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Free T9 like dialer Program

03/09/2004
ExtendedPhone has gone Cemercial.
You can download a trial version from the leading PPC software sites.
There is still an old free version on page 4 in this thread but keep in mind that this is an old version and there and will be are many improovements in the comercial one.
I have developed a T9 like dialer using .NETCF.
(That means you need Pocket 2003 ,or Pocket 2002 with .NETCF SDF installed)
The dialer works very nicely on my device.
I plan to extend the features but first i need some feedback from you people.
They both work fine on my SX56. (May be the XDA II needs the ARMV4.)
If you have other processors i'll upload the appropriate files by request.
Any feedback or suggestion is welcome.
P.S For now it works only on Latin Alphabet

Anyone?
Whats the matter people .
No one is coming in here.
May be this is not the right forum to release a new software?

I'm interested, but was waiting for someone else to try it first! (You could be anybody releasing a virus or something )
Have you mapped the green 'Answer' button to your program like PhonePlus2 does?

Not yet
The software is still in alpha stage.
I just need some feedback on what i did so far.
(search algorithm, performance bugs etc...)
PhonePlus2 is a commercial software and has been around for a while.
I don't have the time to work full time so go easy on me.

i installed it & it says could not read service provider, getservice bla bla, so looks like its not made for us, what could be the prob;em?
Xda I
Rom: 4.05
Radio 4.01
wm 2003

Tried it on my SPV M1000, WM 2003, ROM 1.72.
Works, but, as you said, it's definitely in its alpha phase. Here are my initial thoughts:
- not very responsive, slow.
- no possibility to scroll through contacts if more than 3 options are available.
- same very mediocre (I'd say ugly, but it's a matter of taste) design, from the interface to the buttons.
- Operater doesn't show up
- What's with the 'Cool Stuff'?
Anyway, thanks for your efforts. Will definitely stay tuned on the developments.

- not very responsive, slow.
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is that not just the bane of .net ?

First of all thanks for the feedback.
i installed it & it says could not read service provider, getservice bla bla, so looks like its not made for us, what could be the prob;em?
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I have uploaded a version without the "Service Provider" although it works on my sx56.
Works, but, as you said, it's definitely in its alpha phase. Here are my initial thoughts:
- not very responsive, slow.
- no possibility to scroll through contacts if more than 3 options are available.
- same very mediocre (I'd say ugly, but it's a matter of taste) design, from the interface to the buttons.
- Operater doesn't show up
- What's with the 'Cool Stuff'?
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As for the design I'll support skins later.
If you have more than three contats starting with the same Letter then press another button and if still have more yet another,
I could add another one or two options for contacts but then you could say why 5 , why not more?
Cool stuff is just a logo.
As for the speed i'm trying to optimize and i think this version is a little less slow (you are right Rudegar) but untill the next release of .NET CF the one we have bundled with windows is no match for NATIVE code hence the slow startup.
There is a newer version (1.1BETA) on later post.

its working good you first need to work on the speed then on the interface & would be grate if you link it to the messages since we can use it as a keyboard layout also, sorry i don't have much time to write a full description but i will do that tomorrow
since you are a programmer why don't you develop a sw for sending scheduled sms's, i would defenatly be intrested & make no mistake such sw has never been made for PPC yet so make & sell it

new dialer
looks great but is very slow it would be great if it was faster also could you add on some thing to make it easier to send sms,s when you are busy.
well done keep up the good work
regards kevin :lol:

new dialer
looks great but is very slow it would be great if it was faster also could you add on some thing to make it easier to send sms,s when you are busy.
well done keep up the good work
regards kevin :lol:

Thanks guys .
I'm working on the speed problem but for now all solutions make the size a lot biger with not much improvement.
As i see there are two problems:
1 Loading time:Loading time is a bit of a problem in .NET (because of it's nature)
I'm trying different techniques but with no significant improvement.
So in the mean time just minimize the program and don't close it.
2 The first letter of the contact:
I'm working on that and i'm geting somewhere.
As for the SMS i'll have to resolve the speed problem first but i'm thinking about it.
Stay tuned

elir,
Found some issue.
- USSD code not supported. E.g. press **21*xxxxxxxxxx# to make call forwarding but it's not support in your software.
- Only 3 slots in the searching result. Maybe I have 10 contacts match the result but fail to show the 4th to 10th
- Unable to enter "+" to dial a IDD call.
Cheers,
Paul

