is it because i have a class 2 memory card?
it lags and i get the htc screen alot after i exit from an app.
if i get a class 6, will the phone run as smooth as it did with the stock rom on there?
Which ROM are you using? Could be something else.
If you are rocking a class 2 card, you might want to not use the Apps2SD feature of rooted roms, you have plenty of space on the phone.
When I first rooted my MT3G I wasnt using the SD card for apps and it ran so much faster on the Cyanogen ROM than on the stock ROM.
im using the one click method. im fairly new to the whole rooting stuff, so im not to savvy just yet.
i believe it runs off the memory card if im not mistaken
Be mindful.
mahfuzurkhan said:
im using the one click method. im fairly new to the whole rooting stuff, so im not to savvy just yet.
i believe it runs off the memory card if im not mistaken
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If you utilized the One-Click Root Method (correctly) you shouldn't have immediately run into any issues. In fact, if you played it safe and flashed a Cyanogen ROM - hopefully stable at first...then you should be in great shape. Obviously, since that doesn't appear to be the case. Consider this:
- Upgrading your card to a Class 6, the rewrite speeds exceed that of the standard Class 2 and 4 cards.
- Wipe, re-flash, and install your applications to a reformatted SD card.
- If your card isn't partitioned to some extent, might I suggest that you search a tutorial on HOW-TO (one you can fully understand) partition the card properly.
- Always, always, always...NANDROID backup a fully functional ROM - just in case you should ever encounter a problem.
mahfuzurkhan said:
is it because i have a class 2 memory card?
it lags and i get the htc screen alot after i exit from an app.
if i get a class 6, will the phone run as smooth as it did with the stock rom on there?
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if you are running hero, it will be slow... if you want a fast rom for the mytouch, try cyanogen or jacxrom
How do I disable the apps2sd feature? I'm running cyanogen 4.0.4 if that makes a difference
if you dont have linux ext partitions in the sd card, it wont do it.
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I've got and old version of CM, and before I upgrade to 2.25, I want to partition the SD Card that came with the phone to allow Apps2SD. The manuals suggest that you need anything above a Class 2 SD Card, but I can't find any information on Google as to what the stock MyTouch SD card class is. There's a big '6' on the card itself, but I'm hesitant to think that it came with a Class 6, considering that a class 6 is top of the line.
Thanks.
the stock sd card that comes with the mytouch is a sandisk 4gb class 2.
Dang! No Apps2SD then.
Thanks.
TheBigCheese0 said:
Dang! No Apps2SD then.
Thanks.
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You can still do apps2sd with a class 2. But on a mytouch it is unnecessary because you have nearly 300mb for apps. the g1 only had about 80 and that was with the hard spl giving you extra space.
If your memory card has a 6 on it, then it might be a class 6. anyway that you can post a picture to confirm?
Hmmm, maybe I misunderstood the purpose of Apps2SD then. I assumed it was so that if you wiped the OS of the device, you wouldn't have to go back and re-download all of them. Is it just for extra space?
I don't have something to take a picture with at the moment, but it sure gives the impression of a class 6. I'm going to skip the partitioning for now, and do it later, since it's not vital to CM 4.2.5
If you are just upgrading to a newer version of the same rom, or wiping a rom, then yes, you do keep your apps. If you flash a different rom altogether, it is recommended that you wipe your sd card, including the ext partition. so you lose the apps if you do that.
It was originally for extra space because the G1 could only hold like 30 apps and the memory would run low, or you could download some apps that are about 6mb in size, and you would fill it up even quicker, and with the cache being stored on the phone, bye bye phone memory in a flash.
The mytouch fixed that by having all that much needed extra memory for exactly that purpose. If you are worried about having to redownload all your apps again, get backup for root users. It will backup your apps, and if you wipe, or jump from rom to rom, you can get them all back with just a couple of key presses.
Ah, okay then. Thanks for the help.
