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[Q] internal storage

For some reason I don't have much memory left in my internal storage.
Already moved almost every app to SD.
What do i do?

Get a TMO US 1024 HD2
What rom are you running? Many of the later builds now incorporate a2sd+ or data2ext which frees up more space. This however involves having to partition your sd card. Check the threads out that have these terms in their titles.

ClydeB1 said:
Get a TMO US 1024 HD2
What rom are you running? Many of the later builds now incorporate a2sd+ or data2ext which frees up more space. This however involves having to partition your sd card. Check the threads out that have these terms in their titles.
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2.2 NAND.
What is TMO US 1024 HD2?
This is getting pretty annoying though. Moved every app to SD, can't install a game because the internal storage is low.
I found a thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528
But what are they? Noob here, don't know anything about such things... Is it a rom? Is it as stable as Android nand 2.2? Do I need to start from scratch to install it?

carazy1 said:
2.2 NAND.
What is TMO US 1024 HD2?
This is getting pretty annoying though. Moved every app to SD, can't install a game because the internal storage is low.
I found a thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528
But what are they? Noob here, don't know anything about such things... Is it a rom? Is it as stable as Android nand 2.2? Do I need to start from scratch to install it?
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2.2 NAND, but which one? There are many roms using 2.2 NAND.
There are 2 types of HD2, the standard one had 512mb memory and there is a T Mobile USA HD2 which has double ie 1024mb memory.
Yes, that rom is a 2.2 NAND rom (based on Desire HD build). Read the instructions carefully on the first post of that thread and you will have plenty of onboard memory left. You can also try the rom linked in my signature. I still have about 700mb left (I have a 1gb partition on my sd card for the data and apps) after installing a heap of apps.
You will need to start again as that rom uses a different installation method ie CWM instead of using daf.exe to flash via usb.

ClydeB1 said:
2.2 NAND, but which one? There are many roms using 2.2 NAND.
There are 2 types of HD2, the standard one had 512mb memory and there is a T Mobile USA HD2 which has double ie 1024mb memory.
Yes, that rom is a 2.2 NAND rom (based on Desire HD build). Read the instructions carefully on the first post of that thread and you will have plenty of onboard memory left. You can also try the rom linked in my signature. I still have about 700mb left (I have a 1gb partition on my sd card for the data and apps) after installing a heap of apps.
You will need to start again as that rom uses a different installation method ie CWM instead of using daf.exe to flash via usb.
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This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620&highlight=android+2.3
So I lose all my apps that are installed on the SD currently?
Apparently the internal memory on my HD2 is 119 Mb.
I'm surprised that it only has 119 mb total though. It is showing that on Titanium backup. Can't view the total internal storage size normally. Or did this happen due to that rom?

Weird stuff...

carazy1 said:
Weird stuff...
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Hi,
No, its not weird. Since european HD2 has only 512MB internal memory, so if you flash a rom it takes about half of your internal storage (depend on a rom you will use). In my case I had only 150mb after flash a rom and partition layout for CWM. That is why I use app2sd+ and installed all apps to sd card's extended partition and moved dalvik cache also to sd and now I have over 160MB free and all apps installed, including some games as well. If you are low on internal storage, you should try that.

carazy1 said:
This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620&highlight=android+2.3
So I lose all my apps that are installed on the SD currently?
Apparently the internal memory on my HD2 is 119 Mb.
I'm surprised that it only has 119 mb total though. It is showing that on Titanium backup. Can't view the total internal storage size normally. Or did this happen due to that rom?
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That is the very first NAND rom that was released and was more of a poc than anything else. Yes, it is probably normal after installing that rom that there is little space for apps on internal memory. Even if you use an app like App2sd, you are limited in terms of what can be moved. Try one of the more recent roms which allow you to partition your sd card and have that recognised by the rom as internal memory. That way you can have 1gb memory and no more problems. You can take a backup of your apps and restore them (apps only) after flashing the new rom.