Source code?
Elir, what about releasing this piece of nice work under any open source licence? I'm a developer in .NET for 4 years, so maybe I can help you.
Is it in C# or VB.NET?
Suggestion for faster searching:
What about creating tree from Contacts in memory on the start of program? If my assumption your dialer searches in Contacts directly is right...

Found some issue.
- USSD code not supported. E.g. press **21*xxxxxxxxxx# to make call forwarding but it's not support in your software.
- Only 3 slots in the searching result. Maybe I have 10 contacts match the result but fail to show the 4th to 10th
- Unable to enter "+" to dial a IDD call.
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I'm working on international and ussd calls but as i said before want to resolve the speed issue first.
As for contacts slots , the whole point for an application like this is dialing one handed when bussy(driving etc...) , so adding slots will not help on that.
The only problem i see with this design is when you have more than three contacts with exactly the same first name.
This can be solved by adding search by last name but again i'm having speed problems as it is.
Elir, what about releasing this piece of nice work under any open source licence? I'm a developer in .NET for 4 years, so maybe I can help you.
Is it in C# or VB.NET?
Suggestion for faster searching:
What about creating tree from Contacts in memory on the start of program? If my assumption your dialer searches in Contacts directly is right...
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I don't know yet about open source but i can tell you thats written in c# with a lot of native code (.NET CF lacks all the phone and outlook functions)
Thanks for the suggestion but If i copy the entire phonebook to memory at startup :
It will add another 2 seconds (and i have only 180 contacts) and it is slow as it is.
It will allocate a big chunk of memory and as you probably know we don't have a lot of it.
More than that if you add or change a contact you'll have to restart the program for it to appear.
How about bugs?
Nobody has reported any.

What do you not know about open source?
Or you mean, that you are thinking about releasing final version as commercial software? Com'on man...
In C#? Nice one brother...
Hm... In my QTek 2020 is about 80MB of free memory, so what is problem? :wink:
About refresh of tree: Isn't possible to add some event handler on changes at Contacts database?
Bugs will follow very soon...

Hm... In my QTek 2020 is about 80MB of free memory, so what is problem?
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Most of us have XDA I so the memory problem is real.
About refresh of tree: Isn't possible to add some event handler on changes at Contacts database?
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As far as i know (and i have done some research) that is not possible.

Re-write in in C++ (or even with MFC) for much better speed. .NET sucks ass on a PC let alone a poor ikkle PPC!

New version
Hi all!
New version 1.0.3
Fixes:
1 International dialing
2 Now you can use pound key just for #
3 Less slower (at least in my xda)
Added a module to send SMS .
A little clumsy but .... .
I didn't check the Sms module thoroughly but for some reason it doesn't dial international numbers ( i think is the "+")
PS The sequence of characters can be changed( for now i just went by the abc)
There is a newer version (1.1BETA) on later post.

SMS
I found out that numbers begining with "+" cannot be used to send SMS.
I'll fix this bug tomorrow so wait for the next version.
Any suggestions for my qwerty keyboard are welcome.
Has anyone noticed a speed increase?

KikkerDialer- a new dialer available for Magician (Freeware)

Hi all,
We just released a new dialer (freeware) which you can download from Handango. You can download from
http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?productId=152403
Features included in KikkerDialer are:
- The most advanced number dialing system which allows for entry by number panel or keyboard, editing, insertion, copy / paste, etc
- Intuitive and simple UI providing the main functions of a phone such as contacts, dial, access to special characters (e.g. the + sign for international dialing)
- A user interface for selecting contacts which mimicks the most intuitive methods for selecting contacts such as those used within standard mobile phones such as Nokia, Sony Ericsson, etc
- Synchronisation with contacts database (mobile, work, home)
- Extremely fast and responsive to use
- Access to the Windows Mobile clipboard for copy / paste
Feedback welcomed. Enjoy.
Kikker Interactive

