can we get this on hero/g2 ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMlDEThW34w
basically u can control your phone with the nokia wiimote via bluetooth. it will be good for playing games and emu
any dev out there?
ermacwins said:
can we get this on hero/g2 ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMlDEThW34w
basically u can control your phone with the nokia wiimote via bluetooth. it will be good for playing games and emu
any dev out there?
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The devs for that only thought of A2DP... they didn't think of implementing the rest of the BT profiles... :-(
Donut? Eclaire? Or maybe Flan? I bet my next turd on some more letters in the alphabet for that to happen...
I mean... BT is an open standard ffs... but no... Google have a bunch of trained monkeys eating bananans all day...
in english please lol
ermacwins said:
in english please lol
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I'd be kicked and banned from this forum if I gave you that in plain English...
The way to "talk" to devices that are equiped with Bluetooth radios is open source, ie "everyone" can use that information for their own purposes. In this case there already exists some well defined Bluetooth "profiles" (protocols) which defines how sound should be communicated between devices (the A2DP profile takes care of this). Google has only implemented support for the A2DP profile in Android 1.5 (aka "Cupcake"). They haven't put in support for anything else.
But third parties (guys/organisations like Cyanogen, JesusFreak(sp) and MoDaCo) have found a way to get the kernel in Android to use third party BT profiles. But this involes "rooting" the device. Not everyone is prepared to do that (myself included).
This is why I (and many more) are badmouthing Google. I didn't say I hate Google. But I will say that they should implement a full BT stack ASAP.
so mobipad is possible but needs root?
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=B9s2JqmvYQE
So, I saw this on youtube. Looks like bluesnarfing has come a long way since I last tried! Anyway, the writing is in Spanish or something and I can't for the life of me work out what app this guy is using?!?! Any ideas?
Anyone know any good apps for Bluesnarfing/general bluetooth management? I hate the bluetooth management on the Wizard.
Looks very interesting. Most bluesnarfing utilities are generally for linux, but to find one for win CE would be pretty nifty
Although my Spanish is virtually zero 8) I have tried to follow links on give page.
I have found this: http://gospel.endorasoft.es/seguridad/Files/PocketBluesnarfer.ARM.XScale.zip. Just downloaded and going to test on my Wizard. However, the website says Win Mobile 2002-2003 so we'll see...
well, it didn't work for me Don't know if the problem lies in different BT stack in PPC2003/WM5 or something else.
Darn. Gunna give this java application a go when I get back later:
http://trifinite.org/trifinite_stuff_blooover.html
I tried bloover, but I could never get it to work. The PDA the guy was using looked like a Dell x30.
No idea what was going on in that video, those Dell PDA's are cool, friend has a 624 mhz one. Liked the music.
I use Smurf to do BlueJacking :twisted: The SmartPhone version works just fine on my Cingular 8125 (and did on my former qtek 9100). get it at http://www.gatefold.co.uk/smurf/
Maybe someone can hack this app to do full-on BlueSnarfing 8)
SkyyBoy, does this app allow you to look at other peoples documents on their phones, eg images...or is it only to message people?
it says on the web site that the app will always run in the background, is it possible to end the app by using the stop all tasks button in the settings>memory option?
I really would like more bluetooth options. I notice that it really struggles to connect to some Samsung devices.
Also, why can't we set which folder we want incoming files to be saved to (like on the Blue Angel) or to require authorization/authentication depending on which one you desire.
A remote file browser like on the Blue Angel would be lovely too. I thought the Microsoft BT stack was free to use in apps (unlike the Widcomm one whic developers had to pay to use) so people could make their own apps. C'mon people! There is a serious gap in the market for a bluesnarfing app!
I think it would have been possible with the network browser in Resco Explorer, but the bluetooth function is incompatible with the Wizard
I wouldn't expect to get those kinda results all the time to be honest.
From what I remember it was revealed that older SE phones (such as the T68i in this video) had some kinda falw in the Bluetooth Stack (??) that made them easy targets for Bluesnarfing... however I used to have one of these phones in the olden days p) and even if you find someone with one the bluetooth cannot be set to be permanatnley discoverable... you can only make it discoverable for 5 mins at a time (the amoutn of minutes may be different).
Forum search down today, so sorry if this is on forums, but I could not find "google-ing."
Have any of you used this software with Jasjar. Latest version can be used with PPC and even can be used with BT devices which I interpret as being able to be used with my BT headset. But wanted some opeions before I splurge. I am a student (philosophy) so writing papers while walk in the sunshine state seems like a well worth venture. But how accurate is it with PPC and BT headset (Inside and outside)? 90%, 80%, 70%, etc., accurate?
DNS on PDA
All the software allows you to do is convert recored files on your desktop. I would imagine you could use the bluetooth headset to record.
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All the software allows you to do is convert recored files on your desktop. I would imagine you could use the bluetooth headset to record.
