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Hi all,
For those who have the experiences/luxury to tried on
both Herald and Hermes, can you pls share your experience
between the two ?
I am had a hard time deciding which to get.
Hermes is selling at much lower price than Herald over here.
Herald does not seem to be picking up here.
Also O2 Zinc in also about to be avaliable in matters of weeks.
I get the general feedback that Herald is much more
responsive than Hermes despite slower speed processors -
a big factor of consideration for me.
Specifications for both devices is OK for my usage/applications.
What I need is actual user feedback in comparision of the
2 devices such as
- actual battery life performance?
- skype performance?
- device stability ... etc ?
- third party devices accessories - e.g. dual sim card add on....etc ?
Thanks in advance.
I was in the same predicament, it came down to the fact that because i have a crappy data plan i would have no use for 3G, so I went for the much smaller and better looking (IMHO) herald. Very happy with it.
does the Herad has the same freeze issues ?
This would be really important for me since 2 resets a day with my TyTN/Hermes is just too much...
I have to restart it once every 3 days or so, using the Herald very very often !
But this always depends a lot on which Software you have currently installed on your device !
I would assume this would change with XV6800(verzion version of the Herald with rev a 3G) since it has 256 of memory and aku 3.5?
Get my Herald today
Hey,
I get my Herald today. Since today I used an TYTN.
First: Herald impressed me with they good performance and better looking.
Tomorrow I start to test it with all my programm from TYTN.
The TYTN has at the end problems with freezing.
I give you update
Oliver
what is the update?
Top Herald
Hello,
after 6 days using the Herald and play a lot of programmes on my Herald i can, say: Herald ist top, no freezing, good performance and it feels good.
I use it with an alucase and this ist the very much better with the TYTN. No problems to switch on camera, Com Manager....... The buttons on Herald are well placed (better than the TYTN). The Keyboard is better than the TYTN (no uncontrolled outcoming).
+ Better Keyboard
+ No freezes
+ Good inital Quality
- Performance a little bit slower than TYTN (but its OK)
If need to buy an HTC, at the moment I would buy an Herald (But I think after Herald generation there will come an Herald with 3G and a better CPU like the Samsung with AKU 3.X, thats my next HTC "Herald")
Oliver
Thx
Thanks for the update. Funny enough I mananged to get my Hermes running without any freezes: I am quite sure it is the SD card reading that can cause some lock-ups. So I maanged to get just every frequently used app on my internal memory. And the eMails & attachements as weel. I managed to use my hermes since 96 hours without freeze now.
Well, the Heradl seems quite nice - I will probalby get it as a second device and test it thoroughly.
Regards,
Apple*
Is atom hardware is same as Hp 6828, on few sites they said it's identical, but i'm not sure what kind of identical is it.
So can we run ROM for Atom into Hp 6828 (Like HTC Universal as: XDA exec, dopod 900 etc)
Thanks in advanced
hardware is identical, but i've not sem people run the rom of one in the other. People have extracted Atom apps (phone pad/dial) and installed them in the 6828 with no problems though.
Hmmm, Thanks for reply...
I think i'll start my experiment on my girlfriend's 6828. (I'm sure she wont complain cause I bought it for her) ;-D
Hope you post the results! I want to do the oposite - Flash HP's ROM into my Atom!
...are you SURE you want O2's ROM on a HP? >_>
u can flash 6828 with atom's rom, but there will be a lot of hardware issues... and believe me, u'll regret it..
A bit OT, but I have question about 6828. Is there any possibility to connect any USB device to it? I consider USB HDD 2,5". Please help.
bikekowal said:
A bit OT, but I have question about 6828. Is there any possibility to connect any USB device to it? I consider USB HDD 2,5". Please help.
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nope, but there are ways to connect the miniSD card on your Atom to a PC as a Flash Drive.
Yeah, you need a feature called "USB Host". PPCs that have them are RARE, and unfortunately, the Atom doesn't have it, and O2/HP isn't known for supporting this feature.
So have you tried the flashing?
Please post results. I belive that if they are hardware identical it wont be a poroblem to flash it! Like I have flashed my old MDA compact with Qtek S100's flash!
I want to try the HP rom on my Atom mainly for the new camera software(they say it's better than the Atom's one)
In my honest opinion, I dont know why you would want to flash the HP to O2. The o2 rom is heavier and the features hardly used (unless of course you subscribe to o2's services)
I seriously think you are better off with the HP rom.
it's lighter faster and more reliable.
have you upgraded to the new 1.01 rom from HP?
Try that instead.
rohseq
HP 6280
Can we run ROM for Atom Prophet_220734_2207114_024721(AKU2.3)
into Hp 6828
Thanks
Maybe not so ultimate a chicken??
Ultimate Chicken said:
...are you SURE you want O2's ROM on a HP? >_>
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I see you're running :
==Currently Using:==
O2 Xda Atom Not-Quite-The-Executive
CMOS: 55.44
BRD: C1
ROM: 20060721B1WWE
RDO: R060822N_MN2ARC_RS00013
EXT : EX0033
Does that work well on a std Atom?
Is there any benefit compared to version 20060414B1WWE?
Have you tried installing later exec ROM's too (think there was a later radio ROM from September 2006)?
If so, did it work?
Well, after doing this, I didn't dare to flash with any later ROMs. Why?
Because the ROM is hacked to OUTRIGHT LIE. As in, an ordinary Atom only has 128MB of internal RAM, but the ROM makes it say 192MB. Yes, 192MB. Because of this, I dare not flash with later ROMs. No telling what an unhacked , pure ROM might do to an ordinary Atom. (Yes, the ROM was supposedly HACKED to work on the Atom, by using the Atom Radio Rom 0822 in place of the Atom Exec stack. I think if we tried to use an AE pure ROM, we'd get a missing radio ROM later, since it uses different radio hardware.)
I only flashed to this one because I was having trouble with 20060414B1WWE battery life and drain. Noticed very little change (an extra hour or so after conditioning, battery doesn't drain as often - eventually replaced the original, which turned out to have 2 of its cells non-functional), although some here said this made the O2's default battery last MUCH longer. Others also reported screen flicker after flashing - which disappears in a matter of hours or only happens periodically, but I noticed no such issues.
Also, note that if you flash to the hacked ROM, it's harder to go back to the original if you have problems - since the new bootloader will not allow you to flash straight from it anymore.
The camera application is more stable when attempting to save to memory, and the phone reception is slightly better - but flashing to the hacked ROM is not recommended. There is little benefit far as I can see - even if the ROM is stable and my PPC still works the same - and the risk is rather high.
You can search this forum for the old threads when that ROM first came out. They should tell you what you need to know, and are answered by people with more experience than I have.
Hi all,
I'm running original WM06 ITA on my x7500 and I'm experiencing this problem:
when I receive a call I can't answer with my BT headset because X7500 BT is turned off even if it was on, so that I have to activate it again. So the problem is that X7500 BT turns off by itself very often in a day. How can I solve this problem? Any fix available?
THX so much!
hi
i have the same problem. this thing happens 2-5 times a day to me. the wicked thing is that somtimes it works perfect 1 or 2 days and when you think no everything is fine 'pop' its there again. fact is that bluetooth simply disappears, the indicator on athena is still blinking blue and the commanager tells bt is on, but my bt-headset (and other devices) signals that the bt connection is gone, also other devices cant find the athena any longer. i have to disable/enable bt in the commanager to get the functionality of bt back. i was thinking about returning the device for repair, but fearing the discussion of not using the original rom (the one with the superugly optical improvements of the provider ). and because maby it's a rom problem. my config is:
htc rom 2.21.407.1 (07/18/07) with extrom:2.21.407.101.
3 bt-headsets 1. sony hbh-ds220, 2. moto s705 and moto ht-820. all 3 are working fine with my universal but having these problem with the athena.
madbird
Hi...so we have the same problem...
I have the original HTC ROM just restored on my device and I have the problem. I read about it somewhere, other people with same problem but I can't remember where...
yes we are not alone i found serval posts on the net for htc and other brands like these:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=27495&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=867111
but no solutions. the only meaningful thing was for wm5, there is a fix of the bluetooth stack by microsoft (http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;913683&x=13&y=14) but i did not found one for wm6.
mad
Hi guys.
I'm sorry to say that I had, a long while ago, the same problem with my Universal, and after a whole lot of tweaking, tinkering, and kinky massaging, all that was left to do was to have the device replaced. It definitly was a hardware problem, alas... :-(
I've had mine almost 4 months, stock 7501 ROM, and no problem like that ever. I leave BT turned on all the time. Sounds like a hardware problem.
been there done that fixed that
hi all,
yes, until I found the coolest und most functional BT headset, the cheapy prior ones caused same faults, even to the point of a hard reset ... why, well
no help to be found, just the notion of thinking and knowing, that the cheapy hardware out there was casuing it, not the htc.
example, some devices go into a kind of sleep mode and disconnect if not used, then while the htc still thinks its connected, it gets no reply from your other BT device. Take many SW packages or HW devices on your PC even, unplug the network and u´ll see, even they have unforseen problems ...
have fun, try HW makers like HAMA or Samsung, they rarely disappoint.
ollli
Aaaahhhh, I'm not alone.
Same problem here, but ONLY afair with WM6 (I'm using WM6, T-Mobile Germany). I can't remember, that I had this problem with the original T-MOB WM5 ROM.
Regards
Andreas
ollli3d said:
hi all,
yes, until I found the coolest und most functional BT headset, the cheapy prior ones caused same faults, even to the point of a hard reset ... why, well
no help to be found, just the notion of thinking and knowing, that the cheapy hardware out there was casuing it, not the htc.
example, some devices go into a kind of sleep mode and disconnect if not used, then while the htc still thinks its connected, it gets no reply from your other BT device. Take many SW packages or HW devices on your PC even, unplug the network and u´ll see, even they have unforseen problems ...
have fun, try HW makers like HAMA or Samsung, they rarely disappoint.
ollli
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hi
i dont know if you read the post's above, but if you do you will see that the pda is turning off the bt, so it dont matter if you use one of the 'fantastic products' of hama (yes i also read your other 2 'advertising' posts of your overall 3 for them ). or any cheap crap stuff from sony or motorola like i do.
anyhow to came back to the real problem, i called my provider today and after explaining the problem, they suprise me with a complete hasselfree swap of the device to a new one in the beginning of the next week. when i get the new device i will test it first with the rom that installed, and then switch to the htc rom again to see if the problem returns again, i post the results here.
bye mad
Yeah, I think they're probably aware there's something wrong with some bluetooth chips, both on the Athena and Universal....
hi,
with wm6,
i have tested a BT 1.1 headset (Conceptronics) and works fine, without problems.
also, i have tested 2 BT 1.2 headsets (LG Style-i and Supertooth Nano). In the 2 cases, i have your related problems.
in my opinion, wm6 has a problem with the headsets that implements the 1.2 protocol.
all the headsets works fine with wm5.
regards
I have same problem with HTC Advantage running WM6 with LG Style-i headset ...
With my LG Style-i it keeps disconecting but with my SE BT headset it works fine (PK 3.0 Dual ROM) so in my case the BT on the phone doesnot turmn itself off, just has problems connecting.
Someone sugested a diff radio ROM might fix it - if so, does anyone know which radio does not implement the 1.2 protocol?
I'm using 1.47.51.00
hi there
i'm using my replacement athena for nearly one week now, and had not a single 'shutdown' of bt, not with the se ds220 nor with the moto 705 headset. i use the official german tmobile wm6 roms and not the htc version i used on the replaced athena. so it is not totaly clear if the change of the device or of the rom is making the difference, all other software packages are installed again. it also seems that the system is more stable overall in my every day usage, but that might be only my personal feeling.
mad
*EDIT* one more thing i noticed now is that when a call came in the sound is now played in the bt headset. before the sound came out of the speakers of the athena, and the bt headset only play its standard ringtone. seems that now everything is the way it should be .
BigDede said:
I have same problem with HTC Advantage running WM6 with LG Style-i headset ...
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hi,
i' sure that the bt problem is due to the radio rom. i have the 1.38 radio rom and no problems with lg style. please, install it and test and report the results.
regards
bartito said:
hi,
i' sure that the bt problem is due to the radio rom. i have the 1.38 radio rom and no problems with lg style. please, install it and test and report the results.
regards
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I have the 1.38 Radio version and I have the problem which is Bluetooth turning off by itself when using LG Style-i
ok, the problem is wm6
BigDede said:
I have the 1.38 Radio version and I have the problem which is Bluetooth turning off by itself when using LG Style-i
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Did somebody tried to go through these update from Microsoft for WM6 ??
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...76-ff8d-460c-b454-6c487fd4c7d9&DisplayLang=en
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...c1-f0f4-4fd6-9366-b61e0ab59565&DisplayLang=en
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...5f-782b-4378-a228-f18af8c59aa3&DisplayLang=en
hi spiderman ,
i don't have teste (i have wm5) but the description seems don't have relation with bt stack procedures.
regards
Hardware or software
It's 4 months since last post and wondering if someone found a solution?
Hi all, I have a wildfire and i have noticed a little problem.I have always had a WM ( upgrade my devices every year) and Android Phone.
I have noticed with android the bluetooth connection issue does not have the option to leave the device "discoverable" all the times ( unlike WM devices).