I thought this might be useful to anyone else in my situation. I had apps2sd installed on the stock 4GB card but purchased a larger class 6 card and wanted to seamlessly switch over without reinstalling all my apps and have my application data work correctly etc. I couldn't find a straightforward guide online so I gave it my best educated shot and it worked for me. If you got apps2sd working then you should be familiar with the partitioning etc.
I got it to work upgrading using the following steps:
1. Nandroid +ext backup!
2. Copied all files/folders from old (stock) card onto folder in computer using a card reader (apps2sd and linux swap partitions aren't visible but are included in the nandroid ext backup) (Put aside old/stock card with all original data and partitions just in case the rest doesn't work)
3. Inserted new card into phone and booted into 1.6.2 recovery (go Carebear!)
4. Partioned new card. (I actually changed the partition size from previous setup so it shouldn't matter as it worked fine for me. Made 32MB linux swap and 512MB ext2 and the remainder FAT32)
5. Upgraded ext2 partition to ext3. Shut down.
6. Removed new card from phone, insert into card reader and copy all files from folder backup of old card onto the FAT32 partition of the new card.
7. Insert new card back into phone. Boot to recovery again and do a Nandroid restore of your +ext backup and VOILA!! It boot looped once but after second boot it has been running flawlessly with all apps installed on ext3 partition and all original data in place etc.
Hope this helps anyone confused, as I sure was. It really was much simpler than I thought it would be.
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I thought this might be useful to anyone else in my situation. I had apps2sd installed on the stock 4GB card but purchased a larger class 6 card and wanted to seamlessly switch over without reinstalling all my apps and have my application data work correctly etc. I couldn't find a straightforward guide online so I gave it my best educated shot and it worked for me. If you got apps2sd working then you should be familiar with the partitioning etc.
I got it to work upgrading using the following steps:
1. Nandroid +ext backup!
2. Copied all files/folders from old (stock) card onto folder in computer using a card reader (apps2sd and linux swap partitions aren't visible but are included in the nandroid ext backup) (Put aside old/stock card with all original data and partitions just in case the rest doesn't work)
3. Inserted new card into phone and booted into 1.6.2 recovery (go Carebear!)
4. Partioned new card. (I actually changed the partition size from previous setup so it shouldn't matter as it worked fine for me. Made 32MB linux swap and 512MB ext2 and the remainder FAT32)
5. Upgraded ext2 partition to ext3. Shut down.
6. Removed new card from phone, insert into card reader and copy all files from folder backup of old card onto the FAT32 partition of the new card.
7. Insert new card back into phone. Boot to recovery again and do a Nandroid restore of your +ext backup and VOILA!! It boot looped once but after second boot it has been running flawlessly with all apps installed on ext3 partition and all original data in place etc.
Hope this helps anyone confused, as I sure was. It really was much simpler than I thought it would be.
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Thanks for the procedure, that will be very useful!
I'll also take this chance to ask you how were apps2sd performing with the stock 4Gb SD? this is the one thing that's keeping me from going the apps2sd way, not knowing if the stock card is too slow for it to work correctly.
danimar1 said:
Thanks for the procedure, that will be very useful!
I'll also take this chance to ask you how were apps2sd performing with the stock 4Gb SD? this is the one thing that's keeping me from going the apps2sd way, not knowing if the stock card is too slow for it to work correctly.
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Honestly, I didn't notice ANY difference in performance once I got it set up correctly. I have a class 6 card now but really, they seemed to run perfect on the stock class 2.
phaelenp said:
Honestly, I didn't notice ANY difference in performance once I got it set up correctly. I have a class 6 card now but really, they seemed to run perfect on the stock class 2.
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The real difference between a class2 and a class6 has to do with the swap, not so much a2sd, although the apps may load a little faster(nominal difference)... it really is all about the swap, and being able to write and read it faster.
On a G1, with 96MBs of swap, and most of a Hero ROMs RAM being on the swap partition, it was a huge difference, very noticeable, with the N1, very little will ever end up on the swap, and mostly is there to make it so that you can open a few more apps.
pjcforpres said:
The real difference between a class2 and a class6 has to do with the swap, not so much a2sd, although the apps may load a little faster(nominal difference)... it really is all about the swap, and being able to write and read it faster.
