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Ok guys, sorry I have been M.I.A. on the forums, but Medical school caught up with me and my Blackstone. After using it for a month, I decided to use the phone that I received from T-Mobile "Samsung Behold" and got used to the little device, thus I havent used my blackstone for a while. Now, it has come to my attention, that I may be possibly wanting to sell my Blackstone for the money due to my financial situation right now. I would be selling it with 3 cases and a pack of stylus, but that is beside the point right now. I have been looking around at the juicy phones coming out and the Samsung Omnia caught my attention. Granted I would have to import it once again, what exactly is the difference between the Omnia and HD? I will wait for the G2 to come out and check it out and, if I have the money, may look into the Omnia. Any advice from you all is always appreciated. I would wait for the Huawei G3, but nothing concrete has come up lately.
just google for a comparison. like this
I got both phones.
The biggest difference that will hit you after you hold both in your hands is the quality of the phones. The resolution of the HD makes the Omnia look like a ancient phone.
The screen is obviously smaller but even the WQVGA can't improve the look of the screen.
You will run into more stuck pixel problems with the Omnia, i held 2 different Omnias in my hand and both had more than 5 stuck pixels each.
The fact that 3.5mm doesn't exist will piss you off initially but you will probably get used to it. I simply can't stand it though, i prefer the freedom of having the 3.5mm. The other reason that the USB connection for the PC is the same as the headphone port, in other words, it's all proprietary will probably peeve you off a bit.
Other than that, be sure to be shocked at the difference in quality (not phone quality but display quality).
It's close to half the price though, so big choices.
Ok thanks guys for the info. I think what I will do, I go to a verizon wireless store and mess with the Omnia there. Since the Gsm version that would have to be imported is the same as the CDMA version here in the U.S., it should give me an easy comparison
Had an Omnia for 5 months!!!
What a peice of junk.
TomTom dosn't run properly without 3rd party apps.
Yhe screen is rubbish, slightest bit of muck and its got a scratch.
Wireless functions, including WiFi, GSM, GPRS etc are crap. I never held a connection on my wifi at home for more than 30 seconds (and no theres nothing wrong with my router)
Best thing I did was swap it for a Blackstone.
It Just works, what more can I say
Don't buy the Omnia, stick with the Blackstone. IMHO its the best phone on the market at this time
Alchopop
Thanks guys for the opinions, thats why I love this place lol. I'm am out of town right now, but when I get back, I will swing by a Verizon shop and play with the Omnia for a while. Please keep the opinions coming
Hi Folks,
I've Google'd already, but didn't find any evidence of any sort of a "Teardown" article on the Hero. Got lots of hits on G-1 teardowns, but nothing on the Hero. Anyone seen one?
I'm wondering if anyone has made inside of a handset yet and discovered if there is a serial console or JTAG port accessible on these?
All I've seen are ones that say Hero and lead to G1 or fake Hero ones. =/
I'll keep you posted if I find anything. I want to take my Hero apart so I can get the dust out of my screen and then seal it better so dust won't be an issue.
How to take apart Htc Hero (European version "G3")
my screen broke and when I called the authorised service store they said it would cost me 200 dollars to change the screen.. so I took matters into my own hands and decided to open it and document it for all to see
http://xmediahandyman.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-to-take-apart-htc-hero-european.html
hope it helps!
http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/22036-sprint-htc-hero-disassembly-diy.html
Just needed it myself!
There's a photo series at: pdacenter.ru / razborka / htc_hero
Make sure you take the SD card out before you pry the casing off. It will break it
As an old XDA user, (my last was the XDA IIi) I have fond memories of using this forum and been reading reviews on the HD2 has led me back here
Its so nice to see that there is a community of people still working away
OK, I am still wavering on buying one of these things HD2 (that is if Vodaphone actually do have stock and if I am convinced that Vodaphone is the best way forward as O2s 3G coverage is crap where i live)
So my Questions:
How much has the OS progressed since my old XDA IIi? One thing I would love to be able to do is alter web pages and FTP them to the server,does software exist for this yet?
My major pet hate with the XDA's was the loss of everything once the battery expired.
had an iphone for last couple of years and trying not to be blind sighted by all the positive stuff i am reading bought the HD2, but severely tempted!!
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My major pet hate with the XDA's was the loss of everything once the battery expired.
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This stopped being the case a long, long time ago! And Resco Explorer has an FTP add in which used to work for me over Wifi. I haven't used it in a long while.
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As an old XDA user, (my last was the XDA IIi)
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That was my first windows phone, and boy was I laughed at all those years ago for having a phone so big, with a 3.5 inch screen. My next 2 phones had 2.8 inch screens and everyone said "Wow, nice phone!" I thought it was a backward step going smaller - So I dread to think what people think of a 4.3 incher! lol
Phones were good back then, and that phone was great. Not too fancy, but fully functional. And for me, I know a 3.5 inch 360x240 res screen is better than a 2.8 inch 640x420 anyday! And that keyboard worked... it was an add on, but it worked.
There's a lot of change; but then nothings changed. Some things, like your "today screen" have gone, but has it been replaced for the better???? I can't tell you, it's a personnal thing, but yes I think it has improved, but you can get the XDAii feel if you want. Except it'll be a lot quicker!
I hope someone else can explain it better. Basically, phones were good back then, then they went crappy, now.... coming along again???? I haven't got the HD2 yet (I have a Touch Diamond) - yes there's some probs (minor/major?), but boy has this phone got it's share of knockers from the Ifone community! Rattled? I don't know. All I can say is I have a 160gb Ipod. It is good for playing music, until you want to put music on there, search for stuff, watch films... at the end of the day, I find it fecking annoying. But it is good, I'm told. Each to they're own.
This phone seems to have a fair share of WM newbies going for it too, and they don't have the know how or patience to get the best out of it. They give up after 2 hours; I'm still tweaking my Diamond after 18 months!
You either "are", or "are not".... you "will" or "won't"! This IS the Dark Side, and I like the dark.
My first phone was a very large vodaphone, in 1992, then i had a Hutchinson Telecome Mobile (Orange!!) then I think I had a Motorola Startac
then the tiny Sony (Z5?).....
These days I prefer a phone for internet access rather than speaking to people.
I have been relatively happy with my iPhone, but miss the fact there is this little community of developers all working away with an opportunity for hacks and cracks!
I love (!) the idea of being able to have to carry 2/3 extra batteries around with me!
Is it a pain to keep hot swapping the MicroSD card? I read somewhere that they can take up to 32GB , but have yet to find more than 16gb
The idea of having unlimited storage to be able to carry around with me is appealing
16GB is the maximum available SD card size ATM. 32GB cards were announced relatively early this year but never made it to the public. I hear Apple is just buying all the flash memory available out there.
Storage will always be limited by 32GB as that's the maximum theoretical SDHC capacity.
Swapping cards requires removing the battery cover, but other than that it's easy (i.e. it doesn't require to turn off your phone or anything).
SDXC will change that (talking about terabytes theoretically), but no devices support that.
Hey guys, since the HD2 is like the most developed phone ever, I'm thinking on buying it. Do you think is worth the the hardware? Are there any usual problems? is it easy to install ROMs on the device ( I really didn't install any ROM on any device, but I'll probably do it on a kaiser later) ?
Thanks for the help,
mfsr98
P.S. I have the original Touch HD, but it really sucks, and this device can take pretty much everything
depends on what u need for spec ,but if you want a phone that stops starts and goes lol the, it will be ok its easy to put a rom on it long as you read and understand the guides out there for a old phone its stil got a lot of fans ,
samuel79 said:
depends on what u need for spec ,but if you want a phone that stops starts and goes lol the, it will be ok its easy to put a rom on it long as you read and understand the guides out there for a old phone its stil got a lot of fans ,
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thanks for the answer. How much touches can the HD2 hold at once?
I still can't get why the device is still so expensive, since is old for MOST.
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thanks for the answer. How much touches can the HD2 hold at once?
I still can't get why the device is still so expensive, since is old for MOST.
