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so i'm ditching my G1 because it barely works anymore. apparently theres something wrong with the motherboard and thats why any rom i install fails after a week and makes the phone unusable (even cranogen's rom died on my phone)
anyway i'm hoping to have better luck with the mytouch and with researching lately i've seen all this stuff about the 32a and 32b
As far as rooting goes, to my understanding, i just use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200
Then toss whatever rom i want on the SD and i'm pretty much good. That right?
From my understanding, the 32B is the T-mobile mytouch and is exactly the same as the g1. which dosn't make me too happy. But if this is true, does it have anymore space for apps or is it the same 70MB bull****?
second question. I love the hero/sense ui and i'd love to use it on the myTouch. So i know the question people hate to hear but if without having to read through hundereds of post i'd like to know which one is the most stable and has the most space for apps. By stable, i mean i can install it and use it for 2-3 months with daily use. And i have about 100Mb of apps on my G1 so i'm looking for a rom with a lot of space.
And last question, If i want to unroot and go to the official 2.0 software when it comes out (doubtful, but i may) are there any guides to go about unrooting, searched but couldn't find anything that was very clear.
Thanks in advance. now if only the phone would hurry up and get here so i can stop using my g1 that has to reboot every 3 hours.
neok44 said:
From my understanding, the 32B is the T-mobile mytouch and is exactly the same as the g1. which dosn't make me too happy. But if this is true, does it have anymore space for apps or is it the same 70MB bull****?
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The myTouch has more space for apps, over 100MB, but I don't exactly remember how much. I've had the phone for a week now and it's definitely better than the G1, performance wise.
neok44 said:
so i'm ditching my G1 because it barely works anymore. apparently theres something wrong with the motherboard and thats why any rom i install fails after a week and makes the phone unusable (even cranogen's rom died on my phone)
anyway i'm hoping to have better luck with the mytouch and with researching lately i've seen all this stuff about the 32a and 32b
As far as rooting goes, to my understanding, i just use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200
Then toss whatever rom i want on the SD and i'm pretty much good. That right?
From my understanding, the 32B is the T-mobile mytouch and is exactly the same as the g1. which dosn't make me too happy. But if this is true, does it have anymore space for apps or is it the same 70MB bull****?
second question. I love the hero/sense ui and i'd love to use it on the myTouch. So i know the question people hate to hear but if without having to read through hundereds of post i'd like to know which one is the most stable and has the most space for apps. By stable, i mean i can install it and use it for 2-3 months with daily use. And i have about 100Mb of apps on my G1 so i'm looking for a rom with a lot of space.
And last question, If i want to unroot and go to the official 2.0 software when it comes out (doubtful, but i may) are there any guides to go about unrooting, searched but couldn't find anything that was very clear.
Thanks in advance. now if only the phone would hurry up and get here so i can stop using my g1 that has to reboot every 3 hours.
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if you are running cyanogen on your mytouch, you have about 290MB to download apps. Try running Qtek's Hero v1.8, just make sure that you have your three partitions. If you want to upgrade to Eclair (2.0) if and when it comes out, I suggest you wait until a rooted version of the ROM is released because if you just upgrade, you will be without your Superuser access and you will just have to root your phone all over again. But I have had the mytouch since it first came out and I had the G1 before then. It definitely blows the G1 out of the water in terms of performance in my opinion. Though I still use apps2sd, the extra memory was very handy before the phone was able to be rooted. I had about 100 apps on there and I still had plenty of memory left.
thanks for the replies. the 290mb is amazing. I'll probably be running one of the hero roms, and thanks for giving me a recomendation. I just love the sense UI so much.
Glad to hear about the boost in performance as well.
So i take it that the rooting process is just like i said since no one mentioned that. Really looking forward to getting this phone and finally ditching the G1
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thanks for the replies. the 290mb is amazing. I'll probably be running one of the hero roms, and thanks for giving me a recomendation. I just love the sense UI so much.
Glad to hear about the boost in performance as well.
So i take it that the rooting process is just like i said since no one mentioned that. Really looking forward to getting this phone and finally ditching the G1
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How to un-root a tmobile MT3G in about 4 minutes. I followed this and it worked perfectly.
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-unroot-your-mytouch-3g/
thank you for that. got it bookmarked now. hopefully getting the phone today. can't wait to get started on it. looks like this will be a much better experience than the g1.
The Post here has a full guide of Rooting/Unrooting and links to a guide for Goldcards. There is another guide for rooting without goldcards but it doesnt show how to unroot or return everything back to stock. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133
Quick tip from a Magic user:
Don't update your phone (which will probably come with Cupcake 1.5 as stock) to Donut 1.6 using OTA, if it asks you to. Rooting Donut is a much lengthier process than rooting Cupcake, especially as you're wanting to run a Hero/SenseUI rom.
As you seemed to be hyped about memory, evil D:'s nano SenseUI is apparently a v lightweight version.
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Quick tip from a Magic user:
Don't update your phone (which will probably come with Cupcake 1.5 as stock) to Donut 1.6 using OTA, if it asks you to. Rooting Donut is a much lengthier process than rooting Cupcake, especially as you're wanting to run a Hero/SenseUI rom.
As you seemed to be hyped about memory, evil D:'s nano SenseUI is apparently a v lightweight version.
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I got it used from craigs list so the guy had already updated it to 1.6.
And i saw your posts in the one-touch-root topic. any chance you can explain to me how to get it to work on 1.6?
and thanks for the recommendation for the hero rom.
Relentless Rooter didn't work for me, I used it to access fastboot and then flashed to an Engineering SPL.
As far as I know, an Engineering SPL will let you flash to any ROM using the fastboot > recovery > update.zip method as Engineering SPL allows you to use fastboot with the android sdk.
I'm not really qualified to explain to you 100% what to do, but I did this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576768
You would just cange the official ION rom with a senseUI rom, i think.
JackMagic said:
Relentless Rooter didn't work for me, I used it to access fastboot and then flashed to an Engineering SPL.
As far as I know, an Engineering SPL will let you flash to any ROM using the fastboot > recovery > update.zip method as Engineering SPL allows you to use fastboot with the android sdk.
I'm not really qualified to explain to you 100% what to do, but I did this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576768
You would just cange the official ION rom with a senseUI rom, i think.
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thanks for the link. hopefully everything will go fine for me.
It seems like most of the threads about rooting are from back in July. I want to root my phone. I'm pretty sure I should use the Cyanogen ROM. Should I use stable? Experimental? Nightly? I want 2.2 for sure, beyond that I don't really know what the differences are I should be looking for.
So, using Windows 7 what should I do starting from square one, and in which order should I do it?
I would like the ability to un-root and return to stock, if possible.
Thanks for any helpful replies.
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It seems like most of the threads about rooting are from back in July. I want to root my phone. I'm pretty sure I should use the Cyanogen ROM. Should I use stable? Experimental? Nightly? I want 2.2 for sure, beyond that I don't really know what the differences are I should be looking for.
So, using Windows 7 what should I do starting from square one, and in which order should I do it?
I would like the ability to un-root and return to stock, if possible.
Thanks for any helpful replies.
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Thank you posting this in the appropriate sub-forum. Here is a link in the Development sub-forum that explains all of the steps you need to root your Aria and prepare for loading custom ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788737
As for a Froyo 2.2 ROM, you have CM 6.0/6.1 or Liberated FRxx Series. The Liberated FR series has the familiar HTC Sense interface that came on your Aria, but it is built on Froyo 2.2 instead 2.1.
Regards,
Tom
Thanks for the reply Tom, although I'm still hesitant. It seems like every thread I've seen with instructions has quite a few posts afterwards from people having issues. The instructions are also usually about as clear as mud. It seems like the people writing the instructions are writing them for people who have rooted in the past, because they use terminology that a new user like me doesn't understand. I have lots of computer experience (used to design websites in the 90's with Notepad - ha!) but I have zero Linux or smartphone experience, so maybe I should just forget the root thing. It's just that I love Photoshop and would really like to be able to use those skills to customize the look of my phone much more than I currently can.
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Thanks for the reply Tom, although I'm still hesitant. It seems like every thread I've seen with instructions has quite a few posts afterwards from people having issues. The instructions are also usually about as clear as mud. It seems like the people writing the instructions are writing them for people who have rooted in the past, because they use terminology that a new user like me doesn't understand. I have lots of computer experience (used to design websites in the 90's with Notepad - ha!) but I have zero Linux or smartphone experience, so maybe I should just forget the root thing. It's just that I love Photoshop and would really like to be able to use those skills to customize the look of my phone much more than I currently can.
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you know what I did when i rooted my phone? I watched a youtube video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjgg__m-KHc
911jason said:
Thanks for the reply Tom, although I'm still hesitant. It seems like every thread I've seen with instructions has quite a few posts afterwards from people having issues. The instructions are also usually about as clear as mud. It seems like the people writing the instructions are writing them for people who have rooted in the past, because they use terminology that a new user like me doesn't understand. I have lots of computer experience (used to design websites in the 90's with Notepad - ha!) but I have zero Linux or smartphone experience, so maybe I should just forget the root thing. It's just that I love Photoshop and would really like to be able to use those skills to customize the look of my phone much more than I currently can.
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Well 922jason, I think we are both going through exactly the same thing. I bought my Aria already rooted by the seller, and so I missed out on the learning curve of rooting and the terminologies involved. Think I'm more of a learn it on the job kinda fella and now I have to read all these texts.
Anyway, I just did the most daring thing today. I was running Liberated Aria R12 few hours ago and decided to get hands on. Downloaded FroYo Cyanogen, made nandroid backup (yes it's such a noob thing) & flashed (sounds fancy) Cyanogen. Anyways, I found out that it didn't suit me at all because:
1. I can't find my ALL my installed and backup-ed Apps anywhere
2. The familiar Market isn't anywhere in the phone
3. ALL my contact list are gone
4. I couldn't find any application that lets me access my SD card
5. There were wayyyyy too many options to customize in Cyanogen that gave me a headache instead
Now I realize that the pros would bombard me with comments and advice to sort out those problems, and they certainly would know better what to do than me. But as a new user to Android in the smartphone era, I'm just plain confused.
So I restored the nandroid backup and I'm back to the state before I installed Cyanogen
BUT, I'm not done yet. I'm now downloading Liberated Aria Froyo FR007 and want to try it out. Just don't chicken out at getting hands on with this cos I wanna get the most out of my Aria. So good luck!
The people at XDA are really helpful and you shouldn't worry about getting lost. Thanks guys!
Thanks for the link Zervic, I'll check that out.
I also appreciate the info Emigre, glad to know I'm not the only noob on XDA! =)
Root yet or still having problems?
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Root yet or still having problems?
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I'm waffling big-time!
I just read through the huge CM6 thread and seeing all those different problems posted gives me the willies. Going to read through the Sense/Froyo thread next and see if it looks any safer.
Dont worry so much with any of the roms here theres a very small chance to brick your phone. If you like how your phone looks now then Liberated is for you. If you want to customize everything them go with CM6.
Your choice but dont over think it lol.
if you need help just ask.
Hey man, I really appreciate that... I like the idea of all the customization possible with CM6, but all of the bug reports in that thread scare the crap out of me.
Thats mostly for the nightly roms. CM6 and CM6.1 RC1 are very stable, I didn't have any major problems with them. Just make sure to fallow all the instructions when installing to avoid any problems with any roms you chose.
Noz85 said:
Thats mostly for the nightly roms. CM6 and CM6.1 RC1 are very stable, I didn't have any major problems with them. Just make sure to fallow all the instructions when installing to avoid any problems with any roms you chose.
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I would agree. Both CM 6.0.2.1 and CM 6.1 RC1 have been very reliable for me. As has been mentioned in other posts, most of the 'bugs' are about the nightly CM builds which are truly 'experimental'.
There are a few caveats with CM 6.x that you won't run into with the Liberated ROMs. Number 1 is read the wiki instructions completely. Once you flash the CM 6 you then need to flash the Google Apps so that you can access the Android Market. Number 2 is that the CM 6.x cannot read any contacts you have stored on your SIM card, so you should export them from the SIM and sync them with your GMAIL account.
Regards,
Tom
Okay, anything I need to set aside for doing this? Will the stock 2gb SD card work fine? How long does the process take, from start to finish?
i too am on the learning curve of all this rooting and whatnot. before i got the aria just this last wednesday i had the hero cdma with Alltel. which apparently was a B* to root and whatnot, cuz alltel isnt popular for devs ive noticed. when i first got the hero it was really new for alltel, and there were people working on the root process. I too get pretty nervous when i read stuff that i could do to my phone but could brick it.. but then i found out about the recovery mode and nandroid backups.. and OMFG they help a lot when you change a setting to be incompatible and get a boot loop. that was VERY often with that hero.
When i found out that i was getting the Aria cuz of the Alltel to AT&T transition, i kept an eye on the aria threads. day one of getting the aria, i plugged it right in running unrevoked and it went real quick, however thats just the root process of course. you havent installed any roms at this point, just got the privileges.
thats when you boot the recovery mode, do that nandroid backup and copy that backup somewhere safe on a computer or something.. then of course after that then you follow the steps for whichever rom you choose that you want.
IMO- i prefer the Liberated series, i had my chance with CM6.1 on the hero and enjoyed it a bit, but got tired of it and went to the Fresh Hero ROM. so since i knew i liked fresh hero, i knew i wanted liberated series, and most especially because its 2.2 FroYo with the HTC Sense UI (the "stock look" that was mentioned earlier)
and to answer your questions:
1. make sure you have the right usb drivers, youll know if you read the tutorials. the nandroid backup would be somewhere between 200-350MB so make sure you have enough free on the sd.
2.the stock 2gb will work just fine. in the future look into upgrading with a class 4 or class 6 speed MicroSD for even better performance.
3.once you get the drivers and software downloaded, the unrevoked root process takes probably around 5 minutes, if that.. it seemed really fast to me. the nandroid backup process will be fast if you dont have many apps installed now. should only take a few minutes as well. im guessing it takes me like 10-15 minutes sometimes cuz of apps and such, (sometimes i lose track of time). then after nandroid, the wipes are like instant, then flashing the rom, (like i said im bad with time sometimes) and i believe that takes about 5-10 minutes.
So it seems like after I root my phone, I should boot back into the stock ROM and download Titanium to back-up my apps and app data. Is this correct? I don't want to lose access to the apps I have purchased. Is that the best way?
the purchased apps you can obviously re-download, but yes. titanium backup is really useful for saving app/app-data. however, if needed, you can always nandroid the custom rom, restore your stock backup and pull info from that, then restore back to the custom.
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the purchased apps you can obviously re-download
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I have found quite a few threads around the internet about people losing their paid apps after rooting and flashing a custom ROM. Wasn't sure if there was some step I needed to take to ensure that I can retrieve my paid apps. There aren't many, I've only had my phone for a few weeks, but still... I'm cheap!
1. You can use titanium to back up your apps, though that isn't 100% necessary because, as previously mentioned, you can re-download your purchased apps.
2. Once you get the ROM installed (if it happens to be cyanogenmod) you need to also install gapps, which includes the market app. If you don't flash the gapps package, obviously, there will be no market.
3. Keep in mind that if you install CM, there will be no more HTC Sync.
4. If you follow the directions in 1, the video i posted for you or 2, any of the threads that explain this process the possibility for you to brick your phone is slim to none. -- as attn1 said "If you manage to brick your phone with this ROM from there, you are a dumb ass of unimaginable proportions, and I absolve myself of any responsibility whatsoever. "
There were a few other things I wanted to mention but I gotta run...
oh haha, well as far as im concerned, the purchases should be saved in the google database as long as you use the same gmail account to log in to the phone. ive been fine every time. even from goin thru the transition of different cell providers and phones. there is an app that im not sure if its allowed to be posted but ill message a link to you. its helped a lot lately even tho i just found it out like two days ago.
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There were a few other things I wanted to mention but I gotta run...
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Oh that's just great... reminds me of the teases for "News at 11 - The critical info you need that could save your life"... meanwhile, it's 4pm, what do I do until 11 to stay alive?!?!
Hello everyone, I just recently got an HTC Aria and it is my first Android phone. A friend recommended I come here and see how I can make my Aria "better" so what do you guys recommend.
I've read a lot of the posts on here and it seems that I should root my phone, but as I stated previously I'm really new to all this so can you guys help me out and give me some tips.
Thanks!
vicmora5 said:
Hello everyone, I just recently got an HTC Aria and it is my first Android phone. A friend recommended I come here and see how I can make my Aria "better" so what do you guys recommend.
I've read a lot of the posts on here and it seems that I should root my phone, but as I stated previously I'm really new to all this so can you guys help me out and give me some tips.
Thanks!
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Tips:
1. Read, study and reread, especially the STICKY threads that usually contain Q&A information for new users.
2. Forum Search and Google will also be your friend.
3. If you do have questions, posting in this "General" section is the best place to start.
vicmora5 said:
Hello everyone, I just recently got an HTC Aria and it is my first Android phone. A friend recommended I come here and see how I can make my Aria "better" so what do you guys recommend.
I've read a lot of the posts on here and it seems that I should root my phone, but as I stated previously I'm really new to all this so can you guys help me out and give me some tips.
Thanks!
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What it says above is a great way to start. I just got an Aria too and for me the first thing I wanted to do was to get rid of the AT&T crapware off the phone. After rooting, which is super easy compared to how it was a few years back, then you can just search for what you want to do. I am new to Android but have been on this forum for years and it's the best place for anything you want to do to your phone to make it "better" Now I'm trying to add 3rd party apps that are not in the market, this gets a bit involved, but the info is here. I have installed different ROM's on other phones before, but don't really care to do that with the Aria yet, but it is definitely an easy way to get the Aria upgraded to Android 2.2 and get rid of the crapware and AT&T's limitations that they put on their phones at the same time.
Everyone here is super helpful as long as you read first and ask questions later. Cheers!
ckuke4 said:
What it says above is a great way to start. I just got an Aria too and for me the first thing I wanted to do was to get rid of the AT&T crapware off the phone. After rooting, which is super easy compared to how it was a few years back, then you can just search for what you want to do. I am new to Android but have been on this forum for years and it's the best place for anything you want to do to your phone to make it "better" Now I'm trying to add 3rd party apps that are not in the market, this gets a bit involved, but the info is here. I have installed different ROM's on other phones before, but don't really care to do that with the Aria yet, but it is definitely an easy way to get the Aria upgraded to Android 2.2 and get rid of the crapware and AT&T's limitations that they put on their phones at the same time.
Everyone here is super helpful as long as you read first and ask questions later. Cheers!
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Thanks! I'm a total noob with everything though, I get really confused with this stuff. So far I think I've seen two different methods for rooting the Aria can you guys tell me which is the best one? So far all I've done with my Aria is get swype on it :3
Here's the two different ways I've seen,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710677&highlight=Root+htc+aria
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788737&highlight=Root+htc+aria
There may be more I'm not sure, but which one is the better guide? Or are both basically the same.
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Thanks! I'm a total noob with everything though, I get really confused with this stuff. So far I think I've seen two different methods for rooting the Aria can you guys tell me which is the best one? So far all I've done with my Aria is get swype on it :3
Here's the two different ways I've seen,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710677&highlight=Root+htc+aria
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788737&highlight=Root+htc+aria
There may be more I'm not sure, but which one is the better guide? Or are both basically the same.
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IMO the second one has more concise instructions for noob. They both document using the Unrevoked 3.2 tool which makes rooting the Aria pretty painless.
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IMO the second one has more concise instructions for noob. They both document using the Unrevoked 3.2 tool which makes rooting the Aria pretty painless.
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Ok thanks, is there anything I should do before beginning the rooting process?
Also what comes after the root 3:
vicmora5 said:
Ok thanks, is there anything I should do before beginning the rooting process?
Also what comes after the root 3:
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Install HTC Sync so that the usb drivers get installed.
After you get rooted, I suggest you reboot into ClockworkMod Recovery mode and do a 'nandroid' backup. Do a search and you'll find more info about how to do that.
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Install HTC Sync so that the usb drivers get installed.
After you get rooted, I suggest you reboot into ClockworkMod Recovery mode and do a 'nandroid' backup. Do a search and you'll find more info about how to do that.
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Ok I did the nandroid backup, now what?
Just search for a ROM?
Which is the best one
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Ok I did the nandroid backup, now what?
Just search for a ROM?
Which is the best one
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That's purely opinion. The good news is we only have a few to choose from, but they are very good roms. If you like the stock look/feel if the aria then one of the two liberated roms would be a good choice. One is based on android 2.1 with sense ui (came stock on the aria) and the other is based on android 2.2 with sense ui. Then theres cm6.1, which is based on android 2.2 but without the sense ui. All are good choices and very well developed. Try em all and see what you like. Ask those roms receive very good user support.
I personally started on liberated (i was hesitant to give up sense), but I eventually tried cm6 and once I adjusted I've never looked back.
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Ok I did the nandroid backup, now what?
Just search for a ROM?
Which is the best one
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I too agree with the post before mine, that it's all a matter of opinion. If you want mine, since you call yourself such a noob, I'd try one of the liberated rom's that have sense ui which is what you're used to. Then try cm6.1 at a later time once you're comfortable with your skills, it's very customizable and as mentioned before, well developed, with a large helpful community. Good luck. Btw, rom's are in the Development section.
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That's purely opinion. The good news is we only have a few to choose from, but they are very good roms. If you like the stock look/feel if the aria then one of the two liberated roms would be a good choice. One is based on android 2.1 with sense ui (came stock on the aria) and the other is based on android 2.2 with sense ui. Then theres cm6.1, which is based on android 2.2 but without the sense ui. All are good choices and very well developed. Try em all and see what you like. Ask those roms receive very good user support.
