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So sad...

Sadly, I lost my phone this weekend... a friend called it and got someone who said they found it, but didn't get their # or anything, and now my phone's battery is obviously dead.
Wish i could track it's gps position for the weekend... i want my phone back! anyone have a spare I could buy? i just got 6.1 on it too...

did you have your owner info filled out?..

Berserk87 said:
did you have your owner info filled out?..
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Good question. I was flashing the ROM so many times this week, I don't know!!!

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Good question. I was flashing the ROM so many times this week, I don't know!!!
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so then the question remains... if you had a chance to do it all over agian would you?
would you get the same phone? or one of the newer phones out now?

That is the question! I feel so locked in by Sprint's SERO program, that it is difficult to leave for ATT for example. The 1200min +unlimited text and unlimited internet for $59/mo. I would like the extra RAM in the Kaiser though (and SIM cards are great so you can change phones every day). What has come out since the Kaiser?

I'm in your boat too. I like my Mogul, but I'm not convinced. I've had it for almost 3 weeks of my trial period. I've already had to replace one handset because the scroll wheel froze up and wouldn't budge. Now, my replacement has a really light spot on the screen. I'm tempted to get a Touch over a 3rd Mogul in 3 weeks. Anyone think that is a good idea?

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I'm in your boat too. I like my Mogul, but I'm not convinced. I've had it for almost 3 weeks of my trial period. I've already had to replace one handset because the scroll wheel froze up and wouldn't budge. Now, my replacement has a really light spot on the screen. I'm tempted to get a Touch over a 3rd Mogul in 3 weeks. Anyone think that is a good idea?
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Depends on what you're looking for. Personally, I would go nuts with the Touch. I hate the fact it doesn't have a keyboard and has very few hardware buttons. I'm not into having everything on the touch screen. I prefer hardware buttons I can find by feel so I can keep my eyes focused on what I'm doing.

MUST SEE!!

