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Name of CDMA Hermes?

Forgive me if this is blatently ovbious or under my nose, but what is the name of the CDMA flavor of the HTC Hermes?
I currently own a Verizon Wireless XV6600 which is known as the "HTC Harrier" because it is the CDMA version of the "HTC BlueAngel" which is the GSM version. Great phone! Love it to death!
I've been waiting patiently for Verizon to come out with the XV6800 because from what I can see about it, it is simply awesome over the 6600/6700. Additionally, my New-Every-Two promotion kicks in during this June. I'd love to take home a XV6800 at that time. I want to know what this phone is really called so if I have the urge to buy it branded as an HTC or other carrier, I will know it will work with the Verizon network.
Thanks in advance!

its called the titan ... not to be confused with tytn...

Thanks for that clarification.
If that's the case, then what is the difference between the HTC Hermes and the HTC TyTN?

AjStone said:
Thanks for that clarification.
If that's the case, then what is the difference between the HTC Hermes and the HTC TyTN?
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None, Hermes is the internal name, TyTN is the sales name

Does anybody know when the HTC Titan is going to be released under any carrier?

kevino said:
None, Hermes is the internal name, TyTN is the sales name
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It is NOT the same it is called the HTC p4000 or Titan, has a different chip (400mhz Qualcomm) a bigger memory, and the keyboard opens to the right, it is already out with Telus. See the link below which states it comes with WM6 but it does not, it has WM5 installed.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=697

HTC Mogul (Sprint) Unlock for TMO?

i found a pretty good deal for an HTC Mogul online and it's branded as Sprint right now, would I be able to unlock this and use it on T-Mobile? I have a Wizard right now.

Sprint = CDMA... TMo = GSM... good luck!

that's why I asked!

The T-Mobile Wing is very similar to the Mogul, but it's a little slower. If you like the Mogul that's the closest HTC GSM phone. I've used the Wing and I like it a lot, but I like my Mogul better.

dragon_76 said:
The T-Mobile Wing is very similar to the Mogul, but it's a little slower. If you like the Mogul that's the closest HTC GSM phone. I've used the Wing and I like it a lot, but I like my Mogul better.
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Yea I have a Wizard right now and the wing has the same processor so I'm not going to be upgrading to it, I just saw the 400mhz processor in the Mogul. Maybe I'll save my nickles and dimes and hope for a tytn

dragon_76 said:
The T-Mobile Wing is very similar to the Mogul, but it's a little slower. If you like the Mogul that's the closest HTC GSM phone. I've used the Wing and I like it a lot, but I like my Mogul better.
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Please don't give ****ty advice -- this isn't helpful. The Wing/Atlas is quite inferior to the Mogul.
OP, the Mogul is a CDMA-based cousin of the GSM-based series of devices that have made HTC famous. The true sequel to the HTC Wizard is the HTC Hermes, and there is an absolute crapload of information available right here at xda-developers that can help you get the most out of your device if you go with a Hermes. I have two active contracts (one with T-Mobile and one with Sprint), and therefore I own both a Hermes and a Mogul/Titan. There are a couple of modest tweaks that were made to the Titan's design, but for the most part you'll see at least equivalent performance out of a Hermes.
If you've got cash to spend, I suggest hanging onto it and waiting a couple of months. The successor to Hermes, HTC Kaiser, is looming on the horizon and it offers a host of improvements over the Hermes (and the Mogul as well, for that matter -- though again, they're not direct competitors). If you live in the U.S., you'd be best-served by eBaying an AT&T/Cingular-branded Hermes (branded as the "8525") and running pof's free SIM unlocker to use it with your T-Mobile account. This is exactly what I did to use my Hermes with my T-Mobile account. I paid $400 even for a brand new Cingular-branded Hermes about six months ago, and I imagine that you could do even better today if you're savvy with eBay or through HoFo's buy/sell/trade forum. What kind of "pretty good deal" did you find on the Mogul, anyway? By all accounts, it should cost more than the Hermes.
You would be well-served by reading the wiki.