I personally started on liberated (i was hesitant to give up sense), but I eventually tried cm6 and once I adjusted I've never looked back.
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I'm having troubles with both of them, not installing or running them or anything like that , but problems with my network. The liberated constantly drops the signal and the cm6.1 doesnt allow me to send or receive picture messages, do you know if theres a way to get back to just the default rom the aria came with. Maybe I'll just root then and not install any other ROMS
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I'm having troubles with both of them, not installing or running them or anything like that , but problems with my network. The liberated constantly drops the signal and the cm6.1 doesnt allow me to send or receive picture messages, do you know if theres a way to get back to just the default rom the aria came with. Maybe I'll just root then and not install any other ROMS
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Htc website had the stock aria rom. As far as the picture messages go remember that you have to have your data turned on to send or receive pic messages. But you should definitely be able to do it I'm on cm6.1 and I'm able to send and receive.
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Htc website had the stock aria rom. As far as the picture messages go remember that you have to have your data turned on to send or receive pic messages. But you should definitely be able to do it I'm on cm6.1 and I'm able to send and receive.
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Yeah I know but there is no indication of it being on there isn't that check mark thing, even though it says its on. Anyways I already went to stock thanks for the help, I'm going to root then just keep it that way.
I've had the phone for 2 months now and I think it's an awesome phone. Couple of questions I have.
What is the difference between this and HTC Desire with Sense? What is sense? Does it suck that we don't have it?
I want to reset the phone to OEM factory state then OC this phone. Where do I begin? How do I do it?
What's all this talk about ROM's and all CW7 and stuff?
I don't wanna try anything that will potentially brick my phone but I do have experience with rooting phones and linux based commands. I had a Nokia N900 and did heaps of stuff with that phone so this shouldn't be that much of a problem.
Thanks for answering any questions of mine!
monkey hung said:
I've had the phone for 2 months now and I think it's an awesome phone. Couple of questions I have.
What is the difference between this and HTC Desire with Sense? What is sense? Does it suck that we don't have it?
I want to reset the phone to OEM factory state then OC this phone. Where do I begin? How do I do it?
What's all this talk about ROM's and all CW7 and stuff?
I don't wanna try anything that will potentially brick my phone but I do have experience with rooting phones and linux based commands. I had a Nokia N900 and did heaps of stuff with that phone so this shouldn't be that much of a problem.
Thanks for answering any questions of mine!
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Sense is skin that HTC put over stock android. It gives you a lots of cool features and eyecandy. If you get your phone rooted you can flash the virtuous rom which is a custom sense rom.
CM7 is widely regarded as the as the best custom rom, it doesn't offer the eye candy or the features of sense. But is stock android with some awesome tweaks and is fast and smooth and has loads of customization options
Have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431 for walk throughs about how to root your phone, flash custom ROMs, OC you phone and loads of other cool stuff. If you have experience using linux based comands you will have no problems modifying your phone.
Bit of advice as your new to the forums, read then read again. And make sure general questions are posted in Q&A section. People get un happy when non development questions get posted in the dev section.
Welcome to the forums.
Sent from my awesome DZ
oh whoops! Sorry about posting it here. I didn't know! Thank you for all that information you have been very helpful
monkey hung said:
oh whoops! Sorry about posting it here. I didn't know! Thank you for all that information you have been very helpful
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Sorry wasn't clear. This question was fine posted here. I was just giving a warning about posting in the dev section
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monkey hung said:
I've had the phone for 2 months now and I think it's an awesome phone. Couple of questions I have.
What is the difference between this and HTC Desire with Sense? What is sense? Does it suck that we don't have it?
I want to reset the phone to OEM factory state then OC this phone. Where do I begin? How do I do it?
What's all this talk about ROM's and all CW7 and stuff?
I don't wanna try anything that will potentially brick my phone but I do have experience with rooting phones and linux based commands. I had a Nokia N900 and did heaps of stuff with that phone so this shouldn't be that much of a problem.
Thanks for answering any questions of mine!
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rooting with gfree/rage is very easy and as long as you don't fubar the adb commands, you won't have trouble. I even screwed up the first time I did it (overlooked a typo) and ended up fine.
after you've rooted, you can certainly use the factory ROM and overclock, but be careful with which kernel you use.. they don't all work on the stock ROM. I would recommend baconbits as it's from the very trustworthy cyanogenmod team and has been used by many a DZ/G2 owner. I did stock rom/baconbits for a while before the gingerbread roms started rolling out... when an official gingerbread rom rolls out for our phones, that's what I'll be going back to (depending on how awesome Gingervillain 2.0 is )
sense is way overloaded, but that's just my opinion. check out some screenshots/videos of the different available roms to get a feeling for what they might be like before you install them on your phone.
