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I'm wondering what kind of wifi speeds are you getting out of your prophet?
I can't seem to get more than 11 mbps, although I have not done any tweaking either on access point or on the prophet. Anybody getting higher (and how?)?
You can check the speed of your connection in Settings>WLAN>Main> (look at tx rate)
When I had a 802.11B router I was getting 11mps on my Prophet. Recently I upgraded to an 802.11G router and set it to G only and now when I look at the tx rate it says "auto". So I really have no idea what my transfer rate is although I can confirm that it appears to be running about twice as fast when copying files off the network and streaming video is miles better.
When you say "video streaming" do you refer to viewing videos from the pc on your network, or internet streaming videos?
I haven't tried either, but would be interested in your insight.
krale said:
When you say "video streaming" do you refer to viewing videos from the pc on your network, or internet streaming videos?
I haven't tried either, but would be interested in your insight.
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Yes I mean viewing videos streamed from my pc to my Prophet via my wifi network. I used a DVD to Pocket PC ripper (I can't remember it's name offhand) and rip my entire DVD collection at the highest setting and save them all to my PC. I can then watch the movies on my Prophet via wifi and it doesn't seem to want to buffer at all. This saves me having to use up space on my SD card. Also at night when I'm in bed it's a fantastic way to catch up on all those gory action films that my wife doesn't want to watch (Kill Bill etc) not to mention at 6am when my 3yr old comes rampaging into the room and climbing on the bed I can put on the Wiggles or similar and hey presto I get another half an hour sleep
I set my router to G only mode and saw that I was getting 24 mbps with my Prophet, I don't know if that is the max or not. I have since changed my router back to b,g auto because the range in G only is fine for in the house, but for long distance B is better.
Thanks guys, that's helpful.
So is it fair to assume that if the router is positioned on auto (b/g) you will get only 11Mbps, and if you set it higher, you may achieve higher speeds?
I mean, my router is set on auto, and I have no way of setting it to g-only, so I am wondering if a new router would improve speeds....
Thanks for your input.
One more thing, How do you guys do that streaming thing? I mean I have a program which lets me see my shared folders on the PC over wifi, and I can open documents easily over the network. But whenever I click an mp3, or (god-forbid) video file, Windows Media either blocks, or says something like 'no parameter'...
What am I doing wrong?
Sorry for my tardy response (you may have already worked this out) but streaming movies with TCPMP rather than Windows Media is the bettter option. So long as you have your network set up (ie. can browse to shared folders on you pc) then it's just a case of within TCPMP "open file" and browsing to the shared area you have on your network that contains your movies .... and play. Likewise for MP3s.
For some reason I cannot get it working the same using Windows Media .... which does not bother me at all because I prefer TCPMP.
Hope this helps ... you you need any more info just ask ... I'll try to be a bit swifter this time
Hey thanks a lot for the answer. I had already tried with TCMPC player and streaming worked splendid... No probs at all...
My only worry for the prophet now is battery time...
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One more thing, How do you guys do that streaming thing? I mean I have a program which lets me see my shared folders on the PC over wifi, and I can open documents easily over the network. But whenever I click an mp3, or (god-forbid) video file, Windows Media either blocks, or says something like 'no parameter'...
What am I doing wrong?
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You might possibly get a faster through put with G only, but in theory with auto mode it should switch to B mode only when the signal is very weak. I switched my router to G only mode just to verify that my Prophet was capable of G speeds.
Hi,
Is anyone successfully using ORB (www.orb.com) and streaming either video content or live TV to their TyTN?
I can stream perfectly but even in full screen landscape mode the picture is still only about the size of a postage stamp in the center of the screen with the rest of the screen black
I have heard of some people using TCPMP from coreplayer, however this is even worse as the screen (and sometimes the entire phone) just freezes within about 2 seconds of the stream starting. Another problem with TCPMP seems to be that it sometimes asks me if I want to overwrite the live.wmv file which suggests that it is downloading it instead of streaming it
Anyway, I'd much rather have it working in WM10 if only the screen would resize it properly.
Another problem is that I can't stream from my WiFi connection, even at home if I want to stream video I have to use GPRS because I get an error on WiFi (using WM10).
Thanks,
Mark
I use Orb very regularly. I use it with WMP10 on my Tytn and I do not experience the problem that you mention.
