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Can I Vent about AT&T!!!????!!!!

So, I ordered my nexus one with a contract from Google when the phone came out. I was not in a contract with AT&T and had not been for more than 2 years. When the service switched (ported my number) I called AT&T and confirmed that my service was canceled. Everything is all good. Well, a month later I got a bill from AT&T for a full month.... I called them and they said that since I was a week into my billing cycle they billed me for the FULL month and would not, will not, & cannot refund the time I could not use the phone. I called a few times and spoke with management (I was polite & professional the whole time!).
I then contacted my credit card company for the amount I thought I shouldn't have had to pay. Card Company gave me a temp credit. Few days later AT&T gave the amount back to me that I was seeking and the card company reversed my credit. All good I though. Then I received an email from AT&T saying I have a past due amount. THE EXACT AMOUNT THEY GAVE ME BACK!!!! So yeah, they gave me the money I was seeking and are now asking for it back???? I have yet to call them but it is due on the 19th.
This is one reason why I left AT&T. And they have the best reception in the area. I still left them and I get this kind of crap after being a loyal customer since 03. Stupid company.
Just wanted to Vent!
Thank you!

LOL, I still owe them like 300 bucks, most likely won't ever get it. With my android phone, I send them to voicemail when their collections company calls me ha.

Is there any phone company that is not a big jackass? I mean big 4 (Verizon - Lock down high way / even bigger jack ass, ATT - jack ass, Tmobile - their N1 pricing is wack, sprint - bad and slow service) I mean come on whatever happens to honest bunsiness???

I tried the iPhone 3GS on AT&T for a couple of weeks but cancelled without issues. Only had to pay a restocking fee and a prorated fee for what airtime I did use. My cousin did the same, but they charged her the restocking fee, the prorated amount, AND an ETF! And she cancelled during the remorse period! Took a couple of months for her to get everything straightened out, but it was a major PITA for her.

Actually Sprint is not bad at all from what I've heard from colleagues. And their pricing is extremely aggressive! I'd never leave a GSM carrier though.

mazzarin said:
Actually Sprint is not bad at all from what I've heard from colleagues. And their pricing is extremely aggressive! I'd never leave a GSM carrier though.
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Agreed... the only reason I haven't considered switching to Sprint thus far is because I would prefer GSM, but more imporantly LTE in the future...

uansari1 said:
Agreed... the only reason I haven't considered switching to Sprint thus far is because I would prefer GSM, but more imporantly LTE in the future...
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If you live in a Wimax area, Sprint's Wimax will be available on phones by this summer. It'll be about a year for LTE devices to start popping up for verizon. If you change your device every year, then you won't miss anything.
I'm not to worried about LTE right now because I have to get a new phone with in the next month or so. I wanna keep it for more than a year so LTE is two device's away, one now and one 18 months from now at the earliest.
Can anyone confirm is sprint still cancels contracts that exceed 5gigs. Easy way out of a contract when LTE comes out.

FWIW, its not just AT&T, its all of them.
I love AT&T and refuse to switch to anyone else. That being said, in November, I switched to VZW for the Droid. I had it 10 days and was miserable so I cancelled and switched back.
Needless to say, VZW has still yet to send me back the full amount they owe me for the rest of the month I paid for and never used. This is now 4 months later.

NexusX said:
Is there any phone company that is not a big jackass? I mean big 4 (Verizon - Lock down high way / even bigger jack ass, ATT - jack ass, Tmobile - their N1 pricing is wack, sprint - bad and slow service) I mean come on whatever happens to honest bunsiness???
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TMobile has nothing to do with the Nexus One pricing
If you want to *****, then ***** about Google's pricing scheme. TMobile is a business and when the day is over they need to make money... so they cannot just hand out Nexus Ones and take a hit for each one they sell.