I'm sorry, but I really don't see what is so special about this software. Maybe I have got it wrong, but I would say that D9 is better than this, and PhonePlus is much better. I don't want to scroll to the letter J every time I want to call my friend John, and so on.
Copy and paste is nice, but where is the T9 contact selection as in D) and PhonePlus, I think that is a great feature.
The fact that this diealer resembles old standard GSM phones is of no interest.
Sorry for only giving bad feedback, but then again, I might haven't found the cool features.

nteresting… just tried this
First comment - good to see another free dialer out there given what shipped with the jam.
ave only tried this for abt 15 minutes but like it very much so far. Is a lot faster than D9 (my only complaint with that software – I have ~ 1,000 contacts in my jam and the UI is v unresponsive). The thing I like with this new dialer too is the editable text field which seems to be missing on most other apps out there. The ability to edit a number before a call (e.g. insert +44 if not already in international prefix), insert a digit when you have entered incorrectly, etc is just what I was after. Would be nice to see call history in there too btw.

Intuitive and simple UI providing the main functions of a phone such as contacts, dial, access to special characters (e.g. the + sign for international dialing) --->Cool... :wink:

Crashed on my WWE Qtek S100 .. when I try to call ..
Carlis

Hi Carlis,
In the first few hours of release, the first installer required you to have OpenNETCF on your device. It seems not so many people have this so we fixed this issue and now you no longer need this on your device.
You should uninstall the KikkerDialer and run the the new installer file (now setup.exe - ~2MB), downloadable from the same location at Handango. Please give this a go and let us know if any probs - [email protected]
Best rgds,
Kikker Interactive

I'm surprised all of you think different than me, but I will give it another try, I guess. I still don't think it can compare with PhonePlus with all the features it has, but then again it's freware.
/T

Cant downlod the Setup.exe, it still downloads the setup.msi, is this the right version? I'm getting the same crash. Can someone post it here?

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Cant downlod the Setup.exe, it still downloads the setup.msi, is this the right version? I'm getting the same crash. Can someone post it here?
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for me the download link does not work at all. Page cannot be displayed.

Well, I downloaded the MSI-file from handandgo. Now in can run on my T-Mobile MDA Compact but when I try to dial, it crashes:
KikkerDialer.exe
TypeLoadException
Failed to load type OpenNETCF.Notification.Led from OpenNETCF.Notification, Version=1.2.3346.0, Culture-neutral, PublicKey Token= 30C767B29D52D6E6
Can it be fixed? I wanted to test this application concerning tone dial (DTMF sending).

Anonymous said:
Hi Carlis,
In the first few hours of release, the first installer required you to have OpenNETCF on your device. It seems not so many people have this so we fixed this issue and now you no longer need this on your device.
You should uninstall the KikkerDialer and run the the new installer file (now setup.exe - ~2MB), downloadable from the same location at Handango. Please give this a go and let us know if any probs - [email protected]
Best rgds,
Kikker Interactive
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Hi
Thank´s for the answer...
but .. hm .. its not an exe on the same location .. its still the MSI ..
Carlis

ZeroXtreme, 718 & Carlis - Our apologies - we actually meant to the setup.MSI - the file you see up there is the right one (it is not an .exe).
However, seems some of you are still getting a runtime issue on your devices. We suspect this is due to a missing DLL - but cannot replicate your issue right this moment. We've just received some more devices now tho and are retesting. Will post a response here shortly. Feel free to email us directly in the meantime.
Iggy - the handango site must have been having problems. You should try again.
Kikker Interactive

Beta testing - never easy. I'm having enough trouble and bugs beta testing Mobi Dial 2.5 right now, so I'll think I'll pass on this one. Someone let me know when there actually is a legit, ergonomically competent and STABLE replacement dialer out there.