The only advice I can offer is that perhaps the the downsizing happens automatically as a result of your network speed. You'll notice that when you log into Orb, the very first thing is does is perform a speed test of the network. It is highly likely the result of that test dictates the resolution and bitrate of video that it streams to your device. I get it full screen with no problem. I'm on Cingular's UMTS in the US. Check that speed test and see what speeds it is getting.
As far as the Wi-Fi goes, I wish I could help you. I can also stream with no problems over Wi-fi. At least you know it's not a limitation of Orb or your device.
After reading your comments I decided to trick Orb into thinking that I was on a fast connection.
I loaded the Orb webpage and did the speedtest using wifi, then turned wifi off and started streaming some live TV...
You're right, it played in full screen
Now if only I could set up my wifi to stream rather than just browse then I'd be sorted!
Thanks,
Mark
Check all your Wi-Fi settings because it doesn't seem to make sense that you can stream over radio but not Wi-Fi. Make sure that the Wi-Fi connection you link up to is set to connect to whatever your main internet connection is on your phone. Also check the router (if you're trying this at home with a wireless router) and make sure your router isn't blocking anything, although when I installed Orb, it configured itself to go through my router without needing any manual input from me, which was nice
although when I installed Orb, it configured itself to go through my router without needing any manual input from me, which was nice
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Well my Dlink DI-524 isn't quite so helpfull
I've traced the problem to my router, and I can now stream by manually assigning an IP address to the TyTN (as opposed to DCHP) and then putting that IP into the routers DMZ (demilitarised zone).
I'm not sure how safe it is doing that but at least it works now
Mark
I have had two different HTC Fuze devices now and have noticed that the WiFi performance seems to be rather slow. I have a 54mbps wireless network setup I believe (I use wired Gigabit ethernet for my PCs, WHS & Media Streamer), yet the only difference in speeds I notice between my WiFi network and AT&T's 3G seem to be better latency on WiFi. I have tried all 3 different WiFi settings in Windows Mobile, Performance/Balanced/BatterySave, and they don't seem to make much difference.
Now, as far as Opera Mobile goes, the poor speed can probably be attributed to the browser's rendering engine and the device's hardware, but my real complaint here is with the RSS reader I use, Spb Insight. I have 58 feeds set up, and it took it about 30-35 minutes to download 42.7~ MB of data over my WiFi network. I realize this isn't too bad, all things considered, but my Comcast cable connection is 20 mbps downlink, and if I were to download 42 megs of data on my desktop PC, we'd be looking at around 21 seconds (max transfer of ~2.11 MB/sec, tested on GigaNews USENET servers).
So my question is, assuming the bottleneck isn't the Spb Insight RSS Reader software, which I don't think it is, are there any registry changes/hacks or software I can use to get a bit better speed out of the Fuze's WiFi radio? I am running the stock AT&T ROM with the workaround that bypasses the AT&T BloatWare Install and my radio is stock also. I did a few forum searches and didn't come up with much of anything, and nothing Fuze related.
Is anyone else noticing slower-than-expected/desired WiFi speeds on their Fuze?
-- As an aside, I noted earlier I have a Media Streamer box - basically a dedicated small Shuttle brand PC box that I stuck a dual-core Celeron into that's only function is to transcode & stream videos via the Orb Software. I used a Seinfeld episode xvid @ 576x432 resolution that plays near-perfect, a frame-skip here and there (and looks gorgeous, I might add) on the Fuze using CorePlayer v1.2.5, but when I stream those same videos off my streamer box (transcoded into WMV) using Orb over WiFi, they're nearly unwatchable from all the hiccups and audio sync issues. I haven't even bothered trying it using 3G, since it can't even manage it over wireless. These videos streamed without any issue to my Archos 5 60GB Internet Media Tablet and Nokia N810 IT, both devices I've since sold, as the HTC Fuze replaces both without much issue, although the 600MHz ARM Cortex A8 + Graphics Chip in the Archos was a monster, eating webpages for breakfast & outputting 720p video to HDTV with nary a frameskip to be seen. They need to get those Cortex procs into mobile phones ASAP.
In any case, it seems like the WiFi is hindering me in this regard as well and I'd very much like to get this all ironed out so I can rest easy knowing my Fuze does everything I want it to. Sorry for the long-winded post, and a big thank you to all the contributors here for the amazing wealth of knowledge on these forums.