Actually, the Tytn or Kaiser would be the closest match for GSM (both can be used if unlocked with a T-mob sim card).
The Mogul (titan) works on different networks, with different protocols using different frequencies... there is no SIM card, and there is absolutely NO way in which the phone can even recognize a T-mobile tower!
Its like trying to activate one of those V-tech landline cordless phones with T-mobile... Both operate as phones, but there are just some things that are too different to ever be compatible!

if i was you zach , i would wait about 2 months for the cingular 8925 (htc tytn II) then unlock that phone and use it for t-mobile.
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733

wow..... lol

heyitisdavis said:
if i was you zach , i would wait about 2 months for the cingular 8925 (htc tytn II) then unlock that phone and use it for t-mobile.
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733
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+1...I agree...wait.

if I were to stay with GSM I would have stay the hell away from WinMo device and go with Nokia or SE--cause you know their BT works!

lettcco said:
if I were to stay with GSM I would have stay the hell away from WinMo device and go with Nokia or SE--cause you know their BT works!
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why do you even post in forums like this?
For your info, winMo devices always had hella good BT- its only the mogul that's had this new problem, and its due to a software glitch with the new chipset that it uses.
Nokias and SE's are no more reliable... I had many many BT problems with my Nokia 6230 that was only fixed months later with a software update. I also had some of the older SE phones, and they worked pretty well but had awful range.
I was very happily using WinMobile on GSM, and wouldn't recommend anything else over it!

keishou said:
Sprint = CDMA... TMo = GSM... good luck!
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THERE'S ALSO CDMA = EvDO (FAST) AND GSM = GPRS/EDGE (SUPER-SLOW)

New Sprint Version of the HTC Touch, Release in about 2 months

New Sprint Version of the HTC Touch, but its called the HTC Vogue. Pretty much identical to the HTC Touch, but its on a CDMA network.
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=803

The only thing identical to the Touch is the way it looks.
It has a 400MHz cpu (compared to only 200MHz on the touch), 3G (EDGE only in the Touch), 256Mb ram (compared to only 128) and according to the site linked to; it'll have GPS.
This thing is everything the Touch isn't.

well, it supposedly will have the touchFLO thing, which is cool and what makes the touch the, um, touch!

the title is a tad missleading this is just an unlocked HTC for the CDMA network im pretty sure it will have Touch on it but sprint wont be releasing it within 2 months or it would have been leaked before. that and sprint just brought out the mogul and sprint isnt exactly the type of company to bring out 2 new pocket pc's so close together in the year.

felixm477 said:
the title is a tad missleading this is just an unlocked HTC for the CDMA network im pretty sure it will have Touch on it but sprint wont be releasing it within 2 months or it would have been leaked before. that and sprint just brought out the mogul and sprint isnt exactly the type of company to bring out 2 new pocket pc's so close together in the year.
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http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...p-rumor-centro-touch-and-pearl-8130/#comments

felixm477 said:
the title is a tad missleading this is just an unlocked HTC for the CDMA network im pretty sure it will have Touch on it but sprint wont be releasing it within 2 months or it would have been leaked before. that and sprint just brought out the mogul and sprint isnt exactly the type of company to bring out 2 new pocket pc's so close together in the year.
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Wrong, its the Touch by HTC and it will be out soon, heyitsdavis is right

Lonely...

Oh so lonely...
There is nobody...
Who owns this phone...

DeathJester said:
Oh so lonely...
There is nobody...
Who owns this phone...
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Where does CDMA stand for?

Code division multiple access
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDMA

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=learn+to+search

tomtommy306 said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=learn+to+search
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Bloody hilarious, mate

Is the newly leaked VZW xv6975 classified as a Topaz even though it's got a bigger screen than the Touch Diamond 2 sold outside the US?
If so, it shouldn't be lonely here much longer.

mikegno said:
Is the newly leaked VZW xv6975 classified as a Topaz even though it's got a bigger screen than the Touch Diamond 2 sold outside the US?
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Good question.
I am looking for answers too.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561963

brent372 said:
Good question.
I am looking for answers too.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561963
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If you're looking for answers.... Try HERE<-----CLICK THE LINK.....TONS OF TOPAZ CDMA INFO!!!