OK thank you all for your patience.
Our new devices arrived and we were able to replicate the issue that some of you were having. This has now been solved with a new version of the setup.msi (now named setup_20050202.msi as Handango doesn't seem to allow overwriting).
You can either download the new app from Handango (http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?productId=152403) or we've also hosted it at http://69.20.6.190/KikkerDialer/setup_20050202.msi for your convenience.
If you don't want to go through the process of download + installing the 2MB file again, there is an easier way for those of you who already have the previous version installed. Please follow the steps here:
1. Quit the KikkerDialer
2. Download two dll's http://69.20.6.190/KikkerDialer/OpenNETCF.Notification.dll and http://69.20.6.190/KikkerDialer/OpenNETCF.Phone.dll
3. Copy both files to \Program Files\KikkerDialer on your device (or wherever you installed the dialer)
4. Restart the app
Any problems - please let us know. Again, apologies for the false start for some of you. From those who were not affected however, we had some v positive feedback and to repay all your efforts, will add some more features within the next few weeks
Kikker Interactive

Yes, with the dlls you provided the program starts okay. However, I failed to dial DTMF tones. Sometimes it is necessary to dial extention or enter a PIN-code. Such a pitty!

Exelent .. thx.. it now works on a Swedish WWE Qtek s100 without need of the extra dll´s ..
Only thing that is missing .. DTMF codes .. to use bank transactions and so..
When they ask for my account nr .. and I press the keys.. nothing happends..
And finaly .. how to replace the old dailer hardware keys.. Green and Red phone keys to be using Ur dailer.. it still actiavte the old one..
Best Regards Carlis

Hi - ok glad we got all the installer issues cleared up.
Yep - DTMF tones are not supported currently. As users of the software, here is what we do:
- Make the call using KikkerDialer
- When prompted to enter PIN (etc), press the green call button and the standard windows dialer will appear
- Type in your code using this interface
This works fine against all systems. Obviously not as intuitive. We are however, working on building in DTMF into our next release and have made some progress so far but won't ship till its ready. At the same time, we'll try to address the issue of how to bind KikkerDialer to the green call button.
Keep giving us your feedback in the meantime, v useful.
Best rgds,
Kikker Interactive

Would you manage dialing DTMF tones, you'll be great! But please note that the standard Windows dialer do not work correctly with the DTMF tones. There is something wrong with the duration of the tone, as I suppose. So with that dialer I often reach wrong extention or dial wrong number.

First of all thank you for the freeware.
in spite that, I dont think I would throw phoneplus away yet which serves my every needs.
But it is nice to see some developers trying to give some fight to proffesionals.

Thanks for all your comments. We're still working on getting a v1.0 out there shortly and the latest is good news. From the latest development version of the KikkerDialer, we now have full control of all the JAM buttons such as the direction pad middle button (to select contacts), the green dial button (to open the dialer and make calls), etc. This feature alone allows for complete one handed usage of the dialer (i.e. no stylus).
Now focus remains on adding:
- Call history
- Easier searching on contacts
- DTMF
This last, frequently requested, item is proving to be quite a challenge. We shall persist!
Best rgds,
Kikker Interactive

What have you always wanted programming...

What have you always wanted programming for the PDA?
I still haven't got a final year project idea :?

BigDamHero said:
What have you always wanted programming for the PDA?
I still haven't got a final year project idea :?
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Linux or any other open source OS

Strip poker!

Linux or any other open source OS
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Slightly beyond my expertise/porject time limit.
Strip poker!
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Outstanding. I'll put the idea to my project supervisor tomorrow :wink:

animated icons, or animated today screen displays

a real time vioce converter
like in scream the movie

1. I'm hoping for a multitrack recorder. There are hardware devices as low as $200 - why can't our $800 devices do something similar - make something that will record one track and playback another simultaneously, then you can play it all back at the same time. Perfect for recording vocals, a capellas, voiceovers, you name it.
2. New interfaces or replacement apps with nice interfaces. If you watch in the movies, you'll see a guy holding a PDA with some cool, large fonts, black screen, art deco designs, scrolling or text incrementing one character at a time as if being transmitted. It's fun, flashy, animated, and turns heads. It could also be practical. What do we have now? An email, contacts, and/or phone app that's pretty bland. Tahoma at 8 or 10 point. White background, boring interface. Heck, make it a Star Trek LCARS pad.
3. An online trivia game. I'm waiting for a game that will allow a bunch of players online to be the first to answer each question and compare scores. Do a search for "Buzztime Trivia," a game for BREW and J2ME playforms.