OK here goes. First off Im no developer but thi seems to be where this should be posted. Now I know its hard to believe what im about to say but as soon as the thing gets here 2nite im posting pics and video. Anyway. My buddy stopped by this morning and had a 16g iPhone , pretty sure it was 16. At first Ithought he had bought an ipod but when he told me he paid almost 750$ for it and it was a phone I knew he just waisted hs money seeing as we have ONLY Alltel in our area. But he blew my mind. He called my phone from it. I was amazed. This is where it gets crazy. I checked it out and its insane!
When you power it on it goes to a back screen with "ver1" & "ver2" written in white. If you tap ver1 it goes black 4 about 13 seconds and then pops up a silver apple style wallpaper with a "loading" bar in red across the screen. After around 11 seconds the iPhone home screen kind of fades in the screen. My first thought was FAKE!!! But Ive messed with a real iPhone enough to know this was THE one and only iPhone. I stared at it for almost 2 hours just checking out every single detail there was. There are a couple things in question here:
iTunes was nowhere to be found period. NO WHERE! Why, dont ask me!
Also there were a couple of settings that were useless to Alltel.
​Probaly a couple other things but nothing so significant for a non experienced tech to notice. But every app i tried, along with the internet and phone worked without a single glitch! I was so into it
I forgot about tha "ver2" Choice till he reminded me. So I killed the power and done the same thing with my other choice (how long it takes to cut on was the only thing that i noticed that may be a downside, but once its on youd never remember!) and right off i knew something weird was up because my buddy had that "HA HA bio**CH" loook. Anyway, it went black for around 12 or 13 seconds just like the first time. Then the same "loading" bar came up but on a green and blue wallpaper. When it finished after about 20 sec, significantly longer, it blew my mind!
The same windows mobile start up screen that is on my htc touch was on an iPhone !!! NO WAY!!!! Thats what i thought Too!!! after that instead of the alltel animation im used to seeing on my htc touch there was an animation of an earth spinning with some rotating rings. it lasted about 7 sec and then pops up a 4 button version of the htc home plug. i about passed out. it was my touch on an iphone! Needless to say iwent thru every nook and cranny, run and tested every app & Feature and function from internet to axcess apps, from the dialer to the home plug functions. And every single thing worked perfect! NOT ONE lockup, or connection loss. T
he only thing I didnt check was bluetooth or internet sharing. He explained to me about getting alltel to hook it up. he called them 7 times. The first 6 refused to do it on his pre existing account. Finally the last guy tried it and it worked. He tried to do the *228 programming /activation call twice thru the iphone section and it didnt work for some reason. But on first attempt thru htc dialer it started workin. I knew it had 2 be a fake. but even if it was the performance w is twice that of my touch. But when I told him that he actually called apple tech support and this thing really did start out as and is still partially a true Apple iPhone. Also the thing come with the original box and acceories. It came with I believe 6 manuals. 2 for a touch one sorta iphone quick guide a custom instruction book with around 20 pages and I cant remember the other. inside the custom one it lists two serial #'s.. The one on the phone(original ) & one listed as mobile serial/hex number(the one he gave alltel.
He got the thing 3 days ago while on vacation at a small pc store just outside panama city florida i think he said. The guy told him its the only one he made, and that it will work 4 and gsm or cdma service but we have absolutely no gsm service around here so we cant check that. But like i said im no tech. no where close. hes not either. so i dont know how this is even remotely possible! I've set & played with it for at least 6 hours today and still dont believe it anymore than i believe santa will bring me a wm7 upgrade for xmas but this thing is real. and its the most amazing ppc ive ever seen. its the best of both worlds. it not went unused for more than 5 min in three days and it locked up on the htc stuff 1 time. by the way it doesnt have the 3d cube either. but som freeware has already been downloaded and works so im guessing everthing will.
N e way. Hes willing to work something out and send it to an extremely talented and hopefully trustworthy tech (U.S. ONLY) 2 see if they could figure this thing out and maybe make it possible for others. I want one bad!
If your up to it post a reply and ill give you my contact info and we'll get it to you. For everyone else there will be craploads of pics and videos posted 2nite or first thing in the morning. Just waitin on dude 2 get off work. Dont ask for the stores name unless your flat out interested in being the one 2 tackle this thing. They had only 1 anyway as the owners own personal project so hopefully someone can fig this out. FAKE is not a choice as im now 210% sure its a ligit iphone after the customer serv. chat. So please guys, need some help here. INPUT INPUT INPUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nobody will read your god forsaken post.
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nobody's going to read this god forsaken post either.

holy cow..looking at that for more than a minute hurts my eyes, what the guy above me said!

I've read
OK here goes. First off Im no developer but thi seems to be where this should be ...... blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,...........blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,blá.
INPUT INPUT INPUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Make it sticky please ......

well i read it. its about an iphone that seems to run osx AND windows mobile through 2 separate paths without ANY problems. well im not believing it, since there isnt even a virtualizer 4 osx out there...and reprogramming from scratch is quite impossible. he promised us pictures...well, i hope for a video that shows us the functions (the menu for ver1 and ver2 for example)

I just read all of that and the long and short of it is his mate has brought an iphone that has a bootloader at startup where version one brings up the apple OS and selecting version 2 brings up WM.
After checking through all of the apps OP claims it appears to be all genuine and his mate is interested in sending off the phone to a US techie to rip it apart and find out how this was all done

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Make it sticky please ......
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i second that

jpl69 said:
OK here goes. First off Im no developer but thi seems to be where this should be ...... blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,...........blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,blá,blá.
INPUT INPUT INPUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mdrrrrrrrr

Man... I took the time to actually read all that, maybe you should've made it a little shorter eyh But if what you tell is true, I'd sure like to get a hold of one, come up with the screenies...

I couldn't read it all the way through as I'm not paid by xda devs yet.
I think it's more likely to be the iphoney that runs on windows ce. Looks like an iphone but isn't.

