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Cingular 8525 with T-Mobile

Hello,
I have been using an unlocked Singular 8525 with my T-Mobile SIM. I have some questions if anyone can help:
1) I can not open any attachments and get an error saying that there was an internal error opening the attachment. The attachment size looks like "0B"
2) I do not know the MMS settings for T-Mobile. I have been unsuccessful in setting that up.
3) Is it true that to use the 3G features of a phone, I would need a 3G SIM?
4) Do you think it is feasible to just format the phone and load it with the T-Mobile MDA software since both the phones use the same software?
Thank You,
Tony

muntaer said:
Hello,
I have been using an unlocked Singular 8525 with my T-Mobile SIM. I have some questions if anyone can help:
1) I can not open any attachments and get an error saying that there was an internal error opening the attachment. The attachment size looks like "0B"
2) I do not know the MMS settings for T-Mobile. I have been unsuccessful in setting that up.
3) Is it true that to use the 3G features of a phone, I would need a 3G SIM?
4) Do you think it is feasible to just format the phone and load it with the T-Mobile MDA software since both the phones use the same software?
Thank You,
Tony
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If your having trouble with the T-Mobile US settings use the cab file in my signature should work for you, next time look around and search rather then starting a new thread, this is posted all over or try and search in networking forum for your answer in regards to settings.

muntaer said:
Hello,
I have been using an unlocked Singular 8525 with my T-Mobile SIM. I have some questions if anyone can help:
1) I can not open any attachments and get an error saying that there was an internal error opening the attachment. The attachment size looks like "0B"
2) I do not know the MMS settings for T-Mobile. I have been unsuccessful in setting that up.
3) Is it true that to use the 3G features of a phone, I would need a 3G SIM?
4) Do you think it is feasible to just format the phone and load it with the T-Mobile MDA software since both the phones use the same software?
Thank You,
Tony
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I also have TMobile with an 8525 Cingular
You have purchased the data plan correct? The monthly internet plan...
1. Have you called Tmobile about this?
2. I called them and withing 30 minutes i was doing fine...
3. That is true, you wont have 3g speeds becuase tmobile doesnt have 3d service yet. they told my about the end of the summer... but whatever.
4. im not advanced like most people on this forum, i have no idea.

Mog said:
I also have TMobile with an 8525 Cingular
You have purchased the data plan correct? The monthly internet plan...
1. Have you called Tmobile about this?
2. I called them and withing 30 minutes i was doing fine...
3. That is true, you wont have 3g speeds becuase tmobile doesnt have 3d service yet. they told my about the end of the summer... but whatever.
4. im not advanced like most people on this forum, i have no idea.
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nope no 3g service yet. but even when they do have it you wont be able to use it with your 8525. their 3g rollout i believe will be on the 1700mhz band. 8525 doesnt support that band.
also the connection settings for the total internet plan are
internet2.voicestream.com (not wap.voicestream.com)
check this thread for mms settings
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298222

I have a 8525 and T-Mobile Total Internet, but...
Here's the settings that I tried per suggestion of this site and others:
Network name: T-Mobile Data
Access point: internet2.voicestream.com
UN/PW: (blank)
Proxy: none
This did not work with Internet Explorer. My email setup for IMAP mail through GMail worked though. So I tried this:
Access point: internet2.voicestream.com
UN/PW: (blank)
Proxy: HTTP=216.155.165.50:8080
This also did not work with IE. So I tried this:
Proxy: HTTP (same as above), WAP=216.155.165.50:9201, Secure WAP=216.155.165.50:9201
Same thing, didn't work. I changed the access point to wap.voicestream.com, and IE works but it always wants to use the WSP protocol (not the case when I use a standard WiFi connection and I thought this would change when I got the Total Internet package)
I thought that I wouldn't need to set up proxy server settings on my phone at all when I got Total Internet. Any thoughts as to why I still have to? I had TMobileweb before and had to enter the proxy servers before.

Don't let TMobile tell you Wing users cannot add TZones.

I just called T-Mobile to add the $5.99/month T-Zones web plan for my Wing, however the rep told me that this plan is not available for accounts with the wing phone. She then tried to sell me the $19.99 data plan, which I declined.
After paging through MyTMoblie account, I found that nowhere does it even mention the $5.99 plan.
To add the plan, you must click the "Not your phone?" link in the upper right hand corner of your MyTMoblie account after logging in. Change your phone to something which will be compatible with the tzones, I picked the RAZR V3. This doesn't give you an upgrade phone, you're not buying anything, this is just TMobile's way of tracking which phone you are using.
Now under the "My Account" tab, choose "Change serves" and add the $5.99 tzones web plan!
Hope I can help someone else out!

i dont think there the same speed but i could be wrong

morbid said:
i dont think there the same speed but i could be wrong
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What are the same speed? The RAZR and the Wing?
It doesn't matter, the Tzones works for any phone configured with the correct proxy, but some reps want you to go for the $20/month full internet plan. If you heavily use the net on your phone, then maybe the full plan would be best for you, but if you are only a lite user, the 5.99 is much more practical for e-mail, weather, etc.

i have the 5.99 plan and i cannot use email or weather.
how do you use it?

search!
kidnamedAlbert said:
i have the 5.99 plan and i cannot use email or weather.
how do you use it?
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You can use the search button here to look up t-mobile Proxy. There have been numerous threads on how to set up the proxy in Windows Mobile
I have been using this proxy for a long time.. I started with tzones back when it was 4.99... glad I save a whole dollar every month.. gonna be rich soon!

Any way to get the T-zones wap browser back once you've flashed your Wing? T-Mobile has closed the proxy hole, and now I'd like to test out T-MobileWeb and see if I like it or if I should drop the $5.99

yea, my wing wont use t-zones... every website comes back with a can't b displayed or w/e it say's....
any1 with us service that uses it till this very day fine??
cuz i got it taken off my account... wondering if i should give it another try

It's been working for me since November 2007, I am in the Northeast USA.
Other than not being able to access Hotmail/MSN Messenger/HTC Home weather, everything else works.

I have been using the T-zones proxy for over 1 year in MN with no problem. I have flashed numerous roms in that time and have no problem setting it back up each time. I also use internet quite often and don't find it to be much, if any slower than the 20 dollar service.

Also, if you flash Trans Open-Touch V6.5 and use throttle launcher the weather will work properly even with the proxy. I have not been able to get it to work with HTC home though.

how to config in g1 for t-zone plan?

how to do that??how to insert diferent data?

Go to Settings
Go to Wireless Controls
Go to Mobile Networks
Then select ACCESS POINT NAMES
From there press MENU
Select NEW APN
From there you can input all the settings, then press Menu to SAVE or DISCARD

thanks but i did that, but can not navegate, i created
name: T-Zone
APN: wap.voicestream.com
Proxy: 216.155.165.50
Port: 8080
APN type: http
for default MCC=310 MNC=260
-question. i need all apn that coming with the phone?
-how the phone select the apn that will use?
thanks
nxt said:
Go to Settings
Go to Wireless Controls
Go to Mobile Networks
Then select ACCESS POINT NAMES
From there press MENU
Select NEW APN
From there you can input all the settings, then press Menu to SAVE or DISCARD
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Dream on 2.99 T-zones data plan partially working
Hello - I was wondering if anyone else there is still on the 2.99 T-zones data plan or 5.99 data plan with the dream. I put in the wap.voicestream.com APN and the proxy so now the browser works but no email or google maps or anythign else.
With epc.tmobile.com I have no data.
Anyone else seeing the same results?
This is weird becuase on my unlocked iphone everything works great with epc.tmobile.com

t-zones on the dream? thats like putting hubcaps on a bently. it just ain't right.

