I have the Rogers HTC Dream which I bricked this morning.
It got to the state where holding camera + power did not bring up the fastboot menu, and holding home+power did not bring up the recovery menu. All I got was the dreaded Rogers logo.
1) Take out the battery and unplug the USB cable and wait 20 seconds
2) plug in the USB cable
3) The second you insert the battery your phone will automatically turn itself on. Therefore hold the camera button down while putting in the battery.
4) The phone should start up (again a black screen + Rogers logo) and you should see a red box in the top left corner saying "FAST USB"
5) The phone appears frozen, but now you can use ADP to send it a recovery.img.
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fastboot boot recovery.img
For me I installed the recovery.img from "Haykuro's initial root kit" available in step 4 of this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4280573#post4280573
6) After the fastboot command is finished your phone should automatically reset, and enter the Cyanogen recovery menu.
7) Now install the custom ROM as before
EDIT: After following these steps, I can now start my phone using CAMERA + POWER to get into the fastboot menu just like before I bricked my phone.
EDIT #2: I am currently running my phone with the cyanogen 4.1.999 ROM, so everything worked out for me in the end. I should probably mention that I did not "brick" my phone by flashing a new SPL while still running an older radio.img, so Im not sure how far this method will get some of you.
I'm afraid that your device was NOT BRICKED. You just had an incompatible or defective system image and didn't know how to use the bootloader.
THIS WILL NOT WORK on a device that is actually bricked.
martin_secretary said:
I have the Rogers HTC Dream which I bricked this morning.
It got to the state where holding camera + power did not bring up the fastboot menu, and holding home+power did not bring up the recovery menu. All I got was the dreaded Rogers logo.
1) Take out the battery and unplug the USB cable and wait 20 seconds
2) plug in the USB cable
3) The second you insert the battery your phone will automatically turn itself on. Therefore hold the camera button down while putting in the battery.
4) The phone should start up and you should see a red box in the top left corner saying "FAST USB"
5) The phone appears frozen, but now you can use ADP to send it a recovery.img.
Code:
fastboot boot recovery.img
For me I installed the recovery.img from "Haykuro's initial root kit" available in step 4 of this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4280573#post4280573
6) After the fastboot command is finished your phone should automatically reset, and enter the Cyanogen recovery menu.
7)????
I am stuck here, Im still not sure how to proceed to fix my phone, but I know this will help others get to this point, and maybe someone with more expertise can point out where to move on from here.
EDIT: After following these steps, I can now start my phone using CAMERA + POWER to get into the fastboot menu just like before I bricked my phone.
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Perhaps you are right and it was not "truly bricked", but it was in a state where home+power and camera+power did nothing.
Anyone on these forums that would describe this problem would automatically be told they have a new paperweight. Im sure many people just have the same problem as me.
From a POWEROFF state, press and hole HOME (for recovery) or BACK (for fastboot), then press the power button while continuing to hold the HOME or BACK button. That is all there is to it. No magic.
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I'm afraid that your device was NOT BRICKED. You just had an incompatible or defective system image and didn't know how to use the bootloader.
THIS WILL NOT WORK on a device that is actually bricked.
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have you personally tried this?
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From a POWEROFF state, press and hole HOME (for recovery) or BACK (for fastboot), then press the power button while continuing to hold the HOME or BACK button. That is all there is to it. No magic.
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No, that is not magic, but what is really impressive is that in the original post it is stated that
It got to the state where holding camera + power did not bring up the fastboot menu, and holding home+power did not bring up the recovery menu. All I got was the dreaded Rogers logo.
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, and if the OP was actually able to find a way around this, it is the first time I have heard. Since registering, I have read numerous posts on XDA stating that if you cannot get to recovery by home+power and cannot get to fastboot via home+camera, then your phone is "probably bricked". I have yet to read one post with a solution to this situation (not to say they do not exist, just that they are not easy to find if they do exist). I think the OP found something that could be quite useful for many people that find themselves in this situation (such as after flashing the wrong radio for hero).
Now having said that, I must also say that your phone was not bricked. If it were bricked, you could not have made it this far. Thus, it either the case that this was a fluke, or the (quite wonderful, but usually with a low probability) case that you stumbled upon something new, and the concept of a "bricked G1" will need to be redefined.
We need more people in this situation to try this method, that will be the only way to really know what this is.
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No, that is not magic, but what is really impressive is that in the original post it is stated that , and if the OP was actually able to find a way around this, it is the first time I have heard. Since registering, I have read numerous posts on XDA stating that if you cannot get to recovery by home+power and cannot get to fastboot via home+camera, then your phone is "probably bricked". I have yet to read one post with a solution to this situation (not to say they do not exist, just that they are not easy to find if they do exist). I think the OP found something that could be quite useful for many people that find themselves in this situation (such as after flashing the wrong radio for hero).
Now having said that, I must also say that your phone was not bricked. If it were bricked, you could not have made it this far. Thus, it either the case that this was a fluke, or the (quite wonderful, but usually with a low probability) case that you stumbled upon something new, and the concept of a "bricked G1" will need to be redefined.
We need more people in this situation to try this method, that will be the only way to really know what this is.
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As I said, from a POWER OFF STATE.
And no, you do NOT hold home+power, you hold HOME, then PRESS AND RELEASE power while continuing to hold HOME.
He didn't get by anything. He simply didn't push the buttons properly (i.e. pressed them *too late* or while the device was STILL POWERED ON.
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As I said, from a POWER OFF STATE.
And no, you do NOT hold home+power, you hold HOME, then PRESS AND RELEASE power while continuing to hold HOME.
He didn't get by anything. He simply didn't push the buttons properly (i.e. pressed them *too late* or while the device was STILL POWERED ON.
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Why are you so sure about yourself about what buttons I pressed? I booted into recovery mode and fastboot mode MANY times before I "bricked" my phone, so i know how to press the buttons....
yo lbcoder i hold home+power at the same time for a LONG time and it still goes to recovery. Same with camera + power. As long as you hold home before you hold/press power you're good to go. We need more people to tryout this method.
I wonder why lbcoder is so sure of what hes saying....hes been wrong a lot of times in his previous postings...
I got a solution for this. How bout the OP or someone else actually brick there phone and try this method. If they get it back working then hey theres a solution but if not then you know it really wasn't a brick. So who wants a brick.
Plus I would like to know what was the initial problem to make the OP think he had a brick.
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I wonder why lbcoder is so sure of what hes saying....hes been wrong a lot of times in his previous postings...
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If you're going to make such an absurd statement, you better damn well be prepared to back it up.
But since you can't, I hereby nullify your statement and reserve the right to do so for anything you ever state.
@martin:
How can I be sure? Because after you tried several times it eventually worked. You didn't do anything differently the last time except pull the battery, which will have no effect except that you can be certain that you are starting from a fully powered off state. That being the difference proves that one of the following things happened on every one of your previous attempts;
1) You pushed the button too late in the boot sequence (everybody's done this a few times, sometimes several times in a row),
2) The device was never actually powered off. Yes, it can have the appearance of being off without actually being off.
As for other's trying this with their bricks, certainly it might help a very few people out, but no, this is not a magical fix for an IPL CRASH. If the SPL is simply not compatible with the IPL, then no matter what you try, the IPL will never be able to start the SPL. And yes, you MUST start the SPL since that is where the bootloader is, and the home or back or no button signals the bootloader on which way to boot (multiboot). It can go into fastboot (payload within SPL), recovery (recovery partition), normal (boot partition), etc.
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If you're going to make such an absurd statement, you better damn well be prepared to back it up.
But since you can't, I hereby nullify your statement and reserve the right to do so for anything you ever state.
@martin:
How can I be sure? Because after you tried several times it eventually worked. You didn't do anything differently the last time except pull the battery, which will have no effect except that you can be certain that you are starting from a fully powered off state. That being the difference proves that one of the following things happened on every one of your previous attempts;
1) You pushed the button too late in the boot sequence (everybody's done this a few times, sometimes several times in a row),
2) The device was never actually powered off. Yes, it can have the appearance of being off without actually being off.
As for other's trying this with their bricks, certainly it might help a very few people out, but no, this is not a magical fix for an IPL CRASH. If the SPL is simply not compatible with the IPL, then no matter what you try, the IPL will never be able to start the SPL. And yes, you MUST start the SPL since that is where the bootloader is, and the home or back or no button signals the bootloader on which way to boot (multiboot). It can go into fastboot (payload within SPL), recovery (recovery partition), normal (boot partition), etc.
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I've updated my post to state that I did not brick my phone by using an incompatible SPL. However I am saying my phone was in the state where I could not access fast boot or recovery mode.
Look through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4280573#post4280573
and see how many people say they can't access fastboot or recovery anymore....this is the same guide I followed and screwed up my phone. There is more than one way to brick your phone, and I think I found a way to unbrick it in this special case.
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I've updated my post to state that I did not brick my phone by using an incompatible SPL. However I am saying my phone was in the state where I could not access fast boot or recovery mode.
Look through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4280573#post4280573
and see how many people say they can't access fastboot or recovery anymore....this is the same guide I followed and screwed up my phone. There is more than one way to brick your phone, and I think I found a way to unbrick it in this special case.
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Do you have any idea what proportion of "users" can't even press the "enter" button when told to?
And FYI: that thread talks about installing the deathspl (the one that usually makes your phone into a paperweight). Regardless of their statement that it is compatible, it is actually quite unknown/undocumented and therefore compatibility with it is NEVER certain.
The fact that you only THOUGHT you bricked your phone means that you are lucky. Lots of people have ACTUALLY bricked with that SPL.
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If you're going to make such an absurd statement, you better damn well be prepared to back it up.
But since you can't, I hereby nullify your statement and reserve the right to do so for anything you ever state.
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Why the app? winanything will BSOD just by looking at it.
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I'm looking at windows right now...and it didnt bluescreen.....
Do you have any idea what proportion of "users" can't even press the "enter" button when told to?
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Look at how many people use a rooted G1, then look at how many can't..... its a very low proportion. Just because you see some posts in which people complain about not being able to use their phone doesnt make it an accurate representation of "users"
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The fact that you only THOUGHT you bricked your phone means that you are lucky. Lots of people have ACTUALLY bricked with that SPL.
ok, first off....hes using a rogers phones. The buttons are much easier to press than the g1. I highly doubt he would have messed up that many times. And if he couldn't access the SPL or Recovery, its effectively a brick for him. What does it matter how it happened if it did happen. a bad ipl/spl flash is not the only way to brick a phone (though its the most common and most documented) There are many factors to this "brick" that you may or may not know about
why the heck are you sitting here and arguing the definition of a brick. Hes trying to help people who have messed up their phone and giving them one more solution to try to fix their phone before spending money on replacing it. If it doesnt work, so be it. if it worked for even one person, its officially worthwhile for the post to be there.
there is no need to sit there criticizing someone whos trying to help by repeatedly posting the same thing over and over there. I think that your judging him because of his low post count. Martin has greater than adequate knowledge of the dream. but you wouldnt know that because anyone that doesn't have a post count > 100 "can't even press the 'enter' button when told to"
martin_secretary said:
I have the Rogers HTC Dream which I bricked this morning.
It got to the state where holding camera + power did not bring up the fastboot menu, and holding home+power did not bring up the recovery menu. All I got was the dreaded Rogers logo.
1) Take out the battery and unplug the USB cable and wait 20 seconds
2) plug in the USB cable
3) The second you insert the battery your phone will automatically turn itself on. Therefore hold the camera button down while putting in the battery.
4) The phone should start up (again a black screen + Rogers logo) and you should see a red box in the top left corner saying "FAST USB"
5) The phone appears frozen, but now you can use ADP to send it a recovery.img.
Code:
fastboot boot recovery.img
For me I installed the recovery.img from "Haykuro's initial root kit" available in step 4 of this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4280573#post4280573
6) After the fastboot command is finished your phone should automatically reset, and enter the Cyanogen recovery menu.
7) Now install the custom ROM as before
EDIT: After following these steps, I can now start my phone using CAMERA + POWER to get into the fastboot menu just like before I bricked my phone.
EDIT #2: I am currently running my phone with the cyanogen 4.1.999 ROM, so everything worked out for me in the end. I should probably mention that I did not "brick" my phone by flashing a new SPL while still running an older radio.img, so Im not sure how far this method will get some of you.
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i have G1 its stck on G1 screen ... i try to do as you did but wont work at all ???
i cant boot or flashe from sd card ...
any help ?
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I'm looking at windows right now...and it didnt bluescreen.....
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Are you so absolutely dense that you don't know what a JOKE is?
Look at how many people use a rooted G1, then look at how many can't..... its a very low proportion. Just because you see some posts in which people complain about not being able to use their phone doesnt make it an accurate representation of "users"
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I'm talking about users IN GENERAL. I.e. forget about phones, forget about root. Most users are (from the programmer's perspective) absolute MORONS who are barely able to breath on their own. Give a "rooted" phone to a NORMAL user (i.e. a teenage girl), do you expect them to be able to get anything extra out of it? How about trying to talk an average (that's *AVERAGE*, not a geek) teenage girl through the process of rooting her phone? You think that will go well? Definitely not.
ok, first off....hes using a rogers phones. The buttons are much easier to press than the g1.
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That is absolutely not relevant in any way. If he is pressing the buttons WITH THE THING POWERED ON, then it won't work, regardless of how "easy" the buttons are to press.
I highly doubt he would have messed up that many times.
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You are therefore judging him to be of equal technical aptitude to yourself. What do you base this on? The first rule of anything technical is to assume that your end users are complete morons. If they aren't, then so much the better, but you can't make that assumption.