On a G1, with 96MBs of swap, and most of a Hero ROMs RAM being on the swap partition, it was a huge difference, very noticeable, with the N1, very little will ever end up on the swap, and mostly is there to make it so that you can open a few more apps.
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What do you recommend for size with the swap partition on an N1? I just went with the default 32MBs. Will I see any increase in performance by increasing that?
phaelenp said:
What do you recommend for size with the swap partition on an N1? I just went with the default 32MBs. Will I see any increase in performance by increasing that?
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It is all about preference... with the N1 there really is little to no need for a swap. If you use it, yes the developer recommended 32 is probably best.
But this phone has so much RAM, that swap isn't really needed at all. The whole idea behind the swap partitions was so we could boot a larger ROM than the stock phone could handle, ie a Hero ROM on a G1.
None the less, there are some small benefits gained with swap used with one of the Desire ROMs... for me, I don't use enough different apps to really see those benefits, but others that use tons of apps will see the added RAM.
pjcforpres said:
It is all about preference... with the N1 there really is little to no need for a swap. If you use it, yes the developer recommended 32 is probably best.
But this phone has so much RAM, that swap isn't really needed at all. The whole idea behind the swap partitions was so we could boot a larger ROM than the stock phone could handle, ie a Hero ROM on a G1.
None the less, there are some small benefits gained with swap used with one of the Desire ROMs... for me, I don't use enough different apps to really see those benefits, but others that use tons of apps will see the added RAM.
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Thanks! I have a lot of apps installed but I'm rarely using a lot of them simultaneously so I guess no need to worry about it. I mean, this thing frickin' FLIES as I have it set up now!!
Nothing too big. I've searched everywhere on this and apparently this is supposed to work, but:
I can't get Live Wallpapers to work
and I can't get the Nexus Launcher to work. Both of these just force close.
Oh, and how do I use Apps2sd? Its greyed out in the settings menu and I can't touch it. Thanks in advance.
All of this has already been answered. Just search the thread of the rom you are using. I promise, its in there.
Thanks haha. Should've done that. But I didn't get anything answered on the Nexus Launcher. It just keeps force closing. Would you choose ADW or Nexus?
Hey Nikolai, what ROM did you use? I've been really busy with a new job and didn't want to get crazy after (finally) rooting, so I went with Ivan's 1.0 ROM. It's essentially the basic Verizon setup without the junk, and overclocking. Apps2SD doesn't work...grrr.
I'd like to try something with Apps2SD and Live wallpapers, but I don't want anything buggy.
Nikolai2.1 said:
Thanks haha. Should've done that. But I didn't get anything answered on the Nexus Launcher. It just keeps force closing. Would you choose ADW or Nexus?
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Launcher Pro is a lot faster than both of those. I would choose that.
im just wondering. now that im rooted what specific apps do you guys reccomend? i have Fresh Rom installed with overclocking just curious what other utilities i should get
A2SD has to have the SD card partitioned. You can do this in the Recovery menu where you flash new ROMS. It will erase everything so make a backup of what you want from your SD Card first then in the partitioning setup it ask for a swap and ext3 size default it is 32mb for swap and 512mb for ext3. After that you should be able to turn A2SD on.
If you choose, and shortly after you turn A2SD on you will, to stop using A2SD repeat the same steps for partitioning the SD card but when you are asked sizes scroll the track ball down till it is 0 for both swap and ext3.
I don't like it because I don't feel like buying a Class 4 SD card or higher to make it worth while. If you are using the stock SD card you got with the phone it will make your phone boot slower and take longer to access the Apps.
