Hi hardware hackers, linux freaks, gadget lovers!
There's a lot of information about the X1 electronic components floating around.
Maybe a bit late, but i thought it would be nice to collect them in one thread!
To be more specific, everything that could be found concerning the innards of the X1 should be posted here.
You may consider this thread as an attempt to lift the last secrets.
Please join and post all free available datasheets floating around in the web.
Also connector pinouts or similar technical stuff would be welcome!
Please also respect applicable law and do not post any documents covered by NDA.
I'd like to try updating this post from time to time if there are any new items.
Maybe we could also try to clear up some frequently asked questions, e.g. TV out (No there's none, and there's no hardware for it!).
O.K. here we go!
You all may know this page:
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These are the main components as a block diagram!
(Courtesy of phonewreck.com)
EDIT: The guys at ORT-forum made a good job and did further investigation on X1 debug testpoints.
See this thread:
http://www.omnia-repair.com/forum/topic/xperia
Thanks goes out to andresgsm
First datasheets:
1. Micron MCP datasheet MT29CxGxxMAxxxxx_nand_lpdram.zip (apart from package this part is identical to MT29C4G48MAPLCJA-75 used in X1)
2. Epson LCD-Controller brief datasheet S1D13774_Product_Brief_Rev_1.2.zip
Stay tuned!
scholbert
Follow ups:
3. Epson Evaluation Kit datasheet S5U13774A00C_Evaluation_Board_User_Manual_jpn_Rev_1.02.zip
(only japanese, but some schematics included)
4. SMSC USB PHY brief datasheet SMSC_3316 Brief_Datasheet_Rev.1.12.zip
Also found full datasheet of Epson controller in japanese language.
Unfortunately the upload does not work right now.
Reserve this for future updates!
and i thought that a big chunk of these hardware components were integrated inside the qc mxm7200 chip. questions:
the RAM memory and flash come from the same controller...interesting. on PCs memory normally comes from the north bridge controller and storage (flash nand here) comes from the south bridge
why is the battery showing 1150mah instead of 1500. actually i don't even know why its showing it in the first place
This is weird that the picture shows the HTC G1 battery...
Hi,
the RAM memory and flash come from the same controller...interesting
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Yes it is one component with two functions. That's why it's called MCP (Multi Chip Package). In fact this component interfaces to different parts of the MSM7200. There is certain similarity to your X86PC though the memory and interface bus are different on ARM architecture.
This is weird that the picture shows the HTC G1 battery...
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Maybe this block diagram got some wrong entries.
I'd like to use it as a starting point, because it's the only one that could be found.
Regards,
scholbert
Another one: the X1 has a mini-USB port and not a micro-USB port
Are you sure it is for X1?
may be a silly question but where is the ati graphics chip?
here is some pics that might be hand to the thread. x1 internal pics.
link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/279013775/x1_chips.pdf
"may be a silly question but where is the ati graphics chip?"
it's onchip in the qualcomm cpu it's not an extra chip
Hi,
thanks for the responses so far.
Maybe i will update the block diagram for X1. Need some time for this though
Still wasn't able to upload the Epson full datasheet...mmmh
So here's the link:
http://www.epsondevice.com/webapp/docs_ic/DownloadServlet?id=ID001935
If someone could read japanese please tell me!
Regards,
scholbert
scholbert said:
Hi,
thanks for the responses so far.
Maybe i will update the block diagram for X1. Need some time for this though
Still wasn't able to upload the Epson full datasheet...mmmh
So here's the link:
http://www.epsondevice.com/webapp/docs_ic/DownloadServlet?id=ID001935
If someone could read japanese please tell me!
Regards,
scholbert
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Hey scholbert,
nice thread you have here...
About the jtag acces I know verry little about that.
My only experience was a project trying to get a jtag connection on a experiabox which failed. And I know some about testpoints in regular se's but that is of course totally different.
I do envy you progress/ideas/efforts.
RX
Hi!
Thanks for appreciation!
My only experience was a project trying to get a jtag connection on a experiabox which failed.
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i guess you ment X-box......
Anyway tracing the JTAG testpoints would be awesome.
I would need a broken mainboard to do so
But here's another update on the hardware parts inside Xperia X1
First there's this MCU from Atmel:
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc2545.pdf
This component is mainly responsible of scanning the hardware keypad and other I/O subfunctions.
The controller has it's own microcode, the Micro-P code.
The version of this piece of firmware is also shown in bootloader mode.
Some investigation will be required about the functionality of MicroP1-787 and MicroP2-707.
If someone knows something about it, please post!
Another interesting finding was made while stepping through the SPL bootcode. I found a call to initiate the battery monitor of X1.
This little chip reports back the state of the battery and uses I2C communication protocol.
Please see attachment for the datasheet
See ya,
scholbert
hey,
No I actually mean experia box, its a branded version of the thomson ST780I which I was trying to unbrand.
but back on the topic...
Are you surprised to see it uses I2C or that you find a call in the spl?
Ill let you know when I find a x1 that serves you needs.
