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Athena dead or dying........any miracle workers out there?

Background:
I have had MANY PPC's (so many I can't even count them) and I've loaded many different cooked ROMS and such on most of them so I'm not a complete noob on these things (don't claim to be an expert either).
However, my most recent acquisition is an HTC Advantage bought at CompUSA. I've read most of these came with a test ROM and mine was no different except for the fact that when I attempted to update the ROM to the "official" one provided to me by HTC it would not work. I always got the error "Connection lost" about half way through the process. I tried it numerous times and it never worked. On some occasions it would get stuck on the bootloader screen but I was able to get it back to working status (still on the test ROM).
I decided to try installing step 1 of Ollipro's SPL to see if that would help loading the HTC ROM. Turns out that wouldn't work either. It would get stuck at step 1 where it would ask if "PPC gone idle and didn't work or to wait 30 seconds". Tried it many times and would try to get it to keep going but the grey box on the bottom left would say the "parameters were incorrect" and would give me the option to quit, which I would. No problem, at least my 7501 was still working.
After that I tried the official HTC ROM again and I got the same "connection lost" error I had previously, except this time I didn't get anything on my PPC screen, just a black screen, not even the battery charging light behind the joystick lights up anymore. Soft reset...........nothing. Bootloader reset....................nothing. Hard reset.......................nothing. No lights, nada. The only flicker I get is if I try a reset wheen the power cord is connected. A red light flickers behind the joystick whenever I click the reset button. Any ideas or any help?

Sounds to me like the battery is just dead. I bought one at CompUSA (had the test ROM also) and I got the red ring around the joystick too when I tried to turn it on in the store. I left it plugged in awhile and it finally booted up okay. I then replaced the test ROM with the one and only available for the X7501 on HTC USA's web site. Good luck and I hope you get it working!

I think it could be battery related as well but it had a full charge when this happened. For some reason the unit has lost communication with the battery. I'm at a loss.

I got the same problem like you man !!! but i bad luck and so stupid man , i did with HTC X7501 then it dead after that i bought the X7500 then did it again , holy "... " it dead again....man ...So how your phone now bro ????

I left out the battery a half day and tried it again but still dead. Then I left it charging overnight and tried it again but still dead.
I can't believe this. I've never had a bricked device that can't be revived but after so many have seen this post and still no solutions I'm guessing it's no hope.

I met the same situation when I started to unlock Athena ( TMobile Ameo) within not fully charged battery ( less then 70%).
Solution ( try to make BL mode) with connected wallsocket charger ( not connected to PC USB slot) or find 100% charged battery. It helped me two times.
After many tries it changed to BL mode .
Now I didn't start unlock/change ROM without 100% charged battery.

I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please

Lobstrick said:
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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"heating battery" (i.e. discharging when inserted, you mean?), no charge led = dead bootloader indeed.

I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?

Hearing these stories makes me nervous. I'm on the stock ROM (mine came from CompUSA with the latest ROM and I don't have an urge to try the cooked ROM yet). I've been using my Athena daily for 4 months, it charges correctly from several different chargers I have (car, computer USB, stock wall charger, aftermarket wall charger).
However, one day 2 weeks ago I went to make a call in the middle of the day and my Athena was dead. D-e-a-d. Usually I can make it back home at night and still have 90-100% on the battery meter, so with no use in the middle of the day and a dead battery, this was weird. It wouldn't turn on, no soft boot, took the battery out and put it back in, and always got nothing.
I bring this up here because when I plugged it in, I encountered similar problems that others here are describing. It wouldn't turn on, and it didn't give me the orange charging light behind the joystick. I ended up leaving it plugged in for a while and finally I got a red ring, not the usual orange. I've only seen red when the battery was almost dead and the unit was on. Then after some more time the ring turned orange and at this point it would turn on again. I still have no idea why my battery died so fast and hard.
So, is there a problem with the battery charging system that is starting to crop up in units that have been used a while???

