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Hi guys,
I'm using real Vga with my Uni and I've run onto few problems.
- missing bits of background in the phone skin + small fonts on buttons
(i have seen it posted here some time ago, i just can't seem to find it now :/)
- broken phone code keypad (narrow buttons, small fonts)
And uuhm, there were few others, which i can't recall right now
Thanks in advance
necc said:
Hi guys,
I'm using real Vga with my Uni and I've run onto few problems.
- missing bits of background in the phone skin + small fonts on buttons
(i have seen it posted here some time ago, i just can't seem to find it now :/)
- broken phone code keypad (narrow buttons, small fonts)
And uuhm, there were few others, which i can't recall right now
Thanks in advance
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You may download vjbigphone from here:
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJBigPhone
but there isn't a wm6 version available yet.
I'm using VJBigPhone and it works in terms of making the buttons bigger, but fonts are still small :/ maybe i've got an old version, let me try to download again and check again.
Thanks
Oh and also the keypad that shows up when you're phone is locked, it's really narrow, centred, taking only about 30% of screen width :/ anything that i could do with that ?
The biggest loss is the WM6 version of VJbigphone !! I really need this !!!
when I used it on wm5, the fonts didn't change. (but i wasn't bothered)
also i never used lock so i haven't seen that issue.
Hi, I'm in need of a working "enlarged start menu"-application on my SE X1. The thing is that I really much need it to be freeware, and I suppose that "XDA-Team Enlarged Start Menu" isn't (correct?). I'm thinking about developing the application myself, but I would like to know if anyone here has any information about where to start? Is is just a matter of changing some registry keys? XML-files? Thankful for all the help i can get!
as far as i understand, the XDA Enlarged Start Menu is just taken from one of the other HTC devices and is not "payware" or anything like that.
if anyone was developing an enlarged Start Menu, i'd love to see a kinda fullscreen version, this would make it much easier to navigate. kinda in the style of iContact or the latest volume control taken from Diamond. i don't really se why the start menu needs to be only a percentage of the screen size anyway, just seems like bad design, they've made it look like the Start Menu on a Windows Desktop PC so that we all know it's Windows, but have not actually thought about the interface being user friendly for a handheld device. for drunk people with fat fingers. like me.
Dr J said:
if anyone was developing an enlarged Start Menu, i'd love to see a kinda fullscreen version, this would make it much easier to navigate. kinda in the style of iContact or the latest volume control taken from Diamond. i don't really se why the start menu needs to be only a percentage of the screen size anyway, just seems like bad design, they've made it look like the Start Menu on a Windows Desktop PC so that we all know it's Windows, but have not actually thought about the interface being user friendly for a handheld device. for drunk people with fat fingers. like me.
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yes man, I absolutely agree !!! It´s funny, I never really thought about start menu, but now when I read your suggestion it just seems really crazy how much possibilities for improvement there are.
I thought about a completely customizable start menu, fullscreen.
Maybe with a kind of plugin system, volume / vib toggle, backlight strength slider, power off+soft-reset buttons....*sigh* THAT would be cool !
regards,
Martin
What about Touch Launcher http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433862
It´s a normal app, but I was talking about a REAL replacement. It should hide when I tap "Start" again, and, as I said, it should be really customizable.
To all devs out there: Is anyone interested in coding such an app ? I think this is desperatly needed to make WM a bit more usable, although there are already tons of good software out there.
regards,
Martin
m.schmidler said:
It´s a normal app, but I was talking about a REAL replacement. It should hide when I tap "Start" again, and, as I said, it should be really customizable.
To all devs out there: Is anyone interested in coding such an app ? I think this is desperatly needed to make WM a bit more usable, although there are already tons of good software out there.
regards,
Martin
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Did u try Quickmenu 2.7?
Mikulec said:
Did u try Quickmenu 2.7?