Try to change your radio stack, check for WLAN setup utilities to lock your transfer speed at 54 and try to make a WiFi connection with your PC to make sure it is not your router who makes lags
I noticed that the range of the Fuze's wi-fi is very limited. Anyone else notice this??
Having only used the Sprint TP, I didn't notice any specific issues with WiFi. Have you verified that all of the connection settings are properly configured? (wifi connects to internet instead of work network and your applications are set to use 'the internet' instead of 'MEdia Net') Then again, the stock Fuze ROM could very well just suck as most ATT HTC ROMs usually do
I have a wireless router(Asus WL-600G) in my room that support:
802.11g:6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54 Mbps
802.11b:1,2,5.5,11 Mbps
My PC connected to this router with wired lan and ofcource my HTC-HD connected to this router with wireless connection.
But in my phone's wireless LAN setting, in the box of Tx-Rate shows 54Mbps and in the box of Rx-Rate shows 1 Mbps(usually)(some times shows 54Mbps and then change to 1Mbps)
ofcource, I set power save mode to Best Performance.
When I use Resco File Explorer to transfer my files like .avi files, from my pc to my phone, my speed is up to 300KByte/s and it taking too long time, transfering my files.
And I can't watch my movies directly from my local Lan and continiusly my movie player(Core Player) buffering when i want to watch my movie so i can't use it to watch my movies directly from my LAN.
My question is, why my phone's rx-rate is 1Mbps when I have a router that support up to 54Mbps and why my transfer speed is up to 300Kbyte/s
Note: my devices are not so far(1 meter), and my signal progress bar is about 80%, although my Laptop in the same distance has VERY GOOD signal.
Have you tried the following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471910
i checked it, don't have any effect on my device !!!
have you tried changing the power settings to better perfomance??
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have you tried changing the power settings to better perfomance??
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As i wrote before, I set power save mode to Best Performance !!!
In the thread to "make the wifi faster", they got a "wonderfull" speed up to 1900kbps... kiloBITS per seconds ! As kiloBYTES (the only interesting measure) it's an incredible ~240kB/s. It's just BAD for this kind of connection...
The WiFi on HTC devices is just there to be on the description of the device, cause it's just slower than a good HSDPA (around 4Mb/s or 500kB/s).
I can confirm I only got around 300kB/s using my G router. It's just not useable (you can expect a minimum of 1MB/s for a WiFi G and a max of 700kB/s for a B).
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In the thread to "make the wifi faster", they got a "wonderfull" speed up to 1900kbps... kiloBITS per seconds ! As kiloBYTES (the only interesting measure) it's an incredible ~240kB/s. It's just BAD for this kind of connection...
The WiFi on HTC devices is just there to be on the description of the device, cause it's just slower than a good HSDPA (around 4Mb/s or 500kB/s).
I can confirm I only got around 300kB/s using my G router. It's just not useable (you can expect a minimum of 1MB/s for a WiFi G and a max of 700kB/s for a B).
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Thx Ipaso
I want to know in this device we don't have a real speed wifi !!? or all other pda like omnio, Xpersia and iphone have same wifi speed
And with 200 kByte/s i can't see my movies from my LAN? because Core player continiusly buffering
It is important for me, I can watch my movies with my HTC-HD device
do u know any other solution to watch my movies directly from my LAN without pouse ?
dr1361teh said:
Thx Ipaso
I want to know in this device we don't have a real speed wifi !!? or all other pda like omnio, Xpersia and iphone have same wifi speed
And with 200 kByte/s i can't see my movies from my LAN? because Core player continiusly buffering
It is important for me, I can watch my movies with my HTC-HD device
do u know any other solution to watch my movies directly from my LAN without pouse ?
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I totally understand your problem, cause I'm trying to do the exact same thing (transfert avi and watching vids on my phone from my server using WiFi).
Yes - have exactly the same problem!!!
Router G mode, wifi G patch on HD, and speed about 200-300kB
I have the same speed problem with my home router ASUS WL-500w + sometimes it keeps disconnecting and connecting every 2 seconds.
I tried different WIFI router (Huawei) and it seems to work fine.
Tx-Rate shows 54Mbps and Rx-Rate shows 54 Mbps too.
+ with this router it was working on really long distance.
So i think the problem is in my ASUS router.
Today I'll try to use alternative firmware in my ASUS router. Maybe it will help.
Tried with 3 different radio roms, and with each ones, never more than ~300kByte/s... We don't even need WiFi G for this speed !