Activesync that works on my thinkpad !! :lol: :lol:

a replacement caller id program that looks up area codes via a locally stored database and displays the caller's city if the phone number is not stored in contacts. or strip blackjack for those of us that suck at poker. :wink:

ActiveSync with something other than Outlook! Personally, I'm a die-hard Firefox / Thunderbird bloke. I resent (but understand) having to run Outlook on my lovely lappie just so I can keep an easy backup of contacts etc.
Being able to sync with standards based email client / calendar apps would be a blessing!
Heck, you could always put some smutty easter eggs in :lol:

Something that allows you to record your phone calls? Is this possible?

I think you can already do that with the note recorder... but thats not a bad idea. Automated phone call recording with cataloguing.
I dont think it would make the greatest final year project, though.

How do you record a call with the note application?
As you say, it would be nice if the last 10 calls showed up in a list somewhere, along with time/number and full recording .

program to give the winning lottery numbers.
or used to be a program on the palm that would allow you to have an image on the screen as a lock instead of the number pad, and you selected the points on the image that you had to touch to unlock the phone.

A program to get the cell id that the handset is connected too and work out roughly on a map where you are. Like a poor mans GPS.

o2guy - see celltrack http://celltrack.spv-developers.com/
V

ShALLaX said:
I think you can already do that with the note recorder... but thats not a bad idea. Automated phone call recording with cataloguing.
I dont think it would make the greatest final year project, though.
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what about an answer phone?

How about you modify the cell track code to show your location on the handset, instead of sending to a signature. In fact i think i might use this idea for my final year project.

THIS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26359&highlight=

New FTouchSL 2.7 available!

I am happy to announce that that new FTouchSL 2.7 available for download now!
This version brings a lot of new functionality together with improved reliability and broken limitations of previous versions.
New features are:
* New gestures recognition engine introduced together with four additional gestures: Down-Left Slide, Down-Right Slide, Up-Left Slide and Up-Right Slide.
* Visual and sound notifications confirming assigned actions execution
* Settings export and import functionality
* Additional kinetic-scrolling parameters
* "Tasks switcher" plug-in added.
Improvements:
* Scrolling and kinetic-scrolling engines improved to scroll smoother in slow applications
* FTouchSL is now compatible with the Transcriber and Windows™ internal calibration utility
* Better VGA devices support (especially ETen devices)
Other changes:
* Fixed German and Russian translations
* Old gestures renamed:
o "UpDown" to "Down Slide"
o "DownUp" to "Up Slide"
o "LeftRight" to "Right Slide"
o "RightLeft" to "Left Slide"
In addition in this version we have fixed most of known bugs.
More details about new features can be found on the Product information page.
Registered customers can upgrade to this version free of charge:
- Download new version from Download page and install it.
- Request new license key in the Client area.

Small, fast, light, and best of all - all the feature improvements will make it all the better. Not to complain, so I won't!

Great work!!

i dont mean to nag, but this is technically advertising, as this is not freeware.
I know we do tend to tolerate more from senior members (selling old devices especially)

I have looked a couple of times but what do the program parameters have to do with anything? I can set up other stuff fine but jsut wanted to know what it was and how to use it. Thanks

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i dont mean to nag, but this is technically advertising, as this is not freeware.
I know we do tend to tolerate more from senior members (selling old devices especially)
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It may be an advertisement, but how long did the original free version sit on this forum, in fact it's still available. If you ask me, efrost has done excellent work here and if he wants to update us on newer versions, then I'm sure numerous people would be more than okay with it.