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hmmm, main thing i want is fullscreen. that one seems nice feature-wise, but it's not what i'm after.
devs, do any of you know how they changed the size of the Start Menu from the old style to the new enlarged one?
if we know how to do this then maybe we can hack the existing app to at least lengthen right across the width of the screen... or if it was hacked with a config we could pick how many items we wanted...
this could be a great project for the coders!
Mikulec said:
Did u try Quickmenu 2.7?
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Well, quickmenu is _almost_ perfect. If it only was more finger-friendly. Being able to scroll trough menus like in icontact and all so many other apps would be great for it, but at least having twice as big menu entries would be enough in most cases. It has all the features needed, it just mimicks the original start menu a bit too much
Touch menu from touch commander suite is exactly what you want,and it has and application menu enlarged. Unfortunaly its not freeware.
Here is little something about system fonts:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms901091.aspx
By changing some registry values you can change size of start menu (including font size etc.) and popup menu as well.
Andreal said:
Here is little something about system fonts:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms901091.aspx
By changing some registry values you can change size of start menu (including font size etc.) and popup menu as well.
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Ohh thankyou! But, using PHM Regedit I've tried changing the Ht-value for BarFnt, which didn't do anything. Perhaps you have some pointers to what I should try?
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Ohh thankyou! But, using PHM Regedit I've tried changing the Ht-value for BarFnt, which didn't do anything. Perhaps you have some pointers to what I should try?
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BarFnt values are for menu bars (for example: bottom bar in total commander).
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GWE\Menu\PopFnt
is for popup menu (screen 1 shows Ht value of 1200)
Truly, I don't know how to change start menu font size via registry.
If you want to have full screen menu try mort buttons
can you launch mort buttons by tapping Start on the screen?
maybe by editing the registry ?
If anyone can duplicate the Touch Commander one it would be perfect. I have touchcommander but do not use it anymore, unfortunately you have to install the whole program to be able to use the Large menu option.
The great thing about it is it enlarges menus in all programs.
Sorry for bringing up an older thread, but I think this is still unsolved!
I also would like to have a fullscreen start menu. I tried quickmenu 2.8,but it just isnt what Im looking for. For me it would be fine if clicking on the start menu would bring up a dialog like when you click startmenu -- programs.
Hope that someone has an idea!
QUICKMENU 2.8 for me too... ^_^
I'd only add that scroll movement and ability to customize the start icon (it already does this, but only with one icon).
Description updated 08 Nov 2008
I stopped using the HTC Diamond dialer after I found out that it uses 10MB of memory (8MB on some improved ROMs like SwiftBL) at all times and is partly responsible for the device's laggy dialer performance.
The default WM dialer is an ugly grey but after finding this thread about QVGA skins I decided to make my own black skin. I'd like to thank the starter of that thread, Raceit, for helping me to get started with the image files and trying to fix them for me. Cheers dude!
I don't know how to make CABs yet so here's a zip. (EDIT: CAB available in post #3.) The orange colouring in the screenshots was part of my theme, not part of the skin.
To install, first disable the HTC dialer, see post #2 for more details.
If you would like to install the black 3D skin pictured below, the easiest method is to install the CAB provided by mic_888 in post #3. If you plan to use another skin that doesn't have a CAB then I advise installing the CAB anyway, then copying the images files from the ZIP archive into the Windows folder. There are 2 advantages of installing a CAB - firstly so that the image files are unprotected and easier to overwrite and secondly to make uninstallation easier. Just uninstall the CAB to remove whatever skin you are using and revert to standard the standard WM grey skin.
Hint: The Matrix, Flat Black and Sunset skins in this thread feature transparent buttons with different edge colours, feel free to use them with your own backgrounds. It's just a case of replacing the two png images with your own choice of portrait/landscape images
EDIT: Matrix and Flat Black skins added, see post #24 - CAB now added!
EDIT: Sunset skin added, see post #29 - CAB now added!
EDIT: Grey/White skin added, see post #71 - CAB now added!
