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Is this Windows Mobile 7?

I found this news on wmpoweruser.com.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3820
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I really doubt that is Windows 7 (unrelated : isn't it weird how the desktop version and the mobile version now have the same name? )
And after reading the comments on the other thread I seriously doubt that wm7 will be released this year:
1) they're still working on wm6.5
2) releasing wm7 so close after wm6.5 would be ummm....counterproductive?
Until we find something on the internet really identifying it as WM7, I'm a skeptic.

microsoft has already said that wm7 wont be out till next year (prob march/april) its only developers that get it in november i think

Yes, actually that does look like WM7. A while ago a large number of concept screen shots came out. The credibility of those screen shot and the story behind it could be debated. But IMO sure evidence came in the form that in a MS live mesh commercial there was a brief shot of an HTC touch running the exact UI that was leaked. This looks like that interface with a few tweaks/improvements. I am trying to find that original story.
*edit* not the story I was talking about but all the shots were like this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blinx_182/3265548956/
*edit 2*
The first two pics are from the live mesh commercial. Note, WM7 is not really running on his device. They are screen shots. I was fooled at first. lol.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blinx_182/

Here it is. The full story. Not the original site I saw it on but looks like the same pictures and text.
http://www.zakeh.com/2008/01/07/windows-mobile-7-details-leak-cool/
That UI was found on a WM device in a MS commercial. Evidence enough to me that at least at some point this is the direction MS was going. And I like it.

I think wm7 will change alot over the next year as they get feedback and see what every one else does.
This might be early code but still about 6 months till developers get it then another 5 months of changing as they get feedback from developer

My guess is no. Hell no.

It looks a bit crap, not to mention VGA (why would MS be developing a 2010 mobile OS in VGA?). I'm very sceptical.

More screenshots
Zune software on WM7??
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3870

Lokatho said:
Zune software on WM7??
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3870
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Zune was supposed to be in 6.5. They skimped on us.

[Android in C#] possibly faster than ever

I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this: http://blog.xamarin.com/2012/05/01/android-in-c-sharp/
It seems a company called Xamarin has ported the entire Android code from Java to C#, making it much much faster
Here is a test showing this difference:
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I think it would be amazing to see this port in action on the HD2
the source of this project is freely available here: https://github.com/xamarin/XobotOS

nice find!
now if there would be anybody here really interested in porting this in our aging HD2 - well that would be great!
& here's mono for Andy
http://xamarin.com/monoforandroid

bever86 said:
I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this: http://blog.xamarin.com/2012/05/01/android-in-c-sharp/
It seems a company called Xamarin has ported the entire Android code from Java to C#, making it much much faster
Here is a test showing this difference:
I think it would be amazing to see this port in action on the HD2
the source of this project is freely available here: https://github.com/xamarin/XobotOS
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mengfei said:
nice find!
now if there would be anybody here really interested in porting this in our aging HD2 - well that would be great!
& here's mono for Andy
http://xamarin.com/monoforandroid
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Hmm, this looks pretty awesome and makes TOTALL sense as to why it runs faster. I use to program in C# for windows mobile and windows 7 using .net framework. I LOVED IT. i hate programming in Java for android. Seeing C# code again would warm my heart
Only thing i m worried about, is google will most likely pull something out of their butt claiming it illegal to port their source code over to another language. I can just feel it. Its gonna be a money battle. But hopefully they can come to a trouce and run everything via C#.

^ so will you do a port for us, just for educational purposes

mengfei said:
^ so will you do a port for us, just for educational purposes
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Well after reading the links posted, its not actually a port, its completely revamped code. What they did essentially is translated it, just as one would translate English to Spanish or any other speaking language. They just translated Java to C#
I downloaded the setup from MONO however my internet sucks so i kept getting download fails. so im in a local hotel and i'll try it on their WiFi considering its like 20Mbps it should be fine but i'll look into it. Im not sure how to actually put it on the phone but that will come with research. and yes its for educational purposes AND i want this too
Now one thing i couldnt find/figure out is things like android market apps, will those need to be converted to C# as well? (I think i remember reading something about this in the link, i believe android apps are run in an emulator, and C# apps written in Visual Studio <3 will be run directly. I'll have to look into it more. But i'm workin on a project already now so it will have to be later sorry :/

I am more than willing to work with people to see if it is possible to get this working on the HD2.
However I am only a novice programmer with only very little knowledge of C#
I'm not sure how the legal issues would be on this.. Android is opensource to some degree but I don't know much about that stuff
It would be so awesome to have this power our HD2's to the max .. though market apps would be a problem..

Ubuntu for phones announcement

Today, Cannonical has announcement a version Ubuntu for phones. They can found more info here: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
The requesites are very similar to HD2. Will be posible portable to it?

hope so...
Sorry for my bad English. I just reading that link. Some of my friend say that the Ubuntu OS is base on Android Kernel so we totally can port it to our HD2 but the rom running on Galaxy Nexus just a demo rom that mean the need a lot of time to config. Ubuntu OS is currently in the development stage and finishing, according to the source before we have to wait until 2014. I think that time is too long for our HD2.