I wonder... is it because the device is defaulting to 802.11b instead of 802.11g?
one test could be to set your router to ONLY 802.11g......
Currently using my Shield TV as a media server for single user use. I have an external usb 3.0 hard drive connected. when transferring files via network from/to my pc, transfer rates are pretty low at around 5-10MBps, with frequent speed spikes during transfer, resulting in speed dropping all the way down to 0kbps, but then it goes back up again, but its not a steady average speed. If i were to do this between another networked device, speed is much faster and stable. Are there any settings or configuration files in android i could modify to improve speed?
I've got a possibly related issue with streaming as well. If i try to stream a long video, like a show or movie, stream initially takes what seems like forever to load, and jumping between scenes cause the pause again. I get that it has to buffer, but buffering seems to take forever for larger videos. This is most notable with Kodi, or other apps that stream video, and seems to be an issue whether the video is on the internet somewhere, or even on my local network. Youtube seems fine. though. Any way to improve this as well?
Everything is hardwired via gigabit connections
So if you plug another device into the same network cable and copy to the same external hard drive, you get better performance? Are you using SMB(Windows Shares) to copy files?
First thought is your network cable.
Second is SMB on Android SUCKS, though I have no issue streaming full spec HD over SMB in my current setup, but you won't get gigabit speeds on SMB with android and 5-10MBps is 40-80 mbps which is more than enough for streaming.
Try installing a speedtest app and see what it reports. Could help you identify if it's you network? SMB? or USB.
The intermittent speed issue seems to be the same whether transferring via ftp, webdav, smb, etc. im guessing its on the network but transferring to other devices other than android ( like to another pc for example) seems to not be affected, which is why im assuming the issue is something to do with the android device. its not my internet connection im talking about, but local connection on the local network. im using a netgear nighthawk r7000 router, with wired cat 5e cables on both the shield tv and pc.
the funny thing is my shield tv can even do gamestream in 4k, so i wouldnt think bandwidth is an issue, but streaming videos via software like mx player, kodi, etc seems to take awhile. like it isnt near instant, even at 720p/1080p. For example my external usb 3.0 hard drive is plugged into the shield tv, so the movies are on the drive. playing locally through the usb 3.0 works flawless, but streaming it to kodi on my pc takes a minute before it loads. dont get me wrong, once it plays, it plays and doesnt pause to buffer, etc. its that initial loading that seems to take forever. using the same 3.0 drive connected to my pc, streaming movie to shield tv running kodi, the issue is the same.
then when it comes to transferring, the same can be said with transfer speeds via usb 3.0 and ethernet. again, its all running on the local network, not via internet, so obviously theres some sort of network issue, but what? because when running via network on devices other than android the speed seems to all be there.
Similar situation here......also have an r7000
LAN network speed usually starts fast (50mb average), but gradually slows down to a somewhat stable 5mb
Are you using custom firmware for the router, or netgear stock firmware?
Theres an android app, that specifically tests network speed, search for "wifi speed test"
banderos101
Searching for wifi speed test in the play store results in several speed test apps but all ive seen seem to just want to test internet network? would need to test local network speed.
After more testing ive determined that the issue seems more obvious via ethernet. on wifi the connection seems more stable, steadying at around 5MBps, but eventually the connection slows and drops. On ethernet though, the connection is way more sporatic, bouncing continuously up and down, which is odd because obviously wired should be more stable. ive tried swapping ethernet cables and nothing seems to change the issue at all.
if only i could get 50mb average, id be happy, but im not even getting that. :\ when transferring locally on the shield, from the usb 3.0 external drive to the microsd slot or internal storage, speed is awesome at around 30-50MBps, so i know the capability is there, but its almost like the android network is somehow limiting performance. :/
Okay so after more digging I think I've gotten closer to the issue, now to just find a fix...
So after using WiFi speed test (which is great app to test LOCAL networks btw, thanks banderos101!) I notice that doing a TCP test is rather fast, averaging 50MBps on WiFi, even faster on Ethernet. However, the smb client tab for this app shows the same slow issue, and when you use it, it warns about slow speeds and suggest changing the "message block size" in settings to get faster speeds. So I do that and lo and behold, faster speed! The problem is the only thing I can find this setting for is in WiFi speed test app, and even a Google search seems to provide little information.
Does anyone know anything about message block size and how one could adjust it?
I'll give that app a try and see what I see, though I have no issues with local streaming.