deekjx said:
If you live in a Wimax area, Sprint's Wimax will be available on phones by this summer. It'll be about a year for LTE devices to start popping up for verizon. If you change your device every year, then you won't miss anything.
I'm not to worried about LTE right now because I have to get a new phone with in the next month or so. I wanna keep it for more than a year so LTE is two device's away, one now and one 18 months from now at the earliest.
Can anyone confirm is sprint still cancels contracts that exceed 5gigs. Easy way out of a contract when LTE comes out.
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I just left Sprint and can say that I haven't seen anyone successfully get out of a contract for that as far back as I can remember. A more successful way was to go into a Sprint roaming area and burn through minutes. The contract itself states that if you use > 50% of your minutes in roam they have a right to terminate your contract. On most phones you can just set it to Roam Only and then call movie phone or something similar and just let it run during the unlimited periods. It may take a few months but they generally send a letter stating they will terminate your service as you will end up costing them more than they are making from your plan in roaming fees to their roaming partners.
However, Sprint's service and network was actually quite good for my needs. Everywhere I went I either had Sprint service or roamed onto Verizon for voice (not as often as I would have expected). I even had coverage in areas that my wife did not with Verizon. Now, I think their choice of WiMax will eventually come back to haunt them, but they do have a decent sized rollout of WiMax currently and their plans are very aggressively priced.

They are quite the evil little company
Good to know that they do not pro-rate the monthly charge when you cancel.
I'm switching in a week!

Here we go haha.. IF you're going to leave Sprint, where are you going?

Being that Verizon and AT&T are doing crazy ish too now ( via engadget ) Where are you guys going to go? Which company, plan etc? And is there any 100% concrete information on what is going to happen to us? Theres a bizillion threads on what "is" going to happen, but we dont know if any of that is ture.
Here is what the low down is now for Verizon and AT&T now... ( http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/atandt-tweaking-messaging-plans-killing-some-upgrade-discounts-r/ )

mroneeyedboh said:
Being that Verizon and AT&T are doing crazy ish too now ( via engadget ) Where are you guys going to go? Which company, plan etc? And is there any 100% concrete information on what is going to happen to us? Theres a bizillion threads on what "is" going to happen, but we dont know if any of that is ture.
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I will be starting my own cell phone company. Towers are in the process of being built as we speak!
Maybe you should include in the OP what all the srazy chit we have to look forward to in the future.

Ill use one of those big funky satellite phones that osama bin ladin uses.

jhoffy22 said:
I will be starting my own cell phone company. Towers are in the process of being built as we speak!
Maybe you should include in the OP what all the srazy chit we have to look forward to in the future.
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In the OP I linked the verizon/at&t ish
phatmanxxl said:
Ill use one of those big funky satellite phones that osama bin ladin uses.
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lolwut haha

mroneeyedboh said:
Being that Verizon and AT&T are doing crazy ish too now ( via engadget ) Where are you guys going to go? Which company, plan etc? And is there any 100% concrete information on what is going to happen to us? Theres a bizillion threads on what "is" going to happen, but we dont know if any of that is ture.
Here is what the low down is now for Verizon and AT&T now... ( http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/atandt-tweaking-messaging-plans-killing-some-upgrade-discounts-r/ )
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Hm well what are my options:
Big Red: The iPhone (metaphor for popular, expensive and useless) of the mobile service provider industry is actually getting an iPhone (the popular, expensive and useless phone from wence the metaphor came). They're still big, popular, expensive and useless. Can't go there, next...
AT&T: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, omg *wipes tears from eyes*, haha yea right...next.
T-Mobile: Is the down syndrome-stricken child of the service provider world. They have okay phones, okay service but I haven't talked to a customer service rep yet who wasn't on their 2nd day of English-As-A-Second-Language classes yet and they have no resiliancy. I told one of them that they aren't American so they have no soul. She broke down and cried on the phone. For real, I was just angry, angry at their terrible, scripted, idiot customer service.
If I had to go anywhere it'd be back to T-Mobile, at least they have an unlimited text AND unlimited data plan that doesn't throttle you after 1 or 2GB of usage. I just need to make sure that I NEVER need customer service again. Prepare for your call to be routed to India.

The only way we are going to bring the ball back into the consumers court is we all stop signing contracts.

