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Trade Mogul for Touch

Well after having my mogul for a year with only minor problems, it seems that it has finally gone somewhat haywire. The battery barley lasts half a day, my buttons seem to have stopped fuctioning, and I am getting tired of the limited free RAM. So I have decided to switch to the htc touch because it is not a necesity for me to have wi fi or a keyboard. Only thing I am going to truly miss is the flash on the camera, it was such a great flashlight. But anyway, does anyone know if it is possible for me to trade my mogul for a touch, instead of a new mogul, I have the Total Equipment Protection plan, and the price of the touch is considerably lower than the mogul (the price of the touch was recently changed to 99$ after instant savings and rebates). So does anyone know if it is possible to do so.
Thanks
BTW I am on Sprint.

Why not wait until the Diamond comes out? Much much better device.

I know that the diamond is better, but I really can not wait for it because the battery life has recently become so bad that I need to get it replaced. Honestly up until my batter stopped lasting a full day I was ok with the mogul, but now I really either need to get the battery back to normal, or switch to the touch. Any ideas would be helpful. The battery life change may have been caused by my completley killing the battery and fully chargin it twice, or my installation of pointui home.

I can't help you with the swap, but if it's the battery that's the issue...Ebay!

I agree, just get a new battery. I got the 1650mah OEM-size battery after using a year old stock battery, and noticed a huge difference.
I doubt Sprint would let you swap for free, so if given the choice of buying a Touch or waiting for the Diamond/Touch Pro, I would definitely wait.

about how much does it cost to get a larger capacity battery that does not make the device bigger?

Dude honestly, there are so many awesome phones coming out so soon and you don't want to end up getting a new phone that's already outdated. I say wait and just buy a new battery for now. That's how I feel right now.

check out www.seidioonline.com and select the 1650 mah battery, it's the same size as the stock one so it fits under the factory cover. Mugen puts out a stock sized 1800 mah battery and that's about 49.99.
I agree with everyone else - if it's the battery just get a new one and then the Diamond when it releases if you need a new phone.
Good Luck

killerkhatiby009 said:
about how much does it cost to get a larger capacity battery that does not make the device bigger?
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I decided not to get a high capacity battery because I keep my phone in my pocket. The bulge from the hi capacity would just look awkward. So I chose to buy an external battery charger and a spare battery.
This is exactly what I bought. I love it! It comes with a spare battery for under $20 shipped. Later on, if you decide you want another battery to add to the mix, then it shouldn't be a problem. I have two of these set up. One at work, and one at home.

hindjew1 said:
I decided not to get a high capacity battery because I keep my phone in my pocket. The bulge from the hi capacity would just look awkward. So I chose to buy an external battery charger and a spare battery.
This is exactly what I bought. I love it! It comes with a spare battery for under $20 shipped. Later on, if you decide you want another battery to add to the mix, then it shouldn't be a problem. I have two of these set up. One at work, and one at home.
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How do you like your charger and extra battery (after a month of use)? I'm considering one... can't beat it for less than $20.

Splitter said:
How do you like your charger and extra battery (after a month of use)? I'm considering one... can't beat it for less than $20.
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it should be noted the extra battery in that auction appears to be an 1100mah model, which is significantly smaller than stock (although it shoudl be plenty to keep the phone going while you charge up the stock battery)

If you have the TEP with Sprint, just go in to your local Sprint store, and tell them your battery is going bad. They should give you another. i ended up with 3 batteries for my 6700, for that very reason. Knock on wood my Mogul battery is still holding strong.
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htc rafael 2400 or mugen 3000 battery for fuze?

The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?

Mugen 3000mAh
I'll bite; I sprung for the Mugen 3000mAh battery. I think it's great (it comes with it's own battery cover, and admittedly does make the phone significantly more bulky).
I'm not a typical user even for these forums. I routinely tether my laptop to my phone via bluetooth for laptop internet access (two thumbs up for unlimited data plans) and I actually get quite usable speeds (I'm using that setup right now). Plus, I can send and receive calls at the same time. Also, I've got two accounts in the Pocket Outlook, and I've got Flexmail 4 with about 6 or 7 email accounts that sync throughout the day. In addition to that, I use spreadsheets and word documents on it as well as voice calls. So, frankly, I'll take all the power I can get!
When I take it to the gym, I use my Seideio (sp?) 2000mAh battery because it's a lot slimmer and does great with by bluetooth headphones (and I use it as an mp3 player; I'm not one of those types that talks on their phone the entire time they're supposed to be "working out"!).
So if you have to have all the power you can get, like I do, it's not that big of a sacrifice in size for the extra 600mAh. It does make a difference late in the day. Just my $0.02 though.

Good stuff BPB21.
What kind of case do you use for the 3000, if any at all?
Thanks for your help.

Cases
That's an interesting question. Typically I just keep it in my coat pocket at work, or pants pocket otherwise without a case. I've got one of those "Invisible Shield" screen protectors that has protected it even from my cat's claws (touch screen wasn't meant for cats, but no harm done). So typically I don't use a case.
However, I was just looking for some kind of waterproof case, I mean completely waterproof, for when I potentially go rafting and/or rock climbing. I can't vouch for any yet, but I've heard good things about the "Otterbox" cases. I don't plan on actually using the device while in the water of course, but it might be necessary to keep it with me. I'm kinda compulsive about that with my phones. So, as for cases, that remains to be seen. I think the Seidio 2000mAh battery would fit most anything (I don't know about the 2400mAh, but I'm sure I'll own one soon) as it really doesn't add much size at all to the phone. As for the Mugen 3000 mAh, well, I don't know what that would fit in. That battery and case make the phone a total of one inch thick the entire length of the phone. The Seidio battery and cover only add about 1/8th inch thickness in a 1&1/2" width and 1&1/4th" length on the back of the phone.
Anyway, if I find something good I'll post here; but for everyday use just the screen protector works well enough for me.

IF anyone has any suggestions for this battery and a case, i'd be grateful and interested as well. the stock cover that comes from mugen is crap with a capital C. it keeps sliding off.

I 2nd that...
This is true; it is really easy to knock the Mugen cover off. The one saving grace about that cover's design is that even if the cover comes loose you don't necessarily take the battery with it (at least in my experience). I would be interested if anyone can find a cover that fits the 3000 mAh battery. (I mean, other than the submersible Otterbox cases - those fit, but you can't really use the device...)

The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.

Otterbox
dougalls said:
The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.
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I've actually taken the phone skiing (well, I didn't buy it a lift ticket or anything). It was in my ski jacket pocket (and I tend to do runs more advanced than I am) and despite my sometimes dramatic falls the phone held up well. So it's a pretty durable device, but I wouldn't do that every day with it.
Speaking of that Otterbox - I was looking at the same thing and trying to measure it from the given inside dimensions. Which way does it just barely fit: length, width, or thickness? I would think the phone would be just a bit too long for the case, but hopefully not? And then, if I had the Seidio 2000mAh battery (which adds maybe 1/8" thickness, if that) installed would that fit as well?

Otterbox 1900
Hi. I own an otterbox 1900. I´ve used it a lot with my Axim and after that with my Eten m700. I took it rafting, dirt biking on the mountains and snowboarding many times. You can charge the device while in the box, and use the device while keeping it protected by a clear rubber membrane.
The Fuze fits easy inside, but I have the stock cover and battery.

Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I bought one, I have it and it makes your phone look like a brick. hey, the Battery will last days but it is just Huge.

Big batteries
I've got the 3000mAh battery (by the way, I saw the 2400mAh battery on eBay; how does its size compare with the 3000mAh battery?). I use my phone heavily, all day. I'll connect it with my laptop via bluetooth to use internet sharing, sometimes I'll be talking on the phone at the same time, and I heavily use email on the phone, plus Word and Excel files and internet browsing, plus occassional testing and configuring of wifi routers using the phone's wifi, all on a given day. I'm not always near a charger so for me I need all the power I can get, even if it is only an extra 600mAh.
On the other hand, people routinely ask me "what is thbat?" (or more accurately, "what the hell is that?") when they see my brick of a phone. So yeah, it does make it quite bulky compared to even the 2000mAh battery. But if you're a power user and need all the extra you can get then it is worth it.

I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?

New Mugen cover
sanjsrik said:
I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.

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Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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Although it has a Sony Ericsson Emblem on it, This is the one I use and it fits perfect.
http://www.malcomwireless.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=34109&refid=froogle

Pics?
Does anyone have any pics of the Fuze with the larger capacity batteries installed?...David.

Here is a Few I just took. My Fuze has a Mugen 3000mAh Battery in it.

BPB21 said:
How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.
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Nothing is different, I am guessing that the new one they sent just didn't fall off as much. Maybe the original one sent was defective.

Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...

dpcole72 said:
I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...
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A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.

sanjsrik said:
A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.
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http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon®-Capac...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1244649963&sr=1-4

Looking for extended life battery

Any recommendations? Mine's almost 2 years old and its showing, having trouble making it through the day. Not interested inhaving to deal with a spare! I know there are a lot of these threads, but just wanted to make my own. I intend to buy one and then report my progress with it. I heard those EVO chichitech batteries were good but didn't fit well?
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I use the the Mugen Power 3600mAh. The battery lasts long, how long I don't know exactly. I usually charge the phone every other day.
My guess is that 4 days would be OK before charging. I use a lot of 3G and wireless for surfing the Internet. Email, calendar of course.
The battery cover is made of rather cheap plastic and I was worried the hinges would break of as they did on my previous battery which was some other manufacturer (2700mAh?). This hasn't happened, seems like the cover is sturdy enough but could be made of much better material considering the price.
I recommend this battery.

Thanks! Anyone have a recommendation for one that fits in the stock battery door?

captainreynolds said:
Thanks! Anyone have a recommendation for one that fits in the stock battery door?
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I recommend the HTC OEM EVO 4G Design battery, It fits perfect in our devices w/o any modifying or trimming. It's a whopping 1520mah compared to the 1300mah that comes with stock devices !
http://www.shopandroid.com/htc-1520mah-standard-battery/8A37A9232.htm

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Thanks! Anyone have a recommendation for one that fits in the stock battery door?
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1900mah and $6 shipped.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380371704839?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Looking for a legit replacement battery

I've been through every listing on amazon and eBay... They all look like cheap knockoffs. I'd like to swap out the battery but don't want to go through the hassle to put a piece of crap in there.
Anyone ordered one and had it turn out to work well?

I've been thinking about buying this one.

I agree that repairsuniverse appears to be the best bet when it comes to OEM quality. I'll be buying one from there in the next week, so I can let you know after that. My original battery got a little distorted when I replaced my screen. It's glued down very well!
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Restola said:
I've been through every listing on amazon and eBay... They all look like cheap knockoffs. I'd like to swap out the battery but don't want to go through the hassle to put a piece of crap in there.
Anyone ordered one and had it turn out to work well?
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Ok, I have been on this quest for over a year. I have tried almost every source out there including some more expensive ones from a company (Empire Scientific) that has a good reputation. However as these all come from overseas most are "flat pack" form factor and are actually 2000 mah cells (not OEM 2900-3000). I have equipment to actually test the cell's capacity and have yet to find a "NEW OEM REPLACEMENT" that weighs the same as the original factory or tests more than 2500mAh. In fact, only one ever tested to 2300 mAh and that was just a very high grade 2000mAh rated cell that I lucked into being over spec. Since LG has not had the G2 battery (BL-T7) made since late 2014, if you see a battery with a later date claiming to be OEM is is a lie. The best you can hope for is an unused 2014 new old stock cell. I have purchased 4 of these batteries from a vendor on ebay and all appear and test to be as advertised (new old stock OEM). The weight is correct, the form factor correct (raised prism on top of cell) and so far all have tested to 95% original minimum capacity (2900mAh) on a Cadex 5100B analyzer. YMMV but I have been happily replacing all the used cells in all the G2's my family owns (4 of them). Also, if you buy a cheap knockoff cell, check the weight and if it has the "plateau" on the top of the pack, look for a foil seem. I have unwrapped a lot of these cells only to find a small square piece of plastic wrapped to the top of a cheap flat cell to make it "LOOK" like the OEM battery.
Link to the ones I found and have personally purchased from and tested.
http://r.ebay.com/ADkvqq
The "location" for the ebay store should come up as Addison Texas (amazing wireless) if it doesn't something went wrong. They still showed having stock as of today. All the ones I have purchased look like original replacement stock (never installed, no glue residue or prying deformation). I have no experience with the return policy with this vendor and am not affiliated with them in any way other than as a customer (and have only purchased these batteries).
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Should I buy a 6p for $200?

Well, is it worth the risk?

It's definitely a solid phone for that price. I'd be concerned about the battery though. The battery on the Nexus 6p has issues as it ages. I had an issue with mine where it would die when the battery meter reached 25%. Google replaced it with another Nexus 6p with an even worse battery. It would die when the battery meter reached 50%. Then they replaced that one with another Nexus 6p with a new battery. (It doesn't die until the battery meter reaches 0 and I checked the battery health with AccuBattery Pro). The phone is still smooth, the camera is still decent, front facing speakers are nice, and it has a headphone jack. I think I'm going to hang onto it for another year.

You will probably need to replace the battery and it's really difficult.
I think there is no 6P with more than 12-18 months and the stock OEM battery still in good state. (With this I mean: shut down at 1% not before and original out of the box battery life or even better in Oreo).
Sent from my Pixel 2

thesebastian said:
You will probably need to replace the battery and it's really difficult.
I think there is no 6P with more than 12-18 months and the stock OEM battery still in good state. (With this I mean: shut down at 1% not before and original out of the box battery life or even better in Oreo).
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I think the phone is worth it but I will/anyone else will probably have to replace it. I am saving up to take it to a battery replacement place and it's like 80 dollars with warranty and testing.

lil_ith said:
I think the phone is worth it but I will/anyone else will probably have to replace it. I am saving up to take it to a battery replacement place and it's like 80 dollars with warranty and testing.
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I did this with my 6P. Bought a used one. Replaced the battery. And I had a fantastic phone for many months. It's still amazing phone.
Sent from my Pixel 2

thesebastian said:
I did this with my 6P. Bought a used one. Replaced the battery. And I had a fantastic phone for many months. It's still amazing phone.
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What battery would you recommend? I am trying to find one but getting very mixed reviews and no concrete stat's about them. I am getting some money soon to do so and just want to get the best battery I can.

lil_ith said:
What battery would you recommend? I am trying to find one but getting very mixed reviews and no concrete stat's about them. I am getting some money soon to do so and just want to get the best battery I can.
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I got the original Cameron sino one (that costed like 30€). Was the most expensive and the best one, a few months ago. But today I've read that it changed and it's not the same battery. It's a thinner one without temp sensor and less capacity than the original one.
So i don't know what to recommend. There is a popular thread in XDA 6P forum discussing all the batteries.
Sent from my Pixel 2

thesebastian said:
I got the original Cameron sino one (that costed like 30€). Was the most expensive and the best one, a few months ago. But today I've read that it changed and it's not the same battery. It's a thinner one without temp sensor and less capacity than the original one.
So i don't know what to recommend. There is a popular thread in XDA 6P forum discussing all the batteries.
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I've heard that the original sinos are the best. Would be good to find them again and yes I've read that thread. Just hard to find concrete proof that xxxx battery is good. But I've heard the most stories about the sinos (besides the newer ones) if you hear about a place that sells them still. Please let me know... Or if you hear anything else.

No. 6P is built like junk, worst QC of any supposed top end phone. I've had two 6P bent. Have battery issues. This forum is filled with people getting replacements. 6P is junk. Huawei are crap and their CS is even worse.
You're coming from a Nexus 6? You're going to horrified by how crappy 6P is, it feels flimsy, it feels awful, it feels low quality. It feels like they used the thinnest, cheapest AL they could find, and crappiest plastic for the bezel. Run away.

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No. 6P is built like junk, worst QC of any supposed top end phone. I've had two 6P bent. Have battery issues. This forum is filled with people getting replacements. 6P is junk. Huawei are crap and their CS is even worse.
You're coming from a Nexus 6? You're going to horrified by how crappy 6P is, it feels flimsy, it feels awful, it feels low quality. It feels like they used the thinnest, cheapest AL they could find, and crappiest plastic for the bezel. Run away.
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Switched from a N6 to a 6P this past week. Bought on through Swappa with a new battery for $220 shipped. As much as I loved my N6, the 6P is definitely NOT worse! The camera is much better, the device feels a lot faster and battery lasts longer while charging when needed is much faster.
Given all the problems current flagship generations have, I'd rather spend a LOT less money on a proven model. Just be careful where and from whom you buy! :good:

My battery is totally shot phones 15 months old it has the early shutdown problem $200 is way to much risk at this point for any used 6P.

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My battery is totally shot phones 15 months old it has the early shutdown problem $200 is way to much risk at this point for any used 6P.
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Early shut down is just because of your battery... Just need to replace it and you will be good to go again. It's still a really good device

It's really an unreliable piece of **** between the battery and bootloop issues yea it's got roms for it but who cares when the phone lasts a year.

Mine bent like a pretzel, yes those stories in the XDA mega thread were real after all. It also went on to develop the bootloop issue and required a Mainboard swap.
And finally the battery crapped out.
I wouldn't touch a Nexus 6p with a 10 foot pole at this point.
Sent from my LG-H870 using Tapatalk

Never go higher than $199

Just replaced the battery in my Nexus 6p. Bought this one https://goo.gl/jmYfn9 if you get one make sure it has the fat cable. Also be sure to get a replacement camera glass. You will most likely brake the glass. The camera glass is the only hard part about replacing the battery. Besides that it is easy and takes about 15 minutes.