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anybody else think the touch vogue & qvga is going to be making a huge comeback? all i see are threads with people selling their touch pros and diamonds to go back to the vogue. i think it is one of htc's most valued ppc's. also with android running so well on it now i really think alot of users will be coming back.
thoughts?
People want the latest & greatest. I don't even want the Vogue but is what I am stuck with because of the stupid thinking over at Verizon. I don't have a data plan & you can only get the touch Pro if you are on a data plan.
No other handset is as mature in the Android space. It is an amazing OS running well enough for everyday use.
I'm keeping my Vogue until I can get an Android phone.
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I'm keeping my Vogue until I can get an Android phone.
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Same here. I'm even abandoning my Diamond for it now. How sad is that? Sure speaks volumes about WinMo...
los1223 said:
Same here. I'm even abandoning my Diamond for it now. How sad is that? Sure speaks volumes about WinMo...
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+1
Android is insanely convenient.
Android feels like another Iphone thing... cant customize like winmo which is what i love so ill wait till diamond2 or touchpro2 comes out on Sprint
still loving my phone
fireshaper said:
I'm keeping my Vogue until I can get an Android phone.
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x2... I'm locked into my Alltel/Verizon? Contract til 2010 but luckily I picked up the last two in-stock Vogues they had for the wifey and me for only $80/ea. I initially regretted my decision but now that Android on the Vogue has matured so much that it can be used for everyday use I'm more than thrilled with the decision. Happy to be Rockin' the Vogue!!!
jadesse said:
People want the latest & greatest. I don't even want the Vogue but is what I am stuck with because of the stupid thinking over at Verizon. I don't have a data plan & you can only get the touch Pro if you are on a data plan.
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Same, even though the Vogue has worked out for me. I still would rather have a touch pro, or the touch pro 2 once it comes out.
I'd really like to have the Moto Schole thats coming out after using Android on the Vogue, its a nice OS.
magicalan said:
Android feels like another Iphone thing... cant customize like winmo which is what i love so ill wait till diamond2 or touchpro2 comes out on Sprint
still loving my phone
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WM is a terrible platform, it doesnt offer anything that android doesnt or at some point wont. Android even runs better on the vogue which was designed for WM. I just dont see why anyone would voluntarily choose WM overandroid. It would be great, if this was 2003.
magicalan said:
Android feels like another Iphone thing... cant customize like winmo which is what i love so ill wait till diamond2 or touchpro2 comes out on Sprint
still loving my phone
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You can absolutely customize Android. There are apps on the market and tons of downloadable themes. The apps cost a bit of money, and being that we're not really "stable" yet, I haven't bothered to buy them.
And need I point out mssmison's themed builds?
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You can absolutely customize Android. There are apps on the market and tons of downloadable themes. The apps cost a bit of money, and being that we're not really "stable" yet, I haven't bothered to buy them.
And need I point out mssmison's themed builds?
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yeah but most of the apps and themes are for "root" only, we can't have that yet.
fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but most of the apps and themes are for "root" only, we can't have that yet.
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I believe that was fixed today, although I may be mistaken on exactly what that entails.
Anyway, I tried the free "Lite" version of a couple theming apps a while back, and they worked fine. I forget what the difference between Lite and Full were though.
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yeah but most of the apps and themes are for "root" only, we can't have that yet.
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Dude, what apps are you trying to run that require root? I've seen you post this several times while looking around the forums today. I've never had an app intalled that wouldn't run because I wasn't root.
i have two questions.
first is ,will there ever be full flash support on our beloved hd2 like on nokia n900 and is anybody working on that?
second is i tried to install flash lite fix for opera but i cant update opera with update cab that is here on forum and flash fix by itself doesnt work.
sorry for bad english.
with best regards.
Oh how dare you talk like that
replies like that tarnish the reputation of the forum. and make people feel unwelcome. i know you find it frustrating, but could be his first wm phone, and perhaps now his last. perhaps next time they will become isheep.
Wow, what a lovely mood you're in, Audio Oblivion.
Anyway, a quick search would have helped you, but here is a solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544770
im in a foul mood today... apologies to the OP.
but damn... how many times?!!?!?!?!?
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that time of the month love.....?
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the next person that asks how to get their device to support flash will simply get my stare of death.
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the next person that asks how to get their device to support flash will simply get my stare of death.