same for me the only email that work with 5.99plan is yahoo, for gmail and for hotmail i use live connection and some time give me fail connection but almost time work
viprvette said:
Hello - I was wondering if anyone else there is still on the 2.99 T-zones with the dream. I put in the wap.voicestream.com APN and the proxy so now the browser works but no email or google maps or anythign else.
With epc.tmobile.com I have no data.
Anyone else seeing the same results?
This is weird becuase on my unlocked iphone everything works great with epc.tmobile.com
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i did , only have to leave in blank (apn type) and worked,
satru said:
thanks but i did that, but can not navegate, i created
name: T-Zone
APN: wap.voicestream.com
Proxy: 216.155.165.50
Port: 8080
APN type: http
for default MCC=310 MNC=260
-question. i need all apn that coming with the phone?
-how the phone select the apn that will use?
thanks
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double thread

I put in the old wap.voicestream.com and the proxy. I am only getting the browser to work and it does work on 3g. Everything else times out...(google maps, email, etc..)
anyone else get it to work?

donutman said:
t-zones on the dream? thats like putting hubcaps on a bently. it just ain't right.
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Nah its just the name of the plan from 6 years ago. Through the proxy it opens up the ports. I use etc.tmobile.com on my unlocked iphone and everything works.....I wonder what is different....

donutman said:
t-zones on the dream? thats like putting hubcaps on a bently. it just ain't right.
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Lol that's the best thing i've heard in a while. Mind if i quote it in my sig and on my website?

tokomoto said:
Lol that's the best thing i've heard in a while. Mind if i quote it in my sig and on my website?
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go ahead I don't mind at all.

I hope T-Mobile shuts off all of these free riders

were not free riders were just people who are smart enough to make the system work for us. If your in an engineering position and your able to get the same effect from a lower costing material, you would be stupid not to, and most likely fired. A person who takes tax breaks when hes paying his taxes is not stupid, but he is essentially doing the same thing we are. dont hate just because we are able to pay less for the same result you are getting. thats just my 2 cents, and im hoping the tzones plan will work on the dream as it has on my wing, 8525 and Dash.

molesaied88 said:
were not free riders were just people who are smart enough to make the system work for us. If your in an engineering position and your able to get the same effect from a lower costing material, you would be stupid not to, and most likely fired. A person who takes tax breaks when hes paying his taxes is not stupid, but he is essentially doing the same thing we are. dont hate just because we are able to pay less for the same result you are getting. thats just my 2 cents, and im hoping the tzones plan will work on the dream as it has on my wing, 8525 and Dash.
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So you're saying T-Zones will be on 3G? Sorry, but I am fully aware on how to do this. Nothing to do with ignorance. The system isn't "working" for you and your analogies are far off.
"If you can steal a big screen TV and pay the employee 100 bucks to look the other way, why pay full price for it" would be a much better analogy.
But either way, it may work for awhile longer at 2G speeds. I am sure that it won't be indefinite though. T-Mobile knows what phone you're using by it's IMEI. They're not stupid and will figure out your "black box" method. Would be awesome if they back-charged you for theft of service.

viprvette said:
I put in the old wap.voicestream.com and the proxy. I am only getting the browser to work and it does work on 3g. Everything else times out...(google maps, email, etc..)
anyone else get it to work?
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Soo you can still use the brower and it will be at 3G speed with the only 5.99 trick ? if i can get this confirmed i may get the G1 =] im on a T-Mo Wing now =]
Edit: My guess is with time there will be a way to use the Maps software as well.. i dont rly care about email, just browser and Maps ( maybe some apps that need internet access but i think that will be the easiest of all to adjust, Maybe a 3rd party maps software will emerge ?)
Edit2: Also since you guys are talking about it i guess you can get the G1 without adding the data plan (i thought it was required) can u activate the device w/o the G1 data plan ( i know it needs to connect to google acct n etc )
Thanks in advance

