*jump to ashtricks for immediate problems without reading software/ROM changes.
I know this is going to be made especially difficult with all the different software/combo's that can be loaded, but I have to post this up and see if any one else has seen this and if it might be hardware or software.
I have a HERMS 100 (8525). I first got the phone in April with WM5 (don't know which build they might have been on then) and which ever Radio was coming on them then. My battery would usually last 2 days with my avg use.
This has been the case threw upgrades until the last 2-3 months. I upgraded From one version of WM6 to VP3G's 2.X build of WM6 and I upgraded the radio to which ever version was the newest at that time (maybe 1.47 or 1.50). I Noticed a sudden drop in battery life, but the phone pretty much always made it a full day even with high use, so I didn't think much of it. I did notice about this time that sometimes the phone would alarm me and say it had 20% battery remaining, but if I rebooted the phone it would say 80 or 90% power remaining when it came back on and work fine the rest of the day.
The following has been over the last month. I upgraded to VP3G's 3.0 and again later to 3.6 and again to 3.62. I noticed the battery continued to degrade throughout this time. So I upgraded the radio to 1.54. The battery continued to go down hill at an even rate, but I noticed something else, the battery would not take very long to charge, but was dying faster and faster.
Well I started tracking and experimenting. Starting last week (no change in software or ROM's for the last 2 or 3 weeks) the battery would rarely make it through the day even when the phone was not in use any during the day (Granted I get no cell service at my desk at work, but I never have even back when the phone would last 2 days searching for signal). Most days last week it wouldn't make it 5 hours from being unplugged even when the phone wasn't in use. I decided to run the battery all the way down to where it wouldn't even turn the phone on anymore as I had heard sometimes you needed to do that after a rom upgrade. It did not help, but I noticed that the phone said the battery was fully charged within 2 hours from being completely dead.
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Today was the worst, I unplugged it after being plugged in all night. Unplugged it at 6:45am. I did not use the phone, it just stayed in standby (I hadn't even taken it out of standby any today. I am at work with no service (When I say no service, I don't mean sometimes it finds something, I mean no cell service from any carrier makes it past 10 feet of the front doors entering the building and I am about 150 feet from the closest wall to the outside). I grab the phone at around 10:30am to check on a meeting notice, clicked on the phone to wake up and the battery alarm alerted and the battery said I only had 20% power remaining. In 5 minutes of doing what I was doing the battery had gone down to 10% remaining (so the phone went from lost 90% of it's power, never being used in less then 4 hours). I went back to my desk, plugged the phone back in and within an hour I noticed the amber light on the front that I relate it to telling me it's charging had turned green, I unplugged it and checked it and the battery said it was full 100%. Could the battery really charge that fast?
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I know this would be easier if I could remember what radio and what version of WM5 came on this phone and loaded it back on and I am in the middle of downgrading the radio since I had ran WM6 with no battery issues separate from WM5 until I did that one upgrade with the radio. I guess I am curious if this could be a hardware (phone or battery) where it's not charging fully or if this seems to be a software issue.
I know all the factors that can be involved make this hard, but thanks for any responses you guys can give.
ok, how about this one, Is my battery screwed? I notice while I am using the phone the battery gets really hot. Today it did the same thing of all of a sudden saying I had 10% power after only using it for 5 mintues, rebooted the phone and now I am back to 70%.
Hi,
There's a lot on here about this problem. Have you read the wiki?
Some solutions you might try:
- turn wifi off.
- turn off all beams
- put in the fake server trick.
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise
- invest in a new battery.
WB
Thanks, I have gone through the wiki Continuasly since I got the phone in April, but with all the stuff out there, I could have easily missed something.
- turn wifi off - Never turn it on
- turn off all beams - Beaming disabled
- put in the fake server trick - Have to research that one
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server - have to check, don't have exchange server setup. I do have it checking emails every 15 minutes, but I never had any issues with that setting and the battery lasting a couple of days
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise - X button set to close not minimize and I often check it to see whats running.
- invest in a new battery. - Will be doing that next. Just waiting to see what case I might get for Christmas.
Thanks again, I will research those other items.
I had a similar problem where the stock battery would only ever last for ~7-8 hours - even on standby. I got an extended life 3000mAh battery and that managed to last for about 14 hours.
I had a talk to HTC and they agreed to warranty claim it. I'm still waiting for it back... It was sent back to them on 14/11, and I'm still waiting.
Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
wacky.banana said:
Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
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Well I turned off email checks last night and disabled the radio this morning so it wouldn't search for signal when coming to work and set the phone on my desk. I never used it this morning, just had it sitting on my desk in standby, until about 4 hours after I took it off the charger and the phone buzzed me and when I checked the phone the battery said 0% remaining and the phone cut off a few seconds later (now I am sure if I would have turned it back on the battery would say something like 70%, but I didn't do that this time). I left the phone off and plugged it into the computer to charge, the LED on the front come on amber for about 20 minutes then went to green. I turned the phone on and it says 100%. I don't see how the battery went from 0 to 100 in a matter of 20 minutes.
I did a lot of searching the last couple of days and phone issues from email to bad manufactured batteries (which I happen to have the brand someone suggested as a bad one), I also saw people pointing out do the fake server trick, yet I can't find a single time where anyone said what the trick is or how to do it. Not even in the WIKI where the trick was mentioned as a possible fix (or google for that matter, just the same words first posted in a thread here about it).
So, how do you do this server trick?
I plan to get a new battery after Christmas at any rate.
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338421&highlight=fake+server+trick
I was having the same battery drain problem (less than 8 hrs on a full charge), I did the fake server and turned off auto day light saving time checking the clock settings, I now get 12 - 15 hrs on a full charge.
I'm running vp3G's 3.62.3 AT&T ROM with radio 1.54.07.00
Thanks! I was just finishing flashing a new ROM when I saw this. I did the fake server trick, but this rom doesn't have the Dya Light Savings time option where the instructions say it should be. Maybe that's all removed by this rom. TIme will tell.
Thanks again.
@ Firehawkns
hey buddy!!
I am using a JasJam for the last 2 months. i dont know if my reply is useful to you or not. As far as battery life is concerned am impressed with mine. Am using TNT's latest ROM and my radio version is 1.54.07.00. I use my phone all day with couple of calls that last about 2-3 min each. But every night I get calls from my gf, to whom I talk for 3 hours straight(mostly starting from 11pm to 2 am) and every day I put my phone to charge after I finish the call. So after finishing the call I still have 50% of battery. Moreover our call starts right after I leave work at 11pm so by the time I reach home which is around 11.30pm my phone connects to wifi too. So all the time am on the call as well as an active wifi connection.
So as per my experience the battery life is cool. So try TNT ROM!!!
Interestingly enough, now I've got my phone back from the warranty claim, it's only drawing 81mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT. Before sending it back, it was drawing ~180mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT.
This will just about double the battery life that I get in theory...
Install BatteryStatus on your device and see what it tells you.
That is a cool program.
First off I really hope it isn't the phone, for one it's my third one from Cingular since the first two died within 2 weeks (back in may), second it's got one big gash down the corner where it came out of the holder and hit the road one day. I think that would be just enough reason for them to not do anything with it.
Anyway, I am going to replace the battery because I can't figure out why the phone is doing things like saying it has 20% batt remaing, then I reboot and it goes to 70%. I am hoping this is a battery issue. So far the phone has been unplugged for a tad less then one hour, has not been used and the battery meter is on 90%.
Battery Status is a kick butt program and I plan to do some searching today to see if people have benchmarked there ratings/draw. I notice mine jumps randomly. With wifi, BT, all programs all terminated, backlight on the lowest it will go and radio has one bar 3g sometimes, two bars Edge sometimes, but didn't change during watching this list below, but the MA does this every 5 second refresh:
111--190----125-----109----250----210-----140----135----226---111---etc.