AT&T is going to be changing their texting plans effective Jan. 23rd. They are getting rid of $5 200 txt plan and $15 1500 txt plan. The only plans they are going to have is $10 1000 txt and $20 unlimited. It seems like all carriers are making changes at the same time.
I got rid of AT&T and won't be going back. I'll stick with Sprint.
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nebenezer said:
The only way we are going to bring the ball back into the consumers court is we all stop signing contracts.
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Then we will be paying full price for our phones..... Evo is an expensive phone.

I really want to drop the carriers and ise VOIP or something else. I'm on wifi nearly everywhere I go. Do I really give a crap if I don't get a text while driving? Not really. We'll see, though. If I can make it work, I'm done letting these bastards rob me. I usually pay full price for my phones anyway.

Oo yeah I forgot to mention that AT&T is going to discontinue activation of customer owned equipment at no contract. You won't be able to activate a phone that you own with no contract. They are basically going to force people to be on contracts.
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I'm probably jumping to Verizon so my wife can get an Iphone later in the year. We have three lines and one doesn't use data so that will make things actually cheaper for us because my wife has a discount through Verizon (I currently have one on SPrint)
The other thing that interests me is the Unlimited Data only plans through Tmobile. They are only 50 dollars a month and I'm wondering how good calls through Google Voice would be...if the quality isn't that bad I could just use that (since they now let you port your number to them)

Tuffgong4 said:
I'm probably jumping to Verizon so my wife can get an Iphone later in the year. We have three lines and one doesn't use data so that will make things actually cheaper for us because my wife has a discount through Verizon (I currently have one on SPrint)
The other thing that interests me is the Unlimited Data only plans through Tmobile. They are only 50 dollars a month and I'm wondering how good calls through Google Voice would be...if the quality isn't that bad I could just use that (since they now let you port your number to them)
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Oh **** yeah very good idea.. using tmobiles VOIP... Interesting.
I luckily get a 25 or 27% discount thru sprint. I cannot remember which one it is. Gotta love job discounts.

I have been with Sprint for 10 years. I am ready to purchase a 4G device. It is between the Evo4g on Sprint & the myPhone 4G with T-Mobile. Based on the device, and reception/coverage area will dictate which carrier I go to. The price point is basically the same. About $10 per month more with Sprint.
T-Mobile is an unknown regarding coverage and Sprint is a known.
I had 2 lines on a Free & Clear, but to switch to a 4g, I would lose that plan, and I would have to drop the 2nd line as no plan available by Sprint for 2 lines is cost effective for me. Neither is one available from T-mobile.
After 10 years, I really have no allegiance to Sprint as Allegiance with any Company these days is non existent, for me anyway, and from them to me, and others for that fact.
BUT I have read that T-Mobile may be locking their devices regarding tethering, as they are charging $!4.99/mo as of now, and may lock the devices for free tethering. I don't tether often, but I would like the option to do so.
Sprint charges the $10 surcharge for the privilege.

Doesnt really matter to me, only thing im waiting to see is if Verizon is going to put a data cap on their LTE for their smartphones. If they dont im ghost.

Why brah? Sprint doesnt... Or are you chasing the new phones merely.

I'd assume this is because LTE is faster and from what I gather has a more promising future.. probably coverage expansion will be better, etc.
Wouldn't count on avoiding a cap though, and F if i'm going to pay what vzw wants for "unlimited" as compared to sprint.
Where I work and spend a huge chunk of my life these days, I get full 4G and use it to tether all my computers, more than fast enough for what I need, and I think staying with this contract will be smart over time. As long as all these companies continue their greedy practices, the value of the plan I'm on will continue to get better IMO.
When I'm month to month in a year and a half paying what I'm paying now for unlimited, I bet I won't want to switch. I'm not that concerned about getting a new phone.. I tend to hold onto my phones for a pretty long time anyway. With the dev support the EVO has (and considering it does everything I want & more anyway) I think I can get a lot of mileage out of my current situation. If I really decide I NEED a new phone somewhere down the line, I'll buy it outright and stick with what will be a cheap plan at that point
brownhornet said:
Doesnt really matter to me, only thing im waiting to see is if Verizon is going to put a data cap on their LTE for their smartphones. If they dont im ghost.
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Tuffgong4 said:
I'm probably jumping to Verizon so my wife can get an Iphone later in the year. We have three lines and one doesn't use data so that will make things actually cheaper for us because my wife has a discount through Verizon (I currently have one on SPrint)
The other thing that interests me is the Unlimited Data only plans through Tmobile. They are only 50 dollars a month and I'm wondering how good calls through Google Voice would be...if the quality isn't that bad I could just use that (since they now let you port your number to them)
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Google Voice doesn't do VOIP on phones. Right now all it does is re routes your calls through to your GV number. There are solutions that use third party VOIP services but they aren't super reliable.
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GV only supports CONUS