RX
Reversedhex said:
hey,
Are you surprised to see it uses I2C or that you find a call in the spl?
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Ha ha, indeed i'm aware that I2C is a very common protocol under the hood of our mobile devices.
I was simply surprised that the message prints the device name in true ASCII
Thanks for your help on the hardware issue!!!
Best regards,
scholbert
Mopral said:
Another one: the X1 has a mini-USB port and not a micro-USB port
Are you sure it is for X1?
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it's technicaly the same so this doesnt realy matter. micro is just smaller.
achmed20 said:
it's technicaly the same so this doesnt realy matter. micro is just smaller.
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Thanks for your comment.
In fact X1 got a mini USB with 5 contacts. So it's just a standard jack.
As soon as i'll find some time i will create an updated and more detailed block diagram and post it here.
Regards,
scholbert
TFT-unit ???
Hi!
Unfortunately no reply for my request over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580197
This would have given me the opportunity to get deeper insights.
Maybe also there's general lack of interest
Anyway maybe someone could help me out on another issue:
I did some investigation about the display unit inside X1 and you might guess that it's quite impossible to get some datasheet of this part.
If anyone may give a hint concerning the TFT-unit inside Xperia, i would be very grateful
I'm looking for part numbers on the back the unit!!
Some known and obvious facts about it:
- 3" WVGA (800x480) TFT-display
- resistive touch screen
- manufacturer Hitachi (at least Hitachi chipset)
- LED backlight
Regards,
scholbert
How about adding a digital compass and an accelerometer to X1?
scholbert said:
Ha ha, indeed i'm aware that I2C is a very common protocol under the hood of our mobile devices.
I was simply surprised that the message prints the device name in true ASCII
Thanks for your help on the hardware issue!!!
Best regards,
scholbert
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Hi Guys,
I've been looking into this for a while, and I was trying to find the i2c interface on the motherboard. I see from your finding that it is avaliable at the pins of this DS2764 chip which is I think just below the battery connectors. i2c is a simple bus that can connect multiple parallel devices. Vdd and ground are also available. So it should not be too difficult to solder 4 wires to the HMC6343-eval board from honeywell. Here is the datasheet for this compass chip:
http://www.ssec.honeywell.com/magnetic/datasheets/HMC6343.pdf
What do you guys think?
Hi drizztje!
drizztje said:
http://www.ssec.honeywell.com/magnetic/datasheets/HMC6343.pdf
What do you guys think?
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Yeah nice idea, i also spend a thought on this.
If this chip is used in another device running WM, should also no big deal to cook a ROM with the necessary drivers.
Obviously there are already some X1 ROM's that offer setup tool for the G-sensor, but without the chip there's nothing to set up
I'll try to locate the chips position.
Thanks for this great idea!
scholbert
scholbert said:
Hi drizztje!
Yeah nice idea, i also spend a thought on this.
If this chip is used in another device running WM, should also no big deal to cook a ROM with the necessary drivers.
Obviously there are already some X1 ROM's that offer setup tool for the G-sensor, but without the chip there's nothing to set up
I'll try to locate the chips position.
Thanks for this great idea!
scholbert
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I realized that the honeywell chip is a bit expensive. I think htc devices are using AK8976A, that is also a combination of compass and accelerometer. we can develop the drivers also if needed, we would just need to find out how to access the i2c bus (there is already a stream driver called I2C1:, which is implemented in oem_misc.dll i think). I couldn't find much info about the AK8976A, and noone selling it, but I sent the company an e-mail about price and availability. Let's see how it evolves. Let us know if you find more information.
How about adding a digital compass and an accelerometer to X1?
Progress status:
I wrote a passtru i2c dll yesterday that just calles the i2c functions of oem_misc.dll with some debug fprintf's in the i2c_iocontrol function. Attached is the log. I can see the read accesses to the ds2746 (slave address 0x6c). There are accesses to 2 other slaves with addresses 0xcc and 0xc0 (maybe the backlight and keyboard). It seems IOCTL_I2C_WRITE = 0x8010000c, and IOCTL_I2C_READ = 0x80100004.
I ordered an HMC5843 board from sparkfun for about 50$. It is only a compass, and about 1.3cmx1.3cm. The component itself is cheaper at digikey, but it is quite small and soldering would be difficult for me.
This link is also interesting:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:I2C_Compass
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Hello ppl,
I'm going to make a shift dissasembly guide, covering basic tips on how to dissasemble, how to upgrade various components and so on. I will include detailed pictures on how components are linked one to each other and so on.
My question is: what do you people want to see? If there are some of you who want pictures with a specific component, please reply or give me some ideas. I'll open the shift in 1-2 days so please come with suggestions.
Of course, the first 2 points on my agenda will be how to upgrade hdd and ram modules.
facdemol said:
what do you people want to see? If there are some of you who want pictures with a specific component, please reply
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Thanks
Remove the metal covers and take high quality picture of every chipset, where the model and manufacturer can be seen.
