gps on sprint mogul 6800 requires activation? - Mogul, XV6800 General

so my sprint mogul is deactivated
and i wanted to use the gps for tomtom
but no go...
i confirmed my settings using gpsviewer
i know its trying
com4 57600 baud
i loaded the latest stock sprint rom from htc website
and installed dcd sprint carrier
it does a funny thing
well first it tries to connect to sprint #777 (assuming for agps)
this, of course, fails with IOTA message (unable to connect)
gpsviewer then finds many satellites but they all instantly disappear
if i let gpsviewer run for a bit the globe view starts flashing
it shows satellites for a brief second then none...and repeats.
certainly does NOT acquire any of them nor get a fix.
anyone have a non-activated phone on sprint laying around to confirm?
also, i believe there is a setting somewhere or registry entry to disable agps
maybe that will unhook this problem i am having
i wouldn't be all that surprised if something like this is purposely programmed in there
just looking for confirmation from anyone else at this point
thanks for any insight

You must use standalone gps not assisted. If it tries to dial out then you are using assisted. You need to disable agps in registry and install quickgps.

where in the registry
thanks

You need registry viewer like total commander or phm registry editor both free programs. You should do some more research on standalone gps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458923

thanks
i spent hours trying to find that info the other day

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my ameo's gps cant fix satellites

My ameo can fix satellites the first day i got in chicago, but from the second day, it no longer fix. it has been so for 1 week.
i use "quick gps" but the gps still doesn't work. then I changed the server where "packedEphemeris.ee" downloaded from by editing the registry, nothing changed. I've used igo,gps viewer,gps tuner etc., the satellite can be displayed around the picture of earth but they are all red and never become blue or green. ive tried hard reset but nothing changed..
I wonder what's wrong with my ameo? Is it possible that my ameo's gps module is broken? or it's just a software issue?
coolish said:
My ameo can fix satellites the first day i got in chicago, but from the second day, it no longer fix. it has been so for 1 week.
i use "quick gps" but the gps still doesn't work. then I changed the server where "packedEphemeris.ee" downloaded from by editing the registry, nothing changed. I've used igo,gps viewer,gps tuner etc., the satellite can be displayed around the picture of earth but they are all red and never become blue or green. ive tried hard reset but nothing changed..
I wonder what's wrong with my ameo? Is it possible that my ameo's gps module is broken? or it's just a software issue?
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I have read here somewhere that the GPS Now causes problems with the GPS and caused some lock-ups requiring a soft reset. See if you can find the thread....(hint....search...LOL ) that discusses it. I had also heard that the Ameo had a GPS problem.....that thread is here too.....good luck.
Hope this helps...........Later
hdbueller said:
I have read here somewhere that the GPS Now causes problems with the GPS and caused some lock-ups requiring a soft reset. See if you can find the thread....(hint....search...LOL ) that discusses it. I had also heard that the Ameo had a GPS problem.....that thread is here too.....good luck.
Hope this helps...........Later
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i have done soft reset many times and hard reset for several times,nothing changed..i have tried setting the gps program port to com4 or com5 and just like what i did when the gps works fine.The applications can connect to the port and find the gps but it just cant fix a usable signal..
here is the screenshot
please help..
Try GPSView
I find that the best program for getting a lock, it normally works in a few seconds. Also, make sure when you turn it on you are in a WIDE open area. You need a good view of the sky in all directions to get initial lock. Wait until its happily locked onto 4 or 5 sats before fiddling or moving.
i have used gps viewer, and i do test it outdoor in open air, but it just cant get fix in hours.
here is the screenshot while using gps view
Not sure if it will work with your software, but I find that my Ameo is far happier using com1 for the GPS port - I believe this is the software port and com4 is hardware. With com1 I can use multiple gps apps at the same time, e.g. Tomtom and Reperion. If the device has not been used for a while, it can sometimes take a few minutes to get a lock, but no longer than 3-4mins. What I generally do is set one of the GPS apps running as I'm getting my keys coat on e.t.c., then by the time I've installed the Ameo in the car and done my 'preflight checks', its got a fix and I can go.
But deffo try com1 if you have that option.
cant download quick gps
hi can i get some help. i got my new ameo but cant seem to get the gps working. when i tap quickgps all that comes up is download and nothing happens. what might be the reason. do i need to get another gps programme installed?
Yes.
QuickGPS is only for downloading sat data, not for actual GPS tracking use!
GoogleMaps is free and quite good. Microsoft Live search same.
Look for GPSView for ppc as well...
Have fun.
how do you make googlemap work? i mean the track function.
Turn off the MS software GPS management, then get the ABSOLUTE LATEST googlemaps mobile.
I think you set the com port manualy in google, com4 or com5 9600
Its best to use the free GPSView to test out the com settings first to make sure you get the right ones. When you get the right port you will SEE the gps data appear in the text box proving its working. This program gets locks quicker too.
When youve got a lock with that, quit it, then run google and use the same com settings.
wilben said:
hi can i get some help. i got my new ameo but cant seem to get the gps working. when i tap quickgps all that comes up is download and nothing happens. what might be the reason. do i need to get another gps programme installed?
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i seem to have a peculiar issue as well. i have had my Ameo for 3 months now and GPS download (to get a fix) my TOMTOM 6 have both worked fine. now i try to download the gps data through quickgps, it says "connecting" and after a while returns an error message " connection failed, please try again later" can anyone help please?

