HTC HERO - always possible to unlock? - P3600 General

Hey guys,
I am planning on buying a htc hero on ebay and putting a virgin liberty sim in (Virgin £18+ Unlimited data). However, it is much cheaper to get a htc hero that is locked to orange of t mobile.
I have seen a few threads around saying it is do-able, and some people seem to have problems. Basically i am asking if it is always possible to unlock these phones since i don't want to end up with a very expensive paperweight?
On my last phone (htc tinitiy) it was possible to unlock it via flashing, is this possible?
Thanks!

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Need Help from some of the pros here!!!!

I have been reading this forum for the last few days. And checking out what your guys are doing here. (I like it!) Now I have some question for some of the experts that will help me make the choice of selecting my new phone.
I have T-mobile USA an currently have a razr. Now I have been thinking of getting a ppc after reading some reviews and things like that I see the kiaser might be the best ppc availale.(This is what I get from reviews don't shoot me) at this time. But I'm not looking to spend that kind of money on a phone. Even though it is sim unlocked not cid unlocked according to reading here what the difference is.
1. Should I go with a T-mobile Wing or go for the HTC Herald? And what is the difference really between the two phones. One is branded the other is not. Or should I try for the next power house in line that would be an HTC Hermes (TYTN).
2 Now if I do that and choose one of the two unbranded phones. It's a possible chance that I will get one that doesn't have english Os (maybe buyng from ebay). And I would like to use the best Rom for that phone from here of course. I'm just thinking i don't want to brick the phone right away. So are there easy methods to cid unlocks on any of these 3 phones? I just listed so I won't have problems trying to flash to a new Rom. With branded or unbranded phone and english or non english Os? Really need help with this.
1. The herald is inevitably more expensive than the wing. if you like tmobile, i'd go with the wing. This is because its unlocked, no? Either way, eh. Anything unlocked will be more expensive.
2. Again, I wouldn't choose the unbranded unless you dont intend to use it with tmobile. Either way, you can call them and ask them to unlock it for you after a set amount of time. This sim-unlocks the phone. Now, for cid-unlocking, we have three choices- aserg's method, USPL, and Hard-SPL.
Aserg's was popular back in the heyday of Herald flashing. Nobody really uses it anymore
USPL writes a temporary SPL to the phone that allows it to be flashed.
Hard-CID replaces the phones SPL with a permanent one that can't be overwritten (i think).
IN conclusion, if you really want an unlocked phone, get a wing, wait 60 days, ask them for the unlock code, and unlock away. To flash a new rom, use USPL or Hard-CID. In the end, you end up with an unlocked phone with CID bypass capabilities.
If you had searched, you would have known that.
Ok let me be more specific here. I do appreciate the reply!
Now here is what I'm asking is the the unbranded Herald better than the T-mobile wing beside looks? (the wing is ugly looking compared to the herald) I will be using the phone on T-mobile service. I understand the price difference in the phone being locked or unlocked. And if so of going unbranded should I choose between Herald or Hermes? The unbranded phones would be sim unlocked not cid unlocked. As I understand and maybe have a different language firmware or Os other than english which I can't understand not bi-lingual. And the wing would be locked both ways but be in english already. If I was to cid unlock what is the most safest way to do so?
If your staying on Tmobile, get a wing. Theres no damn good reason not too. The difference between the two????? Color and I believe keyboard layout -- hence the idea of "rebranding." Same thing.
Get a Wing. Its prettier and unlocking it is a breeze.
People just love the deep, dark, almost pearlescent blue of my phone , as do I!
So there is no difference in the Herald or Wing. So what you are saying is leave the unbranded phones alone. Is the Hermes still a good phone to use unbranded on T-mobile service or just plain ol get the wing and call it a day and stop boggling my brain? I do appreciate the help guys Thanks.
try to find it here:
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and choose what you nee.....
IMO, I think that a PDA without a physical keyboard is almost pointless.
I know the basics of the phones. I was just asking for some hands on experience opinions. Best ppc hands down bang for the buck.
go for htc p4350..
my choice any day
Is there any particular reason you are saying go with the P4350? According to others as stated earlier they said go for the wing.
I'm partial to the Wing, but the Herald is just as good. I've seen the Wing selling on ebay for between 250.00 - 300.00 unlocked.
It's not about being lock or unlocked because what I plan on doing soon as I get the phone. I will flash it with a Rom from this site. So I'm looking to make sure I'm getting the best for the time being. Until I get an itch again for the upgrade bug. So here are my choices T-mobile wing, HTC Herald or HTC Hermes. And according to those here is that I would guess that the Wing being the most easiest to flash I assume???? But I'm looking for the best phone that I will be happy with a cool Rom from here with all the tweaks added.
This is to itje. Do you feel there are any huge differences between the p4350 and the wing? If you had any experience with both phone. Or are you saying this because you have a p4350?
Herald V/S Wing
Ok, let's make it very clear Herald and wing are the same exact thing, except one is unlocked and HTC branded while the other is made specifically for America and t-mobile branded. Now lets countdown the major differences good and bad.
The Wing-it's cheaper since it's made for american customers. It comes with Wm6 built in. Less expensive if bought locket with t-mobile. But it shoud'nt be a problem for you since you already have t-mobile.
Herald-Not made for american customers, so you have to buy it unlocked hence more expensive. COme with wm5 you have to manually upgrade to wm6. You get to register with HTC and reciev all the updates.
Bad stuff about having branded T-Mobile: it comes with Myfaves, this app takes up a ton of storage and program meory, hate htis s**t.
So these were the differences in Herald and the wing.
but if you do chose to go unlocked then the question is Tytn V/S Herald V/S Tytn II right. As you know the tilt or tytn ii is the best and the most powerfull phone on the market, but as you mentioned before it's expensive, really really expensive. But depends on how much you want to spend ATT sells it locked for $550, plus unlocking charge. If you want to specifically buy tytn 2 then it's like 600 to 700 dollars.
Now Herald v/s Hermes. Herald is slimmer and lighter than Hermes. Arguably better looking too. But the Hermes has a 400mhz procceser while herald only has 200 mhz. Hermes also has a second camera for video call(the American version dosen't have it) the herald dosen't. And finally Hermes also has 3g, the herald dosen't. But you won't be able to use 3G since T_Mobile USA, dosen't support it. I hope this answers all your questions. Tell me if it dosent.

