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Worth Buying A hermes(Vario II) Now ? or wait for Kaiser ?

Hi,
What u guys recommend is it too late now ?...When it's Successor Kaiser will be out ?...Keem reply coming..
Thanks in advance Cheers mates

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depends on what you will be using it for really, if you want a stable bluetooth connection for a car kit and you dont want to be rebooting the phone daily then in my experience i would not buy one. If i new about these problems before i got mine then i definately would not of brought it.
it does have a whole host of features though so i suppose you cannot have everything.
If they sort these problems out which i keep hearing they will then the phone will be worth having.
I will now go and see what the Kaiser has to offer as might be time to switch already from this rubbish. (Annoyed as you can tell and only my opinion, due to the fact that car kit works fine on my wizard and no rebooting of phone. This one does not work correctly with car kit, people cannot hear me speak, and phone has to be rebooted 2-3 times a day, and yes the phone has been replaced and it is the same problems.)
zomig

there is nothing wrong with my car kit as my wizard (o2 xda mini s ) works 100% with it, this is an issue with the Bluetooth stack on this device and has been mentioned more times than i care to remember.
It quite simply does not work. It is also supposed to be fixed when they eventually release a new rom. But i wont hold my breath.

If you really need the keyboard, then, the Hermes might prove OK (albeit, if I were you, I'd REALLY wait!). If you don't need it, wait or get he Trinity - the latter is much better IMHO than the Hermes (built-in GPS and, hopefully, FM radio).

Strange My new Hermes works better with my Bluetooth Headset than my wizard did. Sound is clearer and louder. and on my wizard when I would answer a call the caller would get a earsplitting screech as I pres the answer button. This is not a prob with the TYTN
Jules

Thanks u all guys .....really appreciate it
I don't care abt Bt Problem will have a look on trinity does t-mobile rlease trinity ?

bluetooth car handsfree disconnect issue

ok.. I read a couple of threads regarding this issue but could not find any solutions. one guy said that ak3.3 fixed his problems but 3 have a spv m3100 and I don,t know wich update pack should I choose besides cingular wich doesn't have video calling.
Any thoughts?

Doesn't anybody have the same issue and managed to solve it?

I had the same issue when I upgraded to WM6, I fixed it by installing the GPS radio ROM. This fixed it straight away.

In installed the latest 1.35 ROM and that did not fixed it and even with XDA live that did not work. Where can I find the GPS Rom?

andrei318ti said:
Doesn't anybody have the same issue and managed to solve it?
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My 8525 was disconnecting from my car constantly after getting the phone a few days ago. My TyTN never had this problem. Even after installing the exact same ROM onto the 8525 that was on my TyTN I still had the same problem.
Basically, after a minute or two of being connected to my car the bluetooth on the phone would turn off. It didn't just disconnect. It turned off completely. This phone did it just like the Treo 750v (very unreliable phone by-the-way) did.
The problem appears to have gone away now that I have installed WM6 on my 8525. I have not done anything special to get it working aside from installing the LSVW WM6 ROM. It is definitely worthwhile to give it a try.

I believe that 1.35 is the "GPS enabled, but not initialized" rom.

OJ2000 said:
I had the same issue when I upgraded to WM6, I fixed it by installing the GPS radio ROM. This fixed it straight away.
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I had it fixed by changing the registry values for bluetooth power saving. Upgrading to VM6 and to radio rom 1.35 (gps enabled) bringed back the problem... now I cannot find anymore what registry value I had changed...

stepir said:
I had it fixed by changing the registry values for bluetooth power saving. Upgrading to VM6 and to radio rom 1.35 (gps enabled) bringed back the problem... now I cannot find anymore what registry value I had changed...
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Ohhh....please try to find them because I searched high and low and still no solution.

Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=245887&highlight=bluetooth+power+saving

Ok I tryed the small fix on that link and did not work at all. I also inslled WM6 LSVW and still nothing. Any other ideas?