And if he couldn't access the SPL or Recovery, its effectively a brick for him. What does it matter how it happened if it did happen. a bad ipl/spl flash is not the only way to brick a phone (though its the most common and most documented) There are many factors to this "brick" that you may or may not know about
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Fact: If the device is not physically damaged, contains a compatible and valid IPL and a compatible and valid SPL, then it *must* boot up to SPL *as long as the correct procedure is followed*.
The ONLY possible ways to make the device non-functional beyond the possibility of correcting using standard procedure is to have physical damage, corrupt or incompatible IPL, or corrupt or incompatible SPL. There are no other possibilities.
why the heck are you sitting here and arguing the definition of a brick. Hes trying to help people who have messed up their phone and giving them one more solution to try to fix their phone before spending money on replacing it. If it doesnt work, so be it. if it worked for even one person, its officially worthwhile for the post to be there.
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No, he is not providing any information that is not already available for anyone to try. He did nothing at all beyond standard procedure. In his first attempts, he clearly failed to follow standard procedure, in his final attempt, he successfully followed standard procedure and was able to access recovery. This thread is misleading as it offers a solution which, quite frankly, doesn't exist.
there is no need to sit there criticizing someone whos trying to help by repeatedly posting the same thing over and over there. I think that your judging him because of his low post count.
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I post to correct. I post to inform against useless information.
Martin has greater than adequate knowledge of the dream.
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Again, not to put him down, but HOW DO YOU KNOW?
but you wouldnt know that because anyone that doesn't have a post count > 100 "can't even press the 'enter' button when told to"
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Back to basics. You can absolutely NOT assume that everyone else knows what YOU know. You *MUST* assume that they know NOTHING.
Post count? Tell me where you got the impression that I even bothered to look at his post count. I don't care about post count. If the post makes sense and introduced NEW INFORMATION, then the author is making a worthy contribution. If they are just repeating the same crap that *everybody already knows*, then it is a worthless or potentially damaging contribution.
Duh, my phone don't work. I tried and tried and it didn't work. And then finally I followed the directions and it worked.
lbcoder: I am currently a software programmer working for the top 5 biggest tech companies in North America. I am also currently doing my masters in Computer Engineering. Every post of yours has hinted that you think I'm a moron, and you've been very insulting and unhelpful on this message board.
I've pointed out to you many times I did NOT brick my phone by flashing an incorrect SPL. Yes we get it, if an incorrect SPL has been flashed then there is probably no possible way to recover the phone.
However I'm saying that I bricked my phone some other way, and for some reason you wont get that into your head. Im beginning to wonder who the real "moron" is here.
This thread is meant to try and help people whose phones are in the same state mine was. You're just being an ass and hijacking this thread.
P.S. I bet B-man007 has his doubts about whether this method actually works. Yet hes taking a wait-and-see approach, not a calleveryoneamoroncuzIthinkimright approach.
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i have G1 its stck on G1 screen ... i try to do as you did but wont work at all ???
i cant boot or flashe from sd card ...
any help ?
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How did you brick your phone? What guide did you follow, and what step did it fail at?
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Hi
After trying to update one HTC Herald That i received form a friend. It failed at 2% and Herald doent want to boot even boot to bootloader anyone did experience this before????
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After trying to update one HTC Herald That i received form a friend. It failed at 2% and Herald doent want to boot even boot to bootloader anyone did experience this before????
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Is the phone HardSPL???
And try searching the threads first. There's tousands of threads called "Help, I Bricked My Phone!!".
And try starting the phone (where it goes to whichever logo, a T-Mobile or HTC or whatever one, it doesn't matter), and then hold down the camera button. While holding that, press and release the soft reset button. Continue to hold the camea button until you see the screen change to something new (like a white screen or a color-band screen). See if you can then connect your phone to your computer and flash at that point. If your phone is already HardSPLed, then you can just flash via Storage Card.
Also, you can try holding down both the Left and Right softkeys, and while holding those, press the Soft Reset button. That should allow you to Hard Reset your phone, if I remember right. But that won't do anything, most likely, since it'll just go back to the broken ROM. So, basically, don't try that, since it won't work, most likely.
I'm glad to help, but after you've read some of the other threads that have similar issues. Thanks!
What does it do when you turn it on? You can't get it into the bootloader manually at all?
Have you tried the instructions in the first post of this thread?
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What does it do when you turn it on? You can't get it into the bootloader manually at all?
Have you tried the instructions in the first post of this thread?
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He hasn't even responded to me, and I believe I told him to go to bootloader too. Seems like he posted, searched, solved, and then ignored this thread that he uselessly created.
And lol, is that a sticky that you linked to? How big do we have to make stickys until people actually notice them?!?!?
Oh it's sad, very sad. LOL
A few days ago I bricked my phone. I performed a SPL flash which seemed to go ok, the phone rebooted and then just stuck at the first splash screen. I waited for 30 minutes and it was still there.
I then removed the battery, reinserted it, and tried booting into recovery mode. Nothing happened, it just stuck at the first splash screen.
So I removed the battery again, reinserted it, and tried booting into fastboot mode. Nothing happened, it just stuck at the first splash screen.
I repeated these steps a few times with the same result.
I tried booting it with the USB cable attached, the result was the same, and Windows showed the phone as an 'unrecognized device'.
At this point, I was nearly crying, my phone was a brick.
Then, for some reason I tried the following:
-On the PC, i ran the command 'fastboot boot recoveryimage.img'.
-At this point the command says 'waiting for device' (or something like that).
-I removed the battery.
-I Connected USB.
-I inserted the battery.
-I booted the phone while holding the HOME key.
-The phone still froze at the first splash screen, but then suddenly, the waiting fastboot command detected the phone and booted the recovery image! Yay!
That's it. I didn't test it any more thoroughly for obvious reasons, I just reflashed the SPL and everything was back to normal.
I hope this helps someone in the future....
Very nice..
wow seriously, didnt expected that..
good job mate!
btw wat did u do to cause the brick?
Just read the very first line of his post...
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A few days ago I bricked my phone. I performed a SPL flash which seemed to go ok, the phone rebooted and then just stuck at the first splash screen. I waited for 30 minutes and it was still there.
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btw wat did u do to cause the brick
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As I said above, I had been flashing the SPL, and when I rebooted following the flash it was bricked (stuck at first splash screen).
It's weird, because once I managed to get back into fastboot, I simply flashed the same SPL again and it worked fine.
thats not really unbricking your phone. gotta be bricked meaning it wont even go to the splashscreen. and there is no way to unbrick it at that point. Still for those that end up in same situation as you this might help indeed.
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thats not really unbricking your phone. gotta be bricked meaning it wont even go to the splashscreen. and there is no way to unbrick it at that point. Still for those that end up in same situation as you this might help indeed.
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Never seen someone say the splash screen isn't coming up without blaming the hardware. I didn't think that flashing the wrong SPL would case the splash to not come up. I bricked my first phone by stupidly flashing the wrong SPL first before loading an OS. I thought the whole point of using the word 'brick' was when referring to the phone failing to enter 'fastboot' and 'recovery mode'. At that point, the phone would technically be a 'brick'. This has to be the first post I've seen with a possible fix but I could be wrong since I gave up on fixing that phone awhile ago.