there are not free rider because are paying 5.99 for tzone.nothing is free in this country. and of course can't run a lot of program that the other plans where you pay more money can do.
momentarylapseofreason said:
I hope T-Mobile shuts off all of these free riders
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about this plan in g1, the new phone can use 3g,edge etc. all depend of you contract with tmobil. if you plan use full internet,mail etc, you phone will have to use 3g for communicate because you are paying for that, they have in you config account that you can use this feature, BUT if you plan is simple for ej tzone the phone will work with edge only because when it try to connect with 3g speed, you plan dont have this activated.
for this 3g speed work you need two part, that the phone have 3g and that tmobil give you acces to 3g in the servers.

momentarylapseofreason said:
So you're saying T-Zones will be on 3G? Sorry, but I am fully aware on how to do this. Nothing to do with ignorance. The system isn't "working" for you and your analogies are far off.
"If you can steal a big screen TV and pay the employee 100 bucks to look the other way, why pay full price for it" would be a much better analogy.
But either way, it may work for awhile longer at 2G speeds. I am sure that it won't be indefinite though. T-Mobile knows what phone you're using by it's IMEI. They're not stupid and will figure out your "black box" method. Would be awesome if they back-charged you for theft of service.
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Or cancelled the phone service like Sprint. They cancelled the contracts of like 1000 customers last year for "getting the system to work for them", too.

satru said:
there are not free rider because are paying 5.99 for tzone.nothing is free in this country. and of course can't run a lot of program that the other plans where you pay more money can do.
about this plan in g1, the new phone can use 3g,edge etc. all depend of you contract with tmobil. if you plan use full internet,mail etc, you phone will have to use 3g for communicate because you are paying for that, they have in you config account that you can use this feature, BUT if you plan is simple for ej tzone the phone will work with edge only because when it try to connect with 3g speed, you plan dont have this activated.
for this 3g speed work you need two part, that the phone have 3g and that tmobil give you acces to 3g in the servers.
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Learn English and perhaps your arguments will hold water with me.

Using T-Zones will work for basic web browsing, and for gmail, and google chat. T-zone's proxy will actively block the map functions for data etc along with most of the phone features. (The proxy has many closed ports). I am running this way as we speak.
T-Mobile knows about this and they have compensated. They dont mind taking 6 dollars for simple browsing at 3g speeds since you wont barely register on their network. They are already offering such a plan in the UK for a similar price anyways. (yes I am running at 3g speeds for 6 dollars) but my phone is at 30 percent functionality.
If you want to simply browse the web and check your g1 mail then this will work and I am running this way but you will lose out on many of the phone features(actually alot of them) MOST PORTS ARE CLOSED on t-zones.
Anyways have fun.

having trouble using web2go / tzones on wing?

I am having trouble trying to use web2go/tzones on my wing. I got 9.99 web2go plan and when i try to visit any site using internet explorer i always get a message that I don't have the right type of internet plan and I need to upgrade it in order to use internet on my wing. I have used both wap.voicestream.com and epc.tmobile.com with and without proxy 216.155.165.50:8080 it seems like tmobile systems are recognizing my phone type and not letting me use web2go on my wing. I cannot even update weather on my phone. Is there any additional settings I can use or anything else I can do to get web2go working. I only need data plan for very light browsing so I don't want to sign up for expensive plans.
Thanks

If you have web2go, you can NOT use epc, you have to use wap.
On my Wing, under Connections:
Name it something
Modem type is Cellular Line GPRS
Access point name is wap...
User, pass, domain is all blank
Remove any type of proxy settings.
It may just be easier to delete everything you have now and just add that.
Hope that helps.