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so tell me again, how do we get flash on our phones.......lol.
go for a beer an chill dude.
i am sorry to insult your great intelligence but the thing is that ie has flash lite 3.1. i am asuming that this is some kind of lighter version of full flash for example flash 9.4 which nokia n900 has. i am talking about real flash.
and yes i know about skyfire but that browser is just not satisfying for me.
Jawb said:
Wow, what a lovely mood you're in, Audio Oblivion.
Anyway, a quick search would have helped you, but here is a solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544770
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and thank you for this post i just tried with something other and it didnt work . i will try this now.
the_bulk said:
i have two questions.
first is ,will there ever be full flash support on our beloved hd2 like on nokia n900 and is anybody working on that?
second is i tried to install flash lite fix for opera but i cant update opera with update cab that is here on forum and flash fix by itself doesnt work.
sorry for bad english.
with best regards.
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The answer is yes it's coming. Adobe have just released a video of the full Flash 10.1 on the HD2 and Nexus One. Should be hitting our phones over the next few months.
Don't bother with IE and people telling you that IE already supports it. It's a waste of time.
http://v3.nu/8ZSLUZ
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The answer is yes it's coming. Adobe have just released a video of the full Flash 10.1 on the HD2 and Nexus One. Should be hitting our phones over the next few months.
Don't bother with IE and people telling you that IE already supports it. It's a waste of time.
http://v3.nu/8ZSLUZ
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ok. thanks for smart answer. it is just pissing me off when they say that ie has flash and they probably never even saw it...
flash in IE is a load of toss and does not work with most sites. Try a streaming music site like We7 from IE and see if you get it to work.
does flash lite 3.1 in the opera mobile beta support text input in flash apps on the hd2?
Example evony.com
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Have tidied up this thread. Foul and abusive language against fellow forum members is against the rules and is a banning offence, as is homophobic abuse.
Think before you post and please stay on topic. I'm definitely not going to be this generous next time. In fact there should not be a next time.
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The answer is yes it's coming. Adobe have just released a video of the full Flash 10.1 on the HD2 and Nexus One. Should be hitting our phones over the next few months.
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Alas, there is a news story doing the rounds today which makes it clear that Adobe has cancelled the project to offer Flash player on Windows Mobile.
Link: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/550281?tstart=30
As for WinMo, we have made the tough decision to defer support for that platform until WinMo7. This is due to the fact that WinMo6.5 does not support some of the critical APIs that we need.
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I suspect that excuse is bullsh*t; more likely Adobe has realised that Windows Mobile as a platform is dead (now that Microsoft has confirmed that WP7 is not backwards compatible) and has decided to jump straight to writing for WP7 instead. I suspect any other number of other commercial software developers will follow suit....
This is such a shame, I was very much looking forward to real flash support. Skyfire just doesn't cut it.
Damn!
NO. Adobe has abandoned WIndows Mobile 6.5 and cancelled the developement for flash 10.1 on our devices. No Flash for our device period. WinMO 6.5 is dead.
Yes, it is a shame indeed. I wouldn't say WinMo 6.5x is dead tho, far from it.
I wouldn't be suprised if XDA guys are able to extract flash from winmo7, that would be awesome!
hey, i have flash lite on my phone htc but it does not work. i have download opera mini 5 beta. i want to get flash 10.1 working on the hd2i gone to the flash website and tried to download it for window mobile. i have tried to find cab files for flash 10.1. any help would be very grateful.
10.1 for WM does not exist, and quite possibly never will.
You're wrong Adobe Flash 10.1 will be released for WIndows Phone 7 Series at the end of the year.
Yep, for WP7S, but NOT for WM, as he said.
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You're wrong Adobe Flash 10.1 will be released for WIndows Phone 7 Series at the end of the year.
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The TS said 10.1 on the HD2! cant u read? no hd2 users will never get Flah 10.1
theres a video on youtube of flash 10.1 running on an hd2
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theres a video on youtube of flash 10.1 running on an hd2
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HTC said 2 months ago that HD2 users will get free WP7 upgrades when it was released.
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You're wrong Adobe Flash 10.1 will be released for WIndows Phone 7 Series at the end of the year.
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Sorry, but no, I am not wrong. Flash 10.1 does not exist and never will for WM, and that is still true.
WM is Windows Mobile a.k.a 6.5
Windows Phone is a different thing, and it does not exist on the HD2 either.
It's Microsoft's fault for such a stupid naming convention, and Adobe and Microsoft's fault for being too lazy to make it happen for WM.
