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Have finally decided to go back to using my Storm 2, with all the great features the HD2 has, I just cannot get the hang of the damn keyboard..tried all third party ones, none were accurate for speedy one handed typing. The registry fixes seemed to work sometimes and not other times - It was driving me insane.
Typing something like..."ok mate, see you in a minute.." turned into a game of Buckaroo, or minesweep!
I will miss the great screen and super web browsing - not to mention great customisability features of the device
...but to be honest, come to think of it, thats all I will miss.
Great forum here
Really I can't understand the problem is in the device or person?
I'm replying this from my device only, typed one handed without issues and without any patch installed. It just need some time to get use to the new device.
I actually find it way easier to type in my HD2 comparing to my iPhone with t9 support.
There is some difficulty with high sensitivity, but its compensated with the t9 error correction.
Anyways, best of luck with your another device.
One more of those threads...
@Mods
Please, can we either make ONE thread for posts like these or ban them completely? They really hurt the quality of the forum.
(after all, they don't help anyone at all)
maati said:
One more of those threads...
@Mods
Please, can we either make ONE thread for posts like these or ban them completely? They really hurt the quality of the forum.
(after all, they don't help anyone at all)
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Hey, they are recruiting moderators, go figure out... If you don't like the thread report it...
Moderators are monitoring anyway, they arent waiting for you to guide them.
PM me with how much your selling it for.
skr_xd said:
Really I can't understand the problem is in the device or person?
I'm replying this from my device only, typed one handed without issues and without any patch installed. It just need some time to get use to the new device.
I actually find it way easier to type in my HD2 comparing to my iPhone with t9 support.
There is some difficulty with high sensitivity, but its compensated with the t9 error correction.
Anyways, best of luck with your another device.
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Stumbling along using T9 is hardly a good test of whether a keyboard is up to the task now is it? It's cheating.
The fact remains that typing on the HD2 keyboard - and I mean properly typing with no kids' correction services* - is pretty damned hard work. I have to correct almost every word and it is extremely tedious. The keyboard seems to have regular funny turns too where it becomes super-sensitive and where some of the keys, mainly backspace, adopt a mind of their own. Anyone who defends this keyboard, let alone says it's good, is surely having a laugh. I can manage it better than most, a few friends have had a go and it put them off the handset instantly. They had at first loved the screen but the keyboard soon had them turning their noses up.
*T9 and the like were invented to make multi-tap keypads more useable for the masses. I never used it then so with a full QWERTY at my disposal I'm certainly not interested. I'm a very fast typist and can bang-out whole words faster than people can using T9. I should not have to go hunting for new keyboards or using T9 workarounds on a premium device. It's just not on and I fully appreciate why the OP has ditched his handset.
The fact remains that typing on the HD2 keyboard - and I mean properly typing with no kids' correction services* - is pretty damned hard work
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A fact? Just like it's fact that ALL HD2's have hardware faults?
What you think is a fact is in fact not a fact at all but nonsense. It's one of the best software keyboards ever. Really better than the iPhone's that, if you belive the common opinion, was previously the best (I had an iPhone, I know the HD2 has a better keyboard).
Now don't tell me about threads where people complain bout the keyboard. I told you before why that would be stupid (though I'm sure you didn't get it...):
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You'd also realize that this is a forum where people come when they try to get solutions - people who don't have problems usually don't tell everyone about it. Your conclusion that just because you have two faulty devices all must be faulty is total nonsense - almost all devices are perfectly fine and even more important, are of much higher quality than most other phones (*cough* iPhone *cough*)
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A fact? Just like it's fact that ALL HD2's have hardware faults?
What you think is a fact is in fact not a fact at all but nonsense. It's one of the best software keyboards ever.
Now don't tell me about threads where people complain bout the keyboard. I told you before why that would be stupid (though I'm sure you didn't get it...).
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Along comes one of those people who is 'surely having a laugh'.
I really cannot imagine a worse keyboard. I'm sorry but whatever you're comparing it to is not worthy of any accolades if the HD2 keyboard beats it into submission. You cannot seriously tell me that inputting text on this device is anything but a tedious and frustrating experience.
Again, you show that you're unable to read.
As I said (and you couldn't read) I compared to the iPhone I had (and the Touch HD). The HD2 has a much better keyboard.
If it's true that the iPhone had the best keyboard (that's what people say), then now the HD2 has the best one.
You draw the conclusion that just because YOU are not able to type on it, it's bad? You're much more of a stupid troll than I thought.
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Again, you show that you're unable to read.
As I said (and you couldn't read) I compared to the iPhone I had (and the Touch HD). The HD2 has a much better keyboard.
If it's true that the iPhone had the best keyboard (that's what people say), then now the HD2 has the best one.
You draw the conclusion that just because YOU are not able to type on it, it's bad? You're much more of a stupid troll than I thought.