EDIT: Dark TouchFlo skin by nhvoltagenh, see post #74-#75
Please also check out the skins by holdemdogg, starting at post #49!
Edit: More Skins, good ones too...
Ryon Skin
Noonski Diamondish Skin
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Dave
Information about using the standard WM dialer
The main drawback of the standard WM dialer is that you cannot use it for video calling. Not an issue for me personally.
The advantages are that it saves almost 10MB of memory, even on ROMs with an optimized dialer, and gets rid of that slight lag when making or answering a call when you're not sure if it's actually going to do anything. A further benefit is that the answer and reject keys are much more difficult to press accidentally, removing the need for an additional locking program (Answerkeys Disabler, TouchLockPro, S2U2, etc.)
The HTC dialer can be disabled using DiamondTweak or Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool. You must also disable the HTC Volume Control if you wish to be able to adjust the volume in-call. The only working method that I know of is to use this CAB here.
Edit: It turns out that disabling the HTC dialer also loses the Bluetooth icon in the taskbar. I had a quick google and found this solution. I've tested it and it works fine on my Diamond. File attached below for convenience.
Edit 2: The developers of the bluetooth icon app have released a new version that's more compatible with VGA! See below.
Made a cab - I haven't tested it though
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Made a cab - I haven't tested it though
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Perfect! Tested OK.
Thanks!
cab doesn't work. and image files can't be copy to the windows folder.
Great work I was looking for this and will include in my Lite rom, can you tranform also Phone_DPI_192 files? (call history), many thanks....
ciberus said:
Great work I was looking for this and will include in my Lite rom, can you tranform also Phone_DPI_192 files? (call history), many thanks....
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Nice one, glad someone else finds it useful! Can you post any more information? I don't know where those files are.
If anyone has any requests for other colours or designs, let me know. Also please feel free to post your own designs here.
so all i do is run the cab and then 10 mb will be freed up? does this work on the sprint diamond?
Any idea how to undo disable HTC volume control if I plan to go back to default HTC dialer?
Is the cab changing some registry settings?
stuckonashelf said:
so all i do is run the cab and then 10 mb will be freed up? does this work on the sprint diamond?
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No you need to disable the HTC dialer and volume control too. See post #2 for details. I don't know enough about the differences in the sprint but I expect so.
raspdeep said:
Any idea how to undo disable HTC volume control if I plan to go back to default HTC dialer?
Is the cab changing some registry settings?
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I don't really know what that cab does. Have you tried uninstalling from remove programs then soft-resetting?
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If anyone has any requests for other colours or designs, let me know.
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Well done, I'd like to try this!
But, as I use skilty's TF3D Matrix theme with it's skinned dialer, I'd like to request a Matrix WM dialer skin, please. For personal use and to share it in the Matrix Trilogy theme resource thread.
Maybe you want to have a go at it? It would be great if you could design one with 'real' 1234567890 digits. Perhaps from one of the free Matrix fonts.. And it would be bonus if you could design another skin with 'actual' Matrix font digits, like these.
Or maybe you can just use skilty's dialer artwork? I could ask skilty. Anyway, TIA!
Thanks Davey101!
I'm waiting for that since a long time!!!
Mandragore said:
Well done, I'd like to try this!
But, as I use skilty's TF3D Matrix theme with it's skinned dialer, I'd like to request a Matrix WM dialer skin, please. For personal use and to share it in the Matrix Trilogy theme resource thread.
Maybe you want to have a go at it? It would be great if you could design one with 'real' 1234567890 digits. Perhaps from one of the free Matrix fonts.. And it would be bonus if you could design another skin with 'actual' Matrix font digits, like these.
Or maybe you can just use skilty's dialer artwork? I could ask skilty. Anyway, TIA!
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News flash!
The Matrix trilogy ended, lamely, 5 years ago!
I think it might be easiest to use transparent buttons with a simple green border so that the matrix background image is seen through the buttons. I'll see what I can come up with, unless you'd like to have a go?