Guys i hate to say but I think these companies have us by the balls... I would think there has to be some kind of regulation implemented.

mroneeyedboh said:
Guys i hate to say but I think these companies have us by the balls... I would think there has to be some kind of regulation implemented.
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It's just a matter of more people using the network costs go up
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No price change t-mobile

T-Mobile released a statement that contracts will not change in a year(when att takes over) as long as you have sign one before then.
http://tinyurl.com/4o46cfb
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That is stupid.
Tmo sold, who do they think they are to dictate that nothing will change ?
Are you really that naive ?

Agreed, don't be so naive.
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That is stupid.
Tmo sold, who do they think they are to dictate that nothing will change ?
Are you really that naive ?
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I have to agree, you shouldn't be so naive. Chances are to avoid any trouble they will honor all existing contracts, but what happens to people that are not in a contract?
What happens to those of us who are month to month? Chances are At&t will force us to switch to a new rate plan and give us a few months to do so before they cut us off completely.

Wow. Such hate for AT&T. I don't get it.
I had been a happy customer of theirs for more than 2 decades (Original AT&T Wireless -> Cingular -> AT&T). My plan from the original ATT Wireless was grandfathered in and survived two corporate takeovers. In other words, I was out of contract more than 10 years ago and they never forced me to upgrade or change.
The only reason I switched to T-Mo is the phone and price. I needed a new plan since I could NOT get data into my grandfathered plan. AT&T had really expensive pricing for data, so we switched.
I am actually looking forward to going back. AT&T service was and is really professional. (Cingular's was NOT).
Disclaimer, I do NOT work for them, and I own no AT&T stock. Just stating my own direct experience.

anandneemish said:
AT&T service was and is really professional. (Cingular's was NOT).
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My wife and I have logged many hours with AT&T's support voice menus, scripts, learned the thick accents, and have many of the responses memorized. I get paid quite well by the hour and it insults me why I should pay to get the runaround by thick layers of departments for which AT&T is famous.
I was a happy Cingular customer. AT&T bought them. I left for obvious reasons. Now I'm with Tmobile. My recent experience with AT&T over Uverse (oh what could possibly go wrong...today?) is likely an indicator of what I can expect yet again. It took 6 technicians from AT&T to finally replace a cable of a wrong impedance (I may have an BSEE, but its highly counterproductive talking to scripted tech support who will punish scientific arguments.) No thanks. Can you feel the hate dripping?
The Death Star strikes again. Crushing the rebel forces one by one...

No price change until:
A) you need a new contract
B) you are not under contract
C) when you want to add a feature not included in your contract
D) ATT decides to cancel your current plan and offers you a new plan will less features for the same money.
I agree with the approve poster... there will be a GSM monopoly. GSM is a requisite for all international travelers.
Oh Ma Bell, the irony.