Telus HTC touch/Elf GPS trouble

With the new Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade is available for the Telus HTC touch, we can now have access to the GPS function. Witch is great. The only problem, I kneed to use the Telus Navigator program in order for my GPS to work.
Other program will work but only after enabling the GPS by starting Telus Navigator.
The 2 other program I'm trying to configure are : Google maps and GPS Tuner.
Both work, but not before I turn on the Telus GPS program, even if I set the port manually.
Is there any buddy els with that same problem ?
Salut alex
I have the HTC Touch from Telus (wich is the Vogue by the way, not the Elf, that's the GSM version ( from Rogers))
I have acces to my GPS from Google maps without having to open Telus Navigator or any other software. You just have to make sure you have a data session active. Just move the map in google around so it will connect the data and you should be good to go!
Also, of course, make sure you have checked the "use GPS" function!
Oh! Remember that the phone needs to see the sky to detect satellites! It won't work well inside...
Guys... check out this thread which I started once the leaked rom was released.. In it you will find directions to fully activate your gps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&highlight=telus
Thanks Guys.
I spent two days searching post on finding a way to make it work. For a reason I dont know, I could not activate my GPS without the Telus navigator. And it seams I'm not the only one.
The best way I found is true GPS gate. A software the activate your GPS port. Then I could use any GPS program I installed.
Still trying out a programs to find the best one that suites me tho !

Telus P4000 (Titan) GPS not working.