What about the tocuh flo?
How about the touch flow? I cant imagine WM6 on an iPhone with the same amount of touch functinality. You didnt mention that.

i smell a HIPHONE.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6099350854411826713&q=hiphone&ei=ccwQSKv6CIqUrgLV4cS4BA

My problem with this is that as far as I know, there is no WM device with the same screen/screen driver set, and the iPhone "OS X" uses a different kind of driver system and so it's unlikely to be a true iPhone...

t.Kilgore86 said:
OK here goes. First off Im no developer but this seems to be where this should be posted. Now I know its hard to believe what i'm about to say but as soon as the thing gets here tonite i'm posting pics and video.
Anyway. My buddy stopped by this morning and had a 16g iPhone , pretty sure it was 16. At first I thought he had bought an ipod but when he told me he paid almost 750$ for it and it was a phone I knew he just waisted his money seeing as we have ONLY Alltel in our area. But he blew my mind. He called my phone from it. I was amazed. This is where it gets crazy. I checked it out and its insane! When you power it on it goes to a back screen with "ver1" & "ver2" written in white. If you tap ver1 it goes black 4 about 13 seconds and then pops up a silver apple style wallpaper with a "loading" bar in red across the screen. After around 11 seconds the iPhone home screen kind of fades in the screen.
My first thought was FAKE!!! But Ive messed with a real iPhone enough to know this was THE one and only iPhone. I stared at it for almost 2 hours just checking out every single detail there was. There are a couple things in question here. iTunes was no were to be found period. NO WHERE! Why, don't ask me! Also there were a couple of settings that were useless to Alltel. Probably a couple other things but nothing so significant for a non experienced tech to notice. But every app i tried, along with the internet and phone worked without a single glitch!
I was so into it I forgot about tha "ver2" Choice till he reminded me. So I killed the power and done the same thing with my other choice (how long it takes to cut on was the only thing that i noticed that may be a downside, but once its on you'd never remember!) and right off i knew something weird was up because my buddy had that "HA HA bio**CH" loook. Anyway, it went black for around 12 or 13 seconds just like the first time. Then the same "loading" bar came up but on a green and blue wallpaper. When it finished after about 20 sec, significantly longer, it blew my mind! The same windows mobile start up screen that is on my htc touch was on an iPhone
!!! NO WAY!!!!
Thats what i thought Too!!! after that instead of the alltel animation i'm used to seeing on my htc touch there was an animation of an earth spinning with some rotating rings. it lasted about 7 sec and then pops up a 4 button version of the htc home plug. i about passed out. it was my touch on an iphone! Needless to say i went thru every nook and cranny, run and tested every app & Feature and function from internet to access apps, from the dialer to the home plug functions. And every single thing worked perfect! NOT ONE lockup, or connection loss. The only thing I didnt check was bluetooth or internet sharing.
He explained to me about getting alltel to hook it up. he called them 7 times. The first 6 refused to do it on his pre existing account. Finally the last guy tried it and it worked. He tried to do the *228 programming /activation call twice thru the iphone section and it didnt work for some reason. But on first attempt thru htc dialer it started workin. I knew it had 2 be a fake. but even if it was the performance is twice that of my touch. But when I told him that he actually called apple tech support and this thing really did start out as and is still partially a true Apple iPhone.
Also the thing come with the original box and accessories. It came with I believe 6 manuals. 2 for a touch one sorta iphone quick guide a custom instruction book with around 20 pages and I cant remember the other. inside the custom one it lists two serial #'s.. The one on the phone(original ) & one listed as mobile serial/hex number(the one he gave alltel. He got the thing 3 days ago while on vacation at a small pc store just outside panama city Florida i think he said. The guy told him its the only one he made, and that it will work 4 and gsm or cdma service but we have absolutely no gsm service around here so we cant check that. But like i said i'm no tech. no where close. hes not either. so i don't know how this is even remotely possible!
I've set & played with it for at least 6 hours today and still don't believe it anymore than i believe santa will bring me a wm7 upgrade for xmas but this thing is real. and its the most amazing ppc i've ever seen. its the best of both worlds. it not went unused for more than 5 min in three days and it locked up on the htc stuff 1 time.
by the way it doesnt have the 3d cube either. but som freeware has already been downloaded and works so im guessing everthing will. N e way. Hes willing to work something out and send it to an extremely talented and hopefully trustworthy tech (U.S. ONLY) 2 see if they could figure this thing out and maybe make it possible for others. I want one bad! If your up to it post a reply and ill give you my contact info and we'll get it to you. For everyone else there will be craploads of pics and videos posted 2nite or first thing in the morning. Just waitin on dude 2 get off work.
Don't ask for the stores name unless your flat out interested in being the one 2 tackle this thing. They had only 1 anyway as the owners own personal project so hopefully someone can fig this out. FAKE is not a choice as im now 210% sure its a legit iphone after the customer service. chat. So please guys, need some help here. INPUT INPUT INPUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry, Had to try!