If you can identify how the touchscreen is connected (shared) between x86 and arm, that would be cool... we need to know if it is a serial or i2c bus, specially the x86 side.
facdemol said:
Hello ppl,
I'm going to make a shift dissasembly guide, covering basic tips on how to dissasemble, how to upgrade various components and so on. I will include detailed pictures on how components are linked one to each other and so on.
My question is: what do you people want to see? If there are some of you who want pictures with a specific component, please reply or give me some ideas. I'll open the shift in 1-2 days so please come with suggestions.
Of course, the first 2 points on my agenda will be how to upgrade hdd and ram modules.
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Can't wait!!!
facdemol said:
My question is: what do you people want to see? QUOTE]
Some people said that there is no connection between the SD card and SnapVUE. If SnapVUE needs to access the SC card, it may require direct soldering. I wish to see whether it is necessary or possible. Thank you.
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I've got the ideea. I've opened a lot of stuff in my life, ranging from pda's to laptops but with the shift i'm a little nervous. Most of the htc devices i've dissasembled had some pretty weird casing connections.
I will also study how the hinges work and if the slide mechanism can be upgraded. Some ppl say it could. I'm also veeerry intrested to see how the display pannel and ram are connected to the x86 side and the ppc side.
I'll get to work in about 6 hours and when I'm done i'll open a new thread with the guide and photos.
can't wait to..
Cinemo is an application I wrote to provide showtimes for movies in your area. It uses the KListControl (written by gingercat and modified by myself) to provide (hopefully) easy to use controls.
Update - Beta 2 Release 3
I have just finished testing the new build which features a reworked interface as well as a few more features including:
Lost some weight
Critics Scores from Yahoo Movies
User Scores from Yahoo Movies(when available)
View movies by theater
Better source for movie showtimes(Yahoo Movies)
Overall faster interface(I think)
-Release 2:
More reliable movie posters
Should not crash when showtimes are unavailable
Canadian showtimes are available but you must enter the postal code into the text box via the QWERTY or copy and paste.
-Release 3
Fixed an issue where the application would crash if Yahoo Movies had no information for a zip code.
Coming in the next update:
1. GPS Location
2. Cinemo Scoring(Vote if you liked a movie or not + See average score from other people)
3. Send showtimes via SMS/Email/MMS to contacts
And long term goals:
1. View Trailers
2. Metacritic Scores(waiting on approval from them)
The new Interface:
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Theater List:
Viewing movies by theater:
Movie details with critics and users scores:
Download here:
Looks like a great prog - does it require .NET 3x? Or is it a standalone app?
Would it possible to set "preferred" theatres? There are some theaters I would always like to see listed first.
will this only work in the states?
So I'm assuming this here is an example of the stereotype of People who call themselves 'American', but actually mean a citizen of the USA, and forgetting anything outside its borders? Or Canada if prompted by someone else.
Aside from that,
which cinemas does it work for? only sepcific chains of cinemas or all?
suggest IMDb would be a better rating if possible?
suggest a favourite cinema search?
EDIT: I just noticed that you have two threads for this app which will be a bit difficult to keep track of, also I would suggest it goes into the General forum area and not the diamond or raphael as it's not specific to either device.
bbobeckyj said:
So I'm assuming this here is an example of the stereotype of People who call themselves 'American', but actually mean a citizen of the USA, and forgetting anything outside its borders? Or Canada if prompted by someone else.
Aside from that,
which cinemas does it work for? only sepcific chains of cinemas or all?
suggest IMDb would be a better rating if possible?
suggest a favourite cinema search?
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It currently works only in the United States and Canada. A good way to check to see if it works for you is to visit http://movies.yahoo.com and enter your postal code. If it returns movies in your area, this application will work for you.
As to the griping that it doesn't work anywhere else...feel free to write your own app if you feel this one is beneath you.
danielgary said:
It currently works only in the United States and Canada. A good way to check to see if it works for you is to visit http://movies.yahoo.com and enter your postal code. If it returns movies in your area, this application will work for you.
As to the griping that it doesn't work anywhere else...feel free to write your own app if you feel this one is beneath you.
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I was simply making the point that you're reinforcing American stereotypes, and suggesting that a little more info in the first post would be helpfull. Such as saying- 'it simply reads the data from http://movies.yahoo.com and is USA only' which would be helpfull to would be users. After posting I noticed in the other thread someone asked the question - 'is it USA only?'
I have only one cinema within reasonable driving distance, they send me a weekly email. I have no use for your app. I was just trying to be helpfull by suggesting a more user friendly thread and app.
looks like a great program. i've installed it on my touch diamond but i can't bring up my on-screen keyboard to input my canadian postal code :[
orange_crush said:
looks like a great program. i've installed it on my touch diamond but i can't bring up my on-screen keyboard to input my canadian postal code :[
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If you need to get a canadian postal code into the app, I suggest writing it in notes or a text, copy it, then paste it into the box by holding the stylus on the textbox til the context menu pops up. I know its cumbersome, and I am working on a different input method...but that should do it.
An alternative method, if you are feeling adventuresome and have a text editor. You can open up "Program Files\Cinemo\Cinemo.exe.config" and edit the location in there.