Hey guys,
I just updated my rom using the latest HTC upgrade (WM6.1) which includes GPS support however i am unable to connect to a single satellite.
ROM: 3.54.661.1
Radio: 3.42.40
I'm not very good with upgrading s/w on the device in the fear that it will brick the phone. Is there any step by step guide that i can follow to get the GPS working on my device?
Under the Start > Settings > System > External GPS, my GPS Program Port is set to COM4 and the GPS Hardware port is set to NONE. Everytime i change my Hardware port to something (Anything) it seems to revert back to NONE.
I was looking at some posts on here that suggested using DCD's Rom update however i like having some of the options in there that the ROM removes (eg: Office). I've used Holux GPS Viewer 1.5 and turn COM4 on (open) which creates a constant stream of GPGSV and GPGSA attributes in the scroll window towards the bottom however there is no fix on any single satellite.
Are there any fixes that apply directly to GPS while keeping the rest of the phone stock?
Thanks for any help,
Mehrdad
If you have a data plan, you can enable aGPS.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377
If there isn't an ip listed for your carrier, use alltel's.
BTC
I will try that once i get home tonite but is there a way to use GPS and not aGPS?
Pending your carrier hasn't locked it down, and you are running a V3.29+ radio and 6.1 rom, GPS should just work, tho without aGPS it can take forever to get a satellite link.
BTC
Hey buddy,
I used the fix and followed each step of the tutorial. Check the boxes in QPST off and then back on, changed to the Telus (and Alltel) IP and ports, modified the registry keys to what Shadowtech had mentioned and still my device only says "Seeking GPS satellites (0)..."
On my today screen i see the BAF GPS Toggle option and click it so that is switches on but still no luck. (GPS On Seek:0)
I tried using it in every combination with GPS Viewer 1.5 however that too ended up with no results.
I've checked and rechecked the entire process that was documented. Did you have any other suggestions i could try?
If i did decide to update my ROM did you know the best ROM update that would enable my GPS and would i be able to install it even after i've updgraded to 3.54.661.1 (Radio 3.42.40)? As in, is it backward compatible?
Thanks for all your help,
Mehrdad
merrybob said:
Hey buddy,
I used the fix and followed each step of the tutorial. Check the boxes in QPST off and then back on, changed to the Telus (and Alltel) IP and ports, modified the registry keys to what Shadowtech had mentioned and still my device only says "Seeking GPS satellites (0)..."
On my today screen i see the BAF GPS Toggle option and click it so that is switches on but still no luck. (GPS On Seek:0)
I tried using it in every combination with GPS Viewer 1.5 however that too ended up with no results.
I've checked and rechecked the entire process that was documented. Did you have any other suggestions i could try?
If i did decide to update my ROM did you know the best ROM update that would enable my GPS and would i be able to install it even after i've updgraded to 3.54.661.1 (Radio 3.42.40)? As in, is it backward compatible?
Thanks for all your help,
Mehrdad
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Finally! I found this that got it working..
"I was going to suggest the registry fix by setting "EnableGPSSmart" to 1 (from 0).
It's under HKLM -> Software -> HTC -> SUPL AGPS.
You installed the fix that evidently does the same thing, but I think all of the other stuff you did was probably unnecessary! (=
Following the instructions in the first post + the reg fix has worked when I've set it up on three HTC Touch's.
The first post should be updated to include this IMO.
Enjoy your GPS man,
Cheers!"
Sheer stroke of luck and a very good surprise!

Orange UK AGPS settings

I'm trying to get AGPS working on my blackstone and like other people have found if I turn AGPS on the GPS keeps dropping out.
I think this may be because of AGPS settings in the HTC ROM I'm using (HKCSL_WWE_1.19.831.0) having a non Internet routeable server address 10.1.101.63
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"ServerIP"="10.1.101.63"
I'd like to try it with working AGPS settings for Orange UK's AGPS server.
