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Hi All
On all my previous HTC devices when I was switchin the device off with power button none of other buttons were active. So pressing them did nothing. Only way to wake the device up was to press power button.
On Leo that is not the case. Now I remember that option was somewhere in windows but it appears to not be there anymore. When I have phone in pocket volume still works so it goes up and down. It also today somehow managed to unlocked it self when in poclet of my motorbike leathers including sliding the screen to unlock. Then it started calling hte wrong person while I was on m-way. Not a good thing.
Any idea where that option is?!

Only way i have found around this is to install S2U2 and set slide to answer as only way to answer phone. This disables buttons when there is a call. There is also a cab file you can install to set s2u2 as the default unlock screen.

ruscik said:
Hi All
On all my previous HTC devices when I was switchin the device off with power button none of other buttons were active. So pressing them did nothing. Only way to wake the device up was to press power button.
On Leo that is not the case. Now I remember that option was somewhere in windows but it appears to not be there anymore. When I have phone in pocket volume still works so it goes up and down. It also today somehow managed to unlocked it self when in poclet of my motorbike leathers including sliding the screen to unlock. Then it started calling hte wrong person while I was on m-way. Not a good thing.
Any idea where that option is?!
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If you are unlocking the lock screen, by sliding the slider all the way to one side, whilst it is in your pocket, then I suggest you get a priest to exorcise your pocket. This simply is not possible without your intervention.
I would suggest that you have come across the common (and very documented on this forum) problem of the lock screen not actually locking your device fully.
This is a known problem, with a 100% effective solution. Before you start a journey (which is obviously where this is most problematic for you) click start and then lock (the bottom left soft key). This re-enables the hardware lock. After that, it will work.

lindsaydr said:
Only way i have found around this is to install S2U2 and set slide to answer as only way to answer phone. This disables buttons when there is a call. There is also a cab file you can install to set s2u2 as the default unlock screen.
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Will try s2u2 then
johncmolyneux said:
If you are unlocking the lock screen, by sliding the slider all the way to one side, whilst it is in your pocket, then I suggest you get a priest to exorcise your pocket. This simply is not possible without your intervention.
I would suggest that you have come across the common (and very documented on this forum) problem of the lock screen not actually locking your device fully.
This is a known problem, with a 100% effective solution. Before you start a journey (which is obviously where this is most problematic for you) click start and then lock (the bottom left soft key). This re-enables the hardware lock. After that, it will work.
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My pocket is ghost free, as it is made of leather and in rain can get a bit moist it does work a bit on the screen.
Also if I select start and click lock all buttons still work.

ruscik said:
if I select start and click lock all buttons still work.
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Yes, but you need to slide to unlock if the lock screen is working correctly. This will not happen by accident, in your pocket.
You can only unlock your phone with the hardware buttons if the known issue of the lock screen rears it's ugly head.
Doing what I said, before each journey, will make sure that you cannot unlock the screen with a simple button-press.

Since installing S2U2 a few days ago I've had even worse problems with ghost unlocks than before.
Previously the only issue was accidentally cutting calls off, but with S2U2 I had a text from a friend on Friday asking if I was drunk. Somehow, whilst locked in my pocket it unlocked and sent a gibberish sms!
Then today, it also somehow unlocked in my pocket and dialled my mum!
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
But seriously - I love S2U2 from previous winmo phones but it's made my HD2 worse so I've uninstalled it tonight sadly.

Cret said:
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
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You're not as bad as me when I play COD/MW2 then, or you would have made several references to "the C word" lol

Cret said:
Since installing S2U2 a few days ago I've had even worse problems with ghost unlocks than before.
Previously the only issue was accidentally cutting calls off, but with S2U2 I had a text from a friend on Friday asking if I was drunk. Somehow, whilst locked in my pocket it unlocked and sent a gibberish sms!
Then today, it also somehow unlocked in my pocket and dialled my mum!
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
But seriously - I love S2U2 from previous winmo phones but it's made my HD2 worse so I've uninstalled it tonight sadly.
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Well it took me all but 45 min to realise my problem is still there with s2u2 but other things are even worse so back to stock lock.
I am quite certain that option must still be in there. It was a tick box that stated lock all buttons except power button.

johncmolyneux said:
You're not as bad as me when I play COD/MW2 then, or you would have made several references to "the C word" lol
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No - I'm the same exactly. I just was trying to be polite so I didn't get told off here!

power button - slide to unlock

is there any way to just press on the screen to wake it up other then pressing the power button or trackball? if anyone has used an iphone i am looking for simply touch the screen to wake it up and sliding to unlock skipping trackball or power button presses. thanks.

It's possible to wake up the iPhone by touching the screen? Only for jailbroken phones? That's something I've never heard of before.
I don't think that is possible right now, Android would power down the touch sensor to save battery. Just like a stock iPhone does too.
I am interested to know how to do that on the iPhone though, I'd love to do that with my iPod Touch.

ohh thats right i forgot the iphone has to press the home button to wake it up after a long sleep. my iphone is setup to wait the longest time before going into a sleep so if i am waiting for something the backlight turns off and locks the phone but a press on the screen turns on the backlight waits to be unlocked. oh well would be cool to have on n1 though. thanks for the reply.

The program "nolock" in the market makes it so you can use either the trackball or volume buttons to wake the phone. Other than that, I think screen wake would kill your battery. Can't say for sure though.

worth trying this app thanks

Yeah, being an OLED screen, you can't just turn off the backlight. Each pixel is a light all by itself. Otherwise you could probably do the same trick.

No lock or keyguard disabler bypass or disable the lock screen. Root and running a custom rom like CM will let you double click the trackball to unlock the and wake the phone. There is also a menu unlock too.

I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.

krabman said:
I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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Menu wake doesn't do what I believe you may think it does, you still have to press the power button to turn the phone on. Then you press menu to skip the lockscreen.. which in my opinion is not needed. I only said this because you said no hard key will be worn out.. but they still will.

krabman said:
I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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what are you using for that?

Funny that because I just went to go hunt that one down and found that you are indeed correct, it only acts as an alternative to slide to unlock, it does not wake up the phone. Sigh.

D200P13 said:
what are you using for that?
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Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.

sounds like i must dl it and worth pressing 1 button to wake up without sliding to unlock.

krabman said:
Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.
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i see one called mylock that says it automatically starts again after device restart. worth a try.

If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.

krabman said:
If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.
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yes i must say it works well. i didnt even try the no luck. it also has more reviews fyi. im keeping it. it also has an addon for something idle. im guessing that idle addon disabled the mylock to enter your security after an x amount of sleep time has passed. sounds ok if u want security enabled i guess but most pay a few cents for it. not for me at this point.

REQ :Unlock screen by optical click.

So after having phone for 10 days now i find that it likes to unlock him self in my pocket, and if i go near my pocket with my fingers, or if its faced down so it touches my body, screen reacts , unlocks and does stupid stuff on phone.
My question now is: Is it possible to make some applicaiton, that would disable unlock on hard Menu button, and any on screen unlock patterns, but just phone can be unlocked by pressing optical trackball down(which is nearly impossible to press in pocket because of its nice positioning)
And please dont suggest me unlock patterns or pins, because i just dont like them.

I agree, i experience the same problems,
and I would suggest to this idea, that if it would be possible to implement ability remapping of the on/off key ( at least the time needed to push the key ) to turn screen on. because i experience turning the phone on in my pocket by selfpushing the on-off.
and to be honest, i like to use the screen with my fingers, not using the optical trackball at all an sometimes when i scroll with fingers, it interferes when my finger slips, or rests.
so my suggestion. to increase the time needed to push the on/off button to make screen active if possible
to make the optical trackball push make unlock the screen.
and an ability to disable optical trackball scroling ( not pushing, just disabled scrolling )

I had same problem , way i got around it,
put a lock pattern on your screen, but also add a widget to set the lock pattern on/off, that way when your going out with the phone in your pocket you set the lock to on and it wont do anything. when your at home,turn it off to get easy access.

Yeah, that works, but is not smooth.
hate the lock pattern.
the ideal case would be by on home page to disable on off button and.
with long push optical trackball to lock/unlock screen.

i dont understand how does it happen for you guys, do you never use power button to put it on sleep? i had this phone for pretty much a month now and it hever happened to me even when was wearin fairly tight jeans.
btw try lockpro app from the market it is paid though unfortunately

cez10 said:
i dont understand how does it happen for you guys, do you never use power button to put it on sleep? i had this phone for pretty much a month now and it hever happened to me even when was wearin fairly tight jeans.
btw try lockpro app from the market it is paid though unfortunately
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+1, never happened to me too, i guess you guys set the screen to not turn off? lol.....
even if the phone is ringing, i can still take it out of my pocket without it being answered....well i must say it's in a pouch too....maybe thats a solution to your problem....

I think it depends on how tight your trousers are maybe? if the button is pressed, and you pull it out the slider slides down??
Just a guess

Lol yea and if your pocket is actually your underpants, since my phone won't react to any touch with fabric between my skin and the screen.
My suggestion is that you grow some hair on your legs (or stop shaving), then you will have no problems.
And yea I have never had this problem in the 2 weeks or so of ownership. Although I do put them in my pocket where it is surrounded by a layer of cotton being the lining of the pocket, so that it is impossible for my skin to touch the screen. Not sure how your pockets work?

Use the unlock pattern.
Menu/settings/security/
this way it cannot unlock itself unless you draw the pattern, plus it helps if anyone picks up your desire wthout you knowing.
P.s I have never had an issue with the screen unlocking in my pocket, holder or anything else.

As i wrote on end of my strating post. I DO NOT LIKE unlock patterns. It doesnt prevent phone to turn on, and + its damn ugly.
To repeat ones more. I would like a way to disable screen ON using main power button, and set it so it only turns on by optical trackball click(not unlock directly, just to turn ON screen).
I'm using nice leather case for phone, but lots of times i push it in i turn on the screen. + with other in pocket random stuff which i explained..

OnlinePredator said:
Lol yea and if your pocket is actually your underpants, since my phone won't react to any touch with fabric between my skin and the screen.
My suggestion is that you grow some hair on your legs (or stop shaving), then you will have no problems.
And yea I have never had this problem in the 2 weeks or so of ownership. Although I do put them in my pocket where it is surrounded by a layer of cotton being the lining of the pocket, so that it is impossible for my skin to touch the screen. Not sure how your pockets work?
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Well it happens to me sometimes. If I press the lock button and then slide the phone up from my pocket while the screen is turned towards my leg, it unlocks.
The desire touch screen actually works trough thin fabric (like the one they make pants pockets from). Try putting your shirt between your finger and the screen. You'll see it'll work.

unlock bug?
ivicask said:
As i wrote on end of my strating post. I DO NOT LIKE unlock patterns. It doesnt prevent phone to turn on, and + its damn ugly.
To repeat ones more. I would like a way to disable screen ON using main power button, and set it so it only turns on by optical trackball click(not unlock directly, just to turn ON screen).
I'm using nice leather case for phone, but lots of times i push it in i turn on the screen. + with other in pocket random stuff which i explained..
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plus isn't there still a bug in 2.1 where if you put the unlock pattern in wrong 5 times you can't unlock your phone and it doesn't accept your google account password?

ivicask said:
As i wrote on end of my strating post. I DO NOT LIKE unlock patterns. It doesnt prevent phone to turn on, and + its damn ugly.
To repeat ones more. I would like a way to disable screen ON using main power button, and set it so it only turns on by optical trackball click(not unlock directly, just to turn ON screen).
I'm using nice leather case for phone, but lots of times i push it in i turn on the screen. + with other in pocket random stuff which i explained..
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It is not possible. There was a big thread about this in the HTC Hero section. It needs the source code to be modified.

Not sure what you mean OP, my phone is in my pocket everyday and also inside a pouch, basically when i want to lock my phone i hit the power button and it will go into lock mode with the screen off, when i want to start it again, i press the power button and this displays a screen which is locked, i then have to move the slider down in order to unlock it, based on what you are saying i am finding it hard to imagine how it is unlocking in your pocket so can you confirm that your phone acts in the same manner as mine does and please explain more on how this is unlocking please.

haggisuk99 said:
Not sure what you mean OP, my phone is in my pocket everyday and also inside a pouch, basically when i want to lock my phone i hit the power button and it will go into lock mode with the screen off, when i want to start it again, i press the power button and this displays a screen which is locked, i then have to move the slider down in order to unlock it, based on what you are saying i am finding it hard to imagine how it is unlocking in your pocket so can you confirm that your phone acts in the same manner as mine does and please explain more on how this is unlocking please.
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Well i do know what OP means. I had my Desire one day and accidentally denied 4 out of 5 calls by taking the desire out of my pants. I make a habit of putting my phone up side down, screen facing inwards inside my pocket. So, on an incoming call the Desire shows the vertical slider, which is slided upwards by taking the phone out of your pocket, thus denying the call.
It's the most stupid design for a lock screen i've ever seen, and it could have been avoided if only one HTC engineer had made a few test calls to anothers Desire in his pants.
I installed Lock 2.0 which gives a horizontal slider on the lock screen, and which brings back the default accept and deny on-screen buttons. Still not perfect, but much better than the vertical slider.

+1 for the previous post. thx for the lock 2.0 app tip. I will download and try asap.
it does a lot of unwanted stuff in my pants...incl. self unlocking, call denying. etc..
shame that the unlock cant be easily recoded to the optical button.

Optical click unlock is already in the Cyanogen rom for desire.

CHT unlock screen lag

I'm using the CHT unlock screen. Whenever I press a button to bring up the unlock screen when the phone is lock, it shows the home screen briefly, then brings up the lock screen. Anyone know how to get rid of this lag?

this is something that you should post in cookies home tab thread instead of starting a pointless new thread which just dirties the forum.
As far as i know, there isn't a current fix for it, but it might be fixed in the next release

akollgaard said:
I'm using the CHT unlock screen. Whenever I press a button to bring up the unlock screen when the phone is lock, it shows the home screen briefly, then brings up the lock screen. Anyone know how to get rid of this lag?
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If you notice it only does it once. It's not really lag. I think it's just loading. I'm pretty sure the stock one does the same thing from what I remember.
Lock the phone, then hit a button to wake it up. You'll notice that it flashes the home screen then goes to the lock screen. Without unlocking it, hit the end call button again to put back to sleep. then hit it again and you'll notice it's already on the lock screen.
So I'm not really sure if this is an issue or not, but if you want to feel better, just make it part of you locking process to lock it, then wake it up, then hit the lock button again. then when you wake it up the next time to unlock it, it will be loaded and not show you the "lag" you were experiencing before.

Also I'd like to add that CHT is totally awesome. It really makes this phone the best of the best.

crisisinthecity said:
If you notice it only does it once. It's not really lag. I think it's just loading. I'm pretty sure the stock one does the same thing from what I remember.
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it doesn't only do it once, it is a lag, and the stock one doesn't do the same thing. also, waking up, locking, then waking up again to avoid seeing the lock screen right away is a bit cumbersome, don't you think? hopefully this gets fixed, i've had to restart my phone because of forgetting to wait for this lag and freezing the phone.

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it doesn't only do it once, it is a lag, and the stock one doesn't do the same thing. also, waking up, locking, then waking up again to avoid seeing the lock screen right away is a bit cumbersome, don't you think? hopefully this gets fixed, i've had to restart my phone because of forgetting to wait for this lag and freezing the phone.
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I guess if it bothers you that much, disable it for now and use the stock lock screen?
I still don't think it's lag since on mine if I hit the end call button once to lock it. Then hit it again to bring it back up, it only does it that time. Any time after that it's immediately on the lock screen. If it was lag it would do it every single time you woke it up right?
I guess if this weren't totally free I might care?

Mine does it also ... but frankly since Cht hmade me fall inlove with my phone all over again its not such a big deal.
cant complain when its free.

Lock Button (lock phone while in use)

Any tips or tricks on how to lock the phone while using the phone, since it has no top lock button
thanx in advance

godman_8 said:
Any tips or tricks on how to lock the phone while using the phone, since it has no top lock button
thanx in advance
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if you are using the phone the proximity sensor will turn off the screen once it touches your face to prevent screen buttons from being pressed.

for some reason I turn turn off the Phone Connection (pretty much like airplane mode) while in the phone and it happens a lot, and it bothers, so I was wondering how to lock it to bypass this issue

You gotta make sure that you are on the dialer when you put it upto your face, anywhere else and the proximity sensor won't do anything. I have a terrible habit of hitting home, then opening a dozen programs while talking to someone cause my screens hittin my ear. Just make sure that you are on the call screen before moving it to your head and it should do the rest.

sounds good nuff, i'll try to keep that in habit, so used to android devices with a lock button lol, thanks guys

I just hit the notification bar an then hit lock at the bottom of the screen while talking on the phone, now I use Inesoft phone.