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Sorry, but no, I am not wrong. Flash 10.1 does not exist and never will for WM, and that is still true..
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Plain wrong. Flash 10.1 running on HD2, Adobe TV:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/flash-platform-in-action/htc-hd2-and-nexus-one/
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I am not wrong. Flash 10.1 does not exist and never will for WM, and that is still true.
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Well you would technically be wrong for saying it does not exist. There obviously are builds out there as Adobe has videos up showing Flash 10.1 running on Windows Mobile 6.5
Now will we ever see these builds? Most likely not, but I think adobe should atleast release what they have so far, I mean their work would be wasted otherwise lol.
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Plain wrong. Flash 10.1 running on HD2, Adobe TV:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/flash-platform-in-action/htc-hd2-and-nexus-one/
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Oh come on, stop playing with words. It exists, at least in a beta stage, OK, but since then adobe announced they stopped working on it and would not release it. So, to us, it doesn't exist, and simply won't.
Why did they stop working on it? Thats retarded. . . .
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Why did they stop working on it? Thats retarded. . . .
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Well, officially, it's because they discovered WM6.5 lacks some crucial api's necessary to make it work; but that's obviously a lie. The real reason is because of the announcement that WP7S won't be backwards-compatible with Windows Mobile - that is, nothing designed for WM will run on WP. Adobe, like many others, have therefore abandoned the WM platform and started to develop for WP7S instead.
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HTC said 2 months ago that HD2 users will get free WP7 upgrades when it was released.
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No they didn't. The HD2 will not get an official upgrade to WP7S; that is now confirmed beyond doubt.
Well, I'm still getting this phone because WM is great.
Plus the potential of android.
Guys! Stop this WP7S upgrade-or-not flameware please! The new Windows is going to be an iPhone-wannabe(it will lack copy paste as well, perfect!). Is current WM6 so bad?
Now, let me answer the thread author: download the latest Opera Mobile(not Mini). Open it's settings, go to advanced and activate plugins. It will play videos, even flash games will run. It flash runs quite good.
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Guys! Stop this WP7S upgrade-or-not flameware please! The new Windows is going to be an iPhone-wannabe(it will lack copy paste as well, perfect!). Is current WM6 so bad?
Now, let me answer the thread author: download the latest Opera Mobile(not Mini). Open it's settings, go to advanced and activate plugins. It will play videos, even flash games will run. It flash runs quite good.
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EXACLTY MY OPINION. iPhone :
-no copy and paste
-no microSD card
-no multitasking
Any difference between this and WP7 ? NO. Some patent violations are coming Micro$oft's way, LOL. Anyway, the HD2 is really slow. For Flash, you need a BEAST of a CPU, no chance.
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Plain wrong. Flash 10.1 running on HD2, Adobe TV:
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there's nothing wrong with being hopefull but being ignorant at the same time is something else.
Adobe cancelled the release for winmo 6.5.x and we are going to have to live with it....well legally speaking.... have faith object xda ,and paitence there will be flash in the future, or buy a Htc Desire if u want flash in april
Okay. We all know that Flash 10.1 DOES exist for the HD2. We've all seen it from adobe from the videos. Admit it. It's just that it has never been released. Will it ever get released? Well, that's just a question if someone fro the inside is willing to leak it to us. If so, WM will live on! Forget WP7S.
heliumv2 said:
You're wrong Adobe Flash 10.1 will be released for WIndows Phone 7 Series at the end of the year.
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The TS said 10.1 on the HD2! cant u read? no hd2 users will never get Flash 10.1
http://www.neowin.net/news/download-windows-8-developer-preview-tonight-at-8-pm-pdt
heres your chance to try out the next version of windows. the links go live at 8pm pacific standard time.
x86 & x64 flavors will be available as well.
let´s give it a try
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let´s give it a try
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yeah i think this will replace my osx86 install. just be aware the servers will be jam packed tonight.
Hell yeah! Can't wait to try this out
Wicked!
Shame there's no ARM support in today's release though, would have loved to see W8 on the Tab, Touchpad or Xoom
Windows 8 ? First cousin to Vista ? Just another new system to have the bugs worked out of it ? No thanks.
XP Pro forever !!!
Cool, I thought they will release it later...
I have a feeling windows 8 is gonna be hard to get used to
If you're a technical person it will take you about 7 seconds.