Where can I find these screen shots and videos? Is there a certain list on this site? Or do I have to manually search it via Google and Youtube? I don't know the names of all the mods....haha
there is no better friend than google. Depending on what kind of person you are.. if you genuinely care about why stuff works.. how it works... then you must read the entire Vision Wiki from top to bottom...its got great stuff in it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision If you dont care about why or how things work just go for broke and root it and pop a rom on and play with it. Whatever floats your boat.
just look through the stickies empirical http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801206
do not do anything to your phone without making sure you have fully read the wiki...just dont rush into anything, enjoy your time enjoy each detail because the joy is in learning why things are the way they are.
Sense and CM and Vanilla...... ford...chevy...dodge... pepsi or coke... macintosh or windows... pizza burgers or fluffernutters... whatever floats your boat. no ifs and or buts about it, land of the free and rooted
Wow, he's a virgin. Lol. Welcome to the club bro. Unlockr.com has many easy videos n directions too.
G2 with meXdroid GingerMex Habanero
I have a Desire Z, and therefore started with Sense and was on the stock ROM for about 2 months. Having switched to CM7, I have to say I don't miss much about Sense. Sense has some nice widgets, but nothing that can't be done with market apps, for the most part. The only thing I miss is the Sense camera. It has a really nice look and layout, and focuses on any point on the screen by touching it. Sense is a resource hog, and my phone seems faster and smoother without it.
ROMs are the operating system software for the phone. Custom ROMs are ones that are tweaked by users here, who are awesome enough to do all the hard work and share it with us. Custom ROMs add functionality, sometimes improve performance, and often strip out a lot of the "bloatware" that your carrier likes to put on the phone. CM7 is a custom ROM, and one of the more popular ones. Its based on stock Android (CM6 is Froyo and CM7 is Gingerbread) and packed with lots of extra features.
If you are comfortable with rooting, you are really most of the way to flashing a custom ROM. After you root, download ROM Manager from the Market. You can use ROM Manager to backup your current ROM, download many of the popular custom ROMs, and install them, just with a few clicks.
Why do you want to return to factory condition? You can OC without doing that. You just root and flash a new kernal, then install SetCPU or similar.
Somebody already posted the "Stickies" guides. Start reading, all you need to know is there.
Just got a new EVO 4g after my old one was failing. Is it still possible to root these newer EVO 4gs? What is the easiest way to root & easiest way to put the phone back to stock if need be? Ive been using sense & it just seems like crap compared to ROMs & it seems like sense eats battery life alive...lol
Pivo187 said:
Just got a new EVO 4g after my old one was failing. Is it still possible to root these newer EVO 4gs? What is the easiest way to root & easiest way to put the phone back to stock if need be? Ive been using sense & it just seems like crap compared to ROMs & it seems like sense eats battery life alive...lol
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Yes, it's still possible to root the EVO. Check out the link below for more info. As far as not liking Sense-based ROM's, you can always go the AOSP route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674547
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Well what is the best way to root as far as easiest and most effective? Also, as far as going back to stock which rooting method makes that easy as well? What is currently one of the best ROMs for EVO 4g as far as reliability & everything working 100% gps, calls, text, net, etc
Pivo187 said:
Well what is the best way to root as far as easiest and most effective? Also, as far as going back to stock which rooting method makes that easy as well? What is currently one of the best ROMs for EVO 4g as far as reliability & everything working 100% gps, calls, text, net, etc
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Without knowing what software version you're on, the first part of your question is hard to answer. As for the second question, what may be the best ROM for one user may not be the best for another, so it's up to you to decide which ROM works best by trying a few out.
Sent from my EVO LTE
Thanks for the reply FinZ28. How can I check my software version? As far as the best ROM I meant generally speaking the top 3 most popular?
Go to Menu>Settings>About phone to find your software version. As far as "most popular", I can't really help you there. There are too many choices and I haven't flashed a ROM on a OG EVO in awhile.
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Ok it says android version 2.3.5 baseband 2.15.00.01.15 kernel 2.6.35.10-g8b16b68 [email protected]#1 Is there any other info you need Fin?