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thats not really unbricking your phone. gotta be bricked meaning it wont even go to the splashscreen. and there is no way to unbrick it at that point. Still for those that end up in same situation as you this might help indeed.
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bricking means you can't get to fastboot or recovery no matter what you do.
so he counts as bricking.
this might be a fix for the haykuro spl bricked users..
Well done if we have HTC G1 user with brick phone who want to try this methode and give feedback
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thats not really unbricking your phone. gotta be bricked meaning it wont even go to the splashscreen. and there is no way to unbrick it at that point. Still for those that end up in same situation as you this might help indeed.
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No, You can still get to your splashscreen when the phone is bricked, If you cant turn on the phone then thats called the phone is dead not bricked. As stated already if you can't fastboot, or get to recovery then thats a brick.
Just tried it does not work and I was flash the death spl from haykuro,I am getting a new one but wanted to see if this works and I did not think it would which it didnt.
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Well done if we have HTC G1 user with brick phone who want to try this methode and give feedback
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Posted the fix on the android community forums. I have none person in mind, bricked it applying a spl, but he hasn't relied yet. Keep you informed if he does.
Did you reflash ROM after applying spl..? If you did and it still didn't boot then that should most likely be a brick. Can you boot into recovery right now and tell us your SPL version and radio?
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thats not really unbricking your phone. gotta be bricked meaning it wont even go to the splashscreen. and there is no way to unbrick it at that point. Still for those that end up in same situation as you this might help indeed.
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Yes bricking your phone is when it wont even turn on! In the case of the sapphire when you hold power the led will flsh red quickly once then nothing.
On the blackstone you dont even get the pleasure of the led flash if your phone will turn on there is a way to get it fixed.
When ive been stuck on the bootscreen i have managed to revert using sappimg.nbh (which is 32b in my case) dunno where i got it from but i have it!
sappimg.zip (which is 32A) i got from Amon_RA's post and also have that, ive managed to revert back with both images after being stuck on "red screen of death"
A bit of a personal opinion here:
"Dead" is when the phone doesn't respond to anything, at all.
The charging light does not come on, the power button does nothing, and there is not so much as a flicker in the screen. Also, it is completely inaccessible for hardware debugging (JTAG, serial, USB or otherwise). This usually happens from a hardware problem, or doing something stupid like zero'ing the IPL.
Examples:
- My brother dropped his Nokia N75 in water. It's dead.
- I dropped my Cingular 8125 (HTC Wizard) on the ground. It doesn't power on any more, and plugging it into the charger does nothing. Voltmeter shows a charge running through some areas of the device's motherboard once disassembled. It's dead.
Solutions: Replace, recycle or sell for parts.
"Bricked" is when a purely software problem causes the device to no longer respond.
This may happen on many levels, but usually results in the OS not booting, or booting and being completely unusable (e.g. stopped with kernel panic at OS splash). It may light up and/or show a splash screen, but it fails to enter the bootloader or recovery menus. Its recoverability may vary, but will usually involve a debugging tool and a computer, and likely a copmlete wipe of everything on the device. Even if it's heavily bricked, if it can be recovered via JTAG or similar, it's not "dead".
Examples:
- HTC Dream only goes as far as splash screen, and freezes there. Does not respond to ADB. Does not enter recovery, or bootloader, however fastboot responds.
- HTC Dream shows blank screen, but lights up as if it were powering on. Fastboot does not respond. I connect my HTC ExtUSB Serial dongle to it though, and I'm able to get a response to some commands.
- Western Digital MyBook World Edition NAS powers on, and spins up hard drive, but does not go any farther than that. Front lights do not light up, and no hard disk activity is heard. Networking is not yet enabled. Hard drive can, however, manually be connected to a PC with SATA, and the firmware image re-written to its partitions.
- XBOX (the original) was softmodded, but the dashboard.xbe (the OS shell) was overwritten. It now just stays at the Microsoft logo.
- iPhone was recently jailbroken and SIM unlocked, then Apple pushed an update on me, and my iPhone is in a state where it doesn't enter DFU/Recovery, and when it boots, it says "Emergency calls only."
Solutions: Be very careful not to further brick the device, but use any methods available. Be sure to check documentations, search forums, and then ask questions if unsure. Make sure you finish every process you start.
After this, might just be hardware "damage" (like a power button not working right) or software "errors", like the home screen failing to load because of "Process com.google.android.gapps quit unexpectedly." These are usually relatively easy to fix, or have fixed.
Again, this is just an opinion.
Back on topic though, I seriously wouldn't have probably thought of using fastboot while it's stuck at the G1 screen, unless mine were bricked. Kudos to you, and I hope this works on some other bricked G1's out there (At least ones with the Engineering/Hard/DangerSPL, the stock SPL doesn't support fastboot as far as I know.)
bonesy said:
Yes bricking your phone is when it wont even turn on! In the case of the sapphire when you hold power the led will flsh red quickly once then nothing.
On the blackstone you dont even get the pleasure of the led flash if your phone will turn on there is a way to get it fixed.
When ive been stuck on the bootscreen i have managed to revert using sappimg.nbh (which is 32b in my case) dunno where i got it from but i have it!
sappimg.zip (which is 32A) i got from Amon_RA's post and also have that, ive managed to revert back with both images after being stuck on "red screen of death"
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Won't agree with that, what you describe as a brick is a DEAD mobile. A brick is a useless piece which wont get into any state of recovery. The only thing i will agree with is that if it'll turn on there is a way to get it fixed that's why we even got the word unbricking which is done with many other pieces than Android mobiles.
Hope this will get us closer to a unbricking method which works on all the BRICKED pieces out there.
Good job dude!
Yes, my phone is back!
I bricked my G1 about 2 months ago pretty much the same way marcdbl did.
I gave up on it and sit it aside getting a new MT3G.
Sweet, now I got 2 phones to play with.
Thank You marcdbl
wow sweet news
fishman0919 said:
Yes, my phone is back!
I bricked my G1 about 2 months ago pretty much the same way marcdbl did.
I gave up on it and sit it aside getting a new MT3G.
Sweet, now I got 2 phones to play with.
Thank You marcdbl
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Very glad to hear that your dead or bricked or whatever-you-may-call phone is back to LIVE!!!
So I think this solution works for some certain people. So i think rather than arguing on terminology, better spread this good trick to people who had dead/bricked/whatevery-you-may-call phone. IMHO
Thanks for the solution.
Best,
Thihaz
marcdbl said:
A few days ago I bricked my phone. I performed a SPL flash which seemed to go ok, the phone rebooted and then just stuck at the first splash screen. I waited for 30 minutes and it was still there.
I then removed the battery, reinserted it, and tried booting into recovery mode. Nothing happened, it just stuck at the first splash screen.