T-Mobile Data Hack & epc.tmobile.com
I continue to use T-Mobile Web at $5.99 a month and I just installed Ivan's Windows Mobile 6.5 Alpha 11 and added the new APN - epc.tmobile.com and it works just fine. In fact, when I installed his ROM the first time I had no problems accessing GPRS, but the next time I installed it, I couldn't access the internet. Under Connections 6.5 had "wap.voicestream.com" , "[email protected]" and "[email protected]". It was there I added the new APN and ran IE6 Mobile. All that said, if there is a difference other than the price between T-Mobile Web and web2go, I don't know. Before all the changes were made to data plans, I assumed T-Mobile Web was unlimited and I use the hell out of it when I was at work listening to then XM radio and SkyFM. I do know over on MyT-Mobile as on the Wing you can monitor the amount of data used, whether they're enforcing a FAP on the new data plans, I simply don't know. I've never had any problems with my plan and have noted the new APN is faster than the old voicestream wap. Take care!

have sed all ways of web2go apn connections internet2 epc etc. As of today when I try to visit a website, it redirect me to wipcore.t-mobile.com or something like that and it says that I must subscribe to the webConnect but why would I want to pay more and do that? Any help/ideas what I can do?

Can T-mobile Unlimited Web used on Smartphones?

I have HTC pure which i'm using on T-mobile (US) connection. Now I have the data plan Unlimited Web which cost $9.99 monthly. I was wondering if I could use that for surfing the net on phone. Can anybody tell me the settings?

yes u can i stll have my 5.99 plan lol use internet2.voicestream.com in settings if not then try wap.voicestream.com

but what about proxy...do I need to use any proxy server?

no you dont. theres a way to get that even cheaper $6.99 tzone plan which uses proxy. theres a code that you tell to the billing department of customer service and they can add it in for you. the down side is that you cant get pop or imap mail with the $6.99. the $9.99 plan is similar but it doesnt use a proxy. if i were you, i would get the "tmobile shadow unlimited" plan, at least its somewhat a smartphone plan so if you get called about anything, you can argue that you have the right plan. they will call you up if you suddenly switch to a more superior phone like nexus or touch pro and push you to upgrade. i just use the excuse "im just borrowing and testing this phone from a friend" and they usually buy it and never bother me again.

nope you dont have to do any of that...just use the regular setup and then go into setup...connections...connections...advanced...select networks...and under tmobile data... change epc.tmobile.com to internet2.voicestream.com and reset and u are all done

^^Seems t-mobile needs one whole month to activate a service
they said it wud be done from start of next billing cycle which is like 20days from now

untrueparadox said:
no you dont. theres a way to get that even cheaper $6.99 tzone plan which uses proxy. theres a code that you tell to the billing department of customer service and they can add it in for you. the down side is that you cant get pop or imap mail with the $6.99. the $9.99 plan is similar but it doesnt use a proxy. if i were you, i would get the "tmobile shadow unlimited" plan, at least its somewhat a smartphone plan so if you get called about anything, you can argue that you have the right plan. they will call you up if you suddenly switch to a more superior phone like nexus or touch pro and push you to upgrade. i just use the excuse "im just borrowing and testing this phone from a friend" and they usually buy it and never bother me again.
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What's the difference between t-mobile shadow and unlimited web...i could switch next month...

opera for t mobile dash
pls help me wit opera link

This is a simple collection of settings for use with the T-Mobile U.S.A. network.Use these settings to set up Internet access on your phone using t-zones and T-MobileWeb. You can then further configure your device using T-Mobile to take advantage of all the additional features that t-zones provides.
1. Tap Start.
2. Tap Settings.
3. Tap on the Connections tab.
4. Tap the Connections icon.
5. Tap Add a new modem connection under T-Mobile GPRS.
6. Enter T-Mobile Internet in the Enter a name for the connection field.
7. Tap to select Cellular Line (GPRS) from the Select a modem drop down list.
8. Tap Next.
9. Enter internet2.voicestream.com in the Access point name field.
10. Tap Next.
11. Tap Finish.
The new Internet profile is now configured and ready for use.