efrost said:
I am happy to announce that that new FTouchSL 2.7 available for download now!
This version brings a lot of new functionality together with improved reliability and broken limitations of previous versions.
New features are:
* New gestures recognition engine introduced together with four additional gestures: Down-Left Slide, Down-Right Slide, Up-Left Slide and Up-Right Slide.
* Visual and sound notifications confirming assigned actions execution
* Settings export and import functionality
* Additional kinetic-scrolling parameters
* "Tasks switcher" plug-in added.
Improvements:
* Scrolling and kinetic-scrolling engines improved to scroll smoother in slow applications
* FTouchSL is now compatible with the Transcriber and Windows™ internal calibration utility
* Better VGA devices support (especially ETen devices)
Other changes:
* Fixed German and Russian translations
* Old gestures renamed:
o "UpDown" to "Down Slide"
o "DownUp" to "Up Slide"
o "LeftRight" to "Right Slide"
o "RightLeft" to "Left Slide"
In addition in this version we have fixed most of known bugs.
More details about new features can be found on the Product information page.
Registered customers can upgrade to this version free of charge:
- Download new version from Download page and install it.
- Request new license key in the Client area.
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Hey did you get the up-right and down-left from somewhere - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382375 j/k looks nice i think i might just have to buy it after all

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It may be an advertisement, but how long did the original free version sit on this forum, in fact it's still available. If you ask me, efrost has done excellent work here and if he wants to update us on newer versions, then I'm sure numerous people would be more than okay with it.
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i agree cause after all this fourm is about sharing ideas or products

I love it! Thanks!

Its okay if efrost advertise his application because he has made the free version already for us..the previous version..and I really appreciated it..anyway without advertising this site will be boring since you won't find out about new products and applications..just my 2 cent

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Its okay if efrost advertise his application because he has made the free version already for us..the previous version..and I really appreciated it..anyway without advertising this site will be boring since you won't find out about new products and applications..just my 2 cent
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perhaps he or you could share that (N-0.1 version : N=2.7)free version too ,rather than warez killing babies people are providing source code for icontact already in other thread,it depends which way one wants to go. it also depends with what motive do developers reach to xda-developers website ,in history i have seen tcpmp player 0.71 RC1 source and player were provided which is still being used by most of us which streamlined and became core player 1 later which least of us use ,it is now lying some tiny extinct corner of the hard drive. unlike tcpmp 0.81 which is still playing lyrics youtube flash videos and aac and will go on and on. choice is yours because you have a better vision of your software .

efrost gave me lifetime registration as a result of donating and supporting his early ftouchflo verion. This is totally in the right spirit and I'm very excited to see the new version and its features!
About the new gestures, would you be able to add Left-Down and Right-Down in the next update? It's easier and less tiring than Up-Right and Up-Left - more natural because it falls with gravity.
With these added you could use the two as excellent gesture pairs. If there's a PPC program that can restore last-minimised application (is there??), you could use Right-Down to minimise, then Up-Left to bring it up again!

frenchglen said:
efrost gave me lifetime registration as a result of donating and supporting his early ftouchflo verion. This is totally in the right spirit and I'm very excited to see the new version and its features!
About the new gestures, would you be able to add Left-Down and Right-Down in the next update? It's easier and less tiring than Up-Right and Up-Left - more natural because it falls with gravity.
With these added you could use the two as excellent gesture pairs. If there's a PPC program that can restore last-minimised application (is there??), you could use Right-Down to minimise, then Up-Left to bring it up again!
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If you use QuickMenu, you can create a shortcut through the options, to "activate next" or "activate prev", it will create the shortcuts in your programs directory.

Looks like this version fixes bug that my touchscreen freezes after suspend. Good work, because I had this bug in ftouchflo, touchcommander and even in spb pocket plus!
Good work, I'll probably buy it

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If you use QuickMenu, you can create a shortcut through the options, to "activate next" or "activate prev", it will create the shortcuts in your programs directory.
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I most certainly do use Quickmenu, sounds great! However I can only see "activate next"...I go down to bottom of list using my D-pad, right down to "Option" but can't find "Activate previous".
I use version 2.7.387.1527.