Try this: "jetware.hands-free.extension.1.24".

Installing the leaked Cingular ROM fixed the problem for me. Prior to this, it would connect briefly, then disconnect, and would come and go, but mostly would not connect. Now, every once in a while, it disconnects very briefly, but for the most part is solid.

Tryed jetware but still no go. Any other idea? doesn't anyone that has a hermes use a car handsfree bluetooth system? From what I know all devices suffer from this?

Nothing? Hasn't anybody found the solution to this problem? From what I read it happens to almost all hermes devices.

Yes, had the same problem.
Have a SPV M3100 with the Audi A4 Bluetooth (part of Gen II GSM Prep).
My old MDA Vario worked flawlessly.
SPV3100:
1. Pairs and makes / receives calls.
2. After 10-15 Mins calls are not routed through car kit.
3. When making / recieving call after 10-15 Mins, handset thinks its connected to handsfree (headset symbol in phone dial pad) but car does not pickup call hence no handsfree and no sound in handset ear piece!
4. Occasionaly, handset reconnects to car handsfree automatically on an incoming call.
5. Connection of in car charger SEEMS to improve realiablility.
6. Switching Bluetooth off then on on the handset will initiate a new connection that again works for 10-15 Mins.
Mark

temoore said:
Installing the leaked Cingular ROM fixed the problem for me. Prior to this, it would connect briefly, then disconnect, and would come and go, but mostly would not connect. Now, every once in a while, it disconnects very briefly, but for the most part is solid.
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I get the problem with the new rom also, have been using it for weeks now. The new ROM does NOT resolve the issue, at least with the Acura HFL system.

So it seems that there is currently no fix to this issue.

bsica said:
I get the problem with the new rom also, have been using it for weeks now. The new ROM does NOT resolve the issue, at least with the Acura HFL system.
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Well, it did resolve it on my '07 Audi Q7.

I tried to contact HTC and this is what I got
Thank you for your enquiry. An IMEI check of your device indicated that it is a network branded phone.
IMEI:? 357719003647231? Network: Orange Romania SA
Unfortunately we do not offer technical support for network branded handsets, as both software and hardware can be altered by the network provider.
Please contact your provider for any support that you might need, including repairs and software updates.
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Can anyone with a TyTN contact HTC and ask for a solution?

Thanks temoore,
Looks like I need to get my boss to upgrade my car from A4 to Q7 to get the phone hands free to work.
It just might work.......;-)

All Bluetooth device Mic's dead

I hope someone is able to help me.
Okay I have the Wizard, upgraded to Wizard Mobile 6.
Shortly after, all my bluetooth devices (car kit, headset...) had their microphones die. In other words nobody could hear me when speaking through any kind of bluetooth.
I then flashed the Radio ROM to a different version, and bluetooth was repaired. But now the problem has returned for no reason.
Why does my Wizard's bluetooth audio in keep failing, yet its speaker works fine and I can hear other people?
Is there a recommended update to the Bluetooth Stack I can try?

CJSnet said:
I hope someone is able to help me.
Okay I have the Wizard, upgraded to Wizard Mobile 6.
Shortly after, all my bluetooth devices (car kit, headset...) had their microphones die. In other words nobody could hear me when speaking through any kind of bluetooth.
I then flashed the Radio ROM to a different version, and bluetooth was repaired. But now the problem has returned for no reason.
Why does my Wizard's bluetooth audio in keep failing, yet its output works fine and I can hear other people?
Is there a recommended update to the Bluetooth Stack I can try?
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I do have exactly the same problem. After flashing XDA Mobile 6 Release 3, microphone has worked for couple of days, and then suddenly died. Interesting, microphone is working with Notes but not with phone. I went back to
XDA Mobile 6 Release 2 for some other reasons (read: 2MB more free memory for critical application) but the problem with Bluetooth microphone remains. Radio is 2.25. Any advice?
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Pogo