thx for trying

Pretty sure I have a headache now Ha!!!

pretty sure it is the chinese ripoff of the iPhone, as far as I can see, the touchscreen is big, true, but doesnt look as sensitive as the iPhone would be...it also looks like someone decided to redesign a phone with WM6, and steal some apps for xda and put it on the phone

Don't feel like reading it. Cliff note?

WING2

has any one seen the pictures of the wing 2?
looks awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwkqX43M38A
2:12
just wanted to know what everyone thinks

o and the G2 also

If that really is the new wing then it's awesome really glad they didn't take the keyboard out and make it full touch like the G2 I love my keyboard, I love the color also but I hope they give us more color options this time around .

hopefully the wing2 will be 3g

hopefully that is not the wing 2. i really would not be able to use it with out soft keys and a dpad. but i my contract expires i am guessing right when it comes out.

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hopefully that is not the wing 2. i really would not be able to use it with out soft keys and a dpad. but i my contract expires i am guessing right when it comes out.
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I agree with the hardware button need. But unfortunately newer devices are all going a clean look. I would even go as far as to say iphone-ish (not a fan myself). But after trying the Touch Pro with hardware softkeys and D-Pad I realize I would rather not have them instead of fighting with the touch capabilities on the controls. The d-pad will be sincerely missed for navigating and game play.
Damn I hope a T-Mobile US Wing replacement comes soon.

yeah, i think this all touch screen thing will phase out eventually. I will miss the dpad to. But i think phone makers will bring them back after a while. And i cant wait to get the wing2. But i just got a new wing thanks to my insurance! So right now im good. Tmobile needs to catch up and release some real phones! Windows phone all the way!

thinking about getting the nexus one

hey guys. i'm on att and i am thinking about getting a nexus one in the near future. after reading this article from engadget, i am a bit skeptical now. do these 3g problems really only exist on tmobile's network? i heard that it could also be a hardware issue. will they be improving the hardware on later revisions of the nexus one? i would like to have feedback from people using the att 3g phone on att's 3g network. are you having an reception issues. etc.?
thanks

hey guys. i'm on att and i am thinking about getting a nexus one in the near future. after reading this article from engadget, i am a bit skeptical now. do these 3g problems really only exist on tmobile's network? i heard that it could also be a hardware issue. will they be improving the hardware on later revisions of the nexus one? i would like to have feedback from people using the att 3g phone on att's 3g network. are you having an reception issues. etc.?
thanks
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I have no reception issues nor 3g issues.
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

The only thing about the hardware, is that the radio is where the palm of your hand rests, while holding the phone.
If you already have good coverage in your area, you'll have no further issues.
If your coverage currently sucks, and you drop calls... Well, you really shouldn't be considering adding to your ATT contract anyway.
Just my $.02

I never have any problems. The thing that bugs me most about the nexus one is the dust under the screen. I don't want to send mine in because, I need a phone to use, and know I'll probably get a dusty phone back.

also in the earlier youtube review of the phone, many reviewers complained of the unresponsinve touch buttons. have those been fixed?

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also in the earlier youtube review of the phone, many reviewers complained of the unresponsinve touch buttons. have those been fixed?
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I myself am planning on getting this phone in 46 days (when my contract is up). I can answer this for everybody. Apparently you just have to know where to touch. If you touch the bottom of the "touch buttons", it doesn't register.. however if you touch the top of the button it does work most if not all of the time. Really once you get use to it, its no big deal.

The touch screen was never unresponsive, its just sensitive, this happens when the palm of your hand touches the bottom of the screen while you touch other parts of the screen, after buying a case for my phone, I never had the same problem again.
3G is a big issue with Tmobile users, like myself, my co worker however has ATT and never had problems with his 3G.
You'll love it
kevinf1990 said:
also in the earlier youtube review of the phone, many reviewers complained of the unresponsinve touch buttons. have those been fixed?
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rjhay22 said:
The touch screen was never unresponsive, its just sensitive, this happens when the palm of your hand touches the bottom of the screen while you touch other parts of the screen, after buying a case for my phone, I never had the same problem again.
3G is a big issue with Tmobile users, like myself, my co worker however has ATT and never had problems with his 3G.
You'll love it
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May I ask what case your using? I've been in the market for buying a case before ordering my Nexus One.

I have a lot of cases bro, lol, and all of em fixes the supposedly "screen issue" people are talking about
Here are some links:
http://www.googlenexusoneaccessories.com/cases.html
http://store.nexusoneforum.net/seidio-innocase-ii-surface/4A123A6392.htm
http://www.ultra-case.com/products_nexus_one.php?gclid=CKWXuLObnKECFQdZbAod3iunwg
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May I ask what case your using? I've been in the market for buying a case before ordering my Nexus One.
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i'm not talking abotu the screen though. i'm talking about the capacitive buttons on the bottom

rjhay22 said:
I have a lot of cases bro, lol, and all of em fixes the supposedly "screen issue" people are talking about
Here are some links:
http://www.googlenexusoneaccessories.com/cases.html
http://store.nexusoneforum.net/seidio-innocase-ii-surface/4A123A6392.htm
http://www.ultra-case.com/products_nexus_one.php?gclid=CKWXuLObnKECFQdZbAod3iunwg
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Thanks bro, much appeciated.
i'm not talking about the screen though. i'm talking about the capacitive buttons on the bottom
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I answered that question for you, its fine. You just tap the top of the capacitive button and it works.

If you are coming from another phone with capacitive touch buttons (ie Droid / Milestone), you will be really bothered for about a day while you adapt to the N1's touch buttons. After that, you'll forget about it completely.
For 3G, just try it and see if it works for you. Either return it or sell it - you will definitely find someone willing to take it off of your hands.

+1 true that.
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If you are coming from another phone with capacitive touch buttons (ie Droid / Milestone), you will be really bothered for about a day while you adapt to the N1's touch buttons. After that, you'll forget about it completely.
For 3G, just try it and see if it works for you. Either return it or sell it - you will definitely find someone willing to take it off of your hands.
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I myself am planning on getting this phone in 46 days (when my contract is up). I can answer this for everybody. Apparently you just have to know where to touch. If you touch the bottom of the "touch buttons", it doesn't register.. however if you touch the top of the button it does work most if not all of the time. Really once you get use to it, its no big deal.
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Yes, the capacitive buttons along the bottom of the screen only register touches along the top half of each label. It's strange, but if I had to guess why I would say that during testing Google/HTC found that they were accidentally triggering the buttons while using the trackball and probably moved the input pads up a bit to avoid this (a software change rather than hardware). But that is a complete guess on my part.
As for the 3G issues, the whole thing was blown out of proportion by tech sites looking for page hits.

Go for it! Nexus One rocks! /end shameless fanboy-ism
Just the facts...I did have issues initially, but nothing that a new ROM can't fix. Capacitive screen was overly sensitive, but toned down after flashing CM 5.0.5.3. I'd say it's even more accurate. Physical keyboards are for klutzy neanderthals.
Noticeable speed increase and better memory allocation for app use after flashing. Soft buttons below the screen are only registering on the top half of the icons...not a big deal but I can understand how someone can think there's something wrong with it and press harder (like I did). Oh yeah...no 3G issues here. Downloading 2.8mbps / uploading 1.5mbps on AT&T.
Doesn't take that much effort to fully customize N1 to meet your demands 100%. You can even do CPU-killing processes by running Pandora, Navigation, wifi-tethering, car dock bluetooth (on speakerphone), AND make a phone call....all at the same time. Snapdragon processor kicks a$$!