So I removed the battery again, reinserted it, and tried booting into fastboot mode. Nothing happened, it just stuck at the first splash screen.
I repeated these steps a few times with the same result.
I tried booting it with the USB cable attached, the result was the same, and Windows showed the phone as an 'unrecognized device'.
At this point, I was nearly crying, my phone was a brick.
Then, for some reason I tried the following:
-On the PC, i ran the command 'fastboot boot recoveryimage.img'.
-At this point the command says 'waiting for device' (or something like that).
-I removed the battery.
-I Connected USB.
-I inserted the battery.
-I booted the phone while holding the HOME key.
-The phone still froze at the first splash screen, but then suddenly, the waiting fastboot command detected the phone and booted the recovery image! Yay!
That's it. I didn't test it any more thoroughly for obvious reasons, I just reflashed the SPL and everything was back to normal.
I hope this helps someone in the future....
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where were you 2 months ago dude? I paid 270€ to change the board on my magic
Good Job! Thanks for the info
I have a N1 and its worked fine for a while then i noticed when i turned it on it just stays at the "X" boot up screen.. I have already tried to reset the phone, clear storage, reboot,, and nothing fixes it. What can i do.. i know there has to be a way to load software back onto it or fix whatever is wrong with this thing. please help and thanks for our time.
can you get into the bootloader menu? by holding trackball and power button?
if yes then follow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
wow,, ive done some programming and flashing to phones before but trying to follow those instructions and make sense of it all, isnt working with me. Thanks for the advice but that thread doesnt help me to much. i tried downloading everything it says i need and i cant figure it out.
rustynuttz said:
I have a N1 and its worked fine for a while then i noticed when i turned it on it just stays at the "X" boot up screen.. I have already tried to reset the phone, clear storage, reboot,, and nothing fixes it. What can i do.. i know there has to be a way to load software back onto it or fix whatever is wrong with this thing. please help and thanks for our time.
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another app2SD thing after flashing a new rom?
well then you know more then me. If you can get into bootloader you should be able to get into recovery mode. You can also toggle USB mode, so you can be connected to your comp. In that case you can push a recovery image.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611829
you can also wipe
etc
its all in that thread or somewhere else on this forum
rustynuttz said:
I have a N1 and its worked fine for a while then i noticed when i turned it on it just stays at the "X" boot up screen.. I have already tried to reset the phone, clear storage, reboot,, and nothing fixes it. What can i do.. i know there has to be a way to load software back onto it or fix whatever is wrong with this thing. please help and thanks for our time.
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Any updates? same thing happened to me.
If in doubt then reflash everything again;
boot
system
and recovery
and start afresh.
see thats the thing,, i can click recovery from the bootloader screen and nothing happens. It will restart and just sit on the same "X" screen. Its very simple to put a phone into a DFU mode or recovery mode for Iphones,Motorolas,blackberry,nokia,samsung,Lg, and a few more i cant think of at the moment. When these phones become corrupt ive learned how to whatever firmware or software i want on dumb thing.. But this HTC is giving me a hard time and i know its something simple.. Most phones have a desktop software that will allow you to mess with phones programming, Itune-iphone/Blackberry-BB desktop Manager/motorola-RSD lite....ect. BUt i cannot find anything really for the HTC or just this N1. A lot of these programs for other brands, once you plug your phone in, will notice that the phone is in a recovery state and offer to do an update or a restore. Now why doesnt the N1 or do they, does google offer something like evryone else does?
rustynuttz said:
see thats the thing,, i can click recovery from the bootloader screen and nothing happens. It will restart and just sit on the same "X" screen. Its very simple to put a phone into a DFU mode or recovery mode for Iphones,Motorolas,blackberry,nokia,samsung,Lg, and a few more i cant think of at the moment. When these phones become corrupt ive learned how to whatever firmware or software i want on dumb thing.. But this HTC is giving me a hard time and i know its something simple.. Most phones have a desktop software that will allow you to mess with phones programming, Itune-iphone/Blackberry-BB desktop Manager/motorola-RSD lite....ect. BUt i cannot find anything really for the HTC or just this N1. A lot of these programs for other brands, once you plug your phone in, will notice that the phone is in a recovery state and offer to do an update or a restore. Now why doesnt the N1 or do they, does google offer something like evryone else does?
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hmmm I understand your frustration. What did you do before it got to the 'X' splash screen?
I'm assumimg you've tried to reflash a different ROM in recovery mode?
rustynuttz said:
Most phones have a desktop software that will allow you to mess with phones programming, Itune-iphone/Blackberry-BB desktop Manager/motorola-RSD lite....ect. BUt i cannot find anything really for the HTC or just this N1. A lot of these programs for other brands, once you plug your phone in, will notice that the phone is in a recovery state and offer to do an update or a restore. Now why doesnt the N1 or do they, does google offer something like evryone else does?
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The SDK can do that
like the others said, try get into recovery and reflash everything
SDK? i just turned the phone on and its stuck on the "Splash" screen just a big ol "X". I press volume down and power and pull up the bootloader menus.. i scroll down to recovery and press enter. and it reboots and stays at the damn "x" screen again. I've chosen everyone of the options it offers in that menu and nothing changes.. You know how when u first open that menu it will scan the SD card? Well it shows up for a second then goes away, and in the split second the green lettering is on the screen i swear it says "no splash image" or something like that. UHHHHhhhg!
Hmm I forgot how to get to get to recovery using physical buttons, sth like: power + trackball, or volume down + trackball i guess, so try that
So it looks like your phone is not rooted and you don't have Amon_Ra recovery maybe you have not even turned on USB debugger? tough luck friend
All is not lost if you can get into fastboot mode trackball and power together then using adb reflash boot,system and recovery images.
Or call Customer Service and trade in for a new Nexus One
if not you have to download the SDK http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
find stock images and reflash like the above post said
duylong186 said:
Or call Customer Service and trade in for a new Nexus One
if not you have to download the SDK http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
find stock images and reflash like the above post said
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agreed....if you haven't "unlocked" the bootloader then i wouldn't bother with any of the suggestions....Call customer care and get a new one before you un-lock it and this mysteriously happens again...THEN, you'll be S-O-L!!
EDIT: Then with the new one, follow all the threads for un-locking, flashing recovery, nand,flash cyan, flash gapps LALALA
DOUBLE EDIT: Althought it sounds all you've done is messed up the recovery image, which you could re-flash. Then you could get into recovery and flash Cyan, having a functioning phone again
What can we do? I dont want to mess with anything again because i know if anything goes wrong i cant get in to download mode.. But i too want to flash the new roms and gps fixes. Is there anyway to make the hardware buttons unlocked?
Why not use adb? I used it and Odin for the first time two days ago flashing this new patch and it was quite simple. I, like you, have a hardware locked handset. Let's hope it didn't take you nearly the same two hours that it took me.