SamsungVibrant said:
What happens to those of us who are month to month? Chances are At&t will force us to switch to a new rate plan and give us a few months to do so before they cut us off completely.
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This. My credit sucks. If I think what may happen actually happens, there goes my only chance of actually having service for my beautiful cellphone, unless I go to cricket, which makes me vomit just thinking about using a huawei. Im scared.
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The only reason I switched to T-Mo is the phone and price. I needed a new plan since I could NOT get data into my grandfathered plan. AT&T had really expensive pricing for data, so we switched.
Maybe this is not hate but it sure is not love either. Just saying

Guys, you shouldn't worry about pricing.
1. AT&T may have paid for it, but they don't completely own it until the DOJ and FCC do what they need to do. They can still deny it.
2. AT&T wouldn't be dumb enough to piss off current T-Mobile customers to the point where they cancel their contracts, I mean they did just shell out $25 billion in cash (+ $14 billion in stocks or something) for the company, they wouldn't risk losing all of the profit right away.

Plans will be grandfathered. That's a fact. I've worked for the blue devil and they are good on that note. However how will this affect upcoming android phones? With all their sideloading app crappy. Smh. Sprint may be my last resort. I may work for them but I do loathe them..
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I'm very worried about this. Granted, it may be some time before these changes actually take effect, but I for one do not currently have a contract, and that is the sole reason I switched from at&t to tmo. Now after purchasing 4 phones at full price so that I could keep my cheaper monthly rate, I'm fairly certain that at&t is going to force me to go with one of their plans. I like my unlimited data for 25 bucks a month. Will at&t do that for me? Past experience says a hearty, resounding, "no".
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Well it looks like if you stay with ATT/T-Mobile, you will have to get a new handset due to the AWS spectrum.
http://tinyurl.com/67f7osl
Mazz

Mazz35 said:
Well it looks like if you stay with ATT/T-Mobile, you will have to get a new handset due to the AWS spectrum.
http://tinyurl.com/67f7osl
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Not for those of us with Vibrants since they are capable of both AWS spectrums.

AT&T giving a twelve month window for the merger to take place is extremely optimistic. Maybe if the FCC and justice department was put in place by the GOP. We are probably looking at 16-18 months for approval given Ma Bell's monopoly history.
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Longcat14 said:
Guys, you shouldn't worry about pricing.
1. AT&T may have paid for it, but they don't completely own it until the DOJ and FCC do what they need to do. They can still deny it.
2. AT&T wouldn't be dumb enough to piss off current T-Mobile customers to the point where they cancel their contracts, I mean they did just shell out $25 billion in cash (+ $14 billion in stocks or something) for the company, they wouldn't risk losing all of the profit right away.
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AT&T is not so much after the T-Mobile business or customers, it is more desirous of the T-Mobile AWS spectrum. See Confirmed:
AT&T wants to use T-Mobile's AWS spectrum for LTE buildout" over on Engadget. AT&T have proved over and over again they could not care less about customers. So do I think they would be foolish enough to "piss off" T-Mobile customers? Sure in fact many of the T-Mobile current customers have already been "pissed off" by AT&T and are on TMO because of that!

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Not for those of us with Vibrants since they are capable of both AWS spectrums.
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Ok... good to know that. I was a bit worried after reading that.

Mazz35 said:
Well it looks like if you stay with ATT/T-Mobile, you will have to get a new handset due to the AWS spectrum.
http://tinyurl.com/67f7osl
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It does appear to be that way. I had planned on purchasing on upgrade the LG G2X and the new lg tablet but now it is up in the air. What a time for T mobile to spring this. I got away from AT&T 14 years ago(have been with T Mobile the whole time) and do not want their level of service and pricing again. I guess Verizon is about the only choice for me as I certainly do not want Sprint. I wonder if T mobile will continue to roll out some of the new phones from LG one of which is rumored to be Vanilla android, or will this just coast till the deal is completely done.

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Guys, you shouldn't worry about pricing.
1. AT&T may have paid for it, but they don't completely own it until the DOJ and FCC do what they need to do. They can still deny it.
2. AT&T wouldn't be dumb enough to piss off current T-Mobile customers to the point where they cancel their contracts, I mean they did just shell out $25 billion in cash (+ $14 billion in stocks or something) for the company, they wouldn't risk losing all of the profit right away.
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Well, you never know. From my assumption, they only purchased T-Mobile for their 4G towers, they are going to use the existing ones to boost their own 4G LTE network to most of the country (and by most, I mean like 97 percent) including rural areas. Head over to Engadget, what might happen in one year might be interesting.. I am definitely not a fan of AT&T but theoretically their plan seems solid.
Just my ideas on it. Take them as you want..