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LOL. I really must stress that I'm only humouring you because I have absolutely nothing better to do apart from drink beer and argue with you. I'm holed-up in a hotel room in a strange city and it's kinda fun....to a point.
Nobody I know likes the HD2 keyboard save a handful of people on this forum. It's absolutely terrible. HTC need to sort a hotfix immediately because loads of people will return their handsets for this and this alone.
Yeah sure... nobody likes the keyboard and loads of people return their devices
Actually only stupid people return their devices because of small, easily fixable software flaws... and if they're not only stupid but also trolls and/or psychologically disturbed, they open threads to tell everyone that they've returned their devices.
I really must stress that I'm only humouring you because I have absolutely nothing better to do apart from drink beer and argue with you.
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How come I don't believe that?
You've shown before that you need the whining and you seem to want people to read it.... otherwise I couldn't explain why you hijack every thread and open whining threads yourself.
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Along comes one of those people who is 'surely having a laugh'.
I really cannot imagine a worse keyboard. I'm sorry but whatever you're comparing it to is not worthy of any accolades if the HD2 keyboard beats it into submission. You cannot seriously tell me that inputting text on this device is anything but a tedious and frustrating experience.
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sunking101:
I have just reviewed your entire history of posts on this forum; I am surprised that you had nothing ever to say except to bash & complain about the HD2, enflame others with your sordid commentary, and trying ever so ardently to persuade others that this is the worse phone in history, despite that we all know the opposite!
I believe that you are deliberately trying your very hardest to ruin our experience with the HD2, actively creating and perpetuating mirages of exaggerated hardware faults, causing unrest among the forum members, and continuously complaining about everything in the HD2. This is not a casual accusation, this is the result of a comprehensive review of what goes back to your first post.
Unless you are being paid for this, just sell your phone and buy an iPhone, or, roll over and die! See who cares about your mobile phone satisfaction
I am surprised that you had nothing ever to say except to bash & complain about the HD2,
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I'm not surprised about that. Just read only one of his posts and you know what kind of person he is.
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Yeah sure... nobody likes the keyboard and loads of people return their devices
Actually only stupid people return their devices because of small, easily fixable software flaws... and if they're not only stupid but also trolls and/or psychologically disturbed, they open threads to tell everyone that they've returned their devices.
How come I don't believe that?
You've shown before that you need the whining and you seem to want people to read it.... otherwise I couldn't explain why you hijack every thread and open whining threads yourself.
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I think I know "why"; read my thread on the Leo page:
link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598035
This guy is a dog
maati:
If you notice, this guy as well as others who are doing the exact same thing (attitude, behavior, etc) have all joined the form in November - as soon as they HD2 came out, and have posted SO many times they are Senior Members already!
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maati:
If you notice, this guy as well as others who are doing the exact same thing (attitude, behavior, etc) have all joined the form in November - as soon as they HD2 came out, and have posted SO many times they are Senior Members already!
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Doh! Of course I've posted since the HD2 came out because I only came here due to the numerous problems with the device!!!! I came here to try and get fixes. There have been a few helpful tweaks for this, that and the other but the SMS problems and call quality problems (volume and distortion) remain!
Actually only stupid people return their devices because of small, easily fixable software flaws... and if they're not only stupid but also trolls and/or psychologically disturbed, they open threads to tell everyone that they've returned their devices.
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Just in case I am falling into that category, I am in fact keeping it, but waiting for a fix, a miracle, or some prozac - before I use it again
@sunking
Sure, you tried to get fixes
You wanted people to read your complaints and spread FUD, that's all.
I'm on my second one, the first went back. Went back to my iphone. Keyboard on iphone is way more accurate. Hd2 need a major overhaul typing is very hard.
Typing on my touch hd was way better and t9 sucks. I'm giving this thing a couple more days but its not looking good.
Just so you all know in the last two years ive had and loved an x7500, a touch, a touch hd, then iphone (which i dislike very much) and now the hd2. This according to the specs was THE!!! phone i was waiting for. Software wise its just not close to the hardware spec. It needs a lot of work. especially for the price. We will see what the next few days bring.
yeah for the love of god I wish this guy would leave, its annoying to log on.and find every otherpost a bash on the HD2 by this guy... can't wait until he gets bored and moseys on!
Right after flashing with a new baked rom from here i have sorted out many of the software "glitches" the oem rom had and the phones performance is quite good.
im still pretty annoyed at htc that i have to rely on the community to fix their poorly coded software
but at the end of the day its device is one thing .... a phone!!!!! ....and at that, yet again it fails !! the signal reception is crap ... and when it does work the call quality is shocking for such a state of the art handset.
my sisters 2 year old samsung piece of junk gets full signal on the same network, where mine struggles with 1 bar...
rant over .....
have you tried diffrent radio?
i have 2.04.50.22_2 which i think is the newest for my country (uk) the new raido did improve it slightly but it still sucks !