I don't know how to change the button font, sorry.
I use Vito Winterface....
I have made these buttons but not centered!
(I take the same gif mesure of Black VGA Dialer skin: 86x56, 128x54, 142x56 and 180x54)
If somebody could help me...
THX!!!
ZeuBug said:
I use Vito Winterface....
I have made these buttons but not centered!
(I take the same gif mesure of Black VGA Dialer skin for example, 86x56, 128x54, 142x56 and 180x54)
If somebody could help me...
THX!!!
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Sorry I don't understand that!
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Sorry I don't understand that!
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My (very) bad english or my problem???
ZeuBug said:
My (very) bad english or my problem???
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Your problem (maybe because of your English!)
Hi all,
Is anyone able to develope a Dialer skin that increases the numeric button sizes, There is a big bar of space at the top of the dialer that could be used for the other buttons we use, Or can we remove the call history list to increase the buttons?
Dan
creeky said:
Hi all,
Is anyone able to develope a Dialer skin that increases the numeric button sizes, There is a big bar of space at the top of the dialer that could be used for the other buttons we use, Or can we remove the call history list to increase the buttons?
Dan
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I'm sure it is possible but that would involve replacing or editing the dialer software, not just the skin. The standard software has a fixed layout and we can replace the images used but not change their size or position.
It might be worth looking around for an alternative dialer...
Davey101 said:
News flash!
The Matrix trilogy ended, lamely, 5 years ago!
I think it might be easiest to use transparent buttons with a simple green border so that the matrix background image is seen through the buttons. I'll see what I can come up with, unless you'd like to have a go?
I don't know how to change the button font, sorry.
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Ouch
Well, I don't know how to change anything on the WM dialer, so please, try transparent buttons and a simple green border and I'll check it out. Cheers!
None of the new keyboards from the diamond or opal grew on me, I always had the best experience with the phonepad so I updated the look by reversing the images in the dll files to go along better with the diamond/manila look that I currently have on my phone figured I'd post and share here for anyone else interested.
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Not being good with art Ive made a couple attempts to try and replicate the dotted background and manila button style, its not coming out as nicely as I would like it to so Im posting these images. If someone can skin them manila style i can finish the VGA version. All that need be done is the background and buttons, they can be left blank as Ill have to edit them anyway. I need a set of each. One normal style like the diamond dialer, dotted background and white buttons and a dotted background black buttons for when the buttons are pressed.
Great idea!
I have missed using phonepad-thanks for your work!
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None of the new keyboards from the diamond or opal grew on me, I always had the best experience with the phonepad so I updated the look by reversing the images in the dll files to go along better with the diamond/manila look that I currently have on my phone figured I'd post and share here for anyone else interested.
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Ahhh...where were you a month ago? I was missing my phone pad for T9 when I flashed a Manilla 2D Rom, and now the compact QWERTY has gotten comfy. Now I have to try your new phone pad!
Thanks mate. Looks great.
Thx,will try it out
also forgot, anyone having trouble installing or getting it to work it requires the sdkcerts since I had to resign all the dll files.
I want it at VGA... :-(
Actually there is a PhonePad in VGA. It works great but the skin is a little boring.
Still the fastest input method IMO.
Is it possible to get this diamond skin in VGA ?
If you guys get me the vga cab or oem I'll rework the dll files, might as well do something to contribute around here as much as I benefit from xda lol. Shouldn't be much quality loss upsizing these images as they're pretty basic but if there is any quality loss, I'll just redo the images will just need more time, find what you can and post it.
This is wonderful! Thank you so much.
Is it possible you resize the phonepad in landscape for 400*240?
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Other than asthetics, is there any actual performance advantage to using a 6.5.x ROM?
The things I hear is that:
the 6.5 builds are more stable, particularly with Sense.
the 6.5.x builds are more finger friendly.