I am currently running a barebones fresh flash WM6 rom with nothing installed except Cingulars media net/ISP settings, radio is 1.47.10. Going to try 1.50 today I think.
I turned the radio off just now and the MA went down (expected) to 84 and is jumping between that and 104. The battery has dropped to 80% since I listed 90 above. The phone has now been unplugged for right at an hour. Also it might be interesting to note that the little battery percent/bar icon on the "Battery Status" software once in a while will display -1% like it is right now, the phones battery display says 80% and when I tap the battery icon on battery status it jumps to 80%.
Anyway, I am just listing points since this thread is here, I know I need to replace the battery first before any additional insight can be brought forward.
Thanks everyone.
Hmm.. On my Schaps 4.22full, radio 1.54.00 on good reception (on Finnish network) I get around 30 mA with GSM and 3G when idling(no wifi, no bluetooth, no beam, backlight around halfway). With airplane mode on I get around 28 mA. Tried with backlight dimmest and the drain was 15mA on GSM network.
Usually I put the 3G off so the battery would last longer.
The phone takes more power when searching the network so it would be a good idea trying to switch the phone part off at your office.
Well, looks like it was indeed the battery. Over the last week the phone would randomly shut off (about 4 times a day), the battery would be at 10% within 4 hours even if the phone hadn't been used, and while using the phone you could almost watch the battery go from 90% to 30% within a 5 minute talk time, reboot the phone and it would be back at 80%.
Put in the new battery yesterday after charging over night and the phone not only didn't shut off at any point, but I had 60% power remaining by the end of the day (with some data and voice use).
The old battery was a Dynapack from China, that I had read on here is prone to defects.
Thanks for the help everyone, wish I would have gotten a new batt sooner.
Hi guys,
i've just got yesterday a used wizard (almost new, used for a week), and i've made my second charge to it. I've found that when the charge reaches about 80%, it just stops charging, and every software reports 100% charge. I take of the USB cable, and reconnect, it, then, it begins to charge once again, and, one hour later (for example, at 85%), it stops again. I repeat the procedure, and same thing happens.
Is this normal?
On the first charge the battery only lasted me 24h (made about 1h of phone calls, and a few SMS, nothing more), and i found this quite few working time.
I'm using TNT 19199.1.0.0 on a G4 (2.17 IPL/SPL).
Thanks in advance..
That seems to me a faulty battery...
My second charge with the previous firmware lasted double that my last one (first time, 1 day, second time about 30h). Now, I've flashed the latest TNT Series on it, and it charged smoothly (100%). I don't know if it was a problem with the previous flash, or if was a problem with the battery itself (maybe because it was too long without any kind of use?).
Anyway, thanks. This seems to be a false alarm
I've done a search but can't find anything to do with my issue. I am running L26LEOV2.1_GoldEdition_213_WWE_21899_SE and have been for probably a month. Everything has been running excellent. I've got AS pushmail, weather etc all running and had no issues.
All of a sudden the battery life has disappeared. Noticed my battery at ~30% last night which was strange as I usually charge every night or 2nd night but it's never that low. After about 45mins it was at 8% just sitting idle (no data or anything running).
Did a full charge last night before going to bed and unplugged it. So 100% charged. This morning I found the phone is off, turn it on and its on 0% then shuts down again due to no power. Would only be like 6-8mths old.
I haven't made any software/ROM changes in weeks so I'm fairly sure it is hardware related. Before I go back to stock ROM and send it in for warranty work, does anyone have any suggestions for things to try beforehand? I don't want to go back to an old Nokia while I'm waiting
You could try BattLog to see where/when the rapid power drain is occurring. I've had my battery do the same thing once. I usually get through the work day with 50% left, but one day (without any use) my HD2 was dead before lunch. The problem went away as mysteriously as it arrived. So maybe just give it a few more charges and see if it works itself out. I'm curious if you've noticed any unusual ammount of heat from the battery? It could very well be that it is failing.