If you can't get used to it, I'll politely ask you to GTFO and never enter this forum again
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I have a feeling windows 8 is gonna be hard to get used to
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as long as i can shut of metro ill be good to go.
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Cool, I thought they will release it later...
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this is a pre-release beta, no where near final but suppose to be very stable.
If you can't download it tonight, it sure will be available in torrent form soon enough.
I'm ready. I'm about to format my PC reinstalling W7, and Will make an extra partition for W8.
You can see the keynote speech here: http://www.buildwindows.com/
Looks interesting, but will hold judgement until I can have a play. Not sure how well it will work on a non-touch laptop or pc.
Anandtech's hands on with it. At the start they use it with a bluetooth kb+mouse before switching to touch.
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You can see the keynote speech here: http://www.buildwindows.com/
Looks interesting, but will hold judgement until I can have a play. Not sure how well it will work on a non-touch laptop or pc.
Anandtech's hands on with it. At the start they use it with a bluetooth kb+mouse before switching to touch.
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All I have to say is this is horrible, absolutely horrible. What have they done?!
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I_am_Error said:
All I have to say is this is horrible, absolutely horrible. What have they done?!
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We can always switch to apple?
I support users who find XP and Word difficult to use, W8 from a business point of view at first glance is going to be hell.
I can see the support calls now:
"I've lost word, it was there a minute ago and now it's gone"
"Why does this keep appearing when I touch the edge of the screen?"
Or more likely in 2 years time "We've bought a new PC, install XP on it like all the rest"
Someone tell me we can hide Metro, please?
Otherwise MS will have missed the point again. We use interfaces designed for finger input on our phones/tablets because it is practical not because it is the best method (which clearly it isn't) . Likewise we use a keyboard/mouse on a PC rather than touch because they are more efficient.
The download is live on dev.windows.com. Just FYI
The Metro UI in Windows 8 can be deactivated and you can have the "normal" desktop style.
Downloading now!
Not as slow as I thought, sure later when more ppl download will be slower...
Downloading.. Somehow this just doesn't seem so promising as windows 7.. haha
Yep download is up. And is super slow. Chrome tells me 8 hours left lol. A 3.6GB torrent usually takes me about an hour to download
Kind of off topic, but I'm just curious to know if anyone's tried out the Windows 8 developer preview. I'm trying it right now, and it's honestly not that bad. Some things still need work, but it's definitely something I could get use to.
I was curious about it too, got a link?
also can i dual boot it with win 7?
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also can i dual boot it with win 7?
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Yes, and if you really want to get a feel for it lifehacker has an article showing how to share files between the Windows 7 and 8 partitions.
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I was curious about it too, got a link?
also can i dual boot it with win 7?
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I havn't tried it yet, trying to get it to work with vmware.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516
I thew it on my 4 year old cheap laptop and after figuring out how to navigate the start menu I really like how fast it is. Only problem is I can't seem to be able to install .net framework, hence phonemypc won't work (I wanted to test drive metro ui on my epic since its touchscreen optimized) I'm gonna keep it on my laptop until the beta expires but I'm sad to say that I want a windows 8 tablet waaaaay more than even an ice cream tablet.
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Yeah I'm using it on a partition on my brand-new laptop. I really like it actually!
Metro UI is a bit to get used to, but I love using the touchpad multi-touch controls to navigate from panel-mode to the standard desktop, bootup is much faster, and I can share files fine between my regular Win7 partition and the Windows 8 partition.
@xopher.hunter, I had an issue with .NET 3.5, but it installed fine after a restart. YMMV...
I bought a Touchpad during the fire sale, and have yet to receive it from HP Small Business (have to wait for the last production run), but I wanna put Win8 on it when the ARM build gets out.
Im waiting for a windows 8 tablet to come out
I do NOT like the UI for desktops :/
WIndows 7 for my PC, windows 8 for tablet.
fk yeah.
Microsoft killed all of my interest in an android tablet when they revealed the metro ui windows 8. PERFECT TABLET OS (atleast based on what ive seen, it has all the right things.)
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actually...i just remembered in a previous video they didnt have metro ui on and it looked like windows 7...so i might just give it a shot if i can take the skin off..
Also, what's phonemypc? Remote desktop thing for the epic im guessing?
Lol you mean android prpo lol you dont get win took the source code rewrote it pstent it and you would fund that lol
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Lol you mean android prpo lol you dont get win took the source code rewrote it pstent it and you would fund that lol
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wut
10char
A_Flying_Fox said:
Also, what's phonemypc? Remote desktop thing for the epic im guessing?
