So this may be a silly question, but I've just received the T-Mobile MDA (HTC Wizard) second-hand and without a charger.
The Mini USB port on the bottom allows ActiveSync and charging from my notebook's USB port, but when I try to charge using an AC-to-USB adapter it doesn't work... I've tried two different Motorola phone chargers and a generic one that came with my Jawbone that has a USB female connector on the adapter and you supply your own USB cable. I've used the same cable I was using when attaching to the PC, but no luck.
Interestingly enough, I did get it to charge with the same USB cable once at an airport by plugging it into the Southwest Airlines chairs with the USB power plugs...
So does anyone know? Does this phone require a special sort of charger?
you need a charger that is rated 1.0Amps.
usb is normally 500mAmps, not enough to charge your phone.
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I am in the UK and looking for a two pin euro charger for my phone - if it is packaged with a 12v charger or any other kit i dont really mind, as I could do with an extra car one.
Alternately - I have a 'plug' for a UK socket that instead of having a cable on it has a socket like a car charger at the back, so I can use it with a car charger for any new mobile I get so I have a second mains charger - is there a euro-two pin plg equivalent of this?
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Any USB charger (there are many varieties) should work fine, so you just have to find a Euro-plugged USB charger then stick the USB cable into the charger.
For example, I have the iPod USB charger with swappable front plugs, which charge my Wizard, Sony Ericsson phone and the iPod.
Exactly, but it is finding a two pin one that is the problem.
Try Expansys. They usually have a wide variety of weird and random plug combinations so you might be lucky there.
alternatively - a bit uglier - get a travel plug converter (just the plug converter, not the big transformers). The charger that came in the box is rated for 100V-240V and ~50Hz-~60Hz - so it'll work in EU, USA, UK, JP - as long as I bring the plug converter so that it'll physically fit
Here.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5818157604&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
£5.99 plus postage. Uses the standard usb cable that came with the device.
I've bought a few things from them - good quality.
pewe said:
Here.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5818157604&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
£5.99 plus postage. Uses the standard usb cable that came with the device.
I've bought a few things from them - good quality.
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By default, the standard USB sync cable will not charge from a cigarette lighter / mains adaptor USB socket, it will only charge via a computer.
If you want to modify the cable so it will charge from a cigarette lighter etc, you need to short pins 4 and 5 of the mini USB end. Do a google search for a diagram etc. Once modified the cable will no longer work as a sync cable.
Richard
By default, the standard USB sync cable will not charge from a cigarette lighter / mains adaptor USB socket
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I am puzzled. I understand what you are saying about the connections, but what puzzles me is I have a GPS receiver that I bought which came with a flexible USB charger and had a cigarette adapter and mains adapter (both US and UK) in the box.
I bought a cradle for my Vario (complete with usb sync cable) so don't need the the usb sync cable supplied with the Vario in the office. So I use it in the car with the USB Cigarette adapter that came with the GPS unit and it charges the Vario in the car with no problem.
I haven't tried it with the USB mains adapter yet, but having seen the above reply will try it tomorrow, but I'm sure it will work because its the cable that should prevent it.
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By default, the standard USB sync cable will not charge from a cigarette lighter / mains adaptor USB socket, it will only charge via a computer.
If you want to modify the cable so it will charge from a cigarette lighter etc, you need to short pins 4 and 5 of the mini USB end. Do a google search for a diagram etc. Once modified the cable will no longer work as a sync cable.
Richard
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I beg to differ. My shiny white Apple iPod USB charger works perfectly as a charger for the Wizard, with the USB cable provided with the phone.
I'm aware that some phones including the Razr and Blackberry are sometimes reported to be picky about the USB chargers, but so far Wizard has no such curiosities.
ZeBoxx said:
alternatively - a bit uglier - get a travel plug converter (just the plug converter, not the big transformers). The charger that came in the box is rated for 100V-240V and ~50Hz-~60Hz - so it'll work in EU, USA, UK, JP - as long as I bring the plug converter so that it'll physically fit
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Not really viable - as often when abroad i just take a rucksack and see where i end up - so ideally everything is light and preferably a cable that is permanently attached to the plug.
Incidentally - there is a company in italy called Wind doing a PAYG sim that offers a gig of data in Italy for 20 euros - so not much use to most here - but if you use it for roaming in europe - they drop it to 20% of that - so 204.8 meg for 20 euros per month - Tmobile charges 1500 and orange 2 grand for the same!
So I visited my local Walmart and discovered a car charger, designed for Blackberry 6200 through 7500 and Motorola RAZR series phones.
The connector is the same, mini USB B.
$25,000 Question: Can I use this to charge my TMO MDA? Same connection, just worried the voltage or wiring might not be the same.