Pivo187 said:
Ok it says android version 2.3.5 baseband 2.15.00.01.15 kernel 2.6.35.10-g8b16b68 [email protected]#1 Is there any other info you need Fin?
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Use the method in the link below:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...gerbread-2-3-5-dummies-guide.html#post3847599
Sent from my EVO LTE
FinZ28: thanks for the reply but my main concern is being able to revert the phone back to stock in case I return it or go in for repairs. I was unsuccessful at doing that with my previous EVO so its the only thing Im trying to find out? Is rooting under one of the methods (HTC Dev or Captain Throwback's) make it easier to revert back to stock or is it all the same? Ive been on stock sense now for 1 month & the phone really runs a lot worse than when rooted...
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FinZ28: thanks for the reply but my main concern is being able to revert the phone back to stock in case I return it or go in for repairs. I was unsuccessful at doing that with my previous EVO so its the only thing Im trying to find out? Is rooting under one of the methods (HTC Dev or Captain Throwback's) make it easier to revert back to stock or is it all the same? Ive been on stock sense now for 1 month & the phone really runs a lot worse than when rooted...
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You can always get back to stock, but it really isn't necessary.
Why isnt it necessary?
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Why isnt it necessary?
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If you have a hardware issue with the device, the software on it is irrelevant. And Sprint services rooted devices.
Thanks for the heads up Cap. BTW is it possible to make service/3g better on this phone? I feel like when I was using ASOP Rom the service was a lot better...At times my text messages dont go thru, I seem to get drop calls more often, & things just feel a lot slower on this stock sense rom that came with the phone..
Cap what ROM are you using?
Is it possible for 3g to be worse using stock sprint sense rom vs an ASOP rom ? I remeber when I had ASOP rom my 3g would hardly lag compared to now its constantly lagging...
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Thanks for the heads up Cap. BTW is it possible to make service/3g better on this phone? I feel like when I was using ASOP Rom the service was a lot better...At times my text messages dont go thru, I seem to get drop calls more often, & things just feel a lot slower on this stock sense rom that came with the phone..
Cap what ROM are you using?
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I just flashed Evervolv KitKat on my OG. More accurately I just restored it. Before that I was running Omni, but I have to do some work on that to get data working. I think I might need to borrow ril from Evervolv.
AOSP is slimmer than Sense, so the device will typically run faster with it. But I cant imagine signal is actually better, since the stock stuff is built specifically for the device.
Well Im not sure about that. When using AOSP my 3g hardly ever stopped working when I was at the gym. Now it stops at least 5 times...Does everything work on Evervolv KitKat Rom cant seem to find it on the forums? Im trying to find a ROM where all things are working well & is very fast.
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Well Im not sure about that. When using AOSP my 3g hardly ever stopped working when I was at the gym. Now it stops at least 5 times...Does everything work on Evervolv KitKat Rom cant seem to find it on the forums? Im trying to find a ROM where all things are working well & is very fast.
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The only way you'll have a ROM with everything working on this device is to use Gingerbread.
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The only way you'll have a ROM with everything working on this device is to use Gingerbread.
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that's the general consensus, eh?
i just brought my og evo out of retirement after my wife lost her iphone 5.
i figure this can tide her over until we decide what to do...change carriers, what phones to get, etc...
if i want her to have a phone with working/hacked hotspot and wimax...is there anything over gingerbread that will run it?
also, will i be tied to sense only roms?
thanks for the suggestions, gang.
mods...if i don't hear anything out of this thread...i hope you don't mind, but, i'll start an original thread.
thanks, gang!
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that's the general consensus, eh?
i just brought my og evo out of retirement after my wife lost her iphone 5.
i figure this can tide her over until we decide what to do...change carriers, what phones to get, etc...
if i want her to have a phone with working/hacked hotspot and wimax...is there anything over gingerbread that will run it?
also, will i be tied to sense only roms?
thanks for the suggestions, gang.
mods...if i don't hear anything out of this thread...i hope you don't mind, but, i'll start an original thread.
thanks, gang!
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WiMAX will only work on Gingerbread, like I said previously. But you can run CM7 and still have working WiMax, so I guess that's something .
Captain_Throwback said:
WiMAX will only work on Gingerbread, like I said previously. But you can run CM7 and still have working WiMax, so I guess that's something .
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thanks, captain throwback...
it's funny to hear that cm7...SEVEN...is an option.
just serves to remind me how long i've had the phone.
so, maybe cm7 will do the trick for a while.
any variation of it you in mind? or, just straight cm7?
thanks, again!