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Right after flashing with a new baked rom from here i have sorted out many of the software "glitches" the oem rom had and the phones performance is quite good.
im still pretty annoyed at htc that i have to rely on the community to fix their poorly coded software
but at the end of the day its device is one thing .... a phone!!!!! ....and at that, yet again it fails !! the signal reception is crap ... and when it does work the call quality is shocking for such a state of the art handset.
my sisters 2 year old samsung piece of junk gets full signal on the same network, where mine struggles with 1 bar...
rant over .....
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You forgot to mention all the SMS issues everyones having
haha dont even get me started, it takes ages to send a bloody sms, i type it out then have to go back and correct nearly every word thats been input incorrectly ! lol
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You forgot to mention all the SMS issues everyones having
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would it sound over smug to say I've yet to see the sms problem?
(insert smug grin smiley here)
hehe
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haha dont even get me started, it takes ages to send a bloody sms, i type it out then have to go back and correct nearly every word thats been input incorrectly ! lol
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sooo.... I don't get it. why don't You sell it then and get something else?? it is just a thing, if it's ruining Your life - get rid of it.
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would it sound over smug to say I've yet to see the sms problem?
(insert smug grin smiley here)
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Nope. I've never had any problems with SMS either and, as far as I'm concerned, the reception on this phone is 100% fine.
Thread after thread on this forum seems to be taken up with whiners who assume that every little quibble that they have is a problem for everyone. For the record, not only am I perfectly happy with my HD2 but I think HTC did a brilliant job with the hardware AND the software.
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I am tired of HTC bashing ... Stop it, please.
If you don't like the phone, sell it. I am very happy with mine. Never had sms problem and reception is just excellent. So the problem is not the phone it self.
No SMS problems with mine either, no bad reception, but several other "glitches".
But then again, im throwing .cabs at this phone in an extreme pace
I really do like the phone and would not want to sell it for one minute. However I do not make many calls.
My reception is shocking as well. In comparison to other phones the reception is extremely poor at best.
I said in a thread a while ago that this phone is fundamentally flawed. I say this because of the positioning of the aerial at the bottom of the phone - and HTC's recommendation not to hold it at the bottom. How the hell else do you hold a phone? And why put the aerial there in the first place?
I really don't think that the phone will get any better with ROM updates.
What I do not like about this phone is the keyboard/touchscreen. I'm slowly getting to grips with it but it's a slow process and quite frustrating. It runs very smooth no crashing or hangups thankfully. I had the SMS bug but turning it off and on cured that..for now. I've sent three texts in landscape mode typing by accident, urgh!
Signal wise, I get an average of 3/full bars in my bedroom. Living on the border between Northern and Republic of Ireland I barely got 2 with previous phones (LG Secret/Xperia X1) using o2. This is stock ROM (1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE) and stock radio (2.04.50.22_2). I'm very impressed with signal alone, but I try not to cover up the bottom.
Well I have never had to modify the way I hold the phone and, as I said before, I don't have any reception problems. If the phone were "fundamentally flawed" as you suggest then the problem you report would be experienced universally.
If people have issues with their phone then I don't have a problem with them discussing them to work together to find a solution. However, that's not what is happening in this forum. Instead people are just whining, complaining and making ridiculous claims and assumptions. The phone isn't fundamentally flawed, it works perfectly for the silent majority who don't have any problems. I understand if people get frustrated by annoying problems but you'd be far better off working constructively to find solutions rather than talking crap.
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Well I have never had to modify the way I hold the phone and, as I said before, I don't have any reception problems. If the phone were "fundamentally flawed" as you suggest then the problem you report would be experienced universally.
If people have issues with their phone then I don't have a problem with them discussing them to work together to find a solution. However, that's not what is happening in this forum. Instead people are just whining, complaining and making ridiculous claims and assumptions. The phone isn't fundamentally flawed, it works perfectly for the silent majority who don't have any problems. I understand if people get frustrated by annoying problems but you'd be far better off working constructively to find solutions rather than talking crap.
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A solution to what exactly? the fact that the phone has an aerial in a silly place. Best reach for my multitools in order to reach a solution that is constructive then.
bronx said:
sooo.... I don't get it. why don't You sell it then and get something else?? it is just a thing, if it's ruining Your life - get rid of it.
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its hardly ruining my life you drama queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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its hardly ruining my life you dram queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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Totally agreed. The other small issue that people are forgetting is that if you sell the HD2 then you are fairly certain to lose money.
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its hardly ruining my life you dram queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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no problems with sms or reception on mine... try jailbreaking an iphone every now and then and talk again about crap..
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A solution to what exactly? the fact that the phone has an aerial in a silly place. Best reach for my multitools in order to reach a solution that is constructive then.
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As I said, there's nothing wrong with the position of the aerial. However, feel free to go ahead and prove me right.
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its hardly ruining my life you dram queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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No, all it tells me is that most people that come here to complain are having problems. Nothing more and nothing less.
Has it occurred to you that you might be the problem rather than HTC or the phone? In between all the *****ing and moaning you haven't bothered to tell us anything about what you've done to the phone. How do we know that you haven't installed an application that's responsible for the problems you're experiencing? How do we know that you haven't changed a setting or cocked up a registry setting? If you want help then stop this childish ranting, otherwise don't bother posting.
onisuk said:
Right after flashing with a new baked rom from here i have sorted out many of the software "glitches" the oem rom had and the phones performance is quite good.
im still pretty annoyed at htc that i have to rely on the community to fix their poorly coded software
but at the end of the day its device is one thing .... a phone!!!!! ....and at that, yet again it fails !! the signal reception is crap ... and when it does work the call quality is shocking for such a state of the art handset.
my sisters 2 year old samsung piece of junk gets full signal on the same network, where mine struggles with 1 bar...
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try going to the official HTC web site, download all the software updates. As for the reception, change the bandwidth in order to get full 3g network coverage but be warned, it will drain your batter even more!
For the last 6 weeks I've had nothing but headaches between two T-Mobile HD2's. I bought on release date, 3 days later I was better off tossing it in the freezer because all it would do is freeze. It also lagged, was buggy and a glitch fest. Apps didnt work, screen didn't work, Sense UI wouldn't load ugh, I can go on. I got another HD2, within the first 7 hours it froze on me too lol. It also had the same issues as the first.
I just want to thank everybody here in the forums for helping solve my phone issue, as I've research and tried everything but they did not help. Also thanks to HTC and T-mobile.com for putting up with my madness lol, although T-Mobile allowed me to get my OG plan back (and keep my HD2), I can now leave T-Mobile (im under no contract) to get something else (leaning towards the Evo 4G over the Nexus One).
P.S. I hope T-Mobile gets there act together and releases a patch ASAP, it sucks that such a incredible piece of hardware is having a lot of problematic issues.
that's weird,I assume you were on stock rom which is why u got the issues...custom roms eliminate those issues u have on stock rom.
i dont think it's so much the stock ROM, mine's been wonderful with the stock ROM. it's more that he was unlucky enough to be one of the first bozos who got the phone with version 2.10. for me, rom version 2.11 has been nothing but bliss, so much that after trying several custom roms i went back to my stock 2.11 because, compared to it, all custom roms suck (winmo devs aren't as good as android devs).
there's a thread with stock roms and 2.11 is usable even without hspl (i kept hspl out of personal preference and I'll try to make my own build). good luck to you anyway. i suggest you get a nexus one and flash desire rom (or heck, get a desire)
If it is freezing, the first setting I would check is
Start > Settings > Menu > All Settings > Today > Items
The setting "Today timeout", at the bottom left hand corner,
should not be selected/enabled.
why shouldnt the today timeout be selected,just out of curiosity?
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why shouldnt the today timeout be selected,just out of curiosity?
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i just unchecked it so i'll wait and see if anything improves (i have minor freezing/lag with calls and sms sometimes)...but im also curious what this fixes
I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.
My phone has frozen at least once every day it seems like. But I think i solved the battery issue. I bought a second battery!! Haha, I am so S M R T! At any rate, I love this phone for the big screen and fast internet. I just wish I had a way to get mp4's to watch. Or that more books on barnes and noble were free.
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I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.
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LOL, Less talking, more listening kid.
It's obvious you have no idea what your talking about and lacking the intelligence to do so. I have plenty of videos posted here showing how horrible my two devices are (do a search). It's HTC Sense UI that is the problem, not WM6.5. I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way. So keep talking ****, that's why your teeth are brown.
Dude is soo anal because I gave up on my HD2, lol. If you like yours that fine but don't cry me a river because I didn't like mine lmao!
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I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way.
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Why does "...and Windows 7 was my idea!" come to mind?
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I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way.
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Are you serious! You think it's because of you that an update is on it's way?! If you do, you are a severe narcissist. The fact that you think that really makes anything else you claim questionable.
Woot, 8 posts to 1,000.
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Are you serious! You think it's because of you that an update is on it's way?! If you do, you are a severe narcissist. The fact that you think that really makes anything else you claim questionable.
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Agreed.Also i thought you were an Android fan boy, didn't you have a G1?
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I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.
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you sir are an idiot.... did you look at his sdcard, you were there while he was using the phone to say it that kind of ****? you ve had good luck with you r device and I congratulate you but not everybody phone has been flawless. so basicly.........STFU.
if you go for android you will know the value of your hd2
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LOL, Less talking, more listening kid.
It's obvious you have no idea what your talking about and lacking the intelligence to do so. I have plenty of videos posted here showing how horrible my two devices are (do a search). It's HTC Sense UI that is the problem, not WM6.5. I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way. So keep talking ****, that's why your teeth are brown.
Dude is soo anal because I gave up on my HD2, lol. If you like yours that fine but don't cry me a river because I didn't like mine lmao!
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I was with you till you said the bolded
how solipsistic can you be to assume that based on your pathetic user experience that tmobile and htc would generate an entire updated rom to suit just your needs??? Give me a break dude...
this is xdas not fan pandering to overly zealous delusional users that are so far up steve jobs craw they can see his prostate...I mean seriously what the frick???
And I admit for 80% of errors it is brought on by the user and not the device itself. The hd2 has its flaws. All phones do...but for most users they are iphone/android converts expecting the same experience without doing any research on htc and windows mobile. And to those users, yes I say they do deserve any error they get. Why? You didn't take time to learn about your device. This isn't something as simple as a flashlight where you press the on button and something magically happens. Its a pocket pc and that means a lot...
Closing this thread as it is turning into a bashing session. Lets keep it civil.
Its been 2 months here very shortly and we have no GPS fix or any word on froyo. FROYO has been out since may, the n1 has it, evolution has it, incredible, d2, dx soon, g2 etc. But no Samsung galaxy or even rumor on when we should get it.
The GPS fix was promissed this month, and well its halfway over I just don't see within the next two weeks a GPS fix being rolled out. Of course also no word on froyoz and not only that but CM6.1 may or may not even support our sgs ..
Sooooo, if there is no froyo or atleast a GPS fix by Oct 8th (rumored g2 release date) I'm selling this damn thing on Craigslist and getting a g2...
I love the vibrant way more than the g2 but I'm sure its gps will work and its coming with stock 2.2.
Wtf Samsung, get your act together. I heard rumors about slow updates but wow. At this time now the evolution had cm6 and a real rom from HTC/Google.
Anyways, hurry up Sammy or I'm going back to htc with the g2.
Edit: lets not be stupid either, if Samsung could fix this GPS issue, it would be fixed by now and the epic as they said would work would work properly ...
I've lost all faith on a software issue and believe its hardware. Why else would every version be wacked.
Just in case though I'm giving them till the g2.
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Its been 2 months here very shortly and we have no GPS fix or any word on froyo. FROYO has been out since may, the n1 has it, evolution has it, incredible, d2, dx soon, g2 etc. But no Samsung galaxy or even rumor on when we should get it.
The GPS fix was promissed this month, and well its halfway over I just don't see within the next two weeks a GPS fix being rolled out. Of course also no word on froyoz and not only that but CM6.1 may or may not even support our sgs ..
Sooooo, if there is no froyo or atleast a GPS fix by Oct 8th (rumored g2 release date) I'm selling this damn thing on Craigslist and getting a g2...
I love the vibrant way more than the g2 but I'm sure its gps will work and its coming with stock 2.2.
Wtf Samsung, get your act together. I heard rumors about slow updates but wow. At this time now the evolution had cm6 and a real rom from HTC/Google.
Anyways, hurry up Sammy or I'm going back to htc with the g2.
Edit: lets not be stupid either, if Samsung could fix this GPS issue, it would be fixed by now and the epic as they said would work would work properly ...
I've lost all faith on a software issue and believe its hardware. Why else would every version be wacked.
Just in case though I'm giving them till the g2.
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question , do you really think Samsung comes to XDA and reads these ?
ppl cluttering my forum lulz
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question , do you really think Samsung comes to XDA and reads these ?
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Answer: no, why would I think that?
Question: why such a dumb question?
scrizz said:
ppl cluttering my forum lulz
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Well just remember this post when there's no GPS fix or froyo out when there's yet another released phone running froyo.
Nice theory.
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The thing is... These half assed threats of switching to a different phone vendor are pretty lame. No one (including samsung, HTC and google) cares what phone you have. Keep the vibrant, dont keep the vibrant. Who cares.
When you got on your rant what were you setting out to accomplish? Oh...thats right. Nothing.
So here is an idea. If you are an unhappy customer and feel the company you bought your phone from. The same company that you did your reasearch on and accepted the risk the phone bring updated wouldnt fit into your time frame. Use your powers of free will and go.but something else.
Good day sir.
The samsung galaxy s i9000 has froyo.
The thing I don't understand is everyone is having lag and gps issues but me. I have no lag at all. I use my gps to navigate daily, plus I use it for geocaching and always come within 10 feet of the cache. I just don't get it.
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The thing is... These half assed threats of switching to a different phone vendor are pretty lame. No one (including samsung, HTC and google) cares what phone you have. Keep the vibrant, dont keep the vibrant. Who cares.
When you got on your rant what were you setting out to accomplish? Oh...thats right. Nothing.