I'll try that program but oddly enough today its been ok, using only 10% with a bit of google maps and phone usage in about 10hr.
My galaxy s4 is just over a month old.
I run my phone with power saving on, lowest brightness, wifi/sync/gestures/bluetooth/4G/gps/location services/etc all off.
Suddenly at approx 55% my phone died and wouldn't turn back on. I couldn't understand, but when charging it and checking battery stats it had apparently drained 55% just spontaneously.
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I thought maybe this was a rom issue, so I wiped all data/cache/battery stats and installed CynogenMod 10.2 v28/08/2013 with only google apps installed (sync off) and as you can see with the following images, I barely used my phone and I am still experiencing the same issue - my phone is spontaneously going from [..}% to 0%. There's just 1.5 hours screen usage in the whole charge cycle. I can pull a maximum of 4-5 hours out of my phone if I don't touch it, and seeing some people racking up even days on their galaxy, I'm sure this isn't normal.
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I'm at uni for up to 12 hrs a day and desperately need a solution to pull a longer day out of my phone, as I rely on it heavily.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
I'd be sending it to a service centre for a warranty fix if it were mine.
I recently purchased a used S4 through Swappa from XDA user @disasp6. When the phone arrived, the battery was fully discharged. I let my wife use the phone a couple of days while hers was being repaired, and she experienced the battery running completely down and needing a recharge before the end of the day after being 100% in the morning. I then turned the phone off and put it aside for over a week and when I tried to turn it on, the battery was dead.
I tried a test, charging the battery to 100% and pulling the battery out of the phone for 24 hours. The battery retained it's charge. It did lose just a little bit of charge in a 24 hour period, but I was able to top it off with about 10 minutes of charging. I then left it in the phone for 24 hours with the phone turned off, and at the end of 24 hours the battery was fully discharged.
I've never seen a problem like this. Any phone I have ever owned has retained it's full charge when turned off. The phone is running safestrap with Goldfinger 9.0 XXUGNK4. It seems to be running normally. I haven't seen any issues with the phone firmware or its operation in the limited time I have been using it.
Does anyone have any idea what the cause of this could be, or how to troubleshoot the issue?
creepyncrawly said:
I recently purchased a used S4 through Swappa from XDA user @disasp6. When the phone arrived, the battery was fully discharged. I let my wife use the phone a couple of days while hers was being repaired, and she experienced the battery running completely down and needing a recharge before the end of the day after being 100% in the morning. I then turned the phone off and put it aside for over a week and when I tried to turn it on, the battery was dead.
I tried a test, charging the battery to 100% and pulling the battery out of the phone for 24 hours. The battery retained it's charge. It did lose just a little bit of charge in a 24 hour period, but I was able to top it off with about 10 minutes of charging. I then left it in the phone for 24 hours with the phone turned off, and at the end of 24 hours the battery was fully discharged.
I've never seen a problem like this. Any phone I have ever owned has retained it's full charge when turned off. The phone is running safestrap with Goldfinger 9.0 XXUGNK4. It seems to be running normally. I haven't seen any issues with the phone firmware or its operation in the limited time I have been using it.
Does anyone have any idea what the cause of this could be, or how to troubleshoot the issue?
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I'd say first thing to do is wipe and start from stock. See if that fixes anything.
Sent from my SGH-I337
I flashed back to stock NJ4, rooted and installed Better Battery Stats. I fully charged the phone and left it unplugged over night. After 8 hours of total inactivity, the battery had discharged from 100% to 60%, and Bettery Battery Stats indicated that the phone was in Deep Sleep 100% of the time since unplugged. There were 0% partial wakelocks of any kind. In my thinking, this verifies that the issue is hardware related. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
I would think idle drain with 100% Deep Sleep should produce somewhere around 0.5% per hour drain, and certainly less than 1%. I'm not familiar with the S IV so I'm not sure the exact number. Can anyone verify this?