I don't know what ROM you are using but the KaosFroyo ROM is a great ROM it is small and that will save you more room for apps if that is what you are looking for.
this thread has nothing to do with development for the eris. can someone please move this to general?
lostpilot28 said:
Hey Nikolai, what ROM did you use? I've been really busy with a new job and didn't want to get crazy after (finally) rooting, so I went with Ivan's 1.0 ROM. It's essentially the basic Verizon setup without the junk, and overclocking. Apps2SD doesn't work...grrr.
I'd like to try something with Apps2SD and Live wallpapers, but I don't want anything buggy.
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I was on eris lightning bolt but i just switched over to ic3rom
Oh and can someone please explain to me what a MAPS rom is? I got the ic3rom lwp version but i dont know the difference
morphius2036 said:
A2SD has to have the SD card partitioned. You can do this in the Recovery menu where you flash new ROMS. It will erase everything so make a backup of what you want from your SD Card first then in the partitioning setup it ask for a swap and ext3 size default it is 32mb for swap and 512mb for ext3. After that you should be able to turn A2SD on.
If you choose, and shortly after you turn A2SD on you will, to stop using A2SD repeat the same steps for partitioning the SD card but when you are asked sizes scroll the track ball down till it is 0 for both swap and ext3.
I don't like it because I don't feel like buying a Class 4 SD card or higher to make it worth while. If you are using the stock SD card you got with the phone it will make your phone boot slower and take longer to access the Apps.
I don't know what ROM you are using but the KaosFroyo ROM is a great ROM it is small and that will save you more room for apps if that is what you are looking for.
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I think I know why apps2sd slowed down your phone. You selected 32mb for swap. I selected 0 for my swap and it's been fast on every apps2sd enabled rom I've used. I bought a class 6 sd card thinking it would make my phone even faster but that was joke. My wife's Eris has the stock class 2 card and I can't tell a difference in the speeds.
I also agree with LexusBrian400 above. Launcher Pro is my favorite launcher. Play around in the preferences for a bit. It has some cool options.
snyluc13 - You need setcpu (or some other app) to control the overclock. Do not set on boot until you have found a setting that wont lock your phone.
Nikolai2.1 said:
Oh and can someone please explain to me what a MAPS rom is? I got the ic3rom lwp version but i dont know the difference
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Without some trickery and some tweaking, you can either get nav(maps version) and no lwp or lwp and no nav (working that is)
My head is aching with the sheer amount of information it is trying to process. I got a Nook Color about a month ago but have been putting off using it because I am still trying to figure out how to do what I want to do.
I've been going over the threads on the dev forum and after reading a lot of the threads, I still can't find exactly what I need (or maybe I've found it but I just haven't realized it yet).
My Nook Color is running latest official update from B&N (meaning 2.2 and B&N apps).
Anyway here's what I need:
1. I need to be able to dual boot into either HC or a rooted gingerbread-based version of android (is this the clockwork 7 thing?) solely from an SD card
2. Should not do anything to the Nooks internal memory (meaning: won't void warranty)
3. The dual boot manager, HC and and gingerbread-based version of android should all run on sd card. nothing will be placed/done on the nook (is this it? i'm so confused i'm not even sure anymore --- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018)
4. The dual boot manager will still have the ability to install other custom roms on to the sd card when i put the zip file of the image on to the sd card (something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957)
5. Should have the overclock thingamajig
Anyway, are there any solutions to this? the "Dualboot Phiremod / Honeycomb Image for SDcard" seems the closest so far but I can't figure out if it installs a rom manager into the SD card with which I can install newer versions of the overclock kernel or newer versions of the custom ROMS based on HC preview or newer version of the CM7 nightly image. gaaaah.
Please help >_<. I promise I'm not stupid. This is just like information overload and I seriously am having a real headache (not just figuratively) right now.
Follow the thread below. From it, you can install plain CM7 (the best known gingerbread rom) strictly onto your SD card. If you have multiple cards, you can try out the different flavors of CM7:
CM7 Stable (latest is 7.0.3); OR
CM7 Nightly (latest is 76); OR
Beta CM7 .32 kernel, though this one is still has some bugs.