I think I know the server name is "agps.orange.co.uk" but I don't know the port number, has anyone got a phone with a standard Orange UK ROM and could check the settings for me?
The ones I need are:-
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"ServerPort"=
"ServerIP"=
"ServerURL"=
"GPSmode"=
Thanks a lot
Peter
Are you still looking for these settings?
I have a vanilla Touch HD ..
Let me know where to find the settings and I will give them to you.
Hi yes still looking for the settings.
To get them you'll need a mobile registry editor either on the phone or on your PC
Then the settinsg I need are in:-
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Software
HTC
SUPL AGPS
And the actual entries are (not all of them may exist):-
"ServerPort"=
"ServerIP"=
"ServerURL"=
"GPSmode"=
If you can get them for me many thanks
Hey there,
I'm on a standard Orange UK ROM. Mine is as follows:
"ServerPort"=7275
"ServerIP"=10.1.101.63
"ServerURL"= (not there!)
"GPSmode"=2
Hope it helps!
Ah right thanks.
That probably explains why AGPS doesn't work for most people if they enable it makes the GPS drop out.
The settings look like they're internal test ones used at HTC, the IP address 10.1.101.63 is the same as in a stock HTC ROM so can't point to Orange's agps server.
Thanks for checking for me, I'll have to carry on searching I think
Have you tried agps.orange.co.uk port 7275?
Hi, that does look better after a very quick test, TomTom isn't saying "No GPS device" every few seconds with AGPS enabled.
I'm indoors at the moment though, so I'll have to give it a proper test tomorrow when I'm out in the car
Thanks
No, just tried it in the car and it's still dropping out to "No GPS Device" with AGPS enabled, disable AGPS and it's OK again
Looks like AGPS just doesn't work properly
Thanks for all the help anyway
There are several threads where AGPS has been a problem.
A fix is achieved by the receiver, AGPS and QuickFix. In my view AGPS causes conflict where a low cell tower signal is present. Isn't AGPS achieved by a rough triangulation from cell towers?
Disable AGPS with HD Tweak and let upto date QuickFix data do its work just like it did on TTN6 on other devices without problems.
Get your first cold fix outdoors, stationary and with clear sky would be good. This may take a few minutes. Subsequent warm fixes will be much faster.
The HD receiver is not as sensitive as a SirfIII IMHO but it does work fine.
Yes, I agree AGPS just isn't working on the Blackstone, at least for me.
I've only just got the Blackstone to replace a Kaiser and I've noticed the GPS on the Blackstone gets a first fix a lot faster than the Kaiser used to.
On the down side though TomTom 7.910 on the Blackstone seems to suffer from much worse lag than TomTom 7.450 used to on the Kaiser, perhaps it's just that it's driving five times the screen area perhaps.
The "lag" for me is one second. Which is the refresh rate of TomTom Navigator. No significant difference from my Artemis with v6.
No not select too many POIS for display as this effects the redraw time.
Lag often 4-5 seconds here - Possibly all the speed camera POIs in London, where I live
arfster said:
Have you tried agps.orange.co.uk port 7275?
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I have just got it working on orange uk using the following
IP address: 194.51.71.162 - found by pinging agps.orange.co.uk
port: 7275 - looking around the forums, most mobile providers seem to use this port.
i deleted the serverURL key, and my gps mode is set to 2 or 4(this tells it to use cell location and the orange server)
With these settings, my tomtom software first (after about 20 secs) goes to the center of the local orange cell, showing five satellites which are actually the agps "pretend" ones. It then picks up the real satellites and my position moves to the correct gps position. I never had much issue with the position from the standard gps signal, but the altitude reading is now much more accurate, showing the agps is having some effect (no idea why I would need an altitude reading?!?)
Whilst the tomtom software works perfectly, my memory-map software crashes when it tries to load with agps turned on. If another program (ie tomtom) has already initalised the gps, then memory-map also works fine.