There are also at least 3 people at the Wizard Mobile 6 thread with the same issue. Very surprised none of the experts here have been able to propose a fix. Makes the phone virtually worthless if you can't use it in the car etc.
As a workaround, I have found if you mute then unmute the phone volume, the issue is sometimes temporarily resolved for a short time. It always comes back though

I have been asked to join this thread. Per a PM:
We love the ROM you have provided, and are very thankful, however it was not until installing it that this issue arose. It does not seem fair to leave a number of people with a phone that is unusable for 'phone calls'.
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I don't know what to tell you. If the rom doesn't work for you, then don't use it... Don't tell me its "not fair". I use MS Voice Command, and XM6r3 and have never seen this issue with my Bluetooth headset (Jawbone). I've also tested this out with a Plantronics Explorer 210 headset that I have and it has not problems with XM6r3 either. My A2DP headset (Spider) also works fine on XM6r3 with MS VC. I've stated this in the past when people have said they have BT issues on my rom. Sorry, but I can't reproduce it, so its hard for me to fix something that isn't broken for me.
Try this... Do a hardreset on your device (take a backup first if you want), then leave it as the base rom with NOTHING extra added. Run that way for a few days (how ever long it has taken before) and see if the problem happens again. If it doesn't then its not my rom but something being added to it (probably screwing with the registry someplace). If it does happen, then as I've stated before, I've seen a number of BT devices be flakey on WM6 (especially car kits). Try a different rom then. If someone with the problem can pin it down, I'll be happy to do what it takes to fix this issue if its something in the rom that is causing it.

Thanks mfrazz. What wasn't fair was not the bug, but that you had not responded to previous mentions of it, i.e. not fair to leave us with it. We love the ROM and put a lot of our life in your hands in a way, as we rely on our device so much for work and play. Hope you understand.
Now then, I have already tried a hard reset and the problem never occurs, until WM6 is put back on. Sure, 'use another ROM' is all very well, but we love yours - again, hope you appreciate the sentiment. If you're in a relationship, are you the kind of guy who tells a girl who loves you, 'find another boyfriend', or do you try to make it work
SO, I am wondering if this is related to the glitch you mention where sometimes when switching out of vibrate mode, the ring tone becomes muted. For that, your solution is to play the ringtone again, then it becomes unmuted.
Similarly, our Bluetooth devices mic's are being muted, and if we mute then unmute them again, then they become unmuted. A link that helps point you in the right direction?
Please note, this is not certain bluetooth devices being 'flaky', this is ALL devices. 4 at the latest count, including rock solid Nokia CARK7W car kits and Jabra headsets.
Some people put it down to MS Voice Command, which I have never installed. What does that program do, do you know, to cause the bug? Again I hope that might help point you in the right direction.
Please don't dump us Let's try to fix what is wrong in this relationship

BT problem solved?
CJSnet - not sure if you have resolved this. I was having the same problem and noticed people with reTouched dialer were not, so I loaded that dialer and the problems went away. I am using a Plantronics Voyager 510. Seems the problem might be with the standard dialer.
Hope this helps
CJSnet said:
There are also at least 3 people at the Wizard Mobile 6 thread with the same issue. Very surprised none of the experts here have been able to propose a fix. Makes the phone virtually worthless if you can't use it in the car etc.
As a workaround, I have found if you mute then unmute the phone volume, the issue is temporarily resolved for a short time. It always comes back though
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Thanks, I'll give that a try. However WM6 has pretty much finished the Wizard for me, and I'm hoping to get a TyTN II soon as a replacement. Shame.

Big trouble with BT handset on Orbit 2. Need Help.

Well....
I happiness owner of XDA Orbit 2 (same as HTC Polaris at other form factor).
All work very fine, but one thing just kill me.
Orbit not work propertly with BT handset (Jabra JX10). I tried all posible ROMs: Bepe, BlackWidow, Rus 6.1, original HTC Polaris (WM6.0), original Germany ROM from O2. With all ROM behavior of BT handset was the same:
1. HardReset
2. Search BT device and connect it
3. Tried make call to anybody (I call to my second phone, but it doest matter)
4. First 1-2 calls all good. Sound good, mic work.
5. Tried incoming call.
6. At handset normal alarm tone, press button and..... first 2-3 sec normal sound good - then just noise (as white noise) and mic blocked.
7. All other calls like char.6. Noise after 2-3 sec.
I tried to changed all posible value. BitPool, BitRate, WaveDev and all other.... Tried stoped many service who can block BT (OBEX, ActiveSync via BT). Nothing change.
I think about hardware malfunction, but when I tried connect other BT device like external GPS reciever or HP notebook - I get normal work via BlueTooth. So, it mean hardware of bluetoth works good and with BT not work only handset.
Please, help me.

I got the same problem, but slightly different: the first 2-3 phonecalls are perfect, then there will be no sound. I tried with my 2 blue tooth headser.
with my headset, it happens 2-3 tims also.
But I met once the phone is not working when I trying normal phonecall without BT ot any headset.
I tried different ROM, it remains the same.

Similar problems with HF Jabra SP5050
Hands-free functioning with my previous cheep Nokia was excellent. Now the same Jabra SP5050 with Polaris: TRAGEDY !!!

qinyugang said:
I got the same problem, but slightly different: the first 2-3 phonecalls are perfect, then there will be no sound. I tried with my 2 blue tooth headser.
with my headset, it happens 2-3 tims also.
But I met once the phone is not working when I trying normal phonecall without BT ot any headset.
I tried different ROM, it remains the same.
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That is.
I tried all BT headset which I have, it Jabra JX10 and Jabra BT10. The same....

Janhura said:
Hands-free functioning with my previous cheep Nokia was excellent. Now the same Jabra SP5050 with Polaris: TRAGEDY !!!
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You mean Nokia BT handset worked with Polaris very well?
What model name its handset? I try to test with my smartphone.
updt. It seems I understood what you mean. So, it my situation. Both Jabra BT headset works good with all my Nokia phones and not work with Orbit 2 (Polaris).

Henry_Lee & others:
Try turn off and on again (5 sec later) Bluetooth on Your Polaris when headset is on. Is it working?
Do it every time you start using headset. Need patch from HTC.

dj_nsk said:
Henry_Lee & others:
Try turn off and on again (5 sec later) Bluetooth on Your Polaris when headset is on. Is it working?
Do it every time you start using headset. Need patch from HTC.
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Yep, its work. Thanks for that. But it black magic and not good solution.
updt. It work until to first sleep (power button) longer than 5-10 min.
Then again needed reboot BT on device. F...k.

So you said you tried all kinds of ROMs. There are some ROMs out there which include the test version of the Radio ROM. I'm a strong believer of the thought, that the Bluetooth part of the test Radio is flawed and leads to results like the one you suffer.
If I were you, I'd check my Radio ROM version and if it doesnt match the shipping one (which tops out at 1.58.21.23) I'd search for that version and flash it. After the flash, a Hardreset might not be the wrong thing to do.

schaggo said:
So you said you tried all kinds of ROMs. There are some ROMs out there which include the test version of the Radio ROM. I'm a strong believer of the thought, that the Bluetooth part of the test Radio is flawed and leads to results like the one you suffer.
If I were you, I'd check my Radio ROM version and if it doesnt match the shipping one (which tops out at 1.58.21.23) I'd search for that version and flash it. After the flash, a Hardreset might not be the wrong thing to do.
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I wrote later that I tried flash original ROM for O2 Orbit 2. It ROM contain radio 21.23. And nothing changes.
But, I not wish change radio ROM. Last radio ROM very well and good quality of GSM and fast GPS more important for me. The more so because, BT still not work.

up.....