Phiremod is a themed CM7 which I haven't tried, while the above are more plain vanilla android. Also use a Sandisk card if you have one as they seem to have better overall speed regardless of Class, at least 2gb size or bigger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Hi LBN1, thanks for the quick reply.
Does this work process allow me to install HoneyComb as well as a separate boot option?
I just realized that I'm actually looking for an SD dual boot of HC and CM7 w/ OC. Does this exist? >.<
Oh, this process is not for a dual booting SD card. It allows a rom on a SD card, and then take out the SD card and you can boot to stock B&N software, so it is a quasi dual boot so to speak. There are some actual dual boot options out there but I don't have any experience with any of them...
Same thing with Honeycomb roms, never tried any of them since from what I read they are still in early, beta stages meaning they really don't work as well as CM7.
LBN1 said:
Oh, this process is not for a dual booting SD card. It allows a rom on a SD card, and then take out the SD card and you can boot to stock B&N software, so it is a quasi dual boot so to speak. There are some actual dual boot options out there but I don't have any experience with any of them...
Same thing with Honeycomb roms, never tried any of them since from what I read they are still in early, beta stages meaning they really don't work as well as CM7.
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Hehe... yeah I kinda figured that out What I had in mind was something along the lines of dual booting HC/CM7 via SD card and removing the SD card if I wanted to boot to the stock 1.2 (so it's a quasi triple boot) >_<
But thanks for your help!
I think the easiest thing you can do right now is to try the Phiremod/Honeycomb Dual boot sd image which I see you already found out. It wont change or touch your internal system so you are safe. Also its already prepared for you so you just need to burn the img into the sd.
If inserted, the sd image will boot to either Phiremod (which is really a themed version of CM7 7.02 - with the update provided in the same thread or to Honeycomb). I use it and works quite well!!!! It is fast also (provided you use the recommended Sandisk class 4 sd card) as it is overclocked from the sd which you also want.
When I want to use stock BN I just boot without the sd and thats it! I also rooted the internal BN as well to add overclock to the stock BN 2.2 and it is quite snappy when OC to 1.1 mhz.
Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Sure no problem:
1. To root the 1.2 version Nook just follow the steps in this thread, it is not as complicated as it sounds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
2. To install the OC Kernel I used this thread. Pretty simple process. After you root , go to the market and install ROM manager, then do flash clockwork and then reboot to recovery, then do update from zip in sd card and flash the OC Kernel. I used the 1,1 mhz as it is stable and really speed things up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064095
pryonix said:
Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Keep in mind, overclocking definitely technically voids the warranty (as does rooting). Since you mentioned it. Just as bad as installing stuff on the internal EMMC.
greenmky said:
Keep in mind, overclocking definitely technically voids the warranty (as does rooting). Since you mentioned it. Just as bad as installing stuff on the internal EMMC.
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Haha yup... just wanted to know as a "just in case I feel brave enough to void my warranty" haha!
ok guys, noob here ive got my nook running cm7 off the sd card itself but its super laggy, and i cant stand it is there a better way to root it so i dont have to use the sd card and which method has the best success?
If you are not using a sandisk sdcard, you should give a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
Good luck!
any others???
this pny class 4 8 gig card is the only one i have im down to re root the whole thing if that is what it takes... i just wanna have something that works half way decent
I've had bad luck with the PNY cards.. Sandisk made it run really well.. amazing difference..
ok cool ill find one somewhere
Best way to use CM7 is off your internal memory.
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koopakid08 said:
Best way to use CM7 is off your internal memory.
Absolutely, no brainer.
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But the question now is, do you want to upset your stock OS or not?
Or is there a new way to install CM7 on your eMMC without interupting the stock OS?
My NC is still under warranty so I don't want to take the stock OS off yet, although I am very tempted to trade places, putting my stock OS on the SD card and CM7 (as I use it so much more) on the eMMC.
If you don't want to touch the stock OS yet, the sandisk is optimal for these units.