I tried for a day the new 2.7 version and for 3 times until now suddently the touch screen doesn't work at all. I can recalibrate the screen and this works fine but after calibration the touch screen again doesn't respond at all, only keys works. This solved only after soft reset. I tested to eten glofiish X600.

bull**** man...
first create a product and get FREE testing from the community then improve it and sell it. GOOSSH, you forget where you came from.
Would be more fair to create a free version and a non-free(if at all) version.

joefso said:
bull**** man...
first create a product and get FREE testing from the community then improve it and sell it. GOOSSH, you forget where you came from.
Would be more fair to create a free version and a non-free(if at all) version.
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I don't think this is kinda fair.. efrost create a freeware which most of us benefit from it greatly.
He then take it further and developed a much more advanced piece of application where one now needs to pay. I don't understand why can't he do that?
For those who wants the freeware, it's still available around here. For those who don't mind paying for a greater featured piece of application, he/she can do so too.
So, what's wrong with his actions? It's not like he took away the freeware where people contributed their input to. Not to mention that he improved on that to a certain extent based on the feedback. I don't think he did it to get free testing.. I think he saw the potential to convert the freeware to a more advance piece of application which he can earn some cash, which I believe will enable him to further develop the software or other piece of softwares, which in turn will benefit the WM community.
Sian

Sian said:
I don't think this is kinda fair.. efrost create a freeware which most of us benefit from it greatly.
He then take it further and developed a much more advanced piece of application where one now needs to pay. I don't understand why can't he do that?
For those who wants the freeware, it's still available around here. For those who don't mind paying for a greater featured piece of application, he/she can do so too.
So, what's wrong with his actions? It's not like he took away the freeware where people contributed their input to. Not to mention that he improved on that to a certain extent based on the feedback. I don't think he did it to get free testing.. I think he saw the potential to convert the freeware to a more advance piece of application which he can earn some cash, which I believe will enable him to further develop the software or other piece of softwares, which in turn will benefit the WM community.
Sian
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Bug fixes? What is software that is unmainted? dead.

joefso said:
Would be more fair to create a free version and a non-free(if at all) version.
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Free = scrolling only
Non-free = gestures and corners
What's the problem?

Free applications as per request

Hi all
I am a software developer and I am interested in developing smartphone applications on my spare time (and I have a lot) for free.
What I need is ideas…. Meaning, me my self has HTC Diamond and all of my application needs is modest but I am sure that you guys probably have more needs then I do and …. My be you can help me help you … so bring on the ideas (… just not themes and all of this kind of applications).
Thanks

csharpcoder4u said:
Hi all
I am a software developer and I am interested in developing smartphone applications on my spare time (and I have a lot) for free.
What I need is ideas…. Meaning, me my self has HTC Diamond and all of my application needs is modest but I am sure that you guys probably have more needs then I do and …. My be you can help me help you … so bring on the ideas (… just not themes and all of this kind of applications).
Thanks
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Very good.
Okay, I've got a request:
I need a little program, which is the same like BluePower which switches BT on when connecting to AC but a little bit more extended.
So, 2 things are very needed:
1. A popup which asks if BT should really switched on (YES/NO; Standard: YES)
2. This prog should recognize if a BT-device is connected so BT should stay on when loosing AC-Power
That's for now
-Lycox

- how about an application that converts any selected email or sms into an appointment
simple but very very usuful

photo uploader
hi, i'm looking for a program to upload, pictures/photo's/video to my own website. like, you make a picture and then you can select to upload it to your own specified website. maybe also the posebillety with gps position and some comments. don't know if it's possible.
pls think about it!
grtz heyk

hey i m looking for photoeditor for elfin can u made it

Really cool would be, to have an small app like g-profile, which for example turns on wi-fi on an fixed placed at an fixed time.
for example i come home, it recognizes this gsm singnal, and wi-fi turns on.
or i get to work, its not yet my breakt and it turns the volume to just vibra. than my break starts and volume turns up.
gprofile can do such thing but just with one reason, gsm OR time, i would need both

i want if you fancy making a simple but functional hard key program swapper so i can change the hardkeys setting easily to other programs.