ClydeB1 said:
You can take a backup of your apps and restore them (apps only) after flashing the new rom.
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Oh my god, thank you! was starting to get worried.
Also.. how do I backup again?

carazy1 said:
Oh my god, thank you! was starting to get worried.
Also.. how do I backup again?
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Use Titanium Backup or My Backup Root (both available from the market). If your rom is not rooted you will need to use z4root to root the rom first.

[Q] Help on SD Card EXT partition

I have installed many nand roms A2SD+ roms to be specific...in CWR i have partitioned the sd card by ext 1024 and 0 swap...and then flashed the rom by CWR...bt after flashing the rom i only get 127 of internal memory...i have seen video and snapshots the roms having 826mb or more of internal memory....please help....

radiance4524 said:
I have installed many nand roms A2SD+ roms to be specific...in CWR i have partitioned the sd card by ext 1024 and 0 swap...and then flashed the rom by CWR...bt after flashing the rom i only get 127 of internal memory...i have seen video and snapshots the roms having 826mb or more of internal memory....please help....
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After flashing the rom, and restoring the app2sd partition ?

i just want the internal memory should be high like 800mbs+ after flashing the rom....i have dont the partition of the sd card by 1024 and swap 0...the too i am not getting the high internal memory...

radiance4524 said:
i just want the internal memory should be high like 800mbs+ after flashing the rom....i have dont the partition of the sd card by 1024 and swap 0...the too i am not getting the high internal memory...
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You have a european hd2 or tmous ?

i have european hd2

radiance4524 said:
I have installed many nand roms A2SD+ roms to be specific...in CWR i have partitioned the sd card by ext 1024 and 0 swap...and then flashed the rom by CWR...bt after flashing the rom i only get 127 of internal memory...i have seen video and snapshots the roms having 826mb or more of internal memory....please help....
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The partition won't increase the amount of internal storage that shows up in Settings/Storage
Your phone will still tell you how much actual internal storage you have left, not how much is free in your partition.
You can see how much of the partition is used from Titanium Backup though

radiance4524 said:
i have european hd2
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Your internal memory should be 220 - 280 mb. You have an european hd2, which means that you have little bit more than 500 mb of internal memory. You flash android + partitioning cwm, that uses your internal memory too.
Are you using a sense rom?
if you are using a AOSP rom, use tthe 150/5 partition. You will have atleast 240 mb of internal memory.

check this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954369
it shows 860mb internal memory...please suggest how to get it....

On a fresh install with no apps downloaded/installed, on a TMOUS HD2, with a 130mb system partition, 860 mb of free space sounds about right.
On your Euro HD2, never gonna happen.
But when you use A2SD, you don't have to worry about your internal memory space, because the apps are not getting installed there. So you can install a ton of apps and your internal memory will only go down very slightly.
The way to check how much room you have left for apps when using A2SD is to use Titanium Backup to view your used/free space on your ext partition.
I have hundreds of apps installed in my ext3, my internal memory has gone down a total of like 5-10mb from what it was when I first flashed the ROM, and my phone still runs smooth as butter. If you have A2SD installed, Settings/Storage/Internal Memory doesn't mean much.

thankyou

huggs said:
The partition won't increase the amount of internal storage that shows up in Settings/Storage
Your phone will still tell you how much actual internal storage you have left, not how much is free in your partition.
You can see how much of the partition is used from Titanium Backup though
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Somewhat of a newb....I'm trying to flash Runnymed Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.5....what's the best partition to use and how do i do it in the Repartition tool within the HD2 Toolkit?
Thanks,
Tmobile US HTC HD2

[Q] Where is my memory going ?

I've xcd35 also known as zte blade. I've not installed many applications, still I see only around 25MB free space in my phone memory
What can be the reason for this ?

Have you taken a lot of photos or videos possibly and are those not being saved on the SD card?

Yes, i did took many photos but they are on my sd card.
Still I don't know where did the space go.. can anyone help me in getting back my space ?

Maybe you should install some app such as file manager from market (I can't provide a link, search "file manager", it's the first result by rhythm software). Then go ahead and select "Storage analysis" after clicking menu. It'll do a complete scan of your phone+SD-card and then shows you the biggest space hoarders.

