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How Much Memory Should I have?

Newb- ~ 1 week with new Cing-8125 - 1st handheld - it rocks
Why does "Device Info" say
RAM = 64MB
Flash = 128MB
But "Memory" shows:
Memory storage = 47.46MB
Program Total = 44.00MB
This is only 91.46MB
Is this correct ? Where's the rest?
Thanks

I am curious about this as well. According to Device Info, I should have 64MB to run programs and 128MB for storage, but I am well under that. :?
Can anyone explain what is going on???
Thanks,
Dave

You're only going to get 128 MB of ROM and 64 MB or RAM with nothing installed on the device. The ROM, which consists of the OS, the Cingular stuff, and the other included applications takes up quite a bit of storages space, about 57 MB. As for the RAM, the OS needs memory to run as well. I've installed a ton of things on my Cingular 8125 already, so I have no idea what the standard amounts are, perhaps someone would be so kind as to post them.

Missing ROM & RAM
PointZero said:
You're only going to get 128 MB of ROM and 64 MB or RAM with nothing installed on the device. The ROM, which consists of the OS, the Cingular stuff, and the other included applications takes up quite a bit of storages space, about 57 MB. As for the RAM, the OS needs memory to run as well. I've installed a ton of things on my Cingular 8125 already, so I have no idea what the standard amounts are, perhaps someone would be so kind as to post them.
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I understand that, but...
I would expect it to report like so:
Storage
Total: 128 MB
In Use: 38.54 MB
Free: 89.46 MB
Program
Total: 64 MB
In Use: 31.73 MB
Free: 32.27 MB
But instead I get:
Storage
Total: 47.46 MB
In Use: 38.54 MB
Free: 8.92 MB
Program
Total: 44.01 MB
In Use: 31.73 MB
Free: 12.28 MB
So what happened to 80.54 MB of ROM (Storage) & 19.99 MB of RAM (Program)? Are you saying that the base OS uses up this much RAM & ROM, and the system just shows it as not even being there? The actual image (nk.nbf) in the OS installer is 80MB in size so this does seem to add up. :wink:
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Dave

[Q] low internal memory for nand ics beta 10 (tytung's)

HI, I'm currently using ics beta 10 as a rom for my hd2 but then I only got 150 mb of internal storage what's worst is that the actual storage I get to fill is only around 50 mb cause the rest 100 mb is being used by the rom applications, is there any way I could increase the size of my internal memory? can't install apps cause they say insufficient memory like if I have 30 mb left and the app size is around 17 mb it's still insufficient, thanks for the help!

kdyzapra said:
HI, I'm currently using ics beta 10 as a rom for my hd2 but then I only got 150 mb of internal storage what's worst is that the actual storage I get to fill is only around 50 mb cause the rest 100 mb is being used by the rom applications, is there any way I could increase the size of my internal memory? can't install apps cause they say insufficient memory like if I have 30 mb left and the app size is around 17 mb it's still insufficient, thanks for the help!
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Use a *2sd script check the FAQ in my sig on how to do it should still work i would say.

Flash this script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21193121&postcount=174

yz.hd said:
Flash this script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21193121&postcount=174
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Would this script also work for IceCreamToasti 0.6 AOKP?
Cheers,
Evil

What is the difference between the ROM size and internal Memory RAM???

Hi Guys,
I have a Defy Plus with DFP-231 Asian Retail version ROM. I had some memory cleaning widget which shows that my applications could use a total of 350 MB memory.....
I thought that the D+ came with 2 GB internal memory so I could load upto ~2GB of games(apps) running. ...:crying:
With all this confusion...
My Question is : What is the Difference between The RAM and ROM and Why is my widget showing only 350 MB usable for apps???
Kindly correct me If I'm wrong in my assumptions.
Cheers,
Vic

do not confuse ram with rom. rom is the storage which stores installed apps and system files, its like the hdd in a pc, and it keeps its content when powered down.
ram is a temporary storage from where apps run, and it clears after a power-down. (memory in a pc)
the defy has 2gb built-in storage (rom), from which 1.2 is usable for apps, and it has 512MB ram (around 470-480 usable).
you probably have a lot of apps installed, thats why the widget shows only 350mb remaining.

Thank you for clearing this
zakoo2 said:
do not confuse ram with rom. rom is the storage which stores installed apps and system files, its like the hdd in a pc, and it keeps its content when powered down.
ram is a temporary storage from where apps run, and it clears after a power-down. (memory in a pc)
the defy has 2gb built-in storage (rom), from which 1.2 is usable for apps, and it has 512MB ram (around 470-480 usable).
you probably have a lot of apps installed, thats why the widget shows only 350mb remaining.
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Hi, :laugh:
Thank you very much for clearing this.. So does that mean when I install apps to my phone instead of SD card they get installed in RAM and not ROM????
Cheers,
Vic

vicky_ said:
Hi, :laugh:
Thank you very much for clearing this.. So does that mean when I install apps to my phone instead of SD card they get installed in RAM and not ROM????
Cheers,
Vic
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umm, no. they get installed in rOm, thats the permanent storage, ram is temporary. although there are solutions to install apps to sdcard. (app2sd, data2sd)

vicky_ said:
Hi Guys,
I have a Defy Plus with DFP-231 Asian Retail version ROM. I had some memory cleaning widget which shows that my applications could use a total of 350 MB memory.....
I thought that the D+ came with 2 GB internal memory so I could load upto ~2GB of games(apps) running. ...:crying:
With all this confusion...
My Question is : What is the Difference between The RAM and ROM and Why is my widget showing only 350 MB usable for apps???
Kindly correct me If I'm wrong in my assumptions.
Cheers,
Vic
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Usable for Apps means memory that can be used to store apps permanently.. It is the available ROM on your device. As stated before the 2GB memory is shared by OS & Apps.
RAM (512 MB on defy+) is temporary and is cleared on reboot and other activities.

How to unleash ROM memory?

My Atrix is with the stock rom and bootloader locked.
When I open Titanium Backup it shows me:
Memory ROM: 334 MB (9.34 MB free)
Internal: 2.11 GB (1.49 GB free)
SD: 11.5 GB (10.9 GB free)
I'm not sure due to the low MEMORY ROM, that when I try to install any app it returns me insufficient space message.
My doubt is to know the difference between the memory ROM and RAM memory, and if there is any way to increase the free memory that is shown in Titanium.

The ROM memory is for the ROM. it has nothing to do with apps you install. It's like drive C for windows, anything else you install is installed on a different partition. In the case of the Atrix that would be the 2GB internal memory.

balintmaci said:
if you used lucky patcher, update it.
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I have lucky patcher.
Do you talk to I update Titanium or Luck Patcher?
This is going to resolve the question about memory Rom?

t.Lancer said:
The ROM memory is for the ROM. it has nothing to do with apps you install. It's like drive C for windows, anything else you install is installed on a different partition. In the case of the Atrix that would be the 2GB internal memory.
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Other than that 2GB would act as memory like your "SD card" I guess.

[Q] Missing space?

Missing space?
Currently on omega v41 (lollipop)
Under system settings, storage, it shows me:
Used space: 6.35gb
When I click on that though, it shows me:
Apps: 1.81gb
Pictures/videos: 409mb
Audio:60kb
Downloads: 61mb
By my counting that's about 4gb of space missing... any idea?

download disk usage from play and it will tell you. great little app. I just recovered 7.5 gb of useless junk from my phone memory.