You can root using clockworks and run some of the patch through clockworks too. Try not to use odin unless you really know what you're doing. A lot have odin hang on them. Other than that, you can flash rom using clockworks.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
jonathan3579 said:
Why not use adb? I used it and Odin for the first time two days ago flashing this new patch and it was quite simple. I, like you, have a hardware locked handset. Let's hope it didn't take you nearly the same two hours that it took me.
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I received 1 of the new hardware-locked phones and used adb to get into "download mode" - but odin got stuck and I had to unplug the phone and tried plugging it back in and it didn't work. Once I took the battery out, I got the dreaded "phone to pc" icon. I tried a whole lotta combinations all read here on XDA - nothing worked. One I got that "phone to pc" icon - i was screwed. Adb doesn't work at that point.
Basically - I wouldn't use Odin with one of the newer vibrants - only update.zip stuff
*Just a suggestion*
TWO HOURS! Lucky SOB, took me over 4 hours, but I was at work with nothing better to do then to play with it on and off, google some more, crawl xda, play some more....rinse repeat...
But I don't think there will be an official "fix" as in their eyes nothing is broken. It is as they intended. I'm not really sure if this move was by tmo or samsung, but regardless it's a PITA. I used ADB. The hardest part is getting the drivers in, after that it's easy cake walk thanks to the wealth of knowledge here at xda.
glensta said:
I received 1 of the new hardware-locked phones and used adb to get into "download mode" - but odin got stuck and I had to unplug the phone and tried plugging it back in and it didn't work. Once I took the battery out, I got the dreaded "phone to pc" icon. I tried a whole lotta combinations all read here on XDA - nothing worked. One I got that "phone to pc" icon - i was screwed. Adb doesn't work at that point.
Basically - I wouldn't use Odin with one of the newer vibrants - only update.zip stuff
*Just a suggestion*
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exactly my point. this is what happened to me. but think about this lets say i flash a rom right and you know how sometimes it hangs on the vibrant screen and just stays there. and in order to get it back i am going have to use odin. which i cant.......... so i think i wont mess with anything anymore. Rather just wait for official 2.2 ota update.
Chief Geek said:
TWO HOURS! Lucky SOB, took me over 4 hours, but I was at work with nothing better to do then to play with it on and off, google some more, crawl xda, play some more....rinse repeat...
But I don't think there will be an official "fix" as in their eyes nothing is broken. It is as they intended. I'm not really sure if this move was by tmo or samsung, but regardless it's a PITA. I used ADB. The hardest part is getting the drivers in, after that it's easy cake walk thanks to the wealth of knowledge here at xda.
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Take it back and do a warranty exchange cause the buttons arent working correctly.
I've never tried it because I could never get Kies to connect to my phone, but isn't there a way to update firmware through Kies? I know the i9000 guys use Kies to upgrade, but I think that's only to get drivers and the updates though. I wish Samsung had a better interface than Odin to flash firmware. It's absolute garbage.
Hello, I am new to this android stuff but think I may have a problem and no hardware keys may come into play.
I rooted my phone for no other reason than to remove bloatware
I removed what I new was safe and left alot on the phone just because I was not sure what to remove
Phone was working great and had no problems
I decided I wanted to do a factory reset to remove all my apps and user data etc.....
I did do a titanium back up of my apps so I could easily resinstall if I wanted
I did the reset and now as soon as the phone boots I get TWLauncher force close and just about any other app that tries to load just continuose force close loop
I did not remove the original launcher so I am not sure why this is happening but I cant flash since I cant get into download mode and I cant use ADB since my phone wont let me put into debug what to do?????????????
glensta said:
I received 1 of the new hardware-locked phones and used adb to get into "download mode" - but odin got stuck and I had to unplug the phone and tried plugging it back in and it didn't work. Once I took the battery out, I got the dreaded "phone to pc" icon. I tried a whole lotta combinations all read here on XDA - nothing worked. One I got that "phone to pc" icon - i was screwed. Adb doesn't work at that point.
Basically - I wouldn't use Odin with one of the newer vibrants - only update.zip stuff
*Just a suggestion*
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This is how I got out of "phone to pc"
get into download mode (i went through it manually, as in plug in the phone, and pressing the volume buttons together at the same time)
Connected to ODIN, and by perfect accident, I clicked on "start" without placing ANY files in ANY spots.
This is what I thought "OMG $h!t" Well my phone was already bricked enough, so i just let it run its course through ODIN. My phone magically rebooted, and it booted into the ROM i had installed before I got the "phone to pc" problem.
Whats the disadvantage of having a hardware locked phone?
From what I'm reading i cant load custom roms? or can use Oden?
Also I just got mine and im sure its hardware locked but how can I tell
TIA
demo23019 said:
Whats the disadvantage of having a hardware locked phone?
From what I'm reading i cant load custom roms? or can use Oden?
Also I just got mine and im sure its hardware locked but how can I tell
TIA
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The disadvantage is that it is harder (maybe impossible in some situations?) to get into the Download mode if something goes wrong during a ROM update. You can still load custom ROMS but if something goes wrong, you might not be able to get to Download mode to be able to fix it.
I had the phone ! PC screen on mine when I first tried to unsuccessfully flash Vibrant8. Luckily, my Vibrant doesn't seem to be hardware locked and I was able to get back into Download mode and re-flash it with Odin.
I'm able to access download mode with volume keys and i can access recovery mode so i guess im ok
also date on box is 8/27/10
How do you know whether you have a hardware locked Vibrant or not?
No No No.......
When you can't get into Download MOde....
assuming you just got a Hang in ODIN Flasher...
1. Un-plug usb from Phone ( But still plugged into the Computer )
2. Pull Battery
3. Let the Phone sit for 15 to 30 seconds
4. Plug in USB to Both Phone & PC if not already
5. Hold Both Volume Buttons
6. Put Battery in while still holding Volume Buttons.
My Phone is HW Locked as well, with a v1 board.
every-time I get odin hang, doing the above always results in letting me re-flash.
These Phone's by Design are hard to brick, unless you>
A. Change SBL
B. Use the Wrong .pit file for Partitioning
C. param.lfs does not Brick the Phone, but Does mess with Screen rendering
~Eugene
eugene373 said:
No No No.......
When you can't get into Download MOde....
assuming you just got a Hang in ODIN Flasher...
1. Un-plug usb from Phone ( But still plugged into the Computer )
2. Pull Battery
3. Let the Phone sit for 15 to 30 seconds
4. Plug in USB to Both Phone & PC if not already
5. Hold Both Volume Buttons
6. Put Battery in while still holding Volume Buttons.
My Phone is HW Locked as well, with a v1 board.
every-time I get odin hang, doing the above always results in letting me re-flash.
These Phone's by Design are hard to brick, unless you>
A. Change SBL
B. Use the Wrong .pit file for Partitioning
C. param.lfs does not Brick the Phone, but Does mess with Screen rendering
~Eugene
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I trust what you're saying.. but is there any way to test that out without having an already bricked phone? I want to make sure I can recover my phone before flashing your Vibrant hybrid ROM. So after Step 6 do you get the download mode screen? Or does ODIN now show a COM port and it works, even without the little digger guy?
eugene373 said:
No No No.......