I installed file manager and it says following,
device total memory: 162.5 M
device free memory : 24.57M
sd total memory: 1.86M
sd free memory: 1.15M
Also, it gives the biggest space holders, but all those are in my sd (like one app tak 570+ MB and my documents take 33M, both are in my sd).
the list all space holders includes the folders in sd card only.. How do I see status of internal memory ?

shek007 said:
I installed file manager and it says following,
device total memory: 162.5 M
device free memory : 24.57M
sd total memory: 1.86M
sd free memory: 1.15M
Also, it gives the biggest space holders, but all those are in my sd (like one app tak 570+ MB and my documents take 33M, both are in my sd).
the list all space holders includes the folders in sd card only.. How do I see status of internal memory ?
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Open CWM clear cache partition and then advanced clear dalvik cache and reboot it should clear your memory u must be surfing a lot on stock browser if even this didn't solve your problem reset your phone

What is cwm ? And where can I find it ?
Also, what is dalvik cache and how do I clear it ?

shek007 said:
What is cwm ? And where can I find it ?
Also, what is dalvik cache and how do I clear it ?
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clockworkmod rest is mentioned in the above post

shek007 said:
I installed file manager and it says following,
device total memory: 162.5 M
device free memory : 24.57M
sd total memory: 1.86M
sd free memory: 1.15M
Also, it gives the biggest space holders, but all those are in my sd (like one app tak 570+ MB and my documents take 33M, both are in my sd).
the list all space holders includes the folders in sd card only.. How do I see status of internal memory ?
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The 162.5MB is the total internal memory available for your apps and their data. The 24.57MB is how much of that is free at the moment. When you move an app to the sdcard, some of it is left behind on the internal memory, so you can't get rid of all of it. You can increase the amount of internal memory available by creating an ext partition on your sdcard (though it looks like you only have a 2GB sdcard, so you wouldn't have much space left for music etc. on it) and then using something like darktremor a2sd to move your apps to the new ext partition. This works differently from the normal move to sdcard as it allows you to move the whole app so frees more space.
The other option is repartitioning the internal memory. This means you take some of the space from where the rom is installed, and add it to the data partition so you can make use of it. For this to work well you need to use/be using a custom rom as the stock ones wont fit in the reduced space.
saaransh9 said:
Open CWM clear cache partition and then advanced clear dalvik cache and reboot it should clear your memory u must be surfing a lot on stock browser if even this didn't solve your problem reset your phone
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This isn't really a long term solution. The dalvik cache is needed by the phone, so wiping it will only temporarily give you more space until the phone rebuilds it all once you use your apps again. The cache partition is separate from the data partition, so wiping that would make no difference to how much space you have available.

shek007 said:
What is cwm ? And where can I find it ?
Also, what is dalvik cache and how do I clear it ?
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Which ROM you are working on? It seems like you have stock ROM as you are unaware of CWM. If you are using stock rom, you need to switch to any custom rom to flash darktremor a2sd so that you can partition you sd card and install applications on them. You can get complete tutorial on installing CWM and custom rom from cyanogenmod website. You can uninstall bloatwares if there any to free your phone memory.

Amphoras said:
The 162.5MB is the total internal memory available for your apps and their data. The 24.57MB is how much of that is free at the moment. When you move an app to the sdcard, some of it is left behind on the internal memory, so you can't get rid of all of it. You can increase the amount of internal memory available by creating an ext partition on your sdcard (though it looks like you only have a 2GB sdcard, so you wouldn't have much space left for music etc. on it) and then using something like darktremor a2sd to move your apps to the new ext partition. This works differently from the normal move to sdcard as it allows you to move the whole app so frees more space.
The other option is repartitioning the internal memory. This means you take some of the space from where the rom is installed, and add it to the data partition so you can make use of it. For this to work well you need to use/be using a custom rom as the stock ones wont fit in the reduced space.
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I can change my sd card to 16 or 32 GB .
That is not a problem..
Now, can you please tell me how do I do external partitioning ?
or how do I do repartitioning of internal memory?
zajith said:
Which ROM you are working on? It seems like you have stock ROM as you are unaware of CWM. If you are using stock rom, you need to switch to any custom rom to flash darktremor a2sd so that you can partition you sd card and install applications on them. You can get complete tutorial on installing CWM and custom rom from cyanogenmod website. You can uninstall bloatwares if there any to free your phone memory.
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I'm using dafult one I guess.. As I never install any rom before..