At me and many my friends (with Cruis) a similar problem. The first, second call - all is good. Then - break of BT communication. Works with SE is better, the Jabra is worse

andykha said:
At me and many my friends (with Cruis) a similar problem. The first, second call - all is good. Then - break of BT communication. Works with SE is better, the Jabra is worse
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Yep, tha same ****.
Today I tried Motorola H680, it good work with O2....
I think, Orbit2 or Polaris not work with BT headset with bluetooth version 1.1-1.2. Only BT v.2 and it headset just last 1-2 year ago.

Is the problem solved ?
Hi everyone !
I've got the same problem with my Jabra BT Headset. But i've found a way to make it work : in fact you have to get your headset already powered-on when you launch BT on your Cruise. Then, you can have regular calls.
Sometimes, it seems to disconnect by itself, don't know why. You have to power off everything, reconnect BT Headset, then re-launch BT service on Cruise.
Have a try and keep in touch !

It seems to me, a problem not only in version BT 1.2 or 2.0. I speak so since has bought SE 712 w/BT 2.0 and has dug into the same problems.

Have you got some news about BT & Cruise ?

Plantronics 590E with Orbit 2 works flawlessly... Distance, sound quality and voice command function is perfect without any issues..
...and A2DP, AVRCP function is same also... with mp3 or movie files... (..need registry tweaks.. i'm find these tweaks in this forum..)
Sorry for my poor English... :|

Bluetooth still doesn't work properly!

My X1 has a very annoying problem with it's Bluetooth. During a call using Bluetooth handsfree the phone will drop the Bluetooth connection, leaving the call connected so annoyingly the caller can hear me cursing the unreliability of my phone. I then have to finish the conversation holding the phone to my ear without the headset.
I called Sony Ericsson, who told me to update the firmware. I did - to R2AA007 - makes no difference. They then said it was a defective phone, so I got a new one sent to me...
...this one has worked great for a month, but yesterday the battery ran almost flat and whilst on a call using handsfree it started playing up again. Now it does it all the time again, even though the phone has been fully recharged and rebooted.
I have been very careful not to change any settings with this second phone, no installs of anything. This is a Vodafone UK phone if it makes any difference. Any idea how I can get this working again? Even without the handsfree connected I can see the display flash 'Bluetooth on' at random intervals indicating that it keeps dropping. Sony Ericsson say that this is not a firmware issue that needs fixing now - what do you guys think?

there are many posts regarding your problem. one thing is for sure,you are not the only one. look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480698 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471181 here too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448703 i have my mbw-150 and my hbh-pv712 connected at all times to my x1 the watch is always connected but my headset disconnects randomly as you mentioned even during a call. there is no problem with your phone it's a software issue.

Thanks for the links. What annoys me is that Sony tell me there is no problem and they won't report the bug to their firmware team because "it's been fixed in R2A". This isn't the case, and it doesn't give me much hope for firmware R3A.

Same problem here
I experienced the same problem. Got my X1 in december 2008. Problems started in mid Januari, about a month of good Bluetooth operations, it started to give problems. During a call the Bluetooth connnection is lost, but the call stays open. Can reconnect Bluetooth again during the call, but after some time (sometimes seconds, sometimes tens of seconds) the connection get lost again.
Was glad when the new firmware arrived in Feb 2009. Download it, and the problem was gone fore about one month. Mid march the problem started again. Downloaded (the same) firmeware version again and the problem was gone again for some time. Last week it reappeared again
My conclusion: the Bluetooth bug wasn't corrected in the latest firmware version. Just reinstallation of a new firmeware version resets the phone and the the problem is gone then for some time.....
Seems that there some kind of an internal timer/counter that corrupts good bluetooth operations. I don't want to reinstall "firmware" every time again because I have to reconfigure my phone then every time, which takes a lot of time.
I hope that Sony finally will correct this most irritation bug!!!!
In the mean time I use a Bluetooth restart programme that "turns on" bluetooth every second. This helps moth of the time.