miha_conan said:
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
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Hi i am no expert but i had simaler problem no display or no lights round ring no responce to any commands (ie hard reset and bootloader ) only red light flickred on reset button all i did was removed battery while pressing reset button and placed new battery and left it on wall charger for couple of hours and before doing hard reset i pressed reset button 2 to 3 times and green light round the battery came up so i tryed bootloader and it worked and insted of flashing it with pc i just loaded the img in sd card and flashed it while whole thing was on charge (i had tmob test rom before ) which i think is best way to do no hassle of losing connection or failing in half way and it works like a charm
hope this helps
and ya if you have a spare battery it dose help

New battery?
I'm a wizard user (and lots of former PDAs) looking to buy and Athena, maybe.
Has anyone tried a new, right out of the envelope, battery? these issues sound like worn out Li-Ion batteries to me. I've had them completely conk (won't take a charge at all) if I let them go completely down, and I've had them wear out and stop taking a full charge (down to maxing out at about %20, but sometimes showing %100 depending on ROM status) when I kept charging them while they're already charged.
Li-Ion batts don't sit for long periods too well, either, so if they're sitting on the shelf at the store/warehouse, they may be suffering even more than one that has been used since earlier in its childhood.
Perhaps the answer is a switched charger that stops charging when the battery (not the ROM/unit reading) gets to %100. ???
I didn't see anything like this posted. I'm terribly curious to see if anyone can resolve it.

nother AMEO dead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1859021#post1859021

Red ring comes for a sec only try to RESET the device with Charger connected
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same here,
i am afraid i got a dead athena too, did you guys found any solution?? i tried switching batteries. this is my first experience with a windows mobile device not powering on, in inrepairable condition.
found another member with similar problems- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1639311&postcount=24

No genius,s on here,just insults
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND

Battery or device dead? Any chance for my G4?

Hi guys!
I had some hardware related problems last week with my wizard (G3). I sent it to vodafone and got a new device. The new device is a G4-Model, so I vistited the Wizard G4 forum to check out how to flash new roms to G4 models.
I flashed my wizard with the shelltool and got some problems while upgrading. My taskmanager said that shelltool doesn't respond anymore. I waited one hour and took the phone off the usb-cable, hard-reset the phone and everything was working fine (thought so).
After the setup i noticed that the battery was pretty low. I think it was about 7% or something like that. I put my wizard on charge via the usb-cable. I took it off the cable when the battery showed 27% because I wanted to go out.
After being away from home for 15 minutes the battery was down to 12%. I think about 15 minutes later the device was off - completely.
When I was back home at night, I put the wizard on the wall charger and went to bed.
This morning I noticed that the RED LED was constantly on... I was surprised that the led wasn't green, because normally it should be green after 5 hours of charging. I tried to turn my device on - nothing!
SteRo tells in this thread what to do, when the battery wont charge anymore. I tried it and this and till now it didn't work. I'm trying this at the moment one more time.
Is anyone out there who had the same problem or has an idea what happened and what i can do right now?
Please xda, help me!
Vi
EDIT: unimportant
What a beautiful day I tried the "direct" charge method from SteRo again and this time it worked! My wizard booted up normal and the orange LED started to shine
XDA - I LOVE YOU
Have a nice weekend!
EDIT2:
What a ****in day -.-'
Just checked my wizard for the charge status... guess what? it's off!
I have no idea what's going on... Please help me!

I trhink I would send that one back too since they just sent it to you. It's probably just a faulty battery though.

I had this thought too, but the problem is, that I have a WM6 rom on the device and I think that I've no chance to get back to a wm5 rom. Would you send it back immediately or qould you ask for help in a provider shop?
Thanks, Vi

HTC touch 3g died!!!