So here is an idea. If you are an unhappy customer and feel the company you bought your phone from. The same company that you did your reasearch on and accepted the risk the phone bring updated wouldnt fit into your time frame. Use your powers of free will and go.but something else.
Good day sir.
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amen to that...
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The thing is... These half assed threats of switching to a different phone vendor are pretty lame. No one (including samsung, HTC and google) cares what phone you have. Keep the vibrant, dont keep the vibrant. Who cares.
When you got on your rant what were you setting out to accomplish? Oh...thats right. Nothing.
PSo here is an idea. If you are an unhappy customer and feel the company you bought your phone from. The same company that you did your reasearch on and accepted the risk the phone bring updated wouldnt fit into your time frame. Use your powers of free will and go.but something else.
Good day sir.
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What's lame is you ranting In my topic about what I make a thread about. Obviously you cared and it made enough of a impact on you to reply . I have every right to ***** and you will see more of it from others for the rest of your life. So before you act lime a preacher and try and change the world/forum, think again, your post is as washed up as this supposed topic your saying.
I stand by my topic, we should all be frustrated for Samsung not fixing our GPS or atleast saying its completely fubared. Froyo, where's froyo? I've got valid gripes and *****es, that's what forums are for and I think many agree things are getting to near and we don't see no light at the end of the tunnel.
Yes Samsung should care on their Rep cause in the end that's what gets them a returning customer.
I was all for this phone and backing up waiting, but common were going on a quarter of a year withouwfixes or froyo, some people don't but have a phone for 6 months, 3 of that 6 there waiting like crackheads for a bag?
Please no rude responses I have a valid gripe
Good day ma'am
Couldnt you rant in the countless other "where is froyo" threads?
Why do you feel the need to make a new thread for something like this?
I'm all for stateing your opinion but atleast do it in an already existing thread about the exact same thing.
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Trev420 said:
Couldnt you rant in the countless other "where is froyo" threads?
Why do you feel the need to make a new thread for something like this?
I'm all for stateing your opinion but atleast do it in an already existing thread about the exact same thing.
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Why did you open this thread then if there's others?
Stop acting like forum police
Really this thread is a watch. Froyo nor gps fix will see this phone withing 1 month... so for those wanting to buy this phone for those reasons and expecting a fix this month, think again.
THERE WILL BE NO, I SAY AGAIN NO GPS FIX OR FROYO THIS MONTH OR EVEN SHORTLY AFTER. THAT IS WHY I WILL BE GETTI G A G2. I'd advise anyone needing GPS or froyo to find a new phone. Samsung isn't gonna do **** anytime soon... yes that's negative but I'm a realist, it's not gonna happen.
I personally don't care if there's "yet another thread" about this. I understand people are pissed (I get pissed too). Yeah, Sammy doesn't care whether we are happy or not - they are a huge multinational corporation half a world away. There are so many layers between us and their management it's not even funny. Our concerns get lost in a call log of a customer service department or in a product manager's inbox of automated reports. Plus, even if they did read and have concern about these issues, it's too late. Usually it's cheaper for them to take these issues and fix them in the next iteration of the product than to re-tool the factory or make a change on the line. A massive corporation like Samsung is all about efficiency and not stopping production. Our only hope is a software fix or, by the grace of God, a recall if the problem is so bad it requires legal action.
I agree with the poster that says we can just walk away and get a different phone or whatever. However, some of us paid $500 for this thing and it's a significant investment to buy yet another phone. Yeah we can eBay it (which is what I would do). Or for others it's just a disappointment because ON-PAPER this is the "perfect phone". I'm a little of both. I love this phone - the form factor, the screen, the UI, etc - but it's not operating as advertised. If the phone would work as intended it would be my perfect phone. That's what many of us are holding out hope for. We are frustrated and want a fix, not a new phone.
I had to get rid of my Evo because of horrendous QC problem (mine was literally coming apart). It was almost heartbreaking because I waited so long for that damn phone to come out. But once I got the Vibrant, the Evo was forgotten about - until the buzz wore off and the lag and GPS issue became a serious problem. OK, I'm done storytelling.
With over 2 weeks left in the month, let's hope Sammy pulls through and tries to save their reputation. I'll say this though - I will think VERY carefully next time I buy a Samsung phone.
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What's lame is you ranting In my topic about what I make a thread about. Obviously you cared and it made enough of a impact on you to reply . I have every right to ***** and you will see more of it from others for the rest of your life. So before you act lime a preacher and try and change the world/forum, think again, your post is as washed up as this supposed topic your saying.
I stand by my topic, we should all be frustrated for Samsung not fixing our GPS or atleast saying its completely fubared. Froyo, where's froyo? I've got valid gripes and *****es, that's what forums are for and I think many agree things are getting to near and we don't see no light at the end of the tunnel.