Since I've never tried one, can any 6.5.x die-hards tell me what it is that causes you to sacrifice said stability? Is it just the latest and greatest idea?
looking at the pace at which software and ROMS get updated i think part of it is having hte latest and greatest - it's almost a game who can get the latest sense packages or WM build.
From what i can see 6.5.x adds threaded view, bottom start bar and nicer bigger buttons. Aesthetics and button usability ARE important in a phone.
I also believe 24xx builds are the fastest.
However, you must realise sense will catchup. This is why many roms have a 2359/2400 tree as well as a 218x tree.
it appears from the forums that not everyone has horrendous 6.5.x stability issues though.
Thanks for the feedback.
Is 23540 the latest build we have Chefs using here on the forum? I have not found a later build, but maybe I missed it.
Anyone who has anything to share on this, I am curious and trying to decide if I want to take the plunge.
I'm using a 6.5.x rom (Evolution 1.3) and its stable and general I found its other apps that cause it to fail not the rom. I like it for the interface, much easier for one handed use and for a finger not stylus.
I did try another 6.5.x rom earlier and it was very unstable but I found I liked the interface. I used a 6.5 rom in the interim and it was very stable but really liked the more finger friendly 6.5.x rom style.
If you use a popular 6.5.x rom it will probably be okay but I would be a bit more careful with the newer chefs roms.
There is a lot of reasons I prefer 6.5.x over 6.5, finger friendly, thread e-mail, new UI, etc... Nonetheless it is a personal preference and you have to be in it so you can understand it. So you can seat on the side line and watch us play with it or you can just join the fun. At least if you try it, you will know what you are or not missing. And if you don't like it then you go back to side line again keep watching out of the window.
im one who really dont like 6.5.5...too big buttons who change the screen "wallpaper" space...and of course i dont like the big menu style...i dont know about stability cos i just tryed for some hour before flash another rom...i really dont understand why there are so many 6.5.5 roms compared to classical one
the asthetics are the reason why i HATE 6.5.x - the new start button looks out of place and ruins the spacing on the softkey bar...
looking at the builds i think it also takes up extra space on screen unecessarily. every pixel counts
I find 6.5 to be aesthetically good enough. I havent seen any ugliness - and everything seems finger friendly enough.
I will try 4354x build soon, but 218x seems ok. TBH I have a hard time seeing why people think WM6.5 brings the HD2 down so much.
It seems to sip battery atm even with a few addons, and seems impressively configurable - like Mio satnavs.
Caus HD2 has a large screen so 6.5.X look like easy too use (Push Button)
and Rom 6.5.X is also stable too.
You should try.
Hi,
To my opinion wm6.5.x isn't that great and still in a very early beta status so bugs bugs bugs....
The startmenu at the bottum of the screen yeah great but the large buttons I don't see the benefit as you have hardware buttons beneat them.
Besides that the large buttons at the bottum of the screen in wm6.5x open a finger menu which you have in wm6.5 as well.
Another thing is that I find it a pitty the large software buttons in wm6.5.x taking a large space of that beautifull
screen you have on HD2.
And faster? No it isn't faster but very slugish compared to wm6.5.
Grtz Leo
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
To my opinion wm6.5.x isn't that great and still in a very early beta status so bugs bugs bugs....
The startmenu at the bottum of the screen yeah great but the large buttons I don't see the benefit as you have hardware buttons beneat them.
Besides that the large buttons at the bottum of the screen in wm6.5x open a finger menu which you have in wm6.5 as well.
Another thing is that I find it a pitty the large software buttons in wm6.5.x taking a large space of that beautifull
screen you have on HD2.
And faster? No it isn't faster but very slugish compared to wm6.5.
Grtz Leo
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I'm pretty sure (or assumed) that the total usable screen space is still the same eventually, because the 'thicker' softkeys/buttons at the bottom, are compensated by the 'thinner' taskbar at the top.
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
To my opinion wm6.5.x isn't that great and still in a very early beta status so bugs bugs bugs....