No GPS sat lock

I've had the imagio for about 2 weeks not. and can't get the GPS to work. I've tried every reg edit I can't find. Tried useing GPSID.dll rather then GPSID_HTC.dll. I tried installing the GPSModDrivers. Ran QuickGPS. Done Hard resets and half a dozen flashes. Nothing. The only program that works in Verizon's VZ Nav. TomTom, Google maps, Bing never get any sat lock. I'd say it was my phone but my dad's and the floor model at our Verizon store all have the same problems. The guy at Verizon said it was an issue with a lot of them and HTC was working on an updated rom for it. But that could be crap. Any ideas?
You probably have a faulty unit - my GPS always locks pretty quickly.
Agreed. My GPS works flawlessly. I use it all the time with TrackMe.
Never had the first problem with the GPS , works great with Google and Bing maps. Yours Dad's phone must be defective , swap it out for a new one.
Just wondering...
Start/Settings/System/External GPS on Access tab, did you marked
"Manage GPS atomatically (recommended)
If you don't do this, have you tried setting the Com Port Manually? I have a felling that if VZ works that is just a configuration issue.
As a last resource, you could use a terminal program like Token2Shell Mobile (free 30 Trial) to read the Com port "Usually Com4" and 4800 Baud and check the NMEA string coming in, here is a example from mine.
$GPGGA,204838.8,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,1,08,1.20,19.00,M,-2.00,M,,*56
$GPRMC,204838.8,A,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,21.60,268.00,021109,,*27
$GPGLL,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,204838.8,A*22
$GPGSA,A,3,02,04,05,09,10,12,17,27,,,,,2.60,1.20,2.40*08
$GPGSV,3,1,10,12,45,313,30,04,55,028,25,10,31,174,24,02,69,293,21*72
$GPGSV,3,2,10,09,21,243,21,05,24,182,21,17,27,080,20,28,03,143,16*7F
$GPGSV,3,3,10,27,19,237,14,30,11,319,14*7B
The bold is the amount of Satellites, in this case 8
Hope this gave you some ideas, let us know if it works for you...
Sorry for the double post working from device.
Keep in mind that some of the things you may have installed to correct the issue may have negatively affect registry settings, sync your contacts and do a hard reset on the device. And do not set up VZ nav when you bring it up.
Then do this:
Install Google maps
Make Sure your Location Setting is "on" in the phone settings. If it is on then toggle it to "911" hit okay on upper right corner then go back into it and toggle it back on and hit okay.
Soft Reset and let boat up completely
Open Google Maps And make sure USE GPS is not checked.
Click "X" in top corner to let it run in the background
Run Quick GPS and select "Download"
Open Google Maps again and select "USE GPS" make sure you have a clear view of the sky and it should take less than one minute to lock
Sometimes a soft reset is required to get a gps lock.
Actually, It is a known issue with the particular gpsone chipset. It's an issue with location caching with agps, but this phone comes stock with agps disabled. However, I have not heard that many complaints on this forum, of course not everybody uses gps. If you soft reset before you try and use you shouldn't have issues. Trust me this is my third HTC touch series phone with this issue (diamond, touch pro, imagio). With my imagio it suddenly stopped having this issue, wierd. I used to use a program called HTC gps tool on my touch pro that would clear the cache for you without having to soft reset each time you might want to do some searching, not sure if it works with wvga screens.
bastukee said:
Just wondering...
Start/Settings/System/External GPS on Access tab, did you marked
"Manage GPS atomatically (recommended)
If you don't do this, have you tried setting the Com Port Manually? I have a felling that if VZ works that is just a configuration issue.
As a last resource, you could use a terminal program like Token2Shell Mobile (free 30 Trial) to read the Com port "Usually Com4" and 4800 Baud and check the NMEA string coming in, here is a example from mine.
$GPGGA,204838.8,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,1,08,1.20,19.00,M,-2.00,M,,*56
$GPRMC,204838.8,A,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,21.60,268.00,021109,,*27
$GPGLL,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,204838.8,A*22
$GPGSA,A,3,02,04,05,09,10,12,17,27,,,,,2.60,1.20,2.40*08
$GPGSV,3,1,10,12,45,313,30,04,55,028,25,10,31,174,24,02,69,293,21*72
$GPGSV,3,2,10,09,21,243,21,05,24,182,21,17,27,080,20,28,03,143,16*7F
$GPGSV,3,3,10,27,19,237,14,30,11,319,14*7B
The bold is the amount of Satellites, in this case 8
Hope this gave you some ideas, let us know if it works for you...
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I concur if it was a hardware issue VZ nav wouldn't work.
Sweeny Russ:
I being looking for a program to manage the GPS chipset, I use many kinds of GPS devices for work and it would be the first time I see a GPS device I can't program/manage. Gpsone chipset is the GPS on board device? Do you have a link for this HTC GPS program? I wonder if I can actually program with it...worth asking
One of my friends had the same problem as you mentioned. I asked him to do a hard reset and after a HR, the GPS has been working smoothly. Please try a HR!
I have no complain about my Imagio's GPS because it works much more than I expected. I can get 7-8 sattelites fixed in house, near the window where my old phone Touch HD could not fix any sattlelite.
I'm about to try bastukee suggestion. Giakhoa are you saying do a hard reset after a hard reset?
bastukee This is what I got, any ideas?
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,*31
$GPGLL,,,,,,A*11
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,50.00,50.00,50.00*35
bastukee said:
Sweeny Russ:
I being looking for a program to manage the GPS chipset, I use many kinds of GPS devices for work and it would be the first time I see a GPS device I can't program/manage. Gpsone chipset is the GPS on board device? Do you have a link for this HTC GPS program? I wonder if I can actually program with it...worth asking
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Let me know how this pans out. I haven't used this new version but it will allow you to play around with some setting my gps locks instantly so I'm not going to mess with it I just now it works on vga, you might need a screen rotate app to read all settings.
Original Post where I found it is here
Sweeny, Program works nice. it's an easier way to see the data then the program bastukee gave me. But sadly I don't know what half the options do and it still gives me the same date I posted in #12. Thoughts anyone?
That's exactly what you would get when satelites are not being seen, in fact you can't even see a Clock. Once I finish this 3 day trip to India and settle I will try that program and see how my settings look like and post screenies. "I'm a zombie atm"
Thanks for the help. I'm going crazy trying to get this to work.
While bastukee is on his trip, anyone else have any ideas?
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While bastukee is on his trip, anyone else have any ideas?
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be sure ur using com port 4
There's where I got the data that matched the data bastukee showed me. And the one in the settings.
I might be pointing out the obvious but, did you try this outside? After like a minute?

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