Hello Tattoo community! Need urgent advice to potential buyer :)

Hello,
Probably will buy this device tomorrow, used, dont sure ifs its unbranded or Vodafone (Portugal) branded.
I have a question ...
- If it's unbranded (and so on unlocked), there's anything I need to know (something in the firmware), so I can install "anything" I want?
- If its branded and sim locked... it's easy to unbrand and unlock? Should I take a look of something on the firmware?
Really appreciate your help.
Thanks,
Tiago
There is no good way yet to unlock the htc tattoo locked to orange uk except from using the ismart sim 2008. Besides the simlock problem, you have a smaller screen than other android devices. So some apps or games might not work properly.. but most of them do. Also you have limited access to the market, that is, you can access products that have been specified htc tattoo compliant only unless you root the device and install the cracked market app. Besides that everything is ok.
yash08 said:
There is no good way yet to unlock the htc tattoo locked to orange uk except from using the ismart sim 2008. Besides the simlock problem, you have a smaller screen than other android devices. So some apps or games might not work properly.. but most of them do. Also you have limited access to the market, that is, you can access products that have been specified htc tattoo compliant only unless you root the device and install the cracked market app. Besides that everything is ok.
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I never said it's tattoo orange uk... I said maybe its vodafone portugal tattoo...
smaller screen? what's the normal screen for tattoo ?
he ment its small screen, compared to other HTC phones, most phones got 3+ inches screen, tattoo is 2.8.
about unlocking - its ur rights to try put ur sim card in the phone before u buy it. Myn was unlocked, thought they sayd its locked to they network. At same time - they use same phones for selling as locked to they network with a contract, as same phones for selling it for full price...
Stiflerlv said:
he ment its small screen, compared to other HTC phones, most phones got 3+ inches screen, tattoo is 2.8.
about unlocking - its ur rights to try put ur sim card in the phone before u buy it. Myn was unlocked, thought they sayd its locked to they network. At same time - they use same phones for selling as locked to they network with a contract, as same phones for selling it for full price...
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I dont want to count with simcard... always had problems with it.
So its not easily possible to unlock and unbrand a tattoo ?
Dude, if I had the chance I would have bought a device which is easily upgradeable to another Android OS or other ROMS (maybe with different OS').
But returning to your issue:
Unbranding shouldn't be a problem (I removed Vodafone Germany branding), but with unlocking there are problems with certain providers. Just put your SIM in first and see if it boots, otherwise I would take another device if the tattoo should be locked.
TheSSJ said:
Dude, if I had the chance I would have bought a device which is easily upgradeable to another Android OS or other ROMS (maybe with different OS').
But returning to your issue:
Unbranding shouldn't be a problem (I removed Vodafone Germany branding), but with unlocking there are problems with certain providers. Just put your SIM in first and see if it boots, otherwise I would take another device if the tattoo should be locked.
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But if I put my TMN sim card on Vodafone Tattoo, it's suppose to work ?
Not understood what you explained, sorry.
Some carriers sell phones that are locked to them, others sell unlocked phones.
Here in the UK for instance, vodafone phones are not locked and an HTC Tattoo bought from them can be used with any SIM. Ones sold by Orange are locked to them and can only be used with an Orange SIM.
I do not know if Vodafone in Portugal lock their phones or not, the simple way of checking is by trying your non vodafone SIM and seeing if it works.
Unlocking the Tattoo can be done but costs $15 or so I believe (although with the Desire they then charge you another $20 - a very dodgy practice), far better to buy one that's not locked in the first place unless you want to use it on the carrier it's locked to.
You posted a couple of days ago - have you already bought the phone? Was it unlocked? Or have you not bought it yet?
Confucious said:
Some carriers sell phones that are locked to them, others sell unlocked phones.
Here in the UK for instance, vodafone phones are not locked and an HTC Tattoo bought from them can be used with any SIM. Ones sold by Orange are locked to them and can only be used with an Orange SIM.
I do not know if Vodafone in Portugal lock their phones or not, the simple way of checking is by trying your non vodafone SIM and seeing if it works.
Unlocking the Tattoo can be done but costs $15 or so I believe (although with the Desire they then charge you another $20 - a very dodgy practice), far better to buy one that's not locked in the first place unless you want to use it on the carrier it's locked to.
You posted a couple of days ago - have you already bought the phone? Was it unlocked? Or have you not bought it yet?
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Now I understood.
Here in Portugal, ALL phones are SIM Locked. Unlock goes from 50$ to 150$.
That's why I asked if it's easy to do it by us.
HTCCode.com say on the front page that it costs $15 but people in the Desire forum are saying they are being told that their device costs more - but only after they've paid the $15.