This works for me
In the Bluetooth-Device-Manager tap and hold the stylus on the headset you want to use until a popup is shown, then select use as headset. This worked for me when i have had some problems with one of my headsets supporting more than the "Handsfree-Profile" .
=> better connection under R1, best connection under R2(using R2 since official release)
Good luck WOODY

Hey Guys,
I think i have the solution for the bluetooth problem. i had my Xperia since 11/2008.
i never had a problem with connection when i used my headset. the problem was with the I-Drive disconnection randomly.
I flashed multiple roms from Itje and Jack with the same problem always.
now for the past 2 weeks i have been using Itje V5.5 with no problems what so ever.
the key is to turn bluetooth off in the comm manager everytime you wanna install new programs. i truly believe that installing software with the bluetooth on disrupt something ???
Hope that helps.

mdshahed said:
the key is to turn bluetooth off in the comm manager everytime you wanna install new programs. i truly believe that installing software with the bluetooth on disrupt something ???
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Honestly, it make no sense to me....

try it!! it will work ...

@mdshaded
I hope youre kidding, I've had BT problem (BT turns off) since I got this phone last year.
With Itje's WM6.5 RC1 I still have the same problem.

I am not Kidding, I tried all cooked and original roms. I had a pocket PC phone for the past 3 years: Trinity, Kaiser and now the Xperia.
Again my dropped BT Connection were with my Car BT system, never with my Stereo BT headset.
try to hard reset and then install Itje V5.5 and keep your BT off until you are done installing all your programs then turn it on and report back.
Cheers

mdshahed said:
I am not Kidding, I tried all cooked and original roms. I had a pocket PC phone for the past 3 years: Trinity, Kaiser and now the Xperia.
Again my dropped BT Connection were with my Car BT system, never with my Stereo BT headset.
try to hard reset and then install Itje V5.5 and keep your BT off until you are done installing all your programs then turn it on and report back.
Cheers
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I had tried more phones (Eten M600, Asus P525, Kaiser, X1), and did a lot researchs and only HTC's one (Kaiser, X1, Diamond, TP, HD ...etc) gives such issue. Not on my Asus P525 and M600. And I had tried many A2DP devices (Sony: DS-205, DS225, DS970, DS980, Clip-D Radio, Jarba (forget what model), JVC-BT1 (car system)) and only HTC devices give me issue.
And your suggestion of turn off bluetooth while software installation make no sense as installation only perform files coping + registry registration which I don't see any relationship from BT issue.

Dear Jack,
I know it does'nt make any sense. but i had this problem on other devices and was always corrected with a cooked rom except with the Xperia..
there is nothing to lose.. just try it..
my phone had no single dropped connection for 2 weeks now.
All the Best.

what bluetooth issue, ive been using hbh ds-200 since ive got the xperia (used on buses, around the house and alot of places) works great and has a further distance than p1i but only has an issue of button compatability. i think it could be the the bluetooth device ur using or the lack of software. may be wrong completley but hear me out ive had it rnning for ages with music on or durig a phone call cause i cant be bothered to pull out of its case to avoid scratching the phone (i know its stupid) but like i said it is working, for me atleast

same problem ...
I'm experiencing the same problem:
my X1 periodically drops the connection to my BMW iDrive while I'm speaking. But, when I'm not in the car I'm using a plantronics voyager 855 and never had a problem ! So there seems to be a problem with specific bluetooth devices.
Before the X1 I had a touch diamond and it worked without any problems with the same iDrive.
Thomas

Dear Thomas,
i am glad that you mentioned your problem with the I-Drive. I did not have a single drop in BT Connection for 2 weeks now. I truly believe that installing some software impairs the BT connection with my I-Drive.
Again never had any problems with Headsets.
My I-Drive Version I believe was newer than V.25.
Cheers.