Hi,
I am an owner of a HTC Touch 3g bought very recently. The device is in excellent condition and I did not have any trouble with it so far.
However, today when I was pressing the power button to deactivate the screen the reaction of the device was lagged by 4-5 sec. At some time I decided to reboot the device to solve the problem but since then...the device is DEAD, which means that does not start nor when I charge it reacts (light does not turn on).
Tried to have a hard reset but nothing happened.
Any ideas?????

remove the battery and any card(sim...µsd), then press the power button for a couple of seconds. reinsert the battery and connect to the charger, leave it there for a while.
i've had a similar issue with my walkman, when the battery was drained, and i mean REALLY drained, nothing would happen, not even when plugging into the charger. i had to wait about 10-15 minutes until the device showed life again

Tried that but didnt work.
The battery is charged, I charged it fully yesterday 4-5 hours before the incident.
Any new ideas? Thanks anyway...

Send it back where you bought it of course. What else?

Greetings from Portugal!
Same thing happened with my touch 3g, out of nowhere it hanged up this morning and when trying to turn it on again it quickly turned off by itself, and again on almost immediatly, this went on forever! Tried a hard reset and left the battery out for a few hours, but no results... oh well, back to the store and let's see what they say.
Just went last night back to the store, lucky for me they changed it for a brand new one instead of sending it to HTC Portugal for reparation (here in Portugal we have a 30 days return/exchange product policy in case of malfunction).
Best regards

reset button
have you tryed pressing the reset button located by where the memory card gose in ????

Prophet won't power on.

Hi i have a problem. Yesterday my Prophet battery goes to 0%, when i back to the home I plug-in it to charger. The light-emitting diode start flashing, but i can't turn on my phone. After 8 hours connected to charger Prophet still won't work. DO you have any idea? Maybe this is battery problem?
PS. Sorry for my poor english.

same with me,my dopod 818 pro won't turn on after 2 month not use,i try to charge,but the led not light..its off..i have no idea witn this problem,please help me to solve.thanks

Same problem with my Prophet.
After 3 month of no use wont charge and wont go on, no light of chargin nothing.
Is the orange light on when it is plugged into power without battery???
Any one solve this problem????
Thank you
UPDATE
I open the battery and fill it with 3,5V directly on battery inner contacts for few minutes
( directly on battery contacts red + and black - and I control it with multimeter to see how the voltage rising up. )
After aprox 3 minutes I try to power it up.
AND IT WORKS!
I put it on charge and the orange light went on and strat charging the battery. The phone now works.
So it is the battery issue. ( Last night I put it on power over the night and nothing no charge at all, what a stupid system )

errhec said:
Same problem with my Prophet.
After 3 month of no use wont charge and wont go on, no light of chargin nothing.
Is the orange light on when it is plugged into power without battery???
Any one solve this problem????
Thank you
UPDATE
I open the battery and fill it with 3,5V directly on battery inner contacts for few minutes
( directly on battery contacts red + and black - and I control it with multimeter to see how the voltage rising up. )
After aprox 3 minutes I try to power it up.
AND IT WORKS!
I put it on charge and the orange light went on and strat charging the battery. The phone now works.
So it is the battery issue. ( Last night I put it on power over the night and nothing no charge at all, what a stupid system )
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Oh.. great! do you know which pin of the battery is (+) and which pin is (-) pole? I want to charge the battery by a balance charger.

happened to me couple months ago
and i used desktop charger for 5 minutes directly on the battery
then plug it in and charged normally with usb connector
used the desktop charger on the first and last pins on the battery

Hello, i'm sorry, my english is bad. but i wanna help.
Now, before 1 week i have the same problem, my qtek s200 after update whit wm6.1. OK 1 month everything was ok, but after that /i don't now where i go wrong but no matter/ that my phone start stuck in bootloader. I let it one night on to see, maybe will turn,and at the morning he wont start, even the light wont start wen i put the carger on. I take one charger/from sony erricson/ cut cable, there are 2 cables, take off the battery of my pda, put directly cables from sony charger in to battery, black is minus, red is plus, but don't worry, there is no problem if you make mistake.Let it like that 1-2 hours, put battery back on pda and everything will be OK.Now in my case my ROM fu** up, i go to tree color screen/see more info how to do that/ and replace the ROM.and next time do not full dry the battery.Hope i help.