When you can't get into Download MOde....
assuming you just got a Hang in ODIN Flasher...
1. Un-plug usb from Phone ( But still plugged into the Computer )
2. Pull Battery
3. Let the Phone sit for 15 to 30 seconds
4. Plug in USB to Both Phone & PC if not already
5. Hold Both Volume Buttons
6. Put Battery in while still holding Volume Buttons.
My Phone is HW Locked as well, with a v1 board.
every-time I get odin hang, doing the above always results in letting me re-flash.
These Phone's by Design are hard to brick, unless you>
A. Change SBL
B. Use the Wrong .pit file for Partitioning
C. param.lfs does not Brick the Phone, but Does mess with Screen rendering
~Eugene
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First off, absolutely no disrespect Eugene, you are an amazing developer and a HUGE contribution to this forum, I personally love your work and have tried many of your ROM's (actually looking at switching up to your newest hybrid rom next), but there are most certainly some of these phones that are hardware locked to the point that you can not get in to download mode, regardless of what you do. The steps you posted definitely work for some, and for non-hardware locked phones, they work beautifully, however, there are some phones that no matter what you do, no matter what order you do it in, you will never get in to download mode short of using ADB. The good news is, the lockout was not intentional, and exchanging your hardware locked Vibrant will generally result in a non-hardware locked phone (from mine, and many other's personal experience).
johnny12times said:
First off, absolutely no disrespect Eugene, you are an amazing developer and a HUGE contribution to this forum, I personally love your work and have tried many of your ROM's (actually looking at switching up to your newest hybrid rom next), but there are most certainly some of these phones that are hardware locked to the point that you can not get in to download mode, regardless of what you do. The steps you posted definitely work for some, and for non-hardware locked phones, they work beautifully, however, there are some phones that no matter what you do, no matter what order you do it in, you will never get in to download mode short of using ADB. The good news is, the lockout was not intentional, and exchanging your hardware locked Vibrant will generally result in a non-hardware locked phone (from mine, and many other's personal experience).
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Download Mode is controlled by SBL, so if they truly changed anything that would be the cause.
I would think you could target redbend to update the SBL or even boot.bin bml /stl location.. I've not tried this, nor do I need too.. Just tossing options out there for people to try & don't mind risking a brick..
If you can get the SBL / Boot.bin for the Stock to flash via redbend, then this will solve the HW locks.. Now, Regarding my Phone, I can still get into Download Mode however, only by doing the USB trick &/or ADB reboot download.
I can not get into recovery unless I use clockwork Manager or ADB into
By the way, this is not a Hardware Lock issue as the thread states.. Not being able to get into download Mode like described, is a zImage issue & not the SBL / BOOT.bin
just as a FYI.
~Eugene
Hello, I am new to this android stuff but think I may have a problem and no hardware keys may come into play.
I rooted my phone for no other reason than to remove bloatware
I removed what I new was safe and left alot on the phone just because I was not sure what to remove
Phone was working great and had no problems
I decided I wanted to do a factory reset to remove all my apps and user data etc.....
I did do a titanium back up of my apps so I could easily resinstall if I wanted
I did the reset and now as soon as the phone boots I get TWLauncher force close and just about any other app that tries to load just continuose force close loop
I did not remove the original launcher so I am not sure why this is happening but I cant flash since I cant get into download mode and I cant use ADB since my phone wont let me put into debug what to do?????????????
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Its happening because you ran a full titanium backup including system data. Yeah, dont do that. Reflash, then reinstall user apps with data, and pick and choose the system ones that are obvious (mms, bluetooth settings, wireless settings, etc.) Then reboot for changes to take effect. When in doubt, dont restore.
Good luck. Although you won't need it if you do what I just told you.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
Just to share...
eugene373 said:
No No No.......
When you can't get into Download MOde....
assuming you just got a Hang in ODIN Flasher...
1. Un-plug usb from Phone ( But still plugged into the Computer )
2. Pull Battery
3. Let the Phone sit for 15 to 30 seconds
4. Plug in USB to Both Phone & PC if not already
5. Hold Both Volume Buttons
6. Put Battery in while still holding Volume Buttons.
My Phone is HW Locked as well, with a v1 board.
every-time I get odin hang, doing the above always results in letting me re-flash.
These Phone's by Design are hard to brick, unless you>
A. Change SBL
B. Use the Wrong .pit file for Partitioning
C. param.lfs does not Brick the Phone, but Does mess with Screen rendering
~Eugene
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I had the phone!computer bricked Vibrant, and just got my replacement from Asurion (in fact, of the phones in front of me are from Asurion since my original got stolen 2days after it came out ).
On phone1: The original TMO date is 8/12/2010, while the Asurion date is 8/19/2010. Also the ID is GJ/HLP. This one was HW Locked.
On phone2: The original TMO date is 9/2/2010, while the Asurion date is 9/10/2010. Also the ID is SM/HLP. This one doesn't seem to be HW Loocked, I can get into recovery easily, DL Mode ... not so much . Booting with vol+&- gets me into recovery, but booting with just vol- does nothing ...
Any thoughts?
I hope someone can help me. I've been scouring the blogs but couldn't find anything that could help me and I'm stuck. I have a mytouch 3g slide and all of a sudden it keeps rebooting and won't turn completely on...it just keeps rebooting non-stop. I tried taking out the battery overnight and putting it back in, held the volume down button + power button which brought me to the HBOOT screen and only showed FASTBOOT, RECOVERY, CLEAR STORAGE & SIMLOCK. When I tried clicking on RECOVERY it just reboots my phone and does it over and over again, same thing when I do CLEAR STORAGE. I've tried this both with the SD card in and out and it would still not take me to where there's the red triangle...just keeps rebooting. Everything else I've seen on forums tells me to unroot/reroot, reformat, flash etc but since whatever I do it just reboots I can't do it. Other details of my phone are the following:
EXPRESSO PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.02.0000
MICROP-0620
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0102
RADIO-7.07.35.02S
Nov 26 2010, 20:43:01
CM7
I'm sorry but I'm pretty new to this and I get lost with the terms so I'm trying to be as detailed as I can. I really do hope someone can help me
ka-dork said:
I hope someone can help me. I've been scouring the blogs but couldn't find anything that could help me and I'm stuck. I have a mytouch 3g slide and all of a sudden it keeps rebooting and won't turn completely on...it just keeps rebooting non-stop. I tried taking out the battery overnight and putting it back in, held the volume down button + power button which brought me to the HBOOT screen and only showed FASTBOOT, RECOVERY, CLEAR STORAGE & SIMLOCK. When I tried clicking on RECOVERY it just reboots my phone and does it over and over again, same thing when I do CLEAR STORAGE. I've tried this both with the SD card in and out and it would still not take me to where there's the red triangle...just keeps rebooting. Everything else I've seen on forums tells me to unroot/reroot, reformat, flash etc but since whatever I do it just reboots I can't do it. Other details of my phone are the following:
EXPRESSO PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.02.0000
MICROP-0620
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0102
RADIO-7.07.35.02S
Nov 26 2010, 20:43:01
CM7
I'm sorry but I'm pretty new to this and I get lost with the terms so I'm trying to be as detailed as I can. I really do hope someone can help me
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It sounds as if your phone is toast... however, you could try going to the HTCdev.com site and doing the unlock procedure (which is going to require you to enter fastboot, so if that's not working, you're truly toast).