Yes Samsung should care on their Rep cause in the end that's what gets them a returning customer.
I was all for this phone and backing up waiting, but common were going on a quarter of a year withouwfixes or froyo, some people don't but have a phone for 6 months, 3 of that 6 there waiting like crackheads for a bag?
Please no rude responses I have a valid gripe
Good day ma'am
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i agree i just talked to android about it. they said not anytime soon because 1 month ahead they get notified if they update would come to a certain phone or not. and she said there is nothing about 2.2 on vibrant. so we are ****ed..
You must be part of a forum gang.
If you are so unhappy with your phone do yourself and this forum are favor by returning it and get a phone with froyo.
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i agree i just talked to android about it. they said not anytime soon because 1 month ahead they get notified if they update would come to a certain phone or not. and she said there is nothing about 2.2 on vibrant. so we are ****ed..
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That is strange, I talked to Samsung at the beginning of the month, they said when they dropped 2.2 for the International one, which has happened, they pushed the build to their "vendors" at the same time. So now it is in the hands of Tmo/ATT and such to finish their "customizing"(read "****ing up") of 2.2 before they push it out ...
Disclaimer: Samsung info may be bogus, but has as much chance as any other source to be accurate.
rbirg said:
You must be part of a forum gang.
If you are so unhappy with your phone do yourself and this forum are favor by returning it and get a phone with froyo.
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Yes exactly, Come oct 8th I will be getting a phone with froyo. I just don't want to have to play the sale my vibrant game, and miss the things I do love like the screen.
And why the heck no cm6 yet? Hell people bought them a vibrant just for us and still nothing...
Doesn't it seem at least a bit difficult to port Froyo to another phone as a side hobby?
Edit: let alone get the gps working too . Not like froyo is the be all end all fix for everyone's problems.
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rbirg said:
Doesn't it seem at least a bit difficult to port Froyo to another phone as a side hobby?
Edit: let alone get the gps working too . Not like froyo is the be all end all fix for everyone's problems.
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Hell the dam hd2 has froyo on it and its not even a android phone. What's going on with vibrant development.... unmarked maybe I should sell the vibrant and big 2 hd2s and put froyo on them and give my wife one.. lol
Sad that a non android phone has froyo but yet a 2 month old top of the line android phone is yet to even have a custom rom.. lmaooo.
I've supported this phone up till now. Now, I'm pissed. Sorry to upset some of you but this is utter crap.
If anything, anything give us a GPS fix.
Edit: also I have a n1 with froyo, were missing a lot without it..
It's weird nobody has noticed or said anything about this yet, because it's really frustrating me.
As you probably know, Xperia Arc comes with a new screen technology called TrueTouch, which supports up to 32-points of contact. There's an issue which I believe Android is not handling apparently right. When writing (using any keyboard). If I try to write fast, it will make a drift between the first and second letter pressed, and of course, non letter will be written. Is it happening to anyone who likes to write fast?
If you don't see it, another way to see this problem, is going to the main screen, and just touching fast with two fingers, with a bit of distance between them, and not at the exact same time, and you will see how it changes to the next panel, because it's like you'd slided to change the panel (see the image below). I'm concerned about this, cuz I used to write really fast with a sucky iPhone. I really love my arc but this is annoying.
I even wrote to Cypress, the screen manufacturer, and they told me this: "Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with our touchscreen controller. The drift which you are seeing is because of the way application is written on the top layer. Unfotunately, I won't be able to share much of the technical information with respect to this part because this information is shared only if the customer is qualified."
I assume Android is not set up yet to work proper with this TrueTouch. Can any developer fix this? Or let the android people know? Maybe turn the screen into 2-points only so it won't drift? IDK! Please, anybody?
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UPDATE:
Guys I think there's something we can do to rush the update for this problem! Go in here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16112&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars and give a STAR to the case. When a case has more stars, the android dev team pays more attention. If it ask you to sign in, I think you can just use your google account as I did.
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We got answer from a Google's Developer:
"Thanks for your report. However, in this case it is best that you bring this issue to the attention of your phone manufacturer. The Android Open-Source Project allows companies to bring devices to market by customizing the Android source code as they see fit. Therefore, the Android team is unable to help with issues regarding specific devices."
And as I replied to him: how comes? I don't think this is a "specific devices" problem. It's just S.E. was the first to implement this kind of screen. Google should add support considering other brands will probably start implementing this technology too. However, I guess we will have to wait until custom ROMS start coming out and some developer fix this for all of us.
Does anybody knows how to contact Sony Ericsson? Their website is too limited and all customer service representatives only say "go to your operator's office" and useless stuff like that. We need to send emails to the HQ. Any ideas?
I also noticed this I thought the touch was very bad even broken and take the phone back.
But after some testing I concluded it wasn't broken but it was a software issue. So I think we have to wait for updates to fix this proplem.