The AC chargers that came with my Razr and MDA are the same voltage-wise (5V) but not the same Amps.
MDA is 5V 1A, Razr is 5V 0.5A, they are not the same
However, it shouldn't damage the battery, just charge slower.
Just so you know, USB ports output 5V at 0.5A as well.
Edit: Sorry, I realize I completely changed my post, but didn't want incorrect info out there.
Thanks...I figured that, but was just making sure.
I got it in case of emergency...I almost always charge via USB; just leave it plugged in all day.
But you never know.....
Thanks!
fuzzie said:
Thanks...I figured that, but was just making sure.
I got it in case of emergency...I almost always charge via USB; just leave it plugged in all day.
But you never know.....
Thanks!
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Don't expect it to charge if you battery is below 30-20% charge. I'm not sure why this is an issue but it has bitten me in the rear once already.
Does anybody know why it's a problem for "less-than-1amp" chargers to charge back from the low threshold?
boxwave.com sells a 1 amp car charger. It has a USB port, so you just use it with any cable that normally plugs into a USB port. Since my Globalsat GBH-820 BT adapter came with a cable with large USB at one end, and _two_ mini USB at the other end, I can charge the GBH-820 and my 8125 at the same time.
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boxwave.com sells a 1 amp car charger. It has a USB port, so you just use it with any cable that normally plugs into a USB port. Since my Globalsat GBH-820 BT adapter came with a cable with large USB at one end, and _two_ mini USB at the other end, I can charge the GBH-820 and my 8125 at the same time.
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That's not true,... if you use the VersaCharger like I do. This is where I learned of the "charging only" cable that Boxwave sells (how conveinent) and then they sell a Sync/charger for USB only. I have a Boxwave VersaCharger that I can't use without buying their "cable" to make it charge the 8125. I found this out because I have a Belkin retractable sync/charge cable that doesn't work with the VersaCharger as I had hoped. The cable that you have may work with 1amp charger but it probably won't work with theVersaCharger.
What is the output on the "min-usb" connector end of the cable? This sounds like the cable that I need for the 2 devices that I use.
...I wonder if they are putting some electronics in the cable connector...?
I bought the bundle that had a car charger (I have the regular; not the high output; not the Versa) and two mini-Sync (retractable) cables. I got caught by the fact that one of them is "charging only" when I was trying to use the "charging only" cable between my laptop and my TI-84plus calculator. I switched to the mini-USB cable that came with my calculator, and it worked fine, as did my phone with AS. That's when I looked closer at the two mini-sync cables and noticed that one was for "charging only". So, that mini-sync cable (the charging only) stays in the car, and works fine for charging my phone or my GBH-820. The really odd thing is that the "charging only" cable looks "thicker" than the one that works for syncing. Maybe lower gauge wire to help the higher current flow easier.
I have also used my other USB-miniUSB cables with my car adapter. E.g. the cable that came with the phone, the cable that came with my TI-84plus calculator.
My Bluetake headphones came with their own USB cable that has, for lack of any better term, an ultraminiUSB (or some kind of proprietary connector, cause it's not marked with a USB symbol like the other cables) plug at the end. I just plug the regular USB end of that cable into the car charger, and it charges the Bluetake's just fine.
Excellent car charger for Wizard
I have purchased and used the "Ecovell 4x USB" adapter on both a Wizard and a Universal. It provides a 2 Amp output which is equivalent to the AC adapter and works with any mini-USB cable. It will charge a Universal from absolutely dead which I have not been able to do with any other adapter. Here is the link to the item on Yes Depot:
http://www.yesdepot.com/product/ud0520.html
I've ordered from them and the service was OK. I haven't seen the item available anywhere else.
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Dave
I can't locate a usb bob to test ultra-tiny pins on mini? usb so it's hard to triage this issue.
I bought sync/charge and charge cables from BoxWave...they work perfectly and allow me to charge my 8525, S9, 820 and Holux GPS from a battery pack, wall xformer, car charger usb, etc.
I then bought charge cables from JAVOedge.com and they don't work...they do charge my friend's 8525 though.
The JAVOedge cable won't charge my 8525 but will charge my Holux GPS.
Both charging cables are 2-wire and charge/sync cable appears to be 3-wire.
Although JAVOedge doesn't charge my 8525 when it is powered up...noticing another forum thread I powered 8525 down and now it DOES seem to be charging...at least orange light is on.
I recently bought Targus ultra-slim hub, VEC414S and Tumi Universal Slim PS....yet can't get a lockdown on exact usb charge-only cable reqts.