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then what is this? He seems to be dictating.
http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2006/11/01.html
[edit] actually, this seems to be nuance voicecontrol I believe. Still, it should do what you want.
ps. Not a good idea to put your email addy in your username if you don't want spam. Googleing your username brings up 4 results cached by the spiders already, which means that spam crawlers already have it, but changing it would still be good advice.
Now I haven't done a ton of development, only real basic stuff only to tinker and learn, but I had an idea for what I would imagine would be a pretty sweet app for WM Phones.
An XBox Interface Application, that would offer a bunch of features for people with XBox Live. What I was thinking was:
Ability to see XBL buddy list
Ability to read and respond to mail
Ability to use the keyboard on the phone to communicate with people on XBL (like the little MS keyboard for XBL)
Ability to use the phone as a "headset", to talk to people on XBL out loud
Access the XBL Marketplace, to purchase items to be downloaded to your XBox the next time it connects (as you can do over the internet now)
I was thinking that it would interface to the XBox using Bluetooth, as I believe that is what their controllers use to talk right now. I think MS could throw their weight behind it and develop this App as it could probably convince some people to look at WM phones over competitors. I don't care about iFart apps, I just want good usable apps that people will want!
And sorry if this is the wrong section to post. It seemed correct to me, but if it isn't please move and I won't be a repeat offender!
Jason
Some of those can be achieved (viewing achievements, buddies), but i dont think that you could use your device as a keyboard without modifying the software on the xbox too (doing that probably gets you banned from XBL). Voice chat would be impractical as you would have to hold the phone whilst playing, which is why a headset is a better idea.
Maybe you can look for it in windows 7, but for the time being, i would suggest just bookmarking the MS website where i beleive you can log in and do everything except use the device as a keyboard or voice chat.
i Like the heaset idea, but it would be better if your not there and can join a party and talk to them while your not at your console.
Another awesome idea:
Make my phone cook for me
Too bad both my idea and your idea can't happen.
I dunno, I think Microsoft could make it work if they decide to put it to the effort. And what I meant by the voice chat is having the phone wirelessly connected to the XBox, then using a headset attached to the phone to voicechat on (since I have all of these old handfree kits floating around that I rarely use, they fall out too easily when I'm walking my dogs, but while sitting there playing rockband I could get one of those to stay in).
Jason
So I was running through the source code for the Behold 2 Kernel.
I found: kernel\drivers\ps3
with files inside to control/manage the PS3 system. (Turn on, off, etc)
Is there a way to activate those drivers and actually connect your phone through bluetooth to the PS3 and control it? On, Off and move around in the menu?
That would be pretty interesting... specially if you can get Remote Play to work on an android device!
Wow, if this is true then i'll definitely get an android phone to play with!
I guess not many people with ps3's around here. I'd love to have some sort of interaction with my ps3.
I'd really like this functionality too.
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So I was running through the source code for the Behold 2 Kernel.
I found: kernel\drivers\ps3
with files inside to control/manage the PS3 system. (Turn on, off, etc)
Is there a way to activate those drivers and actually connect your phone through bluetooth to the PS3 and control it? On, Off and move around in the menu?
That would be pretty interesting... specially if you can get Remote Play to work on an android device!
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I think that the catch with android and bluetooth keyboard/mouse support was the lack of the HID profile. If the behold actually has that built in custom it would unlock a lot more than just ps3 support, but I'd love that too.
They have managed to port the Remote Play features to MS Windows so it must be possible to port it to a Linux based OS (i.e.. Android)
Tawm said:
They have managed to port the Remote Play features to MS Windows so it must be possible to port it to a Linux based OS (i.e.. Android)
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There has to be a way. The Kernel source codes come with PS3 Modules built by sony. The PS3 itself runs on linux (original ps3s even support installing linux operating systems)
I believe someone would need to activate those modules and rebuild a kernel, then someone needs to build an APP to take advantage of those features.
For sure we can connect through bluetooth and turn on/off the system and navigate the menu... That much the modules tell you. But again we need an APP for it too.
Thats cool if you can controller the ps3 i would buy an app for that
me too!
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I'm eagerly waiting for this functionality to reach the Android platform too. Perhaps, now when SonyEricsson is focusing on the Android platform we'll see this kind of functionality implemented into a Android based device soon, and perhaps then ported to other devices.
Best case scenario would in my eyes of course be that the Android platform itself would support necessary HID profiles. I know that Android 2.X supports more Bluetooth stacks than previous versions, but that doesn't help I suppose..?
This company is making an app to use external bluetooth keyboards as an input device for Android. Maybe we can see if they could also make one for Android to control other devices such as the PS3. I just posted on their forum to ask if they could do this (if even possible):
http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5247#5247
I for one can't wait for the day that I can use my Android phone to input text on my PS3.
EDIT: they already replied. that was fast! ...so it's do-able but need "community interest" before investing. [hint, hint]
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..so it's do-able but need "community interest" before investing.
