I hope this not a problem posting this here. I am from Delaware and I am trying to get rid of my iPhone 3gs and get an htc magic with AT&T 3g bands. I am having no success with craigslist, it is flooded with iPhones. If anyone out there has a htc magic in great condition with warranty and wants a iPhone 3gs with a full zagg invisishield already on the phone. Please contact me at
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Won't happen.
The Roger's Magic isn't going to put out the 3G capability you're looking for on the AT&T frequencies.
It would have to be properly scaled and designed to function on those frequencies, which it isn't. If a phone is GSM, that doesn't necessarily mean it can output the 3G speeds on any GSM provider. The MHz bandwidths need to be the same.
htc magic at&t 3g
Can anyone else confirm this, I have read multiple forums that have said that it is possible. The specs for Rogers say UMTS 850,1900 which is the same 3g freq. that AT&T uses.
It works with Rogers HTC Magic
I can confirm 3G works on AT&T with the Rogers HTC Magic.
Reignzone said:
The Roger's Magic isn't going to put out the 3G capability you're looking for on the AT&T frequencies.
It would have to be properly scaled and designed to function on those frequencies, which it isn't. If a phone is GSM, that doesn't necessarily mean it can output the 3G speeds on any GSM provider. The MHz bandwidths need to be the same.
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Rogers uses the same bandwidths that ATT uses.
This is for the reason that Rogers used to be Rogers ATT.
I can confirm that my HTC Magic from Rogers gets 3g.
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Anyone know of an online retailer or somewhere in Canada that will ship a Rogers G1 to the US?
I would quite like to start using 3G on AT&T.
-James
i dont believe that there is any hardware change with the Rogers G1 - as such, you may not be able to use ATT 3g with it.
no, there are changes. uses 850/1900 HSPA bands. Same as ATT
i'm actually looking for a Rogers Dream as well
Specifically, the power amplifier chip used is different. The specs for the T-Mobile G1 use a power amplifier for AWS 1700/2100 3G. That part (if you can find it on google) is very specific that it's only for 1700/2100.
So the Rogers Dream G1 has a different power amplier for 850/1900 3G.
Maybe the power amplifier in the Rogers version also supports AWS, but that's not relevant.
-James
ebay...
I believe if you ebay search "rogers htc dream" you'll find some.
I'll be moving back stateside this August and I'd love to use my sim free Legend on a gsm provider back home.
T-mobile US 3G bands are (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
The Legend is specified for use at: HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
Can anyone clarify if I'll be able to get 3G on a T-mobile US sim?
Or even knowing the bands are similar does the fact that T-mobile uses AWS and not HSPA/WCDMA mean I wont get 3g?
Any type of clarification would be helpful
3djon said:
I'll be moving back stateside this August and I'd love to use my sim free Legend on a gsm provider back home.
T-mobile US 3G bands are (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
The Legend is specified for use at: HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
Can anyone clarify if I'll be able to get 3G on a T-mobile US sim?
Or even knowing the bands are similar does the fact that T-mobile uses AWS and not HSPA/WCDMA mean I wont get 3g?
Any type of clarification would be helpful
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Hey man, you might have figured this out already but, as far as I can tell, you can't use the T-mobile US 3G bands on the legend. I got my legend over the interwebs and put my t-mobile SIM in there, and although there's 2g data, no 3G. I don't really mind though, it's an awesome phone and it gets plenty of second glances since there's nothing like it here in the states. I'm also around wi-fi most of the time i need it, but it would be awesome to get that 3G working.
I've looked around a little but can't find anything. Does anyone know if this is even physically possible? And if so, how? Thanks.
I just bought a My Touch 3G Slide on eBay. I got it unlocked in an hour using cellunlock.net for $10 and got it all setup. However, now I'm noticing that it never goes into 3G, just EDGE.
I searched to find if it could even work with Rogers' 3G network and I'm even more confused. So does it work with Rogers' 3G?
I've also seen posts that it works on HSPA. I've used the APNs for Rogers' HSPA and still I'm getting just EDGE. Do I have to update my radio, use CM6 or something?