Once you've got that done, you can then flash a new recovery, like clockworkmod, and see if you can then use that to clear storage, or flash a new ROM.
Alternatively, you could try to just reinstall the froyo update from T-Mobile/HTC.
Thanks
jonnycat26 said:
It sounds as if your phone is toast... however, you could try going to the HTCdev.com site and doing the unlock procedure (which is going to require you to enter fastboot, so if that's not working, you're truly toast).
Once you've got that done, you can then flash a new recovery, like clockworkmod, and see if you can then use that to clear storage, or flash a new ROM.
Alternatively, you could try to just reinstall the froyo update from T-Mobile/HTC.
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Thanks for the help, jonnycat26. I really appreciate it. It does seem my phone is pretty much toast I tried unlocking it as you said but you're right, it won't let me enter fastboot and my PC couldn't detect the phone since it won't turn on.
I was wondering though, would you happen to have any idea what caused this? It would be good to know so I don't make the same mistake next time around. Thanks again!
Wait! Your phone isn't toast! Download the RUU from the htc website, run it on windows, take the rom.zip from %TEMP%, rename it to ESPRIMG.zip and put it on your sdcard, then boot into Hboot, and it'll reflash the system.
Hitorijanae said:
Wait! Your phone isn't toast! Download the RUU from the htc website, run it on windows, take the rom.zip from %TEMP%, rename it to ESPRIMG.zip and put it on your sdcard, then boot into Hboot, and it'll reflash the system.
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Thanks, Hitorijanae! I'll try that and let you know how it goes.
Hi Hitorijanae,
Okay I'm not sure if I did it right. I saved it to my sdcard as ESPRIMG.zip as you said and then did the volume down + power thing and it brought me to the screen with the 3 androids (sorry not quite sure if that's the HBOOT page that you were talking about). Anyway it did the SD checking. Does it make a difference if it says [ESPRDIAG.zip] no image or wrong image? Anyway it loaded up the ESPRIMG.zip and then asked me if I wanted to update it and I said yes. After that it asked if I wanted to reboot and when I said yes it just rebooted over and over again like my previous problem. I tried also choosing no and it brought me back to HBOOT and my only options were FASTBOOT, RECOVERY, CLEAR STORAGE & SIMLOCK. Choosing FASTBOOT just brings me to reload bootloader, etc.; choosing RECOVERY my phone just reboot loops again and same if I choose CLEAR STORAGE.
I'm not sure if I'm doing it wrong or just screwing it up even more. Sorry for all the questions but I keep getting stuck. I would appreciate all the help I can get.
ka-dork said:
Hi Hitorijanae,
Okay I'm not sure if I did it right. I saved it to my sdcard as ESPRIMG.zip as you said and then did the volume down + power thing and it brought me to the screen with the 3 androids (sorry not quite sure if that's the HBOOT page that you were talking about). Anyway it did the SD checking. Does it make a difference if it says [ESPRDIAG.zip] no image or wrong image? Anyway it loaded up the ESPRIMG.zip and then asked me if I wanted to update it and I said yes. After that it asked if I wanted to reboot and when I said yes it just rebooted over and over again like my previous problem. I tried also choosing no and it brought me back to HBOOT and my only options were FASTBOOT, RECOVERY, CLEAR STORAGE & SIMLOCK. Choosing FASTBOOT just brings me to reload bootloader, etc.; choosing RECOVERY my phone just reboot loops again and same if I choose CLEAR STORAGE.
I'm not sure if I'm doing it wrong or just screwing it up even more. Sorry for all the questions but I keep getting stuck. I would appreciate all the help I can get.
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When it's booting up, go into the command prompt, cd to the directory with adb and then do adb logcat.
Hitorijanae said:
When it's booting up, go into the command prompt, cd to the directory with adb and then do adb logcat.
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When I do that it only says -waiting on device- and nothing else. I tried doing the unlock bootloader thing but when it comes to the part after I type in fastboot oem get_identifier_token it just says waiting on device as well. Any other suggestions? I'm not really a dev so I'm not very confident if what I'm doing is right and I get lost sometimes with what you ask me to do but I try to look it up online to get a better understanding of it and then try it before I ask too many questions. I appreciate your patience with me though and for all your help, Hitorijanae and jonnycat26. I'd like to go on if there's still hope for my phone :crying:
ka-dork said:
When I do that it only says -waiting on device- and nothing else. I tried doing the unlock bootloader thing but when it comes to the part after I type in fastboot oem get_identifier_token it just says waiting on device as well. Any other suggestions? I'm not really a dev so I'm not very confident if what I'm doing is right and I get lost sometimes with what you ask me to do but I try to look it up online to get a better understanding of it and then try it before I ask too many questions. I appreciate your patience with me though and for all your help, Hitorijanae and jonnycat26. I'd like to go on if there's still hope for my phone :crying:
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Alright, go into HBOOT, then hit power button to go into fastboot. Plug it up, and type fastboot devices in the command prompt.
Thanks!
Hitorijanae said:
Alright, go into HBOOT, then hit power button to go into fastboot. Plug it up, and type fastboot devices in the command prompt.
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Hi, Hitorijanae!
Sorry for the late reply and things got a bit crazy over here. I had my phone checked and it was a hardware problem so they had to open it up and stuff and now it's all good but I have to be extra careful not to drop or accidentally hit my phone or else it's screwed again. I just wanted to thank you for all your help though
Do you know what was the issue? (Loose cable, failed component, etc)
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Do you know what was the issue? (Loose cable, failed component, etc)
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The guy said it was a hardware issue. Something broke off inside and damaged the memory (I accidentally dropped my phone a few days before my phone went bonkers on me). I wish I could explain it better but for the life of me I can't remember the things the guy said right now but he had to open it up and weld the broken bit back together.
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The guy said it was a hardware issue. Something broke off inside and damaged the memory (I accidentally dropped my phone a few days before my phone went bonkers on me). I wish I could explain it better but for the life of me I can't remember the things the guy said right now but he had to open it up and weld the broken bit back together.
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Solder, not weld, but I understand completely. I had to replace the power button and digitizer on mine.
GoPadge said:
Solder, not weld, but I understand completely. I had to replace the power button and digitizer on mine.
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LOL! Yeah, goes to show you how much I know about this stuff I just have to be extra careful with my phone...I hope it holds up for a bit longer.