This was not much of a problem with the 1.5 ( htc hero), when it was paired with my bluetooth stereo everytime the phone rang it would connect to the headunit and work very well. I was actually impressed as it would save on my much needed battery. And work very well interms on hands free in the car.
The phone i have now is a htc wildfire,the phone will ring and when i pick up it remains on the internal speaker and does not "search" for the default hands free.
My device is not rooted, currently running the oem unlocked unbraded rom.
I have a few questions but done know where to place them?
Is there a way round?Does anyone know of a fix?
Who actually makes the rom?
Can they not program the device to have the always on feature?
Is it possible to extract the bluetooth program/app from the 1.5 and port it to the 2.1?
Thank you in advance.
Ayub
Hello everybody, i am french and i think my English is quite bad but .....
I have a HTC HD MINI
I have tried to install cyanogene android but after i reinstall windows mobile 6.5, GPS dont fix anything. I have tried a lot of things, like hard reset, modifications of parameters (COM 0.....7 anf 4800 ....57600....) but nothing. TOMTOM 7 told me 'are u in a batilment.?".
I am so disappointed !!!!!
Do u have any suggestion??
Thanks
You have to install Android again, go to options, activate the GPS and then install Windows again.
Did you Download (upgrade) satellites position in windows mobile??!!
Every 7 days you should do this for better calibration!!
GPS Problem
Hi friends.
My friend has a HD mini (he bought it in 14 days before) and he has a same problem with gps.
the device is old (used- second hand) (sry for bad english). and when bought it, rapidly he installed nand!!!
now, he came back too windows and he sees the GPS nothing work. he didn't test it before installing nand.
I did every thing what I knew about GPS problems may appear after coming back to windows. (like, turn on GPS options in android and come back to win) but its GPS don't work.
Has been GPS corrupted?
M O R T Y said:
Hi friends.
My friend has a HD mini (he bought it in 14 days before) and he has a same problem with gps.
the device is old (used- second hand) (sry for bad english). and when bought it, rapidly he installed nand!!!
now, he came back too windows and he sees the GPS nothing work. he didn't test it before installing nand.
I did every thing what I knew about GPS problems may appear after coming back to windows. (like, turn on GPS options in android and come back to win) but its GPS don't work.
Has been GPS corrupted?
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Hi Morty.
If I understand correctly ....
I do not think GPS is Dead. Only believe, is blocked. I noticed that there are some releases Android ROMs, which block the GPS.
Some evidence of mini hd and hd2 I have demonstrated this.
The only advice I can give you (what I have written in other threads) is to go back to WM6.5. From here to try some release Android sd (I forget which I used on hd mini) obviously do not install the one you have already tried. I hope I was clear and helpful.
Best regards.
M O R T Y said:
Hi friends.
My friend has a HD mini (he bought it in 14 days before) and he has a same problem with gps.
the device is old (used- second hand) (sry for bad english). and when bought it, rapidly he installed nand!!!
now, he came back too windows and he sees the GPS nothing work. he didn't test it before installing nand.
I did every thing what I knew about GPS problems may appear after coming back to windows. (like, turn on GPS options in android and come back to win) but its GPS don't work.
Has been GPS corrupted?
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oregon69 said:
Hi Morty.
If I understand correctly ....
I do not think GPS is Dead. Only believe, is blocked. I noticed that there are some releases Android ROMs, which block the GPS.
Some evidence of mini hd and hd2 I have demonstrated this.
The only advice I can give you (what I have written in other threads) is to go back to WM6.5. From here to try some release Android sd (I forget which I used on hd mini) obviously do not install the one you have already tried. I hope I was clear and helpful.
Best regards.
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Hi, especial thanks to M O R T Y , this post is about me, I want to add these two point: first that I used the exactly version which the former owner used before (Update cm 7.2.0 RC0 photonic KANG signed) and second that in W.M 6.5 the icon that shows GPS is activated , is shown while my device not only isn't able to orientate me but it can't download updates correctly as well, it starts downloading till download bar becomes 100% and then this message appears :
<<Data Activitation failed
Location setting must be on so that downloading satellites can be used to speed up GPS startup time >>
of course now I am using SAVVAS.
sorry for my poor English.
thanks a lot
mine not working either
I flashed HD Mini to CM2.7, GPS and Wi-Fi are not working. It seems to be that the driver can't be loaded correctly.
1. reinstall CM and go to settings > location, and check "use GPS satellites" and turn off phone
2. restart in bootloader volume down + power and reinstall WM
Starting Android from SD Card and turning on GPS there should work too. So you dont need to flash it again.