thanks for the offer wish I could do this.
I wouldlike to log calls in contact notes like agendasfusion.
callcalendaris close but buggyand logsonly incalendar.
a weather app like weatherpanel where wallpaperis live radar
a calculator app with running tape, and a transparent keyboard

looks like youre gonna be busy!
i was thinkin recently of working with someone to make some palm pre-like apps
the fluidity of the apps on that device ive seen in preview vids and the wonderful use of the small screen real estate (no top and bottom bars, minimal buttons), is something that is almost necessary on screens like my htc touch (same screen size as the palm pre)
so, i would provide all the graphics for these apps, just need a developer
i think so far pocketcm contacts has contacts/sms covered.. very smooth scrolling, with a skin i can acheive the same simplicity and great use of fullscreen view on a small screen as i whippd up in this photoshop mockup:
i think what winmo needs is a good email interceptor app.. there are none that are skinnable to the extent of pocketcm contacts or as fluid, and then an image viewer (see palm pre screenshots of that app here -simple but very useful-:http://www.engadget.com/photos/palm-pre-official-ui-shots-1/1290333/ you can find videos all over) and a similar calendar app
most needed is the email app
if you could develop trust me.. you would have an insane following of obedient users
weve been looking for one for a long time, but its never come thru
if you make it, ill provide graphics!
think about it
htctoucher

What about a application, an actual good and working application that lets you create group distribution lists for email groups in your contacts similar to how the blackberry allows you to do it from their contact list and be able to use the group listing whether creating a new email or forwarding an email. I am shocked that this issue hasn't been addressed sooner.

dexstar said:
i want if you fancy making a simple but functional hard key program swapper so i can change the hardkeys setting easily to other programs.
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Try http://ae.inc.ru its called AE Button plus and its free

Woah man ur gonna be real busy

I like to be simple so........how about an application that will turn a picture into the real thing, like sayyy; Jessica Alba

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simple but very very usuful
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Complete lack of integration between calendar + contacts and email + contacts is very disheartening!

My problem is that I do a lot of presentations, and all the presentation pointer/remote apps out there cannot meet my needs in terms of simplicity. All of them require me to run a server app on my PC.
I have used one in Palm that emulates a bluetooth HID keyboard/mouse, meaning it can do anything that your mouse or keyboard can do. The app requires to have virtual keys for Ctrl, Alt, Del, Function keys.
Link to the BlueRemote software
http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&PartnerREF=&siteid=1&catid=16&area=software.category&searchtitle=Wireless%20%2F%20Networking%20%2F%20Communications&searchterm=&step=1&orderby=sales&direction=asc&userid=0&prodid=124035

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fatso485 said:
- how about an application that converts any selected email or sms into an appointment
simple but very very usuful
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Maybe a suggestion, in Microsoft Office, If we copy/paste or drag-drop email to Calender, then it becomes an appointment.
Maybe this could help you in some thinking...
ASh

Papi Jump
Hi!
My idea is to make a game, similar to Papi Jump (a great game for iPhone) - you can see the game on this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQxltToeNXo . It's an arcade game - you control a jumping ball with tilting your device.
It would be great if could make this game work for Windows Mobile.

Since we're all tossing stuff into the "wishing well", I can add something too
An application that would scroll RSS feeds on Home screen in Manila.
Of course, such an app isn't hard to make, the RSS Hub saves its channels into simple files - the problem is how to incorporate it into Home screen.
Well, I got an idea for that as well! Recently a small program called Personalizer showed up that enables us to change the network provider name into anything we want - that would be the perfect place for RSS scroller to show up! And since there already exists a way to modify this data, I suppose it would be possible to use Personalizer as backdoor for the feeds to show up in that text filed!
Even if they wouldn't actually "scroll", I think they could be made to change every 4-5 seconds.

fatso485 said:
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simple but very very usuful
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Or how about a Config-Editor for FingerPoint? ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499734 ) - so there's no more need to edit the XML Config File manually?

How about an application that reminds you to drink water and tracks how much water you have drank per day. As everyone should know, the average male should drink 3 to 5 liters of water everyday and ladies should drink 2 to 4 liters.
How about a litle app that:
1-Reminds you to drink
2-Allows you to input how much water you have drank (when reminded or manually)
In the long run, you could monitor how much water you consume on a monthly,qaurterly ,biannually and yearly basis.