Hope to see it get fixxed.
PS. Not every touch visualiser works well on the arc.
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Works fine for me, way better than my X10
Thank god I'm not the only one, hehe. Do you think there's anything we can do to notify this to Sony Ericsson? I think if we do so, they'll fix it fast.
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PS. Not every touch visualiser works well on the arc.
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That's right, because they're not written for TrueTouch support. Android should be aware of this, considering this is the first phone with this type of screen. Is there any developer who can check on this?
Ive noticed trouble as above too, but mainly when pinch to zoom my screen always shoots to the right, try it, zoom in, keep your 2fingers still once youve pinched in or out and youl see what I mean
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StickyGeko said:
Ive noticed trouble as above too, but mainly when pinch to zoom my screen always shoots to the right, try it, zoom in, keep your 2fingers still once youve pinched in or out and youl see what I mean
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Damn! You're right. As I said, there's gotta be a way we can notify Android Developers or Sony Ericsson to make the fix in the software so the TrueTouch can work right. Any ideas?
I think we can solve it with this
Guys I think there's something we can do to rush the update for this problem! Go in here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16112&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars and give a STAR to the case. When a case has more stars, the android dev team pays more attention. If it ask you to sign in, I think you can just use your google account as I did.
A star to fix the arc's screen problems!
Hey guys I think there's something we can do to rush the update for this problem! Go in here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16112&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars and give a STAR to the case. When a case has more stars, the android dev team pays more attention. If it ask you to sign in, I think you can just use your google account as I did.
If you don't know which problem i'm talking about, you can read the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12880602
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We got answer from a Google's Developer:
"Thanks for your report. However, in this case it is best that you bring this issue to the attention of your phone manufacturer. The Android Open-Source Project allows companies to bring devices to market by customizing the Android source code as they see fit. Therefore, the Android team is unable to help with issues regarding specific devices."
And as I replied to him: how comes? I don't think this is a "specific devices" problem. It's just S.E. was the first to implement this kind of screen. Google should add support considering other brands will probably start implementing this technology too. However, I guess we will have to wait until custom ROMS start coming out and some developer fix this for all of us.
Does anybody knows how to contact Sony Ericsson? Their website is too limited and all customer service representatives only say "go to your operator's office" and useless stuff like that. We need to send emails to the HQ. Any ideas?
I confirm this problem! I had similar situatiot at hd2 so I decided to change into Arc :-S lol btw now I'm not going to change the phone because I very like arc. We have to inform SE about this issue and I hope some firmware can fix this;-) now I have to write a little bit slow to avoid that
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Also noticed this when typing, especially in landscape mode using two fingers...
I bought ARC to avoid this issue from HD2, and what: surprise... But hd2 is old timer and old touch technology.. Has anybody inform se support about that??
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Response from google:
Thanks for your report. However, in this case it is best that you bring this issue to the attention of your phone manufacturer. The Android Open-Source Project allows companies to bring devices to market by customizing the Android source code as they see fit. Therefore, the Android team is unable to help with issues regarding specific devices.
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so we go knocking SE door?
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so we go knocking SE door?
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Definitely! The thing is there's no way through S.E. website to get in touch with somebody from the headquarters. They just have useless representatives by country who actually won't escalate our problem. It would be nice if we could send an email to Sir Bert Nordberg (president), or Rikko Sakaguchi or Kristian Tear (VP's). Any ideas?
I send email to Polish SE support with link to code.google website from 1st post.
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arcanixX said:
Definitely! The thing is there's no way through S.E. website to get in touch with somebody from the headquarters. They just have useless representatives by country who actually won't escalate our problem. It would be nice if we could send an email to Sir Bert Nordberg (president), or Rikko Sakaguchi or Kristian Tear (VP's). Any ideas?
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Like you said, where are we gonna complain, we can tweet the sonyericsson?
Karooluss said:
I send email to Polish SE support with link to code.google website from 1st post.
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SE answered to me, that they haven't noticed this problem, and that I should update my software (wtf) :|
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Karooluss said:
SE answered to me, that they haven't noticed this problem, and that I should update my software (wtf) :|
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This is standard BS. Always if you come with a problem they expect a noob with no knowledge at all and say do a update, or a wipe this will help. I'm in the IT world and know how it goes and this kind off stuff can make me angry
Karooluss said:
SE answered to me, that they haven't noticed this problem, and that I should update my software (wtf) :|
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Goddamn! Just like I said, they're useless. Any ideas how to get in touch with some useful developer from sony ericsson? Google is rolled out, Cypress is rolled out, so our real choiceschoices are to insist with sony or r wait until some custom rom that actually will fix this.
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I tried to replicate the case with home screen, but I didn't see any.
I found the problem with typo when typing too fast as well, but it seems to me it's not caused by TrueTouch.