shek007 said:
I can change my sd card to 16 or 32 GB .
That is not a problem..
Now, can you please tell me how do I do external partitioning ?
or how do I do repartitioning of internal memory?
I'm using dafult one I guess.. As I never install any rom before..
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You need to root and install a custom rom to partition both internal as well as external memory efficiently. You can flash darktremor a2sd script that allows you to install apps on partitioned sd card to your rooted stock rom but it won't work (didn't work for me).
Almost all the custom rom come with darktremor a2sd pre-installed on it. So it is advised to switch to any custom rom. But beware, both rooting and installing custom rom will void your warranty. Once you install a custom rom, i'm sure you will love it.
You can find guide on partitioning internal memory on the following links
h**p://android.modaco.com/topic/339048-guide-flashing-firmware-to-bladelibra-via-windows/
and here
h**p://android.modaco.com/topic/337426-gen1gen2partition-layout-tool-windows-only/
But i personally won't recommend partitioning you internal memory as the following ICS rom uses the default like partition.
You can follow the following link below to root and flash cyanogenmod
h**p://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=ZTE_Blade
If you find rooting steps given in the guide difficult you can install z4root from following link and install it on your phone to root the phone easily.
h**p://www.4shared.com/file/TA3fZuTc/z4root_zte_blade_permanent_roo.html
Once you install cyanogenmod install "ROM MANAGER" from market and there you will find the option to partition your sd card.
Regards...

shek007 said:
I can change my sd card to 16 or 32 GB .
That is not a problem..
Now, can you please tell me how do I do external partitioning ?
or how do I do repartitioning of internal memory?
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You can partition the sdcard from ClockworkMod recovery, which you need to flash the custom rom or the darktremor scripts to make use of the ext partition. Some roms come with it pre-installed, others you have to flash it separately.
You can repartition the internal memory by TPT or Windows flasher. TPT is the easier and safer method. From your internal memory stats you posted earlier, it looks like you are stock Gen 2, but download the Mr Pigfish app from the market to check.
If it says you are Gen 1, then you can use one of wbaw's TPTs from his thread on here, or you can use them from my app. Once you use one of these, you will be converted to Gen 2 as well.
If you are Gen 2 already then you are most likely stock Gen 2 and will need to use the TPT's from my app (choosing the stock Gen 2 option when it starts), from the thread I made on here, or by using the Windows flasher.

Here's a tip that I just recently discovered.
Since apps that are flashed in your rom (like Market) cannot be deleted in a conventional sense, a duplicate of the app is created whenever they are updated. I found an app called apps2rom that moves the updated version to the rom, and deletes the old version.
I got a good 10mb from that.

[Q] Internal Memory Low Space on ICS 2.4.27-HWA

I have installed MIUI.us-Leo-2.4.27-HWA.ZIP in to my HTC HD2. Everything is working fine except Camera and phones internal memory is very low, only 25MB resulting cannot update any existing applications.
My phones total internal memory memory is 151MB and available is only 25MB.
SD card total space is 15GB and available is 9GB which is fine.
Total downloaded applications are 26 only, so it is not that I have too many application downloaded.
I moved most of the downloaded and other applications to SD card by using titanium backup. Few could not be moved for unknown reason as it does not give me option to move.
Can anyone please help me to increase my internal memory to at least at 70 or 60MB please.
Would appreciate your help.
Ronju Khan.
Dhaka, Bangladesh

i have used a few MIUI roms & did not have that problem
what is the data.img that you used?
are you using NAND rom? in that case what was the size of the partition you used, did you follow the recommended size?