I know sprint had the diamond are they gonna get this one 2? not that it matters cuz i left sprint just i am just wondering

Thanks tom, but that doesn't really provide the answers...

brent372 said:
Thanks tom, but that doesn't really provide the answers...
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But google is the best place to start.... There aren't many topaz cdma users, so you must search the web to find content. I have looked for you guys to no avail.... There just aren't enough people using it yet.

Google.. yeah.. been there, done that..

I could also be the Leo.. seen here

Really it's Whitestone
Actually, it looks like Verizon will be using HTC's Whitestone platform in lieu of Topaz (http://www.wmexperts.com/verizon-imagio-whitestone-rumored-oct-6). It's been rumored that Sprint will be using Whitesone to replace the Diamond instead of Topaz.

Yes, we know that.. but we are tyrinig to figure out what the Whitestone actually is.
Is it a platform unto itself? is it a Blackstone? is it a Leo?

I think Whitestone is a code name for CDMA version of the Topaz. And the only reason it didn't get the Topaz name is because it actually has a bigger screen....so it needed a new coded name.

galfert said:
I think Whitestone is a code name for CDMA version of the Topaz. And the only reason it didn't get the Topaz name is because it actually has a bigger screen....so it needed a new coded name.
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Isn't it called HTC Warhawk?

ArtieQ said:
Isn't it called HTC Warhawk?
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No...Warhawk is AT&T's code name for their US GSM Diamond 2 which will carry the name Pure when it is released. And Fortress is AT&T's code name for thier US GSM Touch Pro 2 which will carry the name Tilt2 whe it is released.
I know this is all very confusing especially when different phones that appear similar actually have different code names. But some of them are really just derived variations of an original other model.
So in essence a Topaz is a Diamond 2 (we all know this)...but a Whitestone is just a CDMA version of the Topaz with a larger screen. And a Warhawk is a Topaz or Diamond 2 with US GSM bands (and international bands) for AT&T.
I guess because the Whitestone actually represents a considerable differentiation in screen size from the original Topaz is why it deserved to have its own separate code name hence Whitestone instead of also being a Topaz. But now that we realize this I think it is okay to sort of consider the Whitestone as a mutated Topaz instead of a completely different generation device.
Recap: CDMA Topaz = CDMA Diamond 2 = Whitestone = Imagio

galfert said:
So in essence a Topaz is a Diamond 2 (we all know this)...but a Whitestone is just a CDMA version of the Topaz with a larger screen. And a Warhawk is a Topaz or Diamond 2 with US GSM bands (and international bands) for AT&T.
I guess because the Whitestone actually represents a considerable differentiation in screen size from the original Topaz is why it deserved to have its own separate code name hence Whitestone instead of also being a Topaz. But now that we realize this I think it is okay to sort of consider the Whitestone as a mutated Topaz instead of a completely different generation device.
Recap: CDMA Topaz = CDMA Diamond 2 = Whitestone = Imagio
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Ok... two more questions just to clarify... 1. Will the GSM version of the Topaz (Warkhawk) for AT&T have the same size screen of the Whitestone? 2. Will AT&T's version also support MediaFLO and have a similar kick-stand antenna like the Verizon Whitestone (Imagio)?
EDIT: Another question 3. Given that the Imagio is also a US Quad-band GSM phone, if it were unlocked, would I be able to use it with AT&T's wireless network and still somehow get the V-Cast service using MediaFLO?
See youtube videos of the Verizon Imagio below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHvihCUXqIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6awsDeRVM_0&feature=player_embedded#