[Q] HTC Wildfire branding question

Hi, im new to these forums but after much searching i have been unable to answer my question.
I would like to purchase a Wildfire for my wife prefered in white. The only reasonably priced one is from Tesco mobile on pay as you go for £179.00
My wife is currently on Orange and changing providers is not an option.
I have read how it may be possible to unlock the phone using codes, but what about the braning on the phone will i be able to remove this? Also if i have to install a factory configured ROM surely this will also remove the simlock too?
I have also read that the phones from Tesco are not always sim locked and wondered if anyone had any experience of this?
The phone is also avaliable from vodaphone for £126 but i know 100% this is sim locked and branded, so the Tesco phone could work out better if no unlock or debranding is required.
Any help is much appreciated!
Thanks again!
It's possible to unlock the phone to any carrier, it'll cost about 15 pounds. To unbrand it you'll have to install the ruu from htc, there are links somewhere in the forum.
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I have one question thou, I see we can unlock SIM lock with gfree and some ADB / CLI kung fu.. im confortable with that but... The first time I used my HTC Dream of old days... I had to activate the phone first before replacing bootloader or rooting, to get past the activation screen...
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Yep, did it today without a Tmo sim.

[Q] htc hero custom rom and unlock help?

hi all, ive been lurking this site for ages, and thought this would be a good place to start my first thread.
basically, i bought a second hand htc hero that is locked to 3 UK. its running android 2.1update1. basically, i would like it unlocked and a bonus would be to put another rom on there. i dont see why i should pay £20 odd to get it unlocked if i can do it free.
any advice/tutorials on how to do it? bearing in mind its 3 UK? i didnt know if different unlocks work on different networks on this phone. im a noob with android, i have this and my hd7 (which i love, just wish it werent so restricted lol)
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I've recently installed a custom rom on mine and this guide was very helpful for me.
I got my htc hero unlocked from ebay for £5 just sent the seller my imei code and he gave me a unlock code through email .
sacpe25 said:
I got my htc hero unlocked from ebay for £5 just sent the seller my imei code and he gave me a unlock code through email .
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unlocked???through imei?????
http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/
I used the above site for my HTC HD7 and they were pretty guick. although havent used ofr my hero they charge arounf £15 I think.
I was wondering why we cant unlock it for FREE though, phones like SAmsug Galaxy S2 can be unlocked for free. thanks to XDA
Hope someone can do the same for HERO

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