Grandfathered
I'm just wondering just how long AT&T is going to allow my the TMO unlimited calling, unlimited data, $10 HotSpot plan to stay in force? Debating on riding out existing contract and then updating to Vibrant 4G and re-up before they stick it to me....or maybe that will be too late because it'll already be under AT&Ts BS data contracts.
I was with AT&T for years until they made it clear they could care less if I stayed with them or not. They would offer you the world to switch but if you were already a customer, they wouldn't offer you squat to reup.
The only good news potentially is that TMO has notoriously bad reception in rural areas (in Texas anyway) where AT&T is much better.

Longcat14 said:
Guys, you shouldn't worry about pricing.
1. AT&T may have paid for it, but they don't completely own it until the DOJ and FCC do what they need to do. They can still deny it.
2. AT&T wouldn't be dumb enough to piss off current T-Mobile customers to the point where they cancel their contracts, I mean they did just shell out $25 billion in cash (+ $14 billion in stocks or something) for the company, they wouldn't risk losing all of the profit right away.
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The USA will approve AT&T's buyout. AT&T says yes when Tmobile says no to unlimited government wiretapping. With Tmobile, they always say, "sorry" when records or access is wanted. The green light for this was long in the works.

Verizon force removing grandfathered "Unlimited Data"

I should have posted this two months ago when I found out, but got lazy. The now $30 fee reminded me and I decided I should pass the info along. I had a conversation with:
Handsets, Product Distribution, Business
Brenda Raney
908-559-7518
[email protected]
This conversation was about the NFC blocking but I baited her with a comment and she responded by saying something along the lines of "Unlimited Data would no longer be an option on "Advanced" handsets released later this year (2012). When you upgrade to one of these new "Advanced" (IE Smartphone) you will have to give up your unlimited data plan and pick a paid package."
She would not tell me when it would happen, but said that Verizon was not under any obligation to continue to grandfather people with unlimited data. I fully expect this to happen as soon as Quad Core phones hit the market.
Just one more drop in the bucket. Removing unlimited data packages for new subscribers, removing early upgrades, every two discounts, blocking Google from releasing direct updates for developer devices like the Galaxy Nexus, and now the $30 upgrade fee.
No, I did not record the phone conversation but the removal of grandfathered unlimited data will happen, and sooner then later. Feel free to chalk it up to a rumor if you don't believe me but when it happens, don't say I didn't warn you.

New Verizon devices use Sim cards, welcome to the world of buying off contract devices.

I wonder if this will let you break contract.

I Am Marino said:
I wonder if this will let you break contract.
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Sounds like it would to me

It seems like something they would do. I think I know there "plan" to get every one off unlimited data.
I have herd some things, but not like this. I think this is about spot on.
Now I will hold on to both of my unlimited data for dear life.
Edit: yes they do throttle 4G and will be doing more and more intill the next iphone and then will pull an AT&T X2. They will likely force you out of unlimited when you upgrade or if you you are on a "old" 4G phone they will throttle you on 4GLTE. I know, becuase I was throttled on 4G and then I stoped using the phone for 3 days, now I am unthrottled and sit at 90+hours of uptime with 2GB of use.
Link to some one who got throttled on 4G:http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-Verizon-throttling-4G-speeds-too_id22818
Now he did use a crap load of data and I think he got what was coming, but I know when the new iphone with LTE comes out, WE ARE DOOMED. I have a 2nd line with unlimited data on AT&T, thats my back up plan. If not oh well.

Once again Verizon showing how little they care about their customers. From a legal standpoint they could probably do this because when you get a new phone you are under a new contract. But what if you buy the phone from ebay, etc and just add it to your plan. You are still technically under the same contract but they could track ESNs and force your plan to switch.