I know its inconvenient for Diamond users at the moment. I hope to come up with a better solution soon.
ah! the first method was a no-go, the context menu doesnt show up for the text box. editing the config file worked fine though
UK
I like the look of this so I am moving to America, But seriously can the functionality be extended? maybe the link below could be added as a source for us folks in the UK that would like to use this.
http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/
or even http://fr.movies.yahoo.com/
Movie Description
First off I think that this is a great program. It does exactly what it should and quickly. I was hoping that you could add some sort of brief movie desription for each movie. This would be the only thing that I would like to see added. Thanks again for a great little app!
This is a GREAT app.
Quick, minor suggestions:
Some minor plot or other general info might be nice
Would love to have rotten tomatoes numbers
For some reason, it won't pull in all the theaters in my area. Is there a number limit on theaters?
Would be very cool to integrate with GPS to tell local theaters depending on location (i know this is hard)
Great contribution to winmo community!
uniqueboy said:
I like the look of this so I am moving to America, But seriously can the functionality be extended? maybe the link below could be added as a source for us folks in the UK that would like to use this.
http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/
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I'm working on something similar for the UK actually. It's early days, but I'll throw up a test version when done. Unfortunately my development for today is stopping due to a small bug i'd put in meaning my pc made too many requests to Yahoo while debugging and they have banned me with a 999 error for a few hours!
jmbillings said:
I'm working on something similar for the UK actually. It's early days, but I'll throw up a test version when done. Unfortunately my development for today is stopping due to a small bug i'd put in meaning my pc made too many requests to Yahoo while debugging and they have banned me with a 999 error for a few hours!
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That is some interesting news I am glad to hear of your development and sad to hear yahoo are pissing you off. I for one will definitely make use of your app. Roll on.
Do you have any plans to support other resolutions (QVGA, WVGA)? Looks like an awesome app as far as I can tell on my Titan. (Yeah, I know what forum I'm in )
there is a way for italians users? thanks for great application my friend.
any chance to get support for the HTC Touch? The buttons are too big and the right one isn't accessible for me.
thanks man this app looks promising... i look foreward to more updates in the future
Anyone know why this app no longer works?
Im a researcher at Salford uni, UK using mobile devices to allow the public to carry out noise surveys.
Im hoping to recruit thousands of people to install our app on their j2me mobile or WM PDA, which allows them to record the sound around them and comment on it using some simple scales.
The projects in its pilot at the mo so im trialling the software and methodology with some hard core beta testing.
Im really hoping you guys might be keen to test the WM app out and give me some feedback on how it works and how it could be improved.
Ive attached the cab file and source for your testing pleasure! The code is quite scatty but should be pretty readable.
As a side issue im also looking for some feedback on our project site @ http://www.soundaroundyou.com.
I'm the only one developing the projects different parts so im the worst one to be checking out its accessibility, usability and functionality. Thats why im calling on you guys for your mad development and testing skills.
Any feedback is good feedback for me so be as brutal as you like.
Cheers!
Charlie
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NB: Just changed the source and CAB to support (hopefully) all resolutions of devices. All ive done is scaled up all controls in the app depending on the screen size of the target device. There may be some strange side effects of this on device but it seems ok on the emulator...
New site look and feel. Map page also updated with new upload section for online uploads of soundscapes. Check it out... (http://www.soundaroundyou.com)
Sounds really interesting, I´ll give it a try. Please keep the first post up-to-date, maybe add screenshots as well, thanks
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any chance to get a vwga version instead of qvgaas it is not useable on my topaz.
Cheers for the interest, im downloading the WM 6.5 toolkit now so I can give it a whirl on that platform.
Ill post up here when ive sorted it.
Cheers, C
Just uploaded new version
In response to MasterOfDesasters ive edited the app so that it scales all of its controls to be usable on a larger screened device.
Its a quick fix really but seems to do the job and makes sure that everything can be navigated and used as you would on it native sized version.
This scaling is not ideal so might throw up some strange effects on control placement, but ive found no issues yet on the emulator.
Thanks again for your interest, C
cmydlarz said:
In response to MasterOfDesasters ive edited the app so that it scales all of its controls to be usable on a larger screened device.
Its a quick fix really but seems to do the job and makes sure that everything can be navigated and used as you would on it native sized version.
This scaling is not ideal so might throw up some strange effects on control placement, but ive found no issues yet on the emulator.
Thanks again for your interest, C
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works so far, but the capture tab is rotated 180 degrees
interesting... but would like some more details. 1) there are two cabs - which should be installed? and 2) where are the sound recordings stored? internal or external?
yep same questions here... i would like to participate on your proyect seems to be nice... but why?
Strange but necessary!
MasterOfDesasters said:
works so far, but the capture tab is rotated 180 degrees
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Strange but intentional!
Aha, that is actually intentional. I should probably explain this on the welcome page. I do this so that the devices microphone is placed as far away from any obstructions as possible. I trialled an older version with some school students and I found that they were making recordings with their hands placed over the little mic hole at the base of their mobiles. Because of the high systematic error associated with the unsupervised recordings Ive had to make sure we get as many usable recordings as possible. The app saves the rotational state of the phone when the app starts so that it resets it back to normal when the app is exited though.