^
well you never can say, there are a lot of Dev's here that are even miles ahead of those manufacturers/ phone companies, all we have to do is wait & see.
I also noticed just yesterday in one 2nd hand site here in HK all the HD'2 where sold & at least 10 more people where looking for one.
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Of course!
FranZeta said:
Today, Cannonical has announcement a version Ubuntu for phones. They can found more info here: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
The requesites are very similar to HD2. Will be posible portable to it?
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I'm a NAND user on a LEO1024. Since Ubuntu phone will support android kernels and the drivers it will be quite simple to get the required files from tytung's repo and merge it into the OS.
As soon as it's released or leaked there will be a race for "FIRST"

servergod said:
As soon as it's released or leaked there will be a race for "FIRST"
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I assure you there will not be and if you want it, you will have probably to do it yourself. It's not android, nobody wants that... yet.

Challenge accepted!
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I assure you there will not be and if you want it, you will have probably to do it yourself. It's not android, nobody wants that... yet.
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To be the first would be awesome. I'm ready for it

i am waiting for that
please release it fo hd2

A very interesting project! My HD2 is looking forward!
I think it will be fun.

would be good as an excercise, i suppose. as long as the support is there.
why would it be better than android?
in my experience with ubuntu on my laptop, anything i try to do always seems end up typing long lines of code in a terminal window
as someone once said "linux is free if your time is worthless"

been developing with the new SDK & its a freakin beast ! .....i eat ...sleep ...poop ..Ubuntu ...its so much fun
Ubuntu Phone OS is going to rule ....its just so awesome !

Visual Exploration ... Suru is born

So Guys ans Girls,
Let start the Visual Thread about Ubuntu Touch OS
drop your thoughts, your fear and your wishes about the Touch OS visual Experience
To start, here is a pic for the Exploration, the pic come from the Touch OS designer
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Visual
Very good visual, cant wait to see it running on my device. :good:

And this Visual Design has a name : Suru ! welcome Suru
but let have a deep look, the phone picture is not the Galaxy Nexus as it used to be.
A hint to the new Hardware ?

Hardware
Maybe the Ubuntu phone to be released in autumn.

looks really great, calendar is a bit weird but whatever
i dont know why but that device looks like a Huawei to me

the os looks great, hopefully it performs well and gets the attention it deserves. though, in this market, that really depends on how many developers embrace the os and get the apps developed so it at least has a chance to succeed. allowing ios and android to get so big really causes problems for any newcomers due to the fact that there are already thousands of apps for both platforms which are now relatively stable, bug-free and full of features, and no one nowadays wants a phone which doesn't have stable, fast apps for everything they want to do.
i think the ubuntu devs definitely got the design right, tho -- the design reminds me of something you'd see in android, but with a lot of the...ideas and practicality that lay behind windows phone, which imo is a better platform than either ios or android for a phone but unfortunately doesn't have the community and therefore the developers/apps to compete.
would definitely be great to see this platform take off so we have another big competitor in the mix!

ryde_razr said:
And this Visual Design has a name : Suru ! welcome Suru
but let have a deep look, the phone picture is not the Galaxy Nexus as it used to be.
A hint to the new Hardware ?
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Don't get your hopes up. The pictures above are nothing more than digital concepts, it's just an artist's impression of what a "new" ubuntu-related generic smartphone would look like.

[PROJECT] Writing proper emulators for Android

Hey guys, I know you've seen a lot of some emulators on the Play store, for all kind of old-school consoles, NES, SNES, N64... Most of them are released under GPL license, so yes, they are open source. Sadly, the UI design doesn't match with Android's holo (4.0+) style. So, my proposal is simple. Let's develop a couple of free, open source emulators, from XDA members, with a proper UI (I can help with that, I've written a couple of modern looking apps: LockIt, wRotatr, Halo)))). My weak point is JNI. I hate it. Period. I will need a lot of help to get the emulators buiding, but after I get them, you will see a lot of UX/UI improvements.
Sources can be found here. I'd like to start with Nesoid. So, is anybody here, expert on JNI development, willing to help me on this? :good:
Cheers,
D4.

Bumping this, I have archieved some UI fixes. Still not able to build native libraries.
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The sad news is that I dropped android < 4.0.3 support

Any news on your progress?

Shadow-Nexus said:
Any news on your progress?
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I haven't been able to build native libraries yet. Without that there's no emulation

How's the emulation overhaul coming along? Seems like a great project
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worhello said:
How's the emulation overhaul coming along? Seems like a great project
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I'm trying another UI attempt, but it's not yet working (emulation still broken, I haven't found anyone to help me with JNI)

Abandoned