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Its this 10 dollar app in the market, yes it is a remote desktop client but very well done and very simple to set up. Its a freaking life saver if you forget something on your computer.
I still haven't been able to install .net 3.5.1, I even dl'd the standalone but it still wanted to use microsoft update to install, and I rebooted it too. Oh well this is why I put this on my old ass laptop. Runs like a champ though only on 1.86ghz and 1.5gb of ram it seems ready for tablets alredy.
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I personally am hating the metro ui...its to hard to navigate. It's too big of a step. To me, its clunky. People were afraid of vista because of the glossy difference from xp, this is like 100x worse.
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I personally am hating the metro ui...its to hard to navigate. It's too big of a step. To me, its clunky. People were afraid of vista because of the glossy difference from xp, this is like 100x worse.
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I find it too bland. (still wonder if I can change the green background to another color...)
Idk, I agree it's too tablet-like, but I like how everything is together.
Definitely doesn't make sense for a computer though.
I feel like we're going backwards a bit since we're basing computer UI off of mobile UIs which are meant to be more compact.
Even in OS X Lion, they had the "Launchpad" feature where it looked exactly like you were on an iPad.
Why do companies think people like this?
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I find it too bland. (still wonder if I can change the green background to another color...)
Idk, I agree it's too tablet-like, but I like how everything is together.
Definitely doesn't make sense for a computer though.
I feel like we're going backwards a bit since we're basing computer UI off of mobile UIs which are meant to be more compact.
Even in OS X Lion, they had the "Launchpad" feature where it looked exactly like you were on an iPad.
Why do companies think people like this?
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Idk. Maybe because they think it looks better than just a plain list, but now they're more interested in eye candy than functionality. Why can't we have both.
On the other topic, I would like to try windows 8, but it's not really useful for me since I have a 1024x600 netbook, so Metro Apps don't work. I've tried the hack that makes resolution higher on Windows 7, but it looks horrible with that.
my question is the lifehacker site says you need to burn a dvd or use a thumbdrive, can I also use a SD card? (don't want to waste a DVD and have no RWs at the moment)
Also will doing this erase everything on Win 7? I dual booted Ubuntu once and it didn't but LifeHacker says something about formmating the drive
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my question is the lifehacker site says you need to burn a dvd or use a thumbdrive, can I also use a SD card? (don't want to waste a DVD and have no RWs at the moment)
Also will doing this erase everything on Win 7? I dual booted Ubuntu once and it didn't but LifeHacker says something about formmating the drive
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Will not erase everything as long as you boot to dvd or usb (I don't think SD cards are bootable). You don't need to format, you need to partition (which is like grouping your hard drive, with one group for windows 7 and one for windows 8)
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Will not erase everything as long as you boot to dvd or usb (I don't think SD cards are bootable). You don't need to format, you need to partition (which is like grouping your hard drive, with one group for windows 7 and one for windows 8)
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Thanks. lucky me I found a dvd-rw
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I find it too bland. (still wonder if I can change the green background to another color...)
Idk, I agree it's too tablet-like, but I like how everything is together.
Definitely doesn't make sense for a computer though.
I feel like we're going backwards a bit since we're basing computer UI off of mobile UIs which are meant to be more compact.
Even in OS X Lion, they had the "Launchpad" feature where it looked exactly like you were on an iPad.
Why do companies think people like this?
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But you never actually have to use Launchpad, and its quite nice to find an app quickly without spotlight.
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WOW MICROSOFT WOW. so apparently the windows 8 on arm devices was largely overrated, ONLY METRO APPS WILL RUN ON ARM DEVICES.
guess im still waiting for an x86 tablet to get one
http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/windows-8-arm-chips-it-was-too-good-be-true-173265
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WOW MICROSOFT WOW. so apparently the windows 8 on arm devices was largely overrated, ONLY METRO APPS WILL RUN ON ARM DEVICES.
guess im still waiting for an x86 tablet to get one
http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/windows-8-arm-chips-it-was-too-good-be-true-173265
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I dont think thats true. I dont think they can run Windows 7 apps, but I think they can run any app built for 8 or just windows for arm in general.
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But you never actually have to use Launchpad, and its quite nice to find an app quickly without spotlight.
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True, but I have my trackpad customized with a bunch of additional gestures, so if I just tap the top left corner of my trackpad, it shows spotlight.