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*shows interest*
xPatriicK said:
*shows interest*
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we all should post to that forum to show as much interest as possible.
yeah, this would be great, if not by blutooth, even if we had to plug it in usb I would be fine with that.
*shows interest*
bluemaemo should work as the N900 is running on linux too:
http://www.valeriovalerio.org/?page_id=174
Turn your android mobile device into a bluetooth keyboard huh... *shows money*
maybe we should start a poll and link them to it... id pay to use my G1 as a bluetooth keyboard & touchpad on my ps3
Is there a way to do the contrary? I mean, control your phone with a PS3 controller, for games?
mrandroid said:
So I was running through the source code for the Behold 2 Kernel.
I found: kernel\drivers\ps3
with files inside to control/manage the PS3 system. (Turn on, off, etc)
Is there a way to activate those drivers and actually connect your phone through bluetooth to the PS3 and control it? On, Off and move around in the menu?
That would be pretty interesting... specially if you can get Remote Play to work on an android device!
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I do/did some research and worked on a Linux OS based on some code from the PS3-Linux project, a collaboration between Sony and the open-source community to help port Linux to the Cell Broadband Engine architecture and the Playstation 3. If you look, on the XrossMediaBar of old "fat" PS3's, under Settings > System Settings, there's an option for "Install Other OS" and "Select Default System". It was dropped/suspended indefinitely on development of the slim PS3's, to save time and money (since the slim PS3 re-does some central things in the I/O architecture, requiring a new hypervisor to be programmed.)
I'm actually considering porting the Android OS to the Playstation 3 sometime in the future, as a media-center, games and apps environment alternative to the PS3's OS. It will likely be based on my experience with the Electricsheep android firmware, another one of my projects.
Android, though built with touch in mind, works fine with a directional control and menu keys, not unlike the PS3 controller. A virtual mouse built on the right analog stick won't hurt either. Sixaxis provides the accelerometer, too. Not sure how it'll fare at 1080p resolution, but I'll wait 'till I get it ported to test that.
What I'm guessing, is that either someone else was considering the same thing, and pushed the drivers for the PS3's hypervisor and I/O from the mainline kernel into Android, or just left that in there and forgot to remove it.
But no, I don't believe said drivers are actually for remote-controlling the PS3 either by Bluetooth or Remote Play. They're likely not even compiled on builds for mobile phones (unless someone makes a Cell-phone.. hehe... eh.. *ahem*)
Anyway, if someone else already said this, I'm sorry, but I didn't read the entire thread. It's kinda long.
Also:
blackplatypus said:
bluemaemo should work as the N900 is running on linux too:
http://www.valeriovalerio.org/?page_id=174
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Maemo could and probably would run on the G1: the basis for my Utopia Pocket Linux project.
Hello,
I started developing games for android a month ago, now Im wondering am I able to create a game such as super smash bros. for android that uses Bluetooth to communicate and play? The game will be mainly for tablet but will be adapted toward Mobile Phones.
Regards,
Tripplemin
tripplemin said:
Hello,
I started developing games for android a month ago, now Im wondering am I able to create a game such as super smash bros. for android that uses Bluetooth to communicate and play? The game will be mainly for tablet but will be adapted toward Mobile Phones.
Regards,
Tripplemin
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Yes you can - Android supports standard Bluetooth API for peer-to-peer communication, typically using sockets over bluetooth l2cap protocol. This means you could also communicate with non-Android devices but not iOS - it does not support these API's.
Implementation is not too difficult, particularly if you are familiar with doing sockets in Java.
On the other hand, you will probably encounter wonkiness. One issue is various implementation bugs, which are different on the different manufacturers because they implement their own Bluetooth drivers and stacks.
Also, the Bluetooth protocol supports a master-slave architecture. A master can coordinate communication with up to 7 slaves, but operates poorly/inefficiently if it is simultaneously operating as a slave to another master (or the master of 2 piconets at the same time).
In practical terms this means that it will work best if none of the devices playing the game are simultaneously using Bluetooth for e.g. tethering, controller, headset, google glasses....
Also, what happens if the master of the piconet (probably the person who initiated the first connection) stop laying and leaves... how quickly and with what prodding from your app will a new piconet form?
Looking at what I have written I realize I am probably putting you off the idea, and I'm not sure if that is fair - while I've done Bluetooth on Android and have done all the weird piconet stuff on raw Linux, I have not personally encountered the issues I'm describing on Android (just Linux). So I'm partially conjecturing and would be happy if someone else who had tried these permutations on Android wanted to correct me...
QUESTION?
Thank you so much for yur reply and I would like to contact you in the future so would you please give me your email address?
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tripplemin
tripplemin said:
Thank you so much for yur reply and I would like to contact you in the future so would you please give me your email address?
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tripplemin
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Ask in the forum. This is what this is made for.
Everyone knows different things. You will get the best help here because there are many people seeing your question here.
THAN YOU!
Oh ok....and I love XDA, it brings developers to help each other..
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