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Probly cause it has the specs of a MT4G 4.3" screen eryone loves a big screen. good camera and more development than the space industry and can run meego < even though its not used much > ubuntu windows 98 , android all the way up to 4.0.4 ICS win phone 7 win 6.5 I mean this phone does it all!! You can find these on craigslist for 125-150 nowadays and you get alot of device for the money !!
isn't Craigslist something from America? Cause I live in Portugal
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On eBay you can get mint condition (almost new) hd2s (phone only) for around 190 usd (buy it now price). More used ones (Inc. Accessories) and carrier locked for less, down to around 110 usd, which is usu the max prices of broken ones. It's a good price considering the repair fees total around that much and you are buying the only phone that can dual boot wp7 and android.
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Probly cause it has the specs of a MT4G 4.3" screen eryone loves a big screen. good camera and more development than the space industry and can run meego < even though its not used much > ubuntu windows 98 , android all the way up to 4.0.4 ICS win phone 7 win 6.5 I mean this phone does it all!! You can find these on craigslist for 125-150 nowadays and you get alot of device for the money !!
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that is very true ,look at what a vgc iphone 2g ,or 3 sells on ebay at the end off the day thats what they are worth ,the way i see it the desire hd is just a heavy modded hd2 ive had both in the past and the m/b are the same tbh ,other than the 8m camera there is no real difference
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mfsr98 said:
isn't Craigslist something from America? Cause I live in Portugal
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i beleve its world wide as i can get it in the uk but it must be only expats that list on it the deals are rubbish i much prefer gumtree
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hengsheng120 said:
On eBay you can get mint condition (almost new) hd2s (phone only) for around 190 usd (buy it now price). More used ones (Inc. Accessories) and carrier locked for less, down to around 110 usd, which is usu the max prices of broken ones. It's a good price considering the repair fees total around that much and you are buying the only phone that can dual boot wp7 and android.
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tbh i would watch what you are doing there i fear these may be the same as the htc p3470 on the bay im not sure any off them are still made now so "how can a nearly 3 year old phone be brand new " (althru we still use the p3470 here for taxi work its what the company gives out but cordic have a deal with htc as they are uk wide
hengsheng120 said:
On eBay you can get mint condition (almost new) hd2s (phone only) for around 190 usd (buy it now price). More used ones (Inc. Accessories) and carrier locked for less, down to around 110 usd, which is usu the max prices of broken ones. It's a good price considering the repair fees total around that much and you are buying the only phone that can dual boot wp7 and android.
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Is ebay really reliable? xD
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Is ebay really reliable? xD
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yes and i here that a lot on here a long as the seller has good feedback and is not in outermongonla lol then it should be fine,.. what a lot off ppl dont know is that ebay have changed there policy and if a seller has low feedback or fairly new, all high value stuff like mobiles the money you pay'd them is held for 30 days or until you levee positive feedback ,i buy a lot here in the uk ive find it ok ,long as the desprction meets what you get in the post it should be fine
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Is ebay really reliable? xD
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i got my 2nd on ebay, but I waited for one local enough to meet up and examine it, plus paid cash so got a tenner off too.
Useful, yes, reliable, maybe.
try ebay Hong Kong, they still have Brand New ones running WinMo 6.5
Gr8 Phone
mfsr98 said:
Hey guys, since the HD2 is like the most developed phone ever, I'm thinking on buying it. Do you think is worth the the hardware? Are there any usual problems? is it easy to install ROMs on the device ( I really didn't install any ROM on any device, but I'll probably do it on a kaiser later) ?
Thanks for the help,
mfsr98
P.S. I have the original Touch HD, but it really sucks, and this device can take pretty much everything
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1 of my best smartphone till now.
but it has 1 deficit and that is it's battery, otherwise i call it's a PUMA.
Indeed there's a lot of custom ROM, oh don't talk about them just imagine the great chef's ROM for HD2 and their tweaks ....
Hey guys, I know this thread is a bit old, but like this I don't do a new one.
So, it was me who started this thread and I'm still thinking on buying one of these, but I got questions about the screen:
-I still didn't understand if the screen is resistive or capacitive...
-Does the screen use pressure like in a resistive one, or does it work like a capacitive screen?
-Does it have a good definition?
And one more question, not about the screen:
-should I buy the T-mobile version just because of the specs? I see it has a lot of problems, and if it does, I would buy the international version with no doubt!
Thanks in advance,
mfsr98
T-Mobile has no more problems from a hardware perspective over the international version.
