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Wifi is flakey at some APs

I have installed and uninstalled a number of firmware/mod combinations on my xv6800 in hopes to get the GPS working. I don't believe that's going to happen (saddly, I feel like there's a conspiracy out there to trick peeps like me into spending weeks on this problem without any positive outcome) so I'm currently focusing on what DOES work with this device.
One thing that's flakey is the wifi. At home I'm running WEP128. It connects sometimes, others it will not. When it does not automatically connect but sees it, it asks for the key each time. What's the deal with that? Entering my long a$$ key each time has made me memorize it, but it's still a serious PITA. I don't have the same issue at most other places - still using WEP128. Doesn't appear to have any issues connecting to open APs. Does have issues connecting to a friend's AP, i that it doesn't even SEE it as available any more, after the initial 3-4 connects.
Thoughts on why this could be happening? Not having the GPS makes me very angry, but then to not have reliable wifi practially makes the device pointless, as I have another phone, my own PED and an actual good camera... and a laptop.
thanks for any helpful thoughts.
Chris

Chris,
I'm assuming from your post that the "XV" indicates you have a Verizon Phone? If so you might look at this link pertaining to GPS
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/
I'm not sure what to tell you about the WiFi. Mine works fine...

iamchrismoran said:
I have installed and uninstalled a number of firmware/mod combinations on my xv6800 in hopes to get the GPS working. I don't believe that's going to happen (saddly, I feel like there's a conspiracy out there to trick peeps like me into spending weeks on this problem without any positive outcome) so I'm currently focusing on what DOES work with this device.
One thing that's flakey is the wifi. At home I'm running WEP128. It connects sometimes, others it will not. When it does not automatically connect but sees it, it asks for the key each time. What's the deal with that? Entering my long a$$ key each time has made me memorize it, but it's still a serious PITA. I don't have the same issue at most other places - still using WEP128. Doesn't appear to have any issues connecting to open APs. Does have issues connecting to a friend's AP, i that it doesn't even SEE it as available any more, after the initial 3-4 connects.
Thoughts on why this could be happening? Not having the GPS makes me very angry, but then to not have reliable wifi practially makes the device pointless, as I have another phone, my own PED and an actual good camera... and a laptop.
thanks for any helpful thoughts.
Chris
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I have the verizon Titan and just use mac filtering on my wireless router. The encryption slows it down to much for me and basically need the same encryption scheme on both sides to get it to work properly. I don't do anything that it needs to be encrypted and the mac filtering keeps the neighbors out as well.

timm9 said:
Chris,
I'm assuming from your post that the "XV" indicates you have a Verizon Phone? If so you might look at this link pertaining to GPS
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/
I'm not sure what to tell you about the WiFi. Mine works fine...
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Wow, of all the tuts and instructions I've tried and read, that one has never crossed my screen - and I have tried at least 4-5 different ones. The phone's already unlocked and has a custom rom on it. I didn't get an impression either way if this method will reset the device/settings/files/etc in it again. I guess I could try it out. Thanks.
I'm getting to the point of just wanting to pay someone to get teh GPS working on it.
The Wifi issue is just weird and flakey. No rhyme or reason I can see.
Chