Unrootable? - G1 General

I could have sworn awhile back I saw a thread regarding certain builds not being rootable. I did some searching as well as checked the rooting thread and didn't see anything regarding it.
Am I losing my mind or is this true? Reason I am asking is a few of my keys on my phone are not functioning correctly. Seems to be more of a hardware issue since it just takes a slightly harder press to activate the key. Therefore, I am going to get a replacement and want to make sure that any and all bugs in rooting all of the builds has been fixed.
I'd rather have a few sticky buttons than an unrooted phone. Hopefully someone doesn't take 2 seconds and find the thread(s) I am referring to and make me look like a turd

If I wasn't so tired I would so make you look like a turd, but there are spls that have caused headaches to root but they are still able to eventually. Rogers actually just put a new spl on that is making it a little annoying but still able. If you are in the US though than we are still easy root happy for now

I am getting this problem! The bottom row of keys are unresponsive unless i push down hard

gridlock32404 said:
If I wasn't so tired I would so make you look like a turd, but there are spls that have caused headaches to root but they are still able to eventually. Rogers actually just put a new spl on that is making it a little annoying but still able. If you are in the US though than we are still easy root happy for now
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LOL... Thanks so much man. I'm a T-Mobile user so looks like I'm good. Appreciate the help!

brummiesteven said:
I am getting this problem! The bottom row of keys are unresponsive unless i push down hard
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most commonly moisture under the keys, and don't say "it's never been near water", you can get moisture damage from steam, sweat, condensation, you name it. easiest way to repair it would be dismantle the phone using one of the manuals somewhere on the forum, lift the cover over the keys, and you should see some small metal disks probably stuck to the cover. grab a fiberglass pencil, or a decent scrubbing utensil and basically polish them till shiney, same with the contacts on the keys themselves. make sure whatever you use to scrub is dry for obvious reasons. after that, carefully replace the cover making sure you lign up the keys propperly, and you should be all set.
either that or claim on insurance for a non-waranty voiding solution
-=edit=- also make sure the disk type things are rounded, not flat hope this info helps

senaia said:
either that or claim on insurance for a non-waranty voiding solution
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I'll stick with them sending me out a brand new phone under warranty for free

Be careful about postin that on here, you might be breaking the law.

crpercodani said:
Be careful about postin that on here, you might be breaking the law.
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LOL. Your a bad bad boy.

Related

Even more memory!

So I was browsing the registry the other day, to see if any improvements could be enabled, no, actually I was looking for some hidden storage. Sometimes HTC phones have an additional storage, but it's hidden. But I found some additional 20mb. Don't know where it is used for.
To enable it, go to:
[HKLM]\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_Pinet and set MountHidden value to 0 (zero) A soft reset may be required, in order to let it show up in your file explorer.
Anyway, I actually was searching for some 8gb om hidden internal storage to tripple confirm that the HD2 was WM7 compatible, as based on some leaked hardware req. for WM7. but... i could not found it.
WM7 does not need 8GB, it needs only 512MB. Don't believe the bull**** you read somewhere, all the bloggers have no clue.
TRUTH, Im so sick of hearin these bs specs spread around the forum
window mobile 7 only need 512mb not 8gb (even window xp on a computer does not need that mach of memory)
Dude... that reg change screwed my phone badly.
DONT change it.
I have to hard reset!
I can't trust xda anymore ..... you have no idea how much work is ahead of me... restoring everything back.
You just cost me 2 days of work!!!!
lorin.bute said:
Dude... that reg change screwed my phone badly.
DONT change it.
I have to hard reset!
I can't trust xda anymore ..... you have no idea how much work is ahead of me... restoring everything back.
You just cost me 2 days of work!!!!
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srry, i can't surpress a smile... it was not my intention, i hope you realize that, but, the reg edit works for me. hard reset my device often.
lorin.bute said:
Dude... that reg change screwed my phone badly.
DONT change it.
I have to hard reset!
I can't trust xda anymore ..... you have no idea how much work is ahead of me... restoring everything back.
You just cost me 2 days of work!!!!
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Its only your fault, how can u trust him when he wrote: "...Don't know where it is used for..."
Good luck with restoring your settings.
i can confirm that on mine this works. i put stuff in it, reset, and the data remains. phone seems unaffected.
Man, bigger the game bigger the risk!
On my previous two HTC devices I was keen to explore each patch/new rom/new app. Hence weekly hard resets
Now with my Leo, I'm much calmer as I don't have anymore the time you spent reinstalling everything.
Good luck exploring further
This is the last time i do these kind of changes and the last time i trust an unverified reg change.
lorin.bute said:
This is the last time i do these kind of changes and the last time i trust an unverified reg change.
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Man, if you hang around xda-developers and apply tweaks and suff, it's kinda naive to belive you're not gonna have to hard reset from time to time.
And who is crying if you are not going to apply any tweaks anymore?
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Man, if you hang around xda-developers and apply tweaks and suff, it's kinda naive to belive you're not gonna have to hard reset from time to time.
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This rather reminds me of the attitude that if someone is mugged and has their phone stolen then it is entirely the fault of the victim for using the phone in a public place. (My own, contrasting, view is that it is more appropriate to assign blame to the mugger).
Perhaps it is naive to assume that people will not recommend a tweak without first verifying that it doesn't break anything serious; but, if so, that's a pretty sad reflection on the mentality of the average XDA poster, IMO. Would it not be preferable to encourage people to verify the effects of a change before recommending it - to the extent that such verification becomes expected rather than exceptional? Should we not encourage people to take some responsibility for their recommendations rather than blaming all damage that results on the victim?
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Do you also regard it as "naive" to believe that one can use a mobile phone outside a train station without being mugged and having it stolen? And when such a mugging occurs, do you feel that the person to blame for what happened is the victim rather than the mugger?
Perhaps it is naive to assume that people will not recommend a tweak without first verifying that it doesn't break anything serious; but, if so, that's a pretty sad reflection on the mentality of the average XDA poster, IMO. Would it not be preferable to encourage people to verify the effects of a change before recommending it - to the extent that such verification becomes expected rather than exceptional? Should we not encourage people to take some responsibility for their recommendations rather than blaming all damage that results on the victim?
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This was a poor comparison. If you lay the phone at a bench, and going to the toilet, yes, it's a naive thing to do.
(I regret on my participation in this thread)
Shasarak said:
This rather reminds me of the attitude that if someone is mugged and has their phone stolen then it is entirely the fault of the victim for using the phone in a public place. (My own, contrasting, view is that it is more appropriate to assign blame to the mugger).
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lol - that is a bit different isn't it! It's not as if the mugger thought they were giving good advice, but unfortunately ended up attacking someone and stealing from them. Intention makes that a very different scenario.
In this instance, there's immediately 2 people saying that the advice worked for them, so nothing could have been done either by the recommender, or the listener. If lorin.brute had left it a few posts before applying the change then he would have seen people say it worked for them and gone ahead and done it. If hyellow had asked a couple of people to test it for him then the exact same thing could have happened.
I think this is just unfortunate.
Personally, I'm on the side that if you do something then you're responsible. If your passenger told you to drive really fast and turn the steering wheel really quickly because it's funny, would you just do it, or show caution.
(There you go - I've used an excessive analogy now too )
We don't need to argue here. I blame myself. Anybody can come here and post any kind of reg change.
Its just a lesson that needs to be learned.
Although, in the spirit of XDA, i would expect some rigorous testing of the reg before posting.
Shasarak said:
Would it not be preferable to encourage people to verify the effects of a change before recommending it - to the extent that such verification becomes expected rather than exceptional?
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True but I think that at the same time people should also use common sense and do a full system back up (with Sprite or whatever their preferred programme is) "just in case". Then it's just hard reset and 5 minutes to restore to how it was.
arxx said:
Man, if you hang around xda-developers and apply tweaks and suff, it's kinda naive to belive you're not gonna have to hard reset from time to time.
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Really? Haven't had to hard reset my HD2 yet, in 7 months didn't have to hard reset my X1 either. If you're judicious I think you can generally avoid hard resets.
johncmolyneux said:
Personally, I'm on the side that if you do something then you're responsible. If your passenger told you to drive really fast and turn the steering wheel really quickly because it's funny, would you just do it, or show caution.
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The problem with that analogy is that, if I'm driving a car, that implies that I have a fair idea of what the consequences of driving too fast will be. In this case we are talking about someone offering advice to people who are not qualified to understand the nature of the risk they are taking by following it.
A better analogy would be that it's like offering someone some cake when you know there is signfificant risk that it will contain razor blades. You yourself may deal with razor-blade-containing cake on a daily basis, and so you know to carefully sift through it with a spoon before biting; but people who are accustomed to cake that doesn't contain razor blades simply aren't aware that you need to do this. If you assume that the person you give the cake to is aware that it may contain razor blades without bothering to verify that he is, and he ends up getting lacerated, then you are far more to blame for the injury than he is. What you should do in that situation, of course, is actually check whether the cake contains razor blades or not before offering it to anybody; that way it's guaranteed that no one will get hurt, regardless of whether they are familiar with razor blade cake procedures or not. And it is not appropriate to point at the man with the lacerated mouth and accuse him of being "naive" because, when you offered him cake, he assumed that meant it was safe to eat.
I'm not getting in an analogy war with someone, especially someone on the forum that I respect, so I'll drop it. We obviously just see this from different perspectives, and I believe we should agree to disagree
Anyway, lorin.brute himself said it best...
lorin.brute said:
We don't need to argue here. I blame myself. Anybody can come here and post any kind of reg change.
Its just a lesson that needs to be learned.
Although, in the spirit of XDA, i would expect some rigorous testing of the reg before posting.
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See - we're both right lol
Shasarak said:
A better analogy would be that it's like offering someone some cake when you know there is signfificant risk that it will contain razor blades.
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Not quite, The OP didn't have any problem after applying the tweak, and nor did the following two people, so why would they 'know' it was dangerous? After three posts 100% of people had found no problem, so why would anyone assume it was going to go bad?

Dust under screen return - Root/Rom warranty issue??

I've had the Nexus since it's release last month and noticed some dust particles under the screen at the bottom left had corner.
After searching and reading a few thread on XDA and other forums it's clear that i'm not alone and the problem has become a lot worse over the past week with a cluster of dust gathering in the corner and a lovely sprinkling of dust across the whole bottom of the screen.
Now i've spoken to HTC UK on the phone who have arranged to collect the unit with a turn around time of 5 working days. All well and good however... I've rooted and updated the ROM to Cyanogen's 5.0.2. Now I understand that this voids your warranty so wondered what to expect one the HTC guys get a hold of the phone and figure this out?
Deano1889 said:
I've had the Nexus since it's release last month and noticed some dust particles under the screen at the bottom left had corner.
After searching and reading a few thread on XDA and other forums it's clear that i'm not alone and the problem has become a lot worse over the past week with a cluster of dust gathering in the corner and a lovely sprinkling of dust across the whole bottom of the screen.
Now i've spoken to HTC UK on the phone who have arranged to collect the unit with a turn around time of 5 working days. All well and good however... I've rooted and updated the ROM to Cyanogen's 5.0.2. Now I understand that this voids your warranty so wondered what to expect one the HTC guys get a hold of the phone and figure this out?
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You should post this question in one of the other dust/warranty threads (I suggest mine). Anyway, I'd flash back to stock ROM if I were you, and then cross your fingers.
I sent mine back in with an unlocked bootloader for the dust issue. They exchanged it with no issues.
Ok so you'll have guessed my next question already.
Does flashing back to stock ROM remove any sign of it ever been flashed? e.g. remove the lock icon on bootup? and where would I fijnd the stock ROM?
Carloswithac said:
I sent mine back in with an unlocked bootloader for the dust issue. They exchanged it with no issues.
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Great news? What was the turn around time? I'm not sure how the hell i'm going to cope without my Nexus for anything up to 7 working days!?!?
Carloswithac said:
I sent mine back in with an unlocked bootloader for the dust issue. They exchanged it with no issues.
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Maybe because it's just a hardware and no software issue
If you got a software issue and you're rooted: no replacement
Deano1889 said:
Ok so you'll have guessed my next question already.
Does flashing back to stock ROM remove any sign of it ever been flashed? e.g. remove the lock icon on bootup? and where would I fijnd the stock ROM?
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Nope... no way to relock the bootloader atm. The padlock will still show if they turn it on. So far they've been good about replacing phones with the dust under warranty (I'm assuming because it's prevalent enough). But technically they could deny a warranty claim according to their warranty provisions.
Still on topic about warranties and dust....
I called in, they said they would do a swap.
Do I have to send in the phone AND accessories, or just the phone?
-Please dont be the accessories...Headphones broke, lost the sleeve..-
Edit- I didn't tell them my bootloader was unlocked, haven't authorized the card yet, either. I'm waiting until tomorrow.
Will they deny my warranty claim?
Some people say they will, others say they won't!
its very confusing...
urfavoriteemo said:
Still on topic about warranties and dust....
I called in, they said they would do a swap.
Do I have to send in the phone AND accessories, or just the phone?
-Please dont be the accessories...Headphones broke, lost the sleeve..-
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Its usually always just the phone. I know with tmobile, they make you even take out the battery sd card and sim card.
McFroger3 said:
Its usually always just the phone. I know with tmobile, they make you even take out the battery sd card and sim card.
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Oh, that's very nice to know.
I just noticed the dust problem about two weeks ago -_-
I was thinking "Haha, no dust under my screen!" All of a sudden, phone goes off, and there's a few particles ..in the middle of the screen..
i just now fell victim also , will they replace it with a little dust or something significant? i just peeped a small strand of hair on the top part of the screen.
Any way to prevent or minimize the amount of dust entering???...Would a Screen Protector help?
KlanXX said:
Any way to prevent or minimize the amount of dust entering???...Would a Screen Protector help?
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As I stated in the 2nd post... check my original thread regarding the dust issue. It's MANY pages long, but just search for threads I started in this forum and you'll find it easily.
There's a technique that I suggest in which you use a hairdryer to heat up the screen thoroughly then push with a moderate/heavy amount of force till the screen clicks and reseals properly. It's worked for me and numerous others...

Trackball Screwy

Yesterday afternoon the trackball on my N1 stopped working. it'll scroll everywhere but left. Nothing obviously wrong with it, just wont go. thought i'd give it a minute, push and play with it, see if something gives, but no dice. This morning I called HTC, no questions about bootloader which should not affect a hardware issue anyway. Having a replacement sent today.
Now I'll send this phone back, and they will assumably examine and test it. I would agree with any non-hardware issues being rejected due to unlocked bootloader, however if they contact me and say they will not cover the trackball because of this, I will bite the bullet and pay for the repair or replacement, and won't even be pissy about it. I'm just curious what HTC will do, being as this is obviously a hardware issue which unlocking cannot affect.
Seems 50/50 whether they will cover it or not really.
i had a h/w issue and an unlocked bootloader and they still charged me $55 for a replacement
good luck
As of yesterday my trackball has started being annoying, has trouble scrolling downwards, though is not completely broken. I am reluctant to do an exchange, because mine is a special import and has an unlocked bootloader.
Do you have the number for US HTC anyway?
Daswolven said:
Yesterday afternoon the trackball on my N1 stopped working. it'll scroll everywhere but left. Nothing obviously wrong with it, just wont go. thought i'd give it a minute, push and play with it, see if something gives, but no dice. This morning I called HTC, no questions about bootloader which should not affect a hardware issue anyway. Having a replacement sent today.
Now I'll send this phone back, and they will assumably examine and test it. I would agree with any non-hardware issues being rejected due to unlocked bootloader, however if they contact me and say they will not cover the trackball because of this, I will bite the bullet and pay for the repair or replacement, and won't even be pissy about it. I'm just curious what HTC will do, being as this is obviously a hardware issue which unlocking cannot affect.
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How long did you have the phone before it got to this point? Also were you careful with the phone or (trying to find the words) a little wreckless? Just curious..
liam.lah said:
As of yesterday my trackball has started being annoying, has trouble scrolling downwards, though is not completely broken. I am reluctant to do an exchange, because mine is a special import and has an unlocked bootloader.
Do you have the number for US HTC anyway?
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1-888-216-4736
Nexus One specific hotline. They're nice people.
ChillRays said:
How long did you have the phone before it got to this point? Also were you careful with the phone or (trying to find the words) a little wreckless? Just curious..
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you must be an HTC insider...
this shouldn't matter it's covered for a year, no matter how he uses the trackball
zachthemaster said:
you must be an HTC insider...
this shouldn't matter it's covered for a year, no matter how he uses the trackball
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no just curious because I myself am looking into buying this phone. I don't want to repeat someone else's mistakes (if there are any mistakes at all). Not related to this but i've heard plenty of times where someone has said "if I was a little more careful, this wouldn't have happend". I'm trying to find a bunch of those situations so I don't fall for them. Thats it..
ChillRays said:
no just curious because I myself am looking into buying this phone. I don't want to repeat someone else's mistakes (if there are any mistakes at all). Not related to this but i've heard plenty of times where someone has said "if I was a little more careful, this wouldn't have happend". I'm trying to find a bunch of those situations so I don't fall for them. Thats it..
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oh well im a hard user of the trackball and its fine. what other things do you wanna know? ive had three of these so im a pro haha
Thanks for the number.
I can't help but wonder if me using "trackball wakeup" has contributed to this, I hope not, because it is damn handy to use.
liam.lah said:
Thanks for the number.
I can't help but wonder if me using "trackball wakeup" has contributed to this, I hope not, because it is damn handy to use.
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i have that as well on cyanogen 506. honestly it should be fine.
if it sticks, clean the ball with a very miniscule amount of alcohol, it'll break the dirt down and youll be good to go. or just dont think about it everytime you touch it (i used to be that way and now im better off. ha)
oh and a friendly tip.
EVERYTIME you're done using the TB, WIPE IT ON YOUR SHIRT or something cloth. thats the best way to clean it. up and down on your shirt. side to side even too
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oh well im a hard user of the trackball and its fine. what other things do you wanna know? ive had three of these so im a pro haha
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Needless to say I think i've heard every problem you could possibly have with this phone happen. From the screen cracking from a 1 foot drop to the camera app not working, to this post. However, I'm going with the n1 anyway. I'm sure that for every bad nexus one, theres 1,999 good ones. Anyway the only thing I need help with is finding a good case that will prevent damage because I have been known for dropping my phone alot.
My friends have told me to go with the "seidio innocase II" and others have said get a crystal silicone case. What do you recommend?
ChillRays said:
Needless to say I think i've heard every problem you could possibly have with this phone happen. From the screen cracking from a 1 foot drop to the camera app not working, to this post. However, I'm going with the n1 anyway. I'm sure that for every bad nexus one, theres 1,999 good ones. Anyway the only thing I need help with is finding a good case that will prevent damage because I have been known for dropping my phone alot.
My friends have told me to go with the "seidio innocase II" and others have said get a crystal silicone case. What do you recommend?
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i just use the included neoprene case and a lot of careful handling. why dont you waltz over to cases and accessories!
but really the neoprene case is just enough for me because i like the naked look and feel of the phone. plus the case was free!
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i just use the included neoprene case and a lot of careful handling. why dont you waltz over to cases and accessories!
but really the neoprene case is just enough for me because i like the naked look and feel of the phone. plus the case was free!
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Yeah I've seen those. I tried to get one from ebay and one went for 40 dollars. Screw it, i'll get the free one that comes with the phone. I just hope that offers enough protection. I will check out the cases and accessories. Thanks master =)
ChillRays said:
Yeah I've seen those. I tried to get one from ebay and one went for 40 dollars. Screw it, i'll get the free one that comes with the phone. I just hope that offers enough protection. I will check out the cases and accessories. Thanks master =)
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no problem man. it definitely offers enough protection. but thats my personal use, i handle the thing like a new born so if thats any indication then ya. if you're gonna drop it... dont. haha
ChillRays said:
How long did you have the phone before it got to this point? Also were you careful with the phone or (trying to find the words) a little wreckless? Just curious..
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I've had it since release. I ordered it about 30 minutes after the google.com/phone site was up and running. I am always careful with my devices, and use cases and protectors. My phone has never been dropped or mishandled. By way of example, I also got my G1 on release day, and when i got my nexus I was able to sell it on Ebay for $250 with a review about the immaculate condition of the phone he had received. He said it looked like it just came out of the original box.
I hold babies with less precision and attention.
Easy fix
I had the same problem but mine wouldn't scroll down. After getting the run-around on the phone from HTC, I tried to fix it myself. It took less than 10 seconds.
Just grab the ball using your finger nails or something similar, and twist the ball a little bit. it'll loosen up built up dirt and oil on the sensors, and viola! You should be able to scroll again. If not, then you need a replacement.
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I had the same problem but mine wouldn't scroll down. After getting the run-around on the phone from HTC, I tried to fix it myself. It took less than 10 seconds.
Just grab the ball using your finger nails or something similar, and twist the ball a little bit. it'll loosen up built up dirt and oil on the sensors, and viola! You should be able to scroll again. If not, then you need a replacement.
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You know, I would try this if the replacement hadn't been delivered to my doorstep like 5 minutes ago. Downside = I suppose I will need to run stock for a few weeks in case they refuse to accept the return because of the bootloader. Will make me appreciate devs all the more.
UPDATE: AAARRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! I AM RESTORING MY BEAUTIFUL PHONE TO STOCK STATE! OMFGPLSGODWHYISTHISHAPPENINGTOME! WILL BE RUNNING STOCK FOR A WEEK OR SO AFTER. HUGE CAN OF SUCK.
Update: okay, so this isn't that bad. Sigh.

What would you do in this Hinge-related international problem

So, basically, I am living in israel for a year so I can have a year of grade-free religious studies and not have to worry about my gpa or take tests. The only problem is that Cell phone selection is pretty crappy.
So I went onto ebay and bought a G2 that shipped to my parents place and a buddy of mine was supposed to bring it to me tomorow but I found out today that I have the hinge problem pretty bad. (my dad showed it to me via skype)
I contacted HTC and they said I am still under warranty but they may not even replace the phone if I send it it. I can get my parents to bring it to a local repair shop and get them to just fix the spring, but the only problem with that is that they may not know what they are doing with the g2 as it is a new phone.
Normally it wouldnt be an issue to just send it it to HTC but the next time a friend is coming in from the states is early january and I don't want to have to wait that long for a phone that may not even get repaired...what would you do?
p.s. I also happen to have a friend here in israel, and although he is not proffesionally trained, he has opened up many an HTC phone. can anyone who has done the spring fix themeselves tell me if it is a particularly hard operation to do on the phone? When you are done doing it does the phone show any sign of being opened to the untrained eye? Sorry about the long post
mountain out of a molehill, you are making, my friend.
get the phone and stick with it. Your dad may not realize that this is normal for the phone.
Get the phone over to the promised land now... and then if you are so unhappy with it... fix it yourself using a thread on how to repair your own hinge on this here XDA Forums!
todah!
Thanks for the reply one thing I noticed when he showed me the phone was that it was almost exactly the same problem as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvHE5lZ1tCs in that the screen is a little wobly after the keyboard is deployed. Is that also normal?
Thanks for the quick response!
Durkbeef said:
Thanks for the reply one thing I noticed when he showed me the phone was that it was almost exactly the same problem as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvHE5lZ1tCs in that the screen is a little wobly after the keyboard is deployed. Is that also normal?
Thanks for the quick response!
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its normal. Its basically a non issue. I think people just expected it to be rock solid like its predecessor the G1. A lot of people took it way out of context and basically caused such a ruckus over this...
anything with hinges.. is going to be a little free to move around because.. its on hinges!!!
unless the hinges are broken theres no problem with this phone. I mean.. its not for the construction worker or for people who dont have the time or energy to treat it with some respect.. its not exactly a wimp either...
You can always tighten it up a bit to give it more "snap"...
Also.. you will find that your need for the keyboard is not as great as you think... because of the capability for voice commands and the incredible swype and gingerbread keyboards on this --- its so intuitive I rarely need the keyboard anymore.
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its normal. Its basically a non issue. I think people just expected it to be rock solid like its predecessor the G1. A lot of people took it way out of context and basically caused such a ruckus over this...
anything with hinges.. is going to be a little free to move around because.. its on hinges!!!
unless the hinges are broken theres no problem with this phone. I mean.. its not for the construction worker or for people who dont have the time or energy to treat it with some respect.. its not exactly a wimp either...
You can always tighten it up a bit to give it more "snap"...
Also.. you will find that your need for the keyboard is not as great as you think... because of the capability for voice commands and the incredible swype and gingerbread keyboards on this --- its so intuitive I rarely need the keyboard anymore.
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+1 for the keyboard, i only use mine for long text messages or emails, otherwise i use swype/HTC IME keyboard.
I wasn't happy with mine at first but now I don't even notice it.
Agree with androidcues on the fact that people are making waaay more of a big deal about the hinge than it really is.
The things that are shown in the video linked above, or similar ones (like the phone opening while holding it upside down), would never even be noticed by most people. While I wish the hinge design would stay closed a little more "firmly", its an extremely minor criticism. I still quite like the design, and the general build quality of the phone is excellent.
I'm not as concerned about the loose hinge as I am about the fact that it wobbles after the keyboard is deployed
Durkbeef said:
I'm not as concerned about the loose hinge as I am about the fact that it wobbles after the keyboard is deployed
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This again, as stated earlier is really a non-issue if you are normal and take care of your phone. HOWEVER, if you throw your phone around, like to sit on it, or work construction where your phone goes through hell each day, this WOULD be a problem. Personally, i dont understand how some people take such poor care of their phones .
Durkbeef said:
I'm not as concerned about the loose hinge as I am about the fact that it wobbles after the keyboard is deployed
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The things the guys is doing in the Youtube video you posted, you and every other other normal person will never do in regular use. The way he is pressing the bottom edge of the screen with the keyboard deployed, or bending the top, there is no sane reason for you to ever do those things. Its just a nitpicky point discovered by somebody looking for problems where there aren't really any.
Its a self fulfilling prophecy. Like a hypochondriac surfing WebMD, the more of this stuff you read or watch, the more you are likely to find a "problem". Stop sweating it, and wait until you have it in your hands. If it really feels like its defective, then send it to HTC. You have full warranty for a year from the manufacturer, I believe.
long story short, your phone is fine, a little give in the hinge is normal.
get that beautiful piece of art to you, root it, and live it up my friend
redpoint73 said:
The things the guys is doing in the Youtube video you posted, you and every other other normal person will never do in regular use. The way he is pressing the bottom edge of the screen with the keyboard deployed, or bending the top, there is no sane reason for you to ever do those things. Its just a nitpicky point discovered by somebody looking for problems where there aren't really any.
Its a self fulfilling prophecy. Like a hypochondriac surfing WebMD, the more of this stuff you read or watch, the more you are likely to find a "problem". Stop sweating it, and wait until you have it in your hands. If it really feels like its defective, then send it to HTC. You have full warranty for a year from the manufacturer, I believe.
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very well said. a perfect summary of the illusion of the issue.
Thanks for the heads up guys, I think the current plan is to get the phone to me and if it really bothers me, I'll give it to my friend for surgery, I remember seeing somewhere you could buy some of those warranty is now void stickers to put on the phone to make it look like you never touched it... Can someone give me a link?
Htc will check your phone and determine whether you have voided the warranty. But...I'm betting you'll be voiding it anyhow. Just send it back the way you found it. Document recovery hboot info etc so you can find the files to flash when and if u need to. But you shouldn't and lmfao at a 'sticker'
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Need assistance w/ DIY A500 Repair (Power Button) *ACER FIXED IT!*