tamanaco said:
Ok... two more questions just to clarify... 1. Will the GSM version of the Topaz (Warkhawk) for AT&T have the same size screen of the Whitestone? 2. Will AT&T's version also support MediaFLO and have a similar kick-stand antenna like the Verizon Whitestone (Imagio)?
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The AT&T Pure (Warhawk) will have a 3.2 inch screen
I'm not sure (I haven't read it anywhere) if MediaFLO will be included. My bet is that it doesn't. And according to the leaked picture today on WMexperts I don't see a kickstand so perhaps the answer is no antenna and no MediaFLO. I suggest investing in a Slingbox instead of paying for MediaFLO.
See pictures here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/att-pure-real-live-and-flesh
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EDIT: Another question 3. Given that the Imagio is also a US Quad-band GSM phone, if it were unlocked, would I be able to use it with AT&T's wireless network and still somehow get the V-Cast service using MediaFLO?
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If you can figure a way to unlock it ...which I suspect someone will eventually figure out...then yes it will be able to be used on AT&T's network. But it may be limited to just EDGE and no 3G on AT&T (not saying for sure it won't work on AT&T 3G...just speculating). And as for getting MediaFLO service this will depend on changing the software possibly on the phone to allow you to get a MediaFLO account through AT&T with the software that Verizon puts on it for MediaFLO...both AT&T MediaFLO and Verizon MediaFLO software may or may not be compatible.
Not sure if I answered more questions than I left unanswered but I see where your thinking is taking you...but I still recommend the Slingbox approach and forget the MediaFLO. Perhaps when we start seeing ATSC-M/H finally come out we can have devices with free TV reception.
EDIT: Acually looking at the leaked AT&T Pure picture again more carefully I do see a kickstand !!!! It is hard to see because the kickstand is black but it is there seen very faintly in the picture. So perhaps it is an antenna and does have MediaFLO capability!

cheap HTC Vogue

I want to buy a cheap vogue to flash it with android
but there are a lot of names for this phone, also there are clones(s1).
Can you help me with this?
thanks

only other name for the vogue I know of is the 'HTC touch'

yep he's right and i think the different between the 2.
is vogues are CDMA and touch are GSM.
or something like that.

n1co35 said:
yep he's right and i think the different between the 2.
is vogues are CDMA and touch are GSM.
or something like that.
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My HTC Touch is CDMA and is labeled as a Touch through Bell, and Rogers GSM Touch is also labeled Touch. I believe the vogue moniker has not been used in any marketing at all and remains an inhouse code name given to it by HTC before official release.
The code name for the GSM version is the Elf and the code name for the CDMA version is Vogue. However, under all carriers, "Touch" is used as the phone name.
This can be confusing when trying to buy one online. You have to be careful and look at the bands the radio supports to make sure you get the right one for your carrier.

Verizon XV6900

skydirt said:
My HTC Touch is CDMA and is labeled as a Touch through Bell, and Rogers GSM Touch is also labeled Touch. I believe the vogue moniker has not been used in any marketing at all and remains an inhouse code name given to it by HTC before official release.
The code name for the GSM version is the Elf and the code name for the CDMA version is Vogue. However, under all carriers, "Touch" is used as the phone name.
This can be confusing when trying to buy one online. You have to be careful and look at the bands the radio supports to make sure you get the right one for your carrier.
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skydirt is correct. when buying, you usually have to marry HTC Touch with the carrier the person says it is for. i.e. HTC Touch Sprint is the vogue aka sprint 6900, HTC Touch Verizon is the elf aka xv6900.

tatnai said:
skydirt is correct. when buying, you usually have to marry HTC Touch with the carrier the person says it is for. i.e. HTC Touch Sprint is the vogue aka sprint 6900, HTC Touch Verizon is the elf aka xv6900.
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verizon is CDMA.. therefore a vogue not an elf..

br125 said:
verizon is CDMA.. therefore a vogue not an elf..
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stand corrected, the gsm touch is the elf. verizon and sprint touch are the vogue. brain fart.