Main issue with T-Mobile (TMOUS) is idiots flashing a .51 radio & can't really blame the phone for that ...
Digi is capacitive ... Buying with care & at reasonable low cost still makes it a worth while buy, buy badly & you will have a nice desk paper-weight. Many for sale are badly repaired or have mainboard/nand/digi issues ...
Mister B said:
T-Mobile has no more problems from a hardware perspective over the international version.
Main issue with T-Mobile (TMOUS) is idiots flashing a .51 radio & can't really blame the phone for that ...
Digi is capacitive ... Buying with care & at reasonable low cost still makes it a worth while buy, buy badly & you will have a nice desk paper-weight. Many for sale are badly repaired or have mainboard/nand/digi issues ...
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tnx for the reply... where did you buy yours btw?
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Hey guys, I know this thread is a bit old, but like this I don't do a new one.
So, it was me who started this thread and I'm still thinking on buying one of these, but I got questions about the screen:
-I still didn't understand if the screen is resistive or capacitive...
Capacitive
-Does the screen use pressure like in a resistive one, or does it work like a capacitive screen?
-Does it have a good definition?
Images are sharp, colours are poor and performs terribly in direct sunlight
And one more question, not about the screen:
-should I buy the T-mobile version just because of the specs? I see it has a lot of problems, and if it does, I would buy the international version with no doubt!
Buy either, the TMOUS basically has more internal storage and is slightly taller than the EU one.
Thanks in advance,
mfsr98
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Answered in red. Also in response to one of your much older questions, the screen only supports 2 points, and it isn't particularly good at doing even that.
I have this phone for while, and i had only one problem. One day, screen just doesn't responded to my touches. So, i had to change sensor. But still its best smartphone that I had
Sorry for bad English.
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tnx for the reply... where did you buy yours btw?
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Got mine from company I work for ...
in terms of screen colours I think they are quite good, Samsungs look awful to me though so each to his/her own.
direct sunlight visibility is poor but so are most.
Good phone but if intending to use Android only plenty of better hardware & stronger hardware devices available for a little more cost ...
Thank you everybody for the answers. Being capacitive does it mean it's not pressure activated, just like, for example, you touch it with less force possible and it selects ? (like the sll)
yes, thats what capacitive means, , not pressure. The screen is glass, you'd put your finger through it if you tried a pressure press. (well you wouldnt, cos its pretty tough, but u get the idea)
Being both amazed by the sh**load of OSes the HD2 can run and in need of a smartphone, I decided to buy one. Just one thing I am not sure about - new or used? What I am most concerned about is the state of the NAND memory - knowing that it has a limited lifespan or reads and writes, I am somewhat afraid of getting one that is close to it's death. Also, what about TRIM availability? Wouldn't want to run into a unit that's slowed down to a speed of a crippled snail just to find out that there's no remedy.
New if can & price good, used is indeed risky & most have bad repairs & faults.
You can find good used but it hard these days.
good luck finding a new five year old phone now, though. I'd choose something else, from experience I know once you get into the mod scene of this phone you get to know it's not really that great nor alive at this moment.
still new available (can buy in my local phone mall) but would only buy if price cheap.
Would only buy one if really need cross platform support or need run WM6.5.
Other option is buying one with dead or cracked digitizer & fitting new digi as broken but clean HD2 can be had for around 22USD & Digitizers are 12USD.
@Spaqin - what'd be the problem with picking up a new HD2? Some new ones still sold on eBay, so...
@Mister B - I am a bit afraid of digitizer replacements, as the last time I did it (on my previous phone - Samsung Galaxy Ace-i GT-S5830i) the result was... well, functional, but barely - registering touches when not being touched at all, or not responding at all. Also, the reason I'm picking this phone is that I don't have much money to invest, and I like the freedom of OS choice - on any other phone that I know of, I'm pretty much locked to whatever OS it has.. Just the idea of flashing whatever OS I feel like got me excited. If anyone can recommend anything similar at a similar price, I'm open to suggestions.
@Spaqin
Up to really then on what available to you in your region.
eBay new or used is iffy unless incredibly good feedback.
I been lucky with a few used ones picked up from local phone shop that took them as part exchange when doing upgrades.