I'll have to take pictures later when I get home so you all can have a better understanding of my problem.
My power button stopped working two days ago (no click or reaction when pressed). I never filled out any of my warranty things & I have no idea what my serial number is. So any who, I opened up my tablet and carefully disconnected the battery and all necessary connectors so that I could see what was causing the button issue. Turns out, the power button switch had disconnected from the circuit board.
I went and bought a soldering iron but after a few attempts I realized that I was going to have to go a different route. The chip itself has five connections to the board and these connections are under the chip itself. What is the best way for me to reconnect this chip to the board? I'm thinking of purchasing some thermal adhesive and seeing if that does the trick since without this part I'm looking at a large paperweight. Any suggestions?
I'd like to help, but without seeing how it actually is I'm having trouble with that. And I don't feel comfortable opening my tablet without a good reason.
Could you perhaps supply a few pictures?
WereCatf said:
I'd like to help, but without seeing how it actually is I'm having trouble with that. And I don't feel comfortable opening my tablet without a good reason.
Could you perhaps supply a few pictures?
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Added two pictures, sorry if they're not clear enough. The whole thing is pretty much trash unless I'm able to repair this or get it to someone that can. People should be aware when they push their power button super hard - doesn't have anything keeping the chip firming in place.
Jigga0o7 said:
I'm thinking of purchasing some thermal adhesive and seeing if that does the trick since without this part I'm looking at a large paperweight. Any suggestions?
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Thermal adhesive might not be the best idea. It's primarily meant for conducting heat, and thus it seems most thermal adhesives are somewhat electrically conductive. In other words you could possibly create a short and fry something.
In theory I agree that using something glue-like substance would be the easiest way to go, but you need to find something that is not electrically conductive in the least and when it dries/cools down that it hard. If it becomes a soft blob you'll find you're still having issues with the switch staying down and connected.
I'd personally still go with soldering it down and then applying something to ensure it stays there, but you'd need a very tiny soldering iron -- like e.g. one used by clocksmiths -- and steady hands. And preferably some experience with soldering something so small.
Your eleven digit serial # is inside the cover of the sd card door, a one year warranty is on all acer tablet, if they cannot fix it they would have given you a new one from the place of purches mine would be staples, i call acer usa all the time, i call today and ask if the 500 will get ICS the answer was when google release the code they will..
I would suggest soldering it, its the only thing that will hold the switch in place long term. They do make a conductive adhesive for electronic circuit board repair, but it is more for repairing boards, not really for attaching components. It wouldn't be too hard to solder it back on, just get some solder wick and remove all the old solder first, then re-attach the switch with new solder. If you don't feel comfortable doing it, take it to your local TV/Electronic repair shop. Since its already out and all they would have to do is re-solder the switch, it probably wouldn't cost too much to do. Although what the other poster said about returning it to Acer to have them repair it is probably the smartest answer. If it does have a year warranty, then that's what I'd do.
Thanks everyone for the advice. Ill get acer on the horn tomorrow to try and see what's what.
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I believe once you've opened up your tablet, your Acer warranty is VOID. Sorry.
Any insight as far as how they would know? I called acer last night and was given all the info as far as how to send it back. Hopefully if they notice I did some tinkering, they'll just fix it anyway and bill me or something. I definitely regret panicking about this situation & opening it up when that was totally unnecessary.
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There should be a tamper-evident seal underneath the MicroSD/SIM compartment door. It rips when you disassemble the tablet. It is a little black square sticker that says something like "Warranty void if broken" (I dunno exactly, I already removed mine completely). It's hard to miss.
heretic said:
There should be a tamper-evident seal underneath the MicroSD/SIM compartment door. It rips when you disassemble the tablet. It is a little black square sticker that says something like "Warranty void if broken" (I dunno exactly, I already removed mine completely). It's hard to miss.
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I couldn't find it, looked for a while. I'm going to be sending mine off today. Hopefully they'll just fix or replace it. If they send it back to me unrepaired it's not the end of the world. I'll just count it as a loss and buy a new tab early next year. Definitely wouldn't be another Acer though; that power button connection isn't nearly as sturdy as it should be.
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I sent my device to the Acer location in Temple, TX and received an email from them this morning that it has been repaired and that I will soon be emailed with a tracking number. Hopefully that's true and not just a template response though.
well for those worried about the power button getting lose my electronics firm have used a hich tech substance called hot glue to hold things in place
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UPDATE:
I sent my device to the Acer location in Temple, TX and received an email from them this morning that it has been repaired and that I will soon be emailed with a tracking number. Hopefully that's true and not just a template response though.
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Good to hear that.
Did you root,flash any roms on your tablet? I was just wondering because mine has the same problem, power button not working, and may have to send it back to acer for repair. I am a little worried that they would find out that I flashed a rom and would not repair it. Thanks
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Did you root,flash any roms on your tablet? I was just wondering because mine has the same problem, power button not working, and may have to send it back to acer for repair. I am a little worried that they would find out that I flashed a rom and would not repair it. Thanks
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Yep it was modded in every way. Rooted, Thor rom on it etc. Thing is, they probably didn't know any of that until they'd already fixed the power button. I'll report back on Wednesday as to whether or not they actually fixed it or if they replaced it with another.
Jigga0o7 said:
Yep it was modded in every way. Rooted, Thor rom on it etc. Thing is, they probably didn't know any of that until they'd already fixed the power button. I'll report back on Wednesday as to whether or not they actually fixed it or if they replaced it with another.
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Ok, thanks for letting me know, sounds exactly like mine. Have to give the Costco concierge service a call tomorrow to see what they say, whether to send it to acer or get another one through Costco.
slow_DC4 said:
Ok, thanks for letting me know, sounds exactly like mine. Have to give the Costco concierge service a call tomorrow to see what they say, whether to send it to acer or get another one through Costco.
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If I were you, I'd try Costco first. Especially if you're like me in the way that I HAAAAATE having to wait for things to come. They've had it since last Wednesday and I'll be refreshing the fedex tracking website like 100 times per minute looking for updates.
Gonna go pick it up from fedex once I get off work. Will report back as far as the repair status/replacement. If they did repair or replace, that's a very good showing on Acer's end as far as their product support since I opened the unit and had it rooted.
Ok, looking forward to your reply. I called costco and apparently I was past the return period so I have to send it to acer for repair. Just out of curiosity, did they charge you for anything?
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