I hope they don't do this. I just left att after months of looking to take over someones Verizon contract. I found a person with 2 unlimited lines hopefully its not short lived. I really don't want to go to sprint
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Dark lord me said:
New Verizon devices use Sim cards, welcome to the world of buying off contract devices.
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Verizon is CDMA only. The SIM cards are used for LTE, not GSM (a few phones have SIM slots for international GSM, but they're useless while on the Verizon network). So no, there is no buying of unlocked phones from Verizon.
Speaking of this, in China and other Asian countries, CDMA devices have SIM cards called R-UIM cards that work exactly the same way as GSM SIM cards, but CDMA carriers here in the US want to be able to stranglehold you in terms of what kinds of phone you use.

Hopefully Sprint still has unlimited data and their act together when my current contract is up in two years. Verizon charges an arm and a leg for their services and it's not enough? They have to nickel and dime us every step of the way. Aside from decent service I can't say that I feel like I get a whole lot for my money with Verizon. I've just had enough bad experiences with AT&T, and Sprint that I've been afraid to go back to either of them. Maybe it's not so bad these days?

I hope so too, becuase I need a 3rd back up plan and for every one elses sake.
My experience with AT&T has been very good, but I don't think that would be true if I was locked in for 2 years. Sprint has really come up in the last year or so and they seem like they are upgrading fast. (NV and LTE)

Not surprising in the least. Sprint will have to soon end too and remove grandfathered unlimited. Aside from that though, thanks for this update.

I wouldn't read a ton into all this stuff. And I don't know how good of an idea it is to publish someones personal/professional contact info for them on any forum...
I worked with verizon for a while, and on a daily basis I was upgrading phones and allowing customers to keep these 5 or 6 year old alltel rate plans.
It is absolutely correct that verizon can remove unlimited from grandfathered accounts if it wants to, but verizon's course of action with old alltel plans and the like, suggest that it won't happen.
I'm not saying it will or wont happen, all I'm saying is that its definitely possible that they will allow you to keep unlimited data, as long as you are playing nice and not DLing 100 gb's a month on their network.

I love all the misinformation, conjecture, an the posting of a professional email, signs of the derogation of society.
First: Yes VZW is charging an upgade fee. To say everyone is doing it is a cop out. To say that they are loosing money on equipment subsidies is true and the fee helps recap som of the cost while keeping prices competitive even with their own indirect partners.
Second, the only time you can loose a grandfathered plan per contractual agreement is a) older Altel devices that upgrade or change devices because there is no longer an Altel contract. b) you change to a basic (from smart) phone for over 30 days or c) you agree to it.
There are no exceptions to the three listed above. Don't believe me: 1800-922-0204 and ask for the loyalty department.

I love all the verizon fan boys who think they are the best and they would NEVER pull some thing over them like: taking away unlimited data, THROTTLING or the $30 "upgrade" fee.
The contract only lets you keep grandfathered plan's for the lenth of time you signed up for (AKA 2 years) and then They can make you sign a new contract with out unlimited data if you want to upgrade and if you don't upgrade, then they can just take it away.
Why is so easy for me to type this you may ask? Becuase they throttled me at 12Gb and now I can't go over about 10-15gb with out ricking this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbvDEewcJU&feature=channel&list=UL
P.S I sit at 65GB on AT&T and no throttling. Eat that verizon

I really came in under the wire on this one. I upgraded about three months ago; still have my unlimited data. I never really understood why providers are simply eliminating unlimited plans rather than charging exorbitant amounts of money which plenty of people would pay.

do you expect anything less of Verizon?