Wizard not turning on. Doesn't boot.

Hello, a while back I posted a charging problem, which turned out to be the Mini-USB and Wall Charger was bent, and before that, the Mini USB outlet in the phone broke entirely. Well, another problem has arisen, as finally got a new charger yesterday, and worked perfectly. So, I shut it off, and left it to charge overnight. Now, the problem? All of a sudden, it refuses to boot. Held down the power button for 5 seconds, 20 seconds, and a full minute. Nothing. Any suggestions?
~Infinity

nothing AT ALL? or the screen turns on and gets stuck?
if nothing at all happens, try the battery jump start method

Well, after constant trying at starting the phone, I managed to have it boot after hours. What happened? During the boot,where it displays Windows Mobile 6, a line appeared, and the phone darkened, and then crashed.
What the hell.

I suggest a hard reset......

BASSMANBOB said:
I suggest a hard reset......
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....................And how can I hard reset when it doesn't boot, and whenever it does, crashes during it?

Anyone that's here help?

I'm currently having the same problem with mine. Hard resetting didn't work for me but you may as well try it.
If you can get it to start booting for just a few seconds you can hard reset it without loading the operating system. As soon as you get it to turn on, hold down the Wifi and Voice command buttons (one's on the left, one on the right). After holding those down, press the soft reset button (the little button on the right that you can press with your stylus) very quickly and release it. If you hold the soft reset button too long, it will perform a regular soft reset and you'll have to start over, so do that quickly.
A black screen should come up and tell you to press your send button to hard reset your phone.

I have similar problem,It's turn on to the logo that's always shown when boot and then it show the logo till it discharged.I tried hard reset,but it's still the same,i post 2 topic's in this website and no one help me

i too am facing the same problem, i was able to start it a few times but it crashed after a few seconds each time. i m gonna charge it all night and see if it starts. right now all i m getting is the red led. i really hope someone finds a solution soon.

With me it was my battery that caused the problem. Try it with the battery of another wizard. Succes, Rietje

ok so i charged it for more than 12 hours and my wizadr still didnt start.
I then got a NEW BATTERY and my wizard turned on within the very moment i pressed the power button.
So any one who is facing a similar problem should try a new battery.

Yea,this is a second time when i have this problem.I both A new battery,BUT IT STILL THE SAME!!!
First time when i both a new battery it was working fine,but now the battery won't help

Infinity M said:
Well, after constant trying at starting the phone, I managed to have it boot after hours. What happened? During the boot,where it displays Windows Mobile 6, a line appeared, and the phone darkened, and then crashed.
What the hell.
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faced a similar problem a while back. i replaced the battery and the phone was back to normal

someoneee said:
Yea,this is a second time when i have this problem.I both A new battery,BUT IT STILL THE SAME!!!
First time when i both a new battery it was working fine,but now the battery won't help
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try a battery frm a friends phone. u ll be sure that the battery u r using works fine. if ur phone still doesnt work then u need to have it checked.

i have same problem,,and i use T-Mobile MDA Vario
is it just battery problem or not?and if the PDA inactive it can still charge or not?
and i usually use blackberry charger to charge my PDA,is it ok?and is there any possibility my PDA can't work again?i hope not
pls help me..

Well for starters, charging your phone overnight will probably damage the battery over time. It's only the newer phones and batteries that are able to withstand extended overcharging times without serious damage to the battery. With older phones including the K-JAM/MDA Vario, the battery is meant to be charged till its full, and no more. If you overcharge it, you run the risk of damaging your battery and possibly the phone too.
If a new battery hasn't fixed your problem, the problem lies in your phone's mainboard.
Try charging your phone from a USB port on a computer to see if anything happens.