i like my nexus one but i do have the 3g problem. i live in vegas and while im downtown i get good signal but at my house, like 15mins away from the strip, my signal switches back and forth with EDGE and 3g, my touch pro 2 doesnt do this.

do you have tmobile or att

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do you have tmobile or att
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I'm curious to what he answers too. Anyway are you any closer to making a decision on what phone you want?
Originally I searched night and day to find out what the widget was that had the beautiful weather forcast when you turned on the phone. It was the same widget that had the windshield wipers when it was raining outside. Eventually I found my answer, its the htc sense home screen. I looked into htc sense further and I find it to be very ugly. So thats why I'm going with the nexus one over the htc desire, etc. Besides I have the old apk of beautiful widgets before htc told them to take it down (that has the same look and feel as htc sense). I know htc sense can be turned off but I still like the feel of the nexus one over desire and some of these other phones.
Thats my story.

i am pretty sure that i will be getting it but just when i have the money saved up. poor college student ftw haha. almost there though

kevinf1990 said:
i am pretty sure that i will be getting it but just when i have the money saved up. poor college student ftw haha. almost there though
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Cool, which one are you going with? The $500+ at&t one, the $500+ dollar t-mobile one, or the $180 contract t-mobile one?

Goodbye Omnia 7

Hey hey XDA. Ive been lurking for a good year or two and have never really had a need to post, but I felt it might be useful to share my experiences with the Omnia7. I got it almost after launch in the UK and was...slightly unimpressed. My love for the handset grew, however the technical issues also started to swell. Firstly I experienced the unresponsive home button issue and had the handset replaced twice due to screen issues. Secondly, the frame started to crack recently and trust me, I dont do anything with my handset to cause it to crack...nor do I bash it around causing the paint to flake off!a
Anyway, the final straw was yesterdays 'black screen of death'. I was using it as normal and put it in my pocket after class. I am walking home and go to check to the time only to find that it wouldnt respond. This is followed by a random reboot followed by a series of white lines flashing across the top of the screen...followed again by a load of pink and green dots appearing and disappearing. The phone reboots again and then works...only to repeat again. Add to this an OS which has yet to be given any sort of new lease of life beyond a bit of copy and paste...well...im saddened.
Orange were kind enough to send another one today but having reviewed my options, im afraid to say im jumping ship back to Android. I was under the impression that the Omnia 7 was a well built handset with a solid OS...but that doesnt seem to be the case. That or im incredibly unlucky. :/ Phone is heading straight to Amazon Marketplace in its shiny new packaging!
Anyway, thanks for providing lurker over here with some amazing advice. Just my two cents! Adios.

Sorry to hear that it didn't work out for you.
How much are you selling it for?

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I was under the impression that the Omnia 7 was a well built handset with a solid OS...but that doesnt seem to be the case. That or im incredibly unlucky. :/
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Believe me, you ARE incredibly unlucky. Most people agree this is the best WP7 out there and it's running very smoothly.

Peew971 said:
Believe me, you ARE incredibly unlucky. Most people agree this is the best WP7 out there and it's running very smoothly.
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Yeah it sucks that ive had zero luck with it. On a brighter note, im finally investing in an HD2 purely so I can get back to tinkering...so I might end up back with WP7, albeit in a modded form!

Ive listed it for £300 GBP. Its a bit less than what most people are selling them for however I want to sell quickly in order to get another phone. Im currently using a ghetto as all hell nokia and it pains me to use it :/

ohirome1 said:
Firstly I experienced the unresponsive home button issue..
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Sorry, but see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929460
The unresponsive issue is something people are confused about and think it's a handset problem. It's not, it's not responsive for a reason and that's when the sensor is covered! See the thread.
As for the other issues, I agree, that's crap luck by the sounds of it.
And dude, I agree with the poor effort from Microsoft regarding updates and copy and paste. I mean it's like they have ignored the competition and the things people really need on their devices. Copy and paste shouldn't be an update, it should of been there in the first place!
But with time, I believe WP7 will stand strong.