In fact, if you will dig around in posts about SD cards and CM on AD cards, you will find opinions and actual performance tests showing that CM from an SD card can be as fast as CM from eMMC... if you use the correct card.. which is a Sandisk class 2 or 4 of any size.. 2gb and up.
Don't ask me to point you to the posts.. I can't. I only remember reading these things when I was doing similar research.
For $10-20 you can give it a try and do something else if you are not happy.
.. or if you are sure you don't need easy access to stock, go for an eMMC install..
Neither solution is irreversible..
There's nothing the stock Nook can do that Android can't and there's probably a list somewhere of the things Android can do that the stock NC ROM can't but it probably wouldn't fit in this post. Search for 8+1, you can always fall back to "so clean the video wants to play".
Hangman_ said:
But the question now is, do you want to upset your stock OS or not?
Or is there a new way to install CM7 on your eMMC without interupting the stock OS?
My NC is still under warranty so I don't want to take the stock OS off yet, although I am very tempted to trade places, putting my stock OS on the SD card and CM7 (as I use it so much more) on the eMMC.
If you don't want to touch the stock OS yet, the sandisk is optimal for these units.
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Thats not an issue as you can always restore to stock if there is a problem. That is Part of the greatness of SD boot priority. You can restore no matter how screwed up your internal memory is.
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Hangman_ said:
But the question now is, do you want to upset your stock OS or not?
Or is there a new way to install CM7 on your eMMC without interupting the stock OS?
My NC is still under warranty so I don't want to take the stock OS off yet, although I am very tempted to trade places, putting my stock OS on the SD card and CM7 (as I use it so much more) on the eMMC.
If you don't want to touch the stock OS yet, the sandisk is optimal for these units.
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The warranty is not really an issue as I found when I had to have mine replaced. You just restore it so stock. When you create your install image SD card save it in case you have to return your Nook. If that happens, just place the stock ROM .zip on the card and boot from it and wipe everything like you were installing CM7 all over again but instead just flash the stock ROM. It can be found here: http://www.multiupload.com/BW8FIEJ2GH (With thanks to Taosaur.)
ok so now ive got the sandisk card in it it benchmarked 1888 i was way supprised but now it doesnt show up on my computer when i connect the nook via usb i want to still put books on it but it wont boot if i put the books directly on the sd card itself
babycarrot said:
ok so now ive got the sandisk card in it it benchmarked 1888 i was way supprised but now it doesnt show up on my computer when i connect the nook via usb i want to still put books on it but it wont boot if i put the books directly on the sd card itself
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I didn't follow all posts from the beginning so I just make assumption that you're booting CM7 off the Sandisk uSD.
No personal stuff should be placed in the boot partition. Place them in the left-over (/media) storage.
Just install it on the internal memory there are many great Tutorials on it.
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i tried to get to the internal memory but it doesnt recognize it could i partition it and use the second partition for books?
babycarrot said:
i tried to get to the internal memory but it doesnt recognize it could i partition it and use the second partition for books?
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He's not referring to your issue. Just follow what votinh said.
Will the 16GB Sandisk work well or is their a size limit?
dejavecu said:
Will the 16GB Sandisk work well or is their a size limit?
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16 GB works just fine.
Hangman_ said:
But the question now is, do you want to upset your stock OS or not?
Or is there a new way to install CM7 on your eMMC without interupting the stock OS?
My NC is still under warranty so I don't want to take the stock OS off yet, although I am very tempted to trade places, putting my stock OS on the SD card and CM7 (as I use it so much more) on the eMMC.
If you don't want to touch the stock OS yet, the sandisk is optimal for these units.
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I can tell you that I have been running CM7 with nightlies off the uSD card since I got it (3/11). Using an 8gb Sandisk is indistinguishable in speed from the stock system, but SUBSTANTIALLY more useful. Since my NC is still under warranty, all I have to do to "restore" it to stock is take out the uSD card. I love it, and it doesn't take you into the "restore to stock" mess that, while it works fine, is still pretty stressful.
Try a good Sandisk uSD; you probably won't need or want to flash your internal memory.