Thanks again for your help and I would love it if you could maybe upload some of your recordings to the site using the PC app if you get a chance. Where are you based out of interest?
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aussiebum said:
interesting... but would like some more details. 1) there are two cabs - which should be installed? and 2) where are the sound recordings stored? internal or external?
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Hey there, the single cab attachment is the one to install but it should be the same as the one in the source zip anyways.
The sounds are stored on the devices root in a folder named "Sound Around You" There is a settings file and however many wav files for each recording. Each of these recordings has an associated xml text file that contains your subjective responses.
You can locate and upload your recordings using the PC app so they are viewable on the world soundscape map and can then be used in my research.
Thanks for your interest and let me know how it goes for you. Any other thoughts you might have on the PC app or website would also be great as im having a hard time attracting the public to take part and im far too nerd orientated to properly publicise the project!
+ Que PPC said:
yep same questions here... i would like to participate on your project seems to be nice... but why?
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Aha, thats a question ive been asked before... Is that "why are we doing what we are doing?" or is that "why should you take part and what do you get out of it?"
The projects main plan is to raise public awareness of the sounds around them or their "soundscape". The effect the sonic environment has on it inhabitants is not fully understood and im trying to work out how and why aspects of it affects people in different ways.
By gathering up thousands of soundscape recordings and peoples opinions of them, I can attempt to assess soundscapes in terms of their "Quality". This people based understanding can eventually lead to improved design and planning of future cities and current public spaces in terms of their sound environment.
The data that the public generate will feed directly into my PhD, where I will boil it all down to discover what the determining factors are within a soundscape.
Some more press friendly outcomes may be the opportunity to find out the "best sounding city in the UK or the world" or the loudest or quitest place in the world.
Check out the site @ http://www.soundaroundyou.com and please keep in touch if you want to know anymore.
All the best.
Charlie
cmydlarz said:
Hey there, the single cab attachment is the one to install but it should be the same as the one in the source zip anyways.
The sounds are stored on the devices root in a folder named "Sound Around You" There is a settings file and however many wav files for each recording. Each of these recordings has an associated xml text file that contains your subjective responses.
You can locate and upload your recordings using the PC app so they are viewable on the world soundscape map and can then be used in my research.
Thanks for your interest and let me know how it goes for you. Any other thoughts you might have on the PC app or website would also be great as im having a hard time attracting the public to take part and im far too nerd orientated to properly publicise the project!
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Thanks - will give it a go on my HD and see how it goes. Hopefully that'll encourage my workplace to let us all wear headphones during work!
(or at least make the dude who talks really loud on their phone quiet down a bit)
Rebranded the website
Just overhauled the website with new graphics and info. Also added an online upload section so you can get something straight up there using either our mobiles apps or your own recorder.
Let me know what you think of the new look and if it all makes sense.
Cheers!
C
cmydlarz said:
Just overhauled the website with new graphics and info. Also added an online upload section so you can get something straight up there using either our mobiles apps or your own recorder.
Let me know what you think of the new look and if it all makes sense.
Cheers!
C
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looks good cm
to all: please help out on this worthy project by installing the cab and uploading your sounds or even just giving your thoughts on how to make the software better.
thank you
can it use the gps to set the location automatically ?
also might drive those gadget freaks try it out
reiteravi said:
can it use the gps to set the location automatically ?
also might drive those gadget freaks try it out
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The Windows mobile version doesn't use the GPS unfortunately as I was having some real issues getting it working universally so I stripped it out. Our Java version for mobiles does though, if your mobile has a built in GPS receiver.
The way that these soundscapes are located without a GPS fix is by the dropping of a marker on a google maps box on the site @ http://www.soundaroundyou.com
But please give it a try and thanks for the interest!
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Hi, i recently baught a Cheap smartwatch (MTK6261D, model "Y1" round only one button, it supports 32gb cf card, has BT3 and supports a nano sim card.
i managed to kill the watch before i made a rom dump. (memory test ... -.-).
=============== Memory Detection Report ===============
Internal RAM:
Size = 0x0000D000 (52KB)
External RAM:
Type = SRAM
Size = 0x00400000 (4MB/32Mb)
NOR Flash:
Device ID = "[MXIC] MX25L3291FWJI_09" (274)
Size = 0x00400000 (4MB/32Mb)
NAND Flash:
ERROR: NAND Flash was not detected!
============ RAM Test ============
Data Bus Test :
[D0][D1][D2][D3][D4][D5][D6][D7][D8][D9][D10][D11][D12][D13][D14][D15]
OK!
Address Bus Test :
[A1][A2][A3][A4][A5][A6][A7][A8][A9][A10][A11][A12][A13][A14][A15][A16][A17][A18][A19][A20][A21]
OK!
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Is there anyone out that has a rom image of that watch?
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Hi, i recently baught a Cheap smartwatch (MTK6261D, model "Y1" round only one button, it supports 32gb cf card, has BT3 and supports a nano sim card.
i managed to kill the watch before i made a rom dump. (memory test ... -.-).
Is there anyone out that has a rom image of that watch?
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Check this link
drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwldou4jlfdINXg0Nmk2TTdBMmc/view
and here is the tutorial: youtube.com/watch?v=5qg_sVkda_g
Sent from my Redmi 3S using Tapatalk
Thanks for the info, found that one some days ago allready, no success, inversed colors, no touch working.
(tried once again)
Screen is in the right direction though.
also the watchfaces seem to be the ones that i had in the original.
https://i.imgur.com/tmpmHYY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3meZdAR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/H5CqwMu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/m4ckASN.jpg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75740399&postcount=984
at least working touchscreen with inverted colors till now
Maybe it works.
drive.google.com/open?id=1vqCEambZgQs2PYlMFvgNVIUxu2dcr_FD[/url]
rix78 said:
Maybe it works.
drive.google.com/open?id=1vqCEambZgQs2PYlMFvgNVIUxu2dcr_FD[/url]
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thanks for posting, unfortunally it does not work, screen inverted, touch not working. really sad, because that model shows steps and battery charge on the analog clock, also the homescreen is the one i really like. should work on other Y1's and / or V9's
I have the same build MTK 6261D...
I have yet to see another that has the same body, firmware, OS version, watch face, and apps that are on mine. I bought it off amazon last January branded as Amazing for Less, which is the same brand as Aosmart.
Anyway, Ive done so much research trying to figure out what the what this sucker is, that I figured out a couple of things by researching global mobile data protocols and mtk hardware schematics, things that I hadn’t read or watched anywhere.
I hope this is useful to someone:
The knob on the side (the power button) turns because it doubles as a tuner knob. This build is supposed to receive and transmit fm radio. The transmitter would be right near the tuner knob.
Also, I don’t think this model can access mobile data, even though it’s operating as a standalone phone on 2G successfully with calls and sms.
It is missing the connectivity option in the networks menu.
Preloaded apps are: Facebook, Twitter, browser, what’s app, sleep monitor (works), pedometer (works kinda).
Also, I got the processor to speed up a bit when I raised the UART settings to the hundred-thousands. I figured this out when researching what UART meant and read some technical journals about receiving and transmitting communications between two entities.
I also read this on a site I cannot link to b/c of 10 post rule:
“NOOOOOOOO! My dreaaaaaams! I just came across this, which was only possible to find because I got obsessed with figuring out all things Nucleus OS and figured out what version I have and it’s the one mentioned below:
“Caution: there is a new series of cheap smartwatches based on the MT626xDA. The ‘D’ in the model number seems to signify that these chips are incapable of using more than 4MiB of ROM. To compensate for this, the ROM seems to be compressed, which makes these watches pretty much unhackable. The ROM can be downloaded, but looks like random junk. Do not buy these things, because they will still be full of bugs...”
Now I know why my rom dump looked nothing like anything anyone snipped out and shared here. :|
I’ll post here if I remember anything else.
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margrador said:
I have yet to see another that has the same body, firmware, OS version, watch face, and apps that are on mine. I bought it off amazon last January branded as Amazing for Less, which is the same brand as Aosmart.
Anyway, Ive done so much research trying to figure out what the what this sucker is, that I figured out a couple of things by researching global mobile data protocols and mtk hardware schematics, things that I hadn’t read or watched anywhere.
I hope this is useful to someone:
The knob on the side (the power button) turns because it doubles as a tuner knob. This build is supposed to receive and transmit fm radio. The transmitter would be right near the tuner knob.
Also, I don’t think this model can access mobile data, even though it’s operating as a standalone phone on 2G successfully with calls and sms.
It is missing the connectivity option in the networks menu.
Preloaded apps are: Facebook, Twitter, browser, what’s app, sleep monitor (works), pedometer (works kinda).
Also, I got the processor to speed up a bit when I raised the UART settings to the hundred-thousands. I figured this out when researching what UART meant and read some technical journals about receiving and transmitting communications between two entities.
I also read this on a site I cannot link to b/c of 10 post rule:
“NOOOOOOOO! My dreaaaaaams! I just came across this, which was only possible to find because I got obsessed with figuring out all things Nucleus OS and figured out what version I have and it’s the one mentioned below:
“Caution: there is a new series of cheap smartwatches based on the MT626xDA. The ‘D’ in the model number seems to signify that these chips are incapable of using more than 4MiB of ROM. To compensate for this, the ROM seems to be compressed, which makes these watches pretty much unhackable. The ROM can be downloaded, but looks like random junk. Do not buy these things, because they will still be full of bugs...”
Now I know why my rom dump looked nothing like anything anyone snipped out and shared here. :|
I’ll post here if I remember anything else.
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Just remembered: when I punch in the *#0000 etc code, the model shows “NX9 G10D...” I put it together after seeing so many of everyone’s post with their watch info: Most of the ones I see here say “NX9 61D...” G10D is an alternate alphanumeric swap of 61D. The G replacing the 6 and the 0 replacing the D.
I’m wondering if it was a mis-translation of the English characters by someone overseas or if it is purposeful to keep track of clones of clones.
Thoughts?
margrador said:
I have yet to see another that has the same body, firmware, OS version, watch face, and apps that are on mine. I bought it off amazon last January branded as Amazing for Less, which is the same brand as Aosmart.
...
Thoughts?
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just to clarify, the compression is part of mtk's compiling tool. The dumps i ve made with this watch are all usable, only they seem to use different drivers for touchscreen and display. - which is normal.
My guess is:
A factory buys a couple of hundreds/thousands of the PCP with cpu mounted.
Then it adds touch and lcd/ips, mount everything - inject drivers, compiles and sells that.
I ve extracted a lot of the dumps, and you can find pretty much the same things in all of them, no matter if they are 4mb or bigger in filesize.
Next week i am getting another Y1 from a seller as one i ve ordered from him has a non functional pedometer,
maybe another version of the Y1 Nucleus Version.
gonna post the Dump / flashable later in here.
kapsubm said:
just to clarify, the compression is part of mtk's compiling tool. The dumps i ve made with this watch are all usable, only they seem to use different drivers for touchscreen and display. - which is normal.
My guess is:
A factory buys a couple of hundreds/thousands of the PCP with cpu mounted.
Then it adds touch and lcd/ips, mount everything - inject drivers, compiles and sells that.
I ve extracted a lot of the dumps, and you can find pretty much the same things in all of them, no matter if they are 4mb or bigger in filesize.
Next week i am getting another Y1 from a seller as one i ve ordered from him has a non functional pedometer,
maybe another version of the Y1 Nucleus Version.
gonna post the Dump / flashable later in here.
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Looking forward to that. I got frustrated when I realized the one I mentioned above would never ever be able to access the internet because it's 32mb, so I ordered a new one from light in the box that came with mtk60D cpu. And NOW on this one, none of the codes work except *# 00000000# doo-dad.
ughhhhhhhhhhh
margrador said:
Looking forward to that. I got frustrated when I realized the one I mentioned above would never ever be able to access the internet because it's 32mb, so I ordered a new one from light in the box that came with mtk60D cpu. And NOW on this one, none of the codes work except *# 00000000# doo-dad.
ughhhhhhhhhhh
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posted all y1 roms i had on https://www.needrom.com/category/others/watches-others/
Hello guys
Hope every1 is fine
I recently brought a watch (SW007)
I tried to upgrade the FW(rom) but everything gone disturbed now like i am not getting the correct FW Sometimes touch not working sometime upside down etc
I was wondering if anyone can help me finding the correct firmware
Smartwatch (SW007)
MTK6261d
Round dial
Please help
I got a Y1 smartwatch yesterday with hungarian firmware.
Is it possible to make a safety backup of the firmware before I try to modify the watch faces somehow?
It looks like pretty same as DZ09 in the basics.
Version: K13-COB-Y1-IPS7789HSD-QCY-KS-V1.240-20180115
Branch: 11C UMEOX61D_BT_11C
rix78 said:
Maybe it works.
drive.google.com/open?id=1vqCEambZgQs2PYlMFvgNVIUxu2dcr_FD[/url]
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How to flash
Nova910, Did you succeeded?Is this a fake y1? I've got the same,and i cannot install watchfaces ..
Rom for y1 smartwatch
I can not find a system for the Y1 smartwatch Mt6261DA
all I find the image is inverted, and the touch too, anyone know of any rom?
brunoqualhato1 said:
I can not find a system for the Y1 smartwatch Mt6261DA
all I find the image is inverted, and the touch too, anyone know of any rom?
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you have the MT6261DA who is the unhackable version , you cannot even install skins , so dont dream about installing a rom that is even bigger because there is no space available on this brand ;if you are lucky find any model with MT6261A .
aa
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kapsubm said:
Hi, i recently baught a Cheap smartwatch (MTK6261D, model "Y1" round only one button, it supports 32gb cf card, has BT3 and supports a nano sim card.
i managed to kill the watch before i made a rom dump. (memory test ... -.-).
Is there anyone out that has a rom image of that watch?
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im sorry for "aa" typo post, im new here. just want to share my Y1 (with camera) firmware.
i have backup of my Y1 + camera smartwatch firmware. my smartwatch model is not different than your watch. please check this firmware
http: //linku .us/x1EP
http: //linku .us/9ZezddrEQ
http: //linku .us/hXns
pass: apong
extract with 7zip extractor
https: //aponkz .wordpress .com/2018/11/18/firmware-dz11-plus-y1s-camera-smartwatch/
Dont buy that junk!
The Y1 is just rubbish. I wouldn't even bother to do anything to mine as the battery was swollen and dead after just 3 months of usage. My advice, when you get tired of it (which wont be too long after you get it) take it, put it back in its box and chuck it in the bin. Best update ever.
The MCU is : ML0-mtk_C56_whb02d-aAaAaA_6686-8A_20211221-10:04
If anyone can recommend custom firmware or other info, that'd be much appreciated. Many Thanks.
nevoz said:
The MCU is : ML0-mtk_C56_whb02d-aAaAaA_6686-8A_20211221-10:04
If anyone can recommend custom firmware or other info, that'd be much appreciated. Many Thanks.
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Hi, please take a photo of infotainment settings (where all info about device is) and we will see further more.
All i know is that your unit is MTK based.
Thanks for your reply, please let me know if these photos aren't what you are after :
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Bumping this thread. Wondering how I can backup the apps and ROM.
I also want to check dmesg or interrogate hardware in some way to see what radio IC it uses. The manufacturer claims in supports RDS, but the built in radio app not showing any RDS info. Unsure if its just the app, or the hardware. I'm assuming I would have to root the unit to get this info .. if any rooting tools available, would be much appreciated.
Many Thanks
Search for firmware in this forum by - mtk (device type) A-media 007 (model) android 11
You'll probably find a match.
Thanks for the guidance Anton, but unfortunately such a search returns nothing (except for this thread we are in now..). Sounds like I must have purchased an obscure unit with chips that hardly anyone else has..! If any further guidance to point me in the right direction, would be appreciated.
It's an Odd ball. I've never brought a car without knowing what it was.
It's easy to say that you wouldn't have bought (not brought) a car without knowing what it was, but we don't know what we don't know (also it's just a head unit I bought, not a whole car (?)). You would be way more experienced on what to look for and what should be asked. I thought the specs like ARM etc would be enough, didn't realise that deeper research would have been needed. I can still return it if I'd like to, TBH it isn't a big deal the head unit seems to work well - Google Play, Android Auto Wireless .. working wonderfully. It just would have been nice to root it to enable more flexibility. I assume I can't do things like backup apps without rooting.
I didn't mean to search mainly here, expand your search on net there is a Russian forum with updates and firmwares 4PDA, bunch of video files on youtube for specific devices and with links to firmwares etc.
Thanks Anton, I did search Google but didn't find much. I'll check YT / 4PDA, as you suggested. Thanks for the guidance again.
nevoz said:
Thanks for your reply, please let me know if these photos aren't what you are after :
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Привет! Ищу всевозможную информацию по такой же балалайке. Моя обзывается Vastking Kingpad_SA10_EEA (A007). Проживаю в Москве.
Mod. Translation: Hello! I am looking for all kinds of information on the same balalaika. My name is Vastking Kingpad_SA10_EEA (A007). I live in Moscow.
Hello, I haven't found anything more useful on this model, but I haven't tried too hard to be honest.
Thanks for answer
Hi! Are you currently using this device?
I have an A007 (KingPad_SA10_EEA) manufacturer SPRD, brand VastKing. My display is 1280x480. It was made for a BMW E46 but I am going to use it in a Plymouth Prowler because of the size. Anyway, I found that it has a UNISOC UMS512 CPU. Not sure but it maybe a T610. I did have a problem with Zlink v5.2.3 when using Android Auto. It would stop the music when the nav was speaking and never restart. The vendor sent me an update zip file. THIS IS AN MCU UPDATE!!! This updated Zlink to V5.3.72 and now it works. https://wetransfer.com/downloads/d9...825a62dba56f89108144fdff20221009064018/eedc8a This is only good until Oct 16, 2022. Just had to copy the .zip to a thumb drive (Fat32) and insert it anytime and watch for the message quickly appear to Install. I did get it from Alibaba Navifans Franchised Store.
8.8 inch screen
I got this unit, too. Guess there will be some more information around soon since these are new and very fast units on the market. Mine has 8/128 GB of RAM. Don't like the resolution of the 32 band Equalizer and Radio but everything works pretty fast, so its ok for me. If there are more informations around also how to upgrade to a better Equalizer and Radio App, please share your information
Guys, can you show me the factory settings as I have a major problem finding an option to switch off the standby mode? I can drop some screens from my radio if needed.
Brand: Wondefoo 8/128GB
Rom80 said:
Guys, can you show me the factory settings as I have a major problem finding an option to switch off the standby mode? I can drop some screens from my radio if needed.
Brand: Wondefoo 8/128GB
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Hello Rom80.
I have the same equipment as you, a Wondefoo 8/128G. In my case everything works fine except that the reversing camera shows the inverted image (the sky and clouds are seen at the bottom of the screen).
If you want to send us the screenshots of all the factory setting screens, there are about 25 images. Or we share the settings configuration file "ZQ_FACTORY_SET". The latter is more dangerous because we can have a nice brick.
Have you touched anything in the settings?
bytechus said:
Hello Rom80.
I have the same equipment as you, a Wondefoo 8/128G. In my case everything works fine except that the reversing camera shows the inverted image (the sky and clouds are seen at the bottom of the screen).
If you want to send us the screenshots of all the factory setting screens, there are about 25 images. Or we share the settings configuration file "ZQ_FACTORY_SET". The latter is more dangerous because we can have a nice brick.
Have you touched anything in the settings?
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No i dont , i just runs through the all options and didnt find anything that has something to do with standby mode at all. I might be blind and just missed it but i think its just my low skills with new type of the HU with android 11. I go and do screens of my FS.