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do you expect anything less of Verizon?
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Nope, this is what I think they will do. They are thinking about razing the price up as well to get every one off of it, like AT&T did the $20 unlimited to 30, but with more kick. I have herd every thing from 30 going up to 50, all the way to it replacing the 20GB plan.
Any way: They are going to do some thing soon and well I will just say it's not likely going to be good.

boosterp said:
I love all the misinformation, conjecture, an the posting of a professional email, signs of the derogation of society.
First: Yes VZW is charging an upgade fee. To say everyone is doing it is a cop out. To say that they are loosing money on equipment subsidies is true and the fee helps recap som of the cost while keeping prices competitive even with their own indirect partners.
Second, the only time you can loose a grandfathered plan per contractual agreement is a) older Altel devices that upgrade or change devices because there is no longer an Altel contract. b) you change to a basic (from smart) phone for over 30 days or c) you agree to it.
There are no exceptions to the three listed above. Don't believe me: 1800-922-0204 and ask for the loyalty department.
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Pretty much the exact thing I heard when I called them a few weeks ago. I've been out of a contract for almost 6 years now (just lucky that my phone breaks when they dont have any more and get a free upgrade). I currently have a HTC Trophy with Windows Phone 7 and dont have a newer one because they have not gotten newer WP7 devices, YET.
I called them up and was asking on new devices and presented them with the same question. According to Verizon, I can buy a new Smartphone today, sign a new 2 year agreement and I still will not lose my unlimited data plan according to them.
Of course the day I do it, that will be my first question and will ask for it in writing

As of this moment you are not forced off of your unlimited plan when upgrading phones or switching between current phones
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I wouldn't read a ton into all this stuff. And I don't know how good of an idea it is to publish someones personal/professional contact info for them on any forum...
I worked with verizon for a while, and on a daily basis I was upgrading phones and allowing customers to keep these 5 or 6 year old alltel rate plans.
It is absolutely correct that verizon can remove unlimited from grandfathered accounts if it wants to, but verizon's course of action with old alltel plans and the like, suggest that it won't happen.
I'm not saying it will or wont happen, all I'm saying is that its definitely possible that they will allow you to keep unlimited data, as long as you are playing nice and not DLing 100 gb's a month on their network.
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So it's ok for Verizon to publish her information on their public website, but not for me to copy and paste it from that site to this one? I will edit this post later to provid the direct link to Verizon's corporate PUBLIC website that lists this PUBLIC information. As a "former Verizon employee" you should know all about their public site and what's listed on it. Even if it wasn't Verizon does not respect its customers so I have no respect for their employees at the upper level management.
I will get you that link tomorrow (today really, but later). My nephew is having a bad night teething and is co sleeping next to me so this post is on my device not a pc or I would do it now.
Fyi I have never gone over 5gb on my cell. I don't abuse my unlimited. Oh and I am rooted and can tether for free. Not everyone deserves to be ppunished for the crimes of a few. Wish VZW would figure that out but in reality people abusing unlimited is just an excuse to increase profits, which gets their CEO a bigger bonus. It's all about the money. Corporate Greed.

t-mobile to sprint

I'm currently on sprint and my wife's friend has a T-Mobile s7 edge she never used or activated is it possible to switch the phone from T-Mobile to sprint? Thanks for the help

flash the sprint firmware or the U.S unlocked firmware however sprint is a complete jerk with outside phones so don't get your hopes up. Id stick with T-Mobile if I were you because there is nothing good about Sprint whatsoever

Willanderx2 said:
flash the sprint firmware or the U.S unlocked firmware however sprint is a complete jerk with outside phones so don't get your hopes up. Id stick with T-Mobile if I were you because there is nothing good about Sprint whatsoever
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I agree. I can't say anything good about sprint other than it's cheap.

funny, my T-mobile experience was terrible. Like really really terrible and my sprint experience has been great. My only problems with sprint have come up when trying to get a new phone. Some system glitch or what not happens. I've gotten tons of credits and other things tho because of it.
T-mobile support was extremely terrible. They had a tower go out near my work, spent weeks and weeks calling them and trying to get them to investigate. "Our engineers remotely verified the tower is fine." I finally left because of that. Heard a couple months later they admitted to their local customers the tower had been out...idiots.
If you want service that only works outside on a bright sunny day, go with tmobile. The moment you walk inside a building, don't expect to have service. Was my experience anyway.
If I left Sprint I'd go to Verizon before anyone else. $130 for unlimited everything and a phone lease and insurance (S8+ I priced out) vs I will be paying just about $100 a month for sprint for same features. Counting my sprint discount, did not count my verizon discount in pricing.