Certainly odd good ones come on eBay but most are same tat going round so be careful.
I still use HD2 & WM6.5.5 & it perfectly decent device.
To be honest best way of buying a bargain is with broken digitizer, I bought one from ebay with all original accessories & box & very good condition besides dead digi plus it still had void stickers in tact, repair is cheap but certainly need experience at least one before you good at it.
Nothing else has same cross platform support.
Certainly a nice device if price & condition good. happy hunting .
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@Spaqin
Up to really then on what available to you in your region.
eBay new or used is iffy unless incredibly good feedback.
I been lucky with a few used ones picked up from local phone shop that took them as part exchange when doing upgrades.
Certainly odd good ones come on eBay but most are same tat going round so be careful.
I still use HD2 & WM6.5.5 & it perfectly decent device.
To be honest best way of buying a bargain is with broken digitizer, I bought one from ebay with all original accessories & box & very good condition besides dead digi plus it still had void stickers in tact, repair is cheap but certainly need experience at least one before you good at it.
Nothing else has same cross platform support.
Certainly a nice device if price & condition good. happy hunting .
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No hope of buying one locally, new ones ain't available in stores anymore, and even used ones don't seem to pop up over here - the closest thing I've ever seen is a HD Mini.
I think I'll eventually buy a new one on eBay, as both sellers that have nice offers have 98,8% positive rep, but just in case - what about the NAND? Is the stuff I listed in the first post a real issue or just my imaginary concerns?
Also, bit offtopic: what could have been my mistake when changing the digitizer on the Ace?
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No hope of buying one locally, new ones ain't available in stores anymore, and even used ones don't seem to pop up over here - the closest thing I've ever seen is a HD Mini.
I think I'll eventually buy a new one on eBay, as both sellers that have nice offers have 98,8% positive rep, but just in case - what about the NAND? Is the stuff I listed in the first post a real issue or just my imaginary concerns?
Also, bit offtopic: what could have been my mistake when changing the digitizer on the Ace?
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I certainly don't like buying them when think well used on Android, a lot of flashing can indeed bring up nand issues. Other issue with HD2s pushed hard on android is BGA issues with cpu due to higher running temps.
Expect your digitizer was due to flex connection or rough handling, to do hd2 digitizer really well does require experience, the first one will never be best & without precise strip down & handling many things can be damaged ...
Any advices for replacement HD2?
Thanks.
You can use swappa.com to try to find one (please do not use this site for buying/selling as it is against our rules). They should go pretty cheap as how old they are.
The HD2 was my all time favorite device and I spent a lot of time on these forums in the HD2 section, flashing different builds of WM, WP, and Android daily. But the hardware is so old that it really makes no sense except for nostalgia.
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You can use swappa.com to try to find one (please do not use this site for buying/selling as it is against our rules). They should go pretty cheap as how old they are.
The HD2 was my all time favorite device and I spent a lot of time on these forums in the HD2 section, flashing different builds of WM, WP, and Android daily. But the hardware is so old that it really makes no sense except for nostalgia.
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There is still android development occurring, we already have good kitkat builds, a new 3.0 kernel and people are working on lollipop ATM. I suppose it depends on the price really.
Tempted to dust off your old HD2 orangekid?
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There is still android development occurring, we already have good kitkat builds, a new 3.0 kernel and people are working on lollipop ATM. I suppose it depends on the price really.
Tempted to dust off your old HD2 orangekid?
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I am actually. Hands down best device ever.
I haven't done anything with it in a few years actually, but maybe I'll see how recent dev stuff is on it.
nice
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Being both amazed by the sh**load of OSes the HD2 can run and in need of a smartphone, I decided to buy one. Just one thing I am not sure about - new or used? What I am most concerned about is the state of the NAND memory - knowing that it has a limited lifespan or reads and writes, I am somewhat afraid of getting one that is close to it's death. Also, what about TRIM availability? Wouldn't want to run into a unit that's slowed down to a speed of a crippled snail just to find out that there's no remedy.
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if you can find new that is beyond belief and really really GOOD! If refurbished, be aware of those... Good mint condition used unit may be the best bet... good luck.
Of course a new one. If it used, who knows what the previous owner did to it.