update !
Autoroute 2007 just WON'T work on the Shift. I tried a million different combinations of COM ports and security settings, no joy,
As soon as I try to use another GPS program like VisualGPS CE it will connect to the bluetooth receiver just fine.
My best bet is that Autoroute 2007 needs a GPS receiver that is Microsoft Compatible in contrast with the other 99% GPS programs
Will download a trial of Automapa EU now. THanks everyone.
lucid said:
Im the starter of this post, here's the promised update !
Autoroute 2007 just WON'T work on the Shift. I tried a million different combinations of COM ports and security settings, no joy,
As soon as I try to use another GPS program like VisualGPS CE it will connect to the bluetooth receiver just fine.
My best bet is that Autoroute 2007 needs a GPS receiver that is Microsoft Compatible in contrast with the other 99% GPS programs
Will download a trial of Automapa EU now. THanks everyone.
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I've got it working with the Bluetooth TomTom GPS receiver.
No problems with it.
could you share with us your port settings and , by any chance, does your GPS say it's 100% NMEA 2.0 compliant ?
a creensie of your BT Comport section would be nice
cmonex said:
i don't want to disappoint you, but the WM side of the shift is a kaiser.
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Hmmm...does this mean a Kaiser ROM could be flashed to it?
NanoRuler said:
Hmmm...does this mean a Kaiser ROM could be flashed to it?
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No, it means it is technically the same hardware (qualcomm msm7200) with different HTC PID, different aux devices, etc. So ROMs are *NOT* compatibles.