The startmenu at the bottum of the screen yeah great but the large buttons I don't see the benefit as you have hardware buttons beneat them.
Besides that the large buttons at the bottum of the screen in wm6.5x open a finger menu which you have in wm6.5 as well.
Another thing is that I find it a pitty the large software buttons in wm6.5.x taking a large space of that beautifull
screen you have on HD2.
And faster? No it isn't faster but very slugish compared to wm6.5.
Grtz Leo
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Actually I think that the software buttons on the bottom are user friendy, for the following reasons:
1. you get your close button on the bottom so you don't have to "travel" all the way to the top to close an app. (ideal for one-hand usage)
2. for a large device like the hd2 i like it that the right soft-menu button is positioned closer to the center. It makes it more accessible for my rather small hands when I use it with one hand.
3. The large windows software button is in my opinion better than the tiny hardware button.
For the rest I agree with you.
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
To my opinion wm6.5.x isn't that great and still in a very early beta status so bugs bugs bugs....
The startmenu at the bottum of the screen yeah great but the large buttons I don't see the benefit as you have hardware buttons beneat them.
Besides that the large buttons at the bottum of the screen in wm6.5x open a finger menu which you have in wm6.5 as well.
Another thing is that I find it a pitty the large software buttons in wm6.5.x taking a large space of that beautifull
screen you have on HD2.
And faster? No it isn't faster but very slugish compared to wm6.5.
Grtz Leo
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+1 on that, i know that this is the future but as long as htc will release an official 6.5.x rom i will stick with com2 roms. there are too many bugs mainly graphics ones related to the sense.
As others have stated, I'm one of those "Hate 6.5.5" people. Compared to the stable, classic 6.5, it just looks ugly-IMHO.
Hi Appelflap,
what about the Windows start menu hardware button at the bottum of the screen?
And if you want to go back the hardware Homebutton?
appelflap said:
Actually I think that the software buttons on the bottom are user friendy, for the following reasons:
1. you get your close button on the bottom so you don't have to "travel" all the way to the top to close an app. (ideal for one-hand usage)
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Edit; overlooked number 3 hihi, sorry.
Grtz Leo
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3. The large windows software button is in my opinion better than the tiny hardware button.
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi Appelflap,
what about the Windows start menu hardware button at the bottum of the screen?
And if you want to go back the hardware Homebutton?
Edit; overlooked number 3 hihi, sorry.
Grtz Leo
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Even more better than the button interface of wm 6.5.x is a gesture UI. I think this is going to have the future. But don't let me go off-topic here...
A gesture UI sounds interesting.
If you disable Sense from today isn't that what you mean Appelflap the WM6.5.x interface?
Now you are ON topic so go ahead.
appelflap said:
Even more better than the button interface of wm 6.5.x is a gesture UI. I think this is going to have the future. But don't let me go off-topic here...
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A gesture UI sounds interesting.
If you disable Sense from today isn't that what you mean Appelflap the WM6.5.x interface?
Now you are ON topic so go ahead.
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lol, no that's not what I meant. What I mean is a interface where you don't have to push any buttons but where you can just swipe your way around. For example instead of a back button, just swipe back.. Instead of a home button just swipe upwards etc. etc.
gesture based OS
Palm WebOS already does this - I have a HD2 and a Pre and gotta say, WebOS rocks so much. It's really so natural to use the gestures that when I switch back to my HD2 I almost have to forget/retrain the way I use my phone!
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Palm WebOS already does this - I have a HD2 and a Pre and gotta say, WebOS rocks so much. It's really so natural to use the gestures that when I switch back to my HD2 I almost have to forget/retrain the way I use my phone!
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Hey, didn't know that the WebOS has that! Nice to know, i'm going to read a bit about it.
(BTW let's face it Palm is the inventor of this form-factor and they did a pretty good job with Grafity. I'm very curious what they are doing nowadays)