Internal Space Low
mengfei said:
i have used a few MIUI roms & did not have that problem
what is the data.img that you used?
are you using NAND rom? in that case what was the size of the partition you used, did you follow the recommended size?
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Yes, it is NAND ROM. The recommended partition was above 200mb and I used 250mb, so it was okay.
All I need to increase my internal space at least to 60 or 70mb so that application update can be done.
Many thanks

The ROM suggested 200, but you installed 250. You just lost 50 worth o internal storage.
You'll need to install an A2SD script, in order to be able to use your sd card as an internal storage. (of course, after making an ext2 partition )

Marvlesz said:
The ROM suggested 200, but you installed 250. You just lost 50 worth o internal storage.
You'll need to install an A2SD script, in order to be able to use your sd card as an internal storage. (of course, after making an ext2 partition )
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Why ext2 he will face a lot of problems use ext4 for best speed
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA

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Thealshear said:
Why ext2 he will face a lot of problems use ext4 for best speed
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA
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I have A2SDGUI installed but don't know how to use this to increase internal space .Please advise me in details how do I perform ext4. I will be very much grateful to you. Will wait for your response.
Many thanks.

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Marvlesz said:
The ROM suggested 200, but you installed 250. You just lost 50 worth o internal storage.
You'll need to install an A2SD script, in order to be able to use your sd card as an internal storage. (of course, after making an ext2 partition )
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Marvlesz, I looked for 200MB partition but could not find anywhere. That's why I installed 250MB. There are only 3 options they gave which is 150MB, 250MB & 400MB. Please suggest me in details how I would be able to do ext2 or ext4 using A2SD

What is the difference between the ROM size and internal Memory RAM???

Hi Guys,
I have a Defy Plus with DFP-231 Asian Retail version ROM. I had some memory cleaning widget which shows that my applications could use a total of 350 MB memory.....
I thought that the D+ came with 2 GB internal memory so I could load upto ~2GB of games(apps) running. ...:crying:
With all this confusion...
My Question is : What is the Difference between The RAM and ROM and Why is my widget showing only 350 MB usable for apps???
Kindly correct me If I'm wrong in my assumptions.
Cheers,
Vic

do not confuse ram with rom. rom is the storage which stores installed apps and system files, its like the hdd in a pc, and it keeps its content when powered down.
ram is a temporary storage from where apps run, and it clears after a power-down. (memory in a pc)
the defy has 2gb built-in storage (rom), from which 1.2 is usable for apps, and it has 512MB ram (around 470-480 usable).
you probably have a lot of apps installed, thats why the widget shows only 350mb remaining.

Thank you for clearing this
zakoo2 said:
do not confuse ram with rom. rom is the storage which stores installed apps and system files, its like the hdd in a pc, and it keeps its content when powered down.
ram is a temporary storage from where apps run, and it clears after a power-down. (memory in a pc)
the defy has 2gb built-in storage (rom), from which 1.2 is usable for apps, and it has 512MB ram (around 470-480 usable).
you probably have a lot of apps installed, thats why the widget shows only 350mb remaining.
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Hi, :laugh:
Thank you very much for clearing this.. So does that mean when I install apps to my phone instead of SD card they get installed in RAM and not ROM????
Cheers,
Vic

vicky_ said:
Hi, :laugh:
Thank you very much for clearing this.. So does that mean when I install apps to my phone instead of SD card they get installed in RAM and not ROM????
Cheers,
Vic
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umm, no. they get installed in rOm, thats the permanent storage, ram is temporary. although there are solutions to install apps to sdcard. (app2sd, data2sd)

vicky_ said:
Hi Guys,
I have a Defy Plus with DFP-231 Asian Retail version ROM. I had some memory cleaning widget which shows that my applications could use a total of 350 MB memory.....
I thought that the D+ came with 2 GB internal memory so I could load upto ~2GB of games(apps) running. ...:crying:
With all this confusion...
My Question is : What is the Difference between The RAM and ROM and Why is my widget showing only 350 MB usable for apps???
Kindly correct me If I'm wrong in my assumptions.
Cheers,
Vic
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Usable for Apps means memory that can be used to store apps permanently.. It is the available ROM on your device. As stated before the 2GB memory is shared by OS & Apps.
RAM (512 MB on defy+) is temporary and is cleared on reboot and other activities.