Sorry, I'm new to the MT3GS. I have a MT3G/Magic and I thought the new one would be pretty much the same except with a keyboard.
I *think* that Roger's uses the AT&T bands for 3G, not T-Mobile. Sorry.
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I *think* that Roger's uses the AT&T bands for 3G, not T-Mobile. Sorry.
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thats correct, Att and Rodgers uses the 1900mhz band and the mt3gs only has the 1700 NA band and the 850/2100mhz EU bands
That sucks. So it won't work on HSPA either then? I though Rogers offers one of those USB modems that works on 2100MHz HSPDA. Will that work with the MT3GS?
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That sucks. So it won't work on HSPA either then? I though Rogers offers one of those USB modems that works on 2100MHz HSPDA. Will that work with the MT3GS?
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It has the 2100mhz band, but that is so you can have 3G when you go to europe. Rogers only broadcasts 1900mhz in CA.
Damn. Oh well, my wife won't know the difference between EDGE and 3G anyway. Thanks.
sorry i don't belong in this forum but how do you guys explain the g1 having 3g then its a tmobile phone does it have a att frequency for no reason?
Rogers actually sold G1s so they probably got their own version that will work on their network.
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Rogers actually sold G1s so they probably got their own version that will work on their network.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App
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unlocked g1's from the US work on rogers network.
Beats me. The myTouch 3G Slide I got from the US works too just not on 3G but on Edge.
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OK, I finally get that the frequency band is a hardware thing and that Rogers and T-Mobile use different bands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
So is it possible to change the actual cell phone radio chip and write a ROM that will work with it? I realize it's crazy, but with all the Android development going on, you'd think someone would have tired to get some device that only worked with T-Mobile to work on At&t.
so i got this fantastic HTC Touch HD (unlocked) to replace my beat up sidekick. anyway i want to know if there's any way to use this phone on t-mobile's 3G network? what a shame it'd be if i cant.
If you have a T8282 (BLAC100) then it's not possible, the hardware isn't there to support US 3G bands. The T8285 (BLAC120) should work fine though.
Not on T-Mobile though, 8285 is for 850/1900 3G bands (AT&T) and you need 1700 for T-Mobile
I have am htc surround unlocked from at&t and using it currently with t-mobile everything works fine however the 3g is not working is there any configuration for the apn our something that I need to do to make it work please somebody help me.....
No. The hardware is different.
T mobile and at&t use different frequency for 3g data.
Unfortunately surround only support at&t frequency so u can't use 3g on t mobile network.
if i not mistaken the htc surround supports lte 4g.... so you might be able to
im not sure you might have to wait for a update
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if i not mistaken the htc surround supports lte 4g.... so you might be able to
im not sure you might have to wait for a update
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Not true. The Surround does NOT support 4G LTE.
In reply to the OP, the Surround isn't getting 3G on T-Mobile because it only supports AT&T's 3G bands. Carriers do that so you cannot use the phone elsewhere if you try to weasel out of your contract. If you bought it off-contract, you should have stuck with AT&T because there is no configuration or any setting that exists that will get the Surround to use T-Mobile's 3G.
If you need 3G, you should probably consider returning the phone if you still have the chance and go get the HD7 instead.
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The Data bands used for AT&T are different yes, but this phone is a data quad band phone, so the antenna should be able to pick up the signal for T-Mobile or AT&T. It should be no more than a configuration issue. Both the HD 7 for T-Mobile and the Surround for AT&T have the same radio for data reception (/us/products/compare/120-121?view=1-1&sort=0&filters=0-11-0). Add www and htc and dotcom to the link.
Nope.
ATT offers UMTS or 3G using 850mhz(the old TDMA band) and 1900mhz.
While T-mobile offers HSDPA (technically 3.5g part of the UMTS specification) using 1700MHz for uplink and 2100MHz downlink.
The Surround would have to be 850/1700/1900/2100 3G and 850/1900 GSM (voice) to work on T-Mo's 3G.