Why can I connect ANY device via USB directly to computer and it always charges with vanilla usb....yet same usb connected to powered standalone usb hub or charger/battery no workee. Is this due to 1A from computer usb and only 500ma from hub?
Any ideas? I'm confused without approp. BOB to check pins with multimeter.
Found link...
I found this in Hermes-Accessories forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277742
Still going thru 14+ pages...
I can't seem to find a usb to "whatever it is" wire selling..
is it a standard micro USB port?
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I can't seem to find a usb to "whatever it is" wire selling..
is it a standard micro USB port?
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yes... u r rite... itz a MICRO USB...
But it can't supply power to a USB device, so it can't be used like a PC USB port. It's only good for recharging and syncing.
so if i want to buy an additional wire, i look for a USB to MICRO USB wire right? no need to buy from HTC right?
cause i saw one usb that is smaller but it doesn't fit.. is there a MINI USB port too?
am confused
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But it can't supply power to a USB device, so it can't be used like a PC USB port. It's only good for recharging and syncing.
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Erm yes it can,
Actually better take the device with you. Sellers here told me there is like 7 different very similar connectors. However this one should be the standard micro USB, which is supposed to be universal charger/sync cable in the future (at least in EU).
And yes, of course, there is mini USB. And there even are more versions of mini USB, for example HTC used their own.
You had better use HTC cables. HD2 is microusb, but not all microusb cables are good for HD2. Like iPhone, it takes a large charging current, and many no brand cables cannot do it. I've got a third party cable that syncs only, but if charged from the PC, the HD2 will say that the charging current is too small. Battery actually drops when I connect HD2 to PC using this cable (because my options set it that backlight is always on when HD2 is connected). Other combinations are OK:
original cable + AC plug: charging OK
original cable + PC: charging OK
third party cable + AC plug: charging OK
third party cable + PC: "insufficient charging current"
Be careful with cables- you'd be better to buy the genuine HTC version.
Many USB/MicroUSB cables are for charging only, and don't have the data pins connected. Thats OK if you just want to charge it while you are away from your main PC or power supply.
You can also buy a miniUSB/MicroUSB adapter for charging using and older miniSUB charger, but again these don't have the data pins connected.
I bought a number of 3rd party USB to microUSB cables a month ago for sync and charging (office, PC, bedside charging), so far so good... no issues (maybe I'm lucky). The OmniaII uses the same connector, so I'm using the HTC car charger to charge both.
I bought Nokia's cable (for E71,N97,etc.) and it work just fine with charging from laptop. much cheaper than HTC in here.
if you are going for the cheapo option...
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=MICRO+USB+SYNC%26+CHARGE+CABLE+for+HTC+HD2+HD+2+Leo+T8585
i got a couple from ebay - arrived the next day. - charge/sync fine.
charger from iPhone
The iPhone charger coud be used for charging HD2. Just plug the microUSB cord instead of iPhones and ... voila. The same outputs
N86-8megapixel cable doesnt work..
So I managed to leave my HTC cable at work (2 days after getting the Telstra HD2 in OZ) and now I am on 4-5 days leave from work and really want to tinker with my phone. I think I may end up having to go back to work to collect the HTC cable - as below... challenge to get non-HTC cable to work.
I found that my wife's N86-8megapixel nokia has a similar micro-usb cable.
When connected to the PC the phone starts charging and the PC does the "doo-doop" sound a "appears" to connect to the phone, but active sync cannot detect the phone \ sync.
I see others have had success with nokia cables - I am wondering if there is something wierd going on.
Probably a daft question!
Is there any reason I cannot use a "stock" non HTC usb cable for syncing / charging. Is the HTC cable any different to any others e.g. Nokia?
Surely one cable is the same as another!?!
You can use ANY USB/microUSB Data/Charge Cable ;-)
I also do so :-D
no, charging doesn't really works, not for most cables. Unless it is explicitly marked for HD2 or iPhone. It seems they follow a new specifications. Older cables do not carry as much current. With connected to PC via a third party cable, my HD2 pops up a screen saying that the charging current is insufficient.
You can use any USB 2.0 A Male to Micro 5pin Male. Basically the typical USB to micro USB cable. I'm using a Blackberry micro usb cable (plugged into laptop) to charge my HD2 at work.
Usually sells for $2-3, or less, for 1-2 feet cable. Overpriced if you pay more. I bought the BB cable from Amazon, though I usually buy cables from monoprice.com.
i have a cable that comes with the car charger that charges the device when connected to the pc but cannot be used to sync files. when connected through this cable, the pc does not recognize it at all as an external device as it recognizes a dvd, cd, etc. in its driver.
I'm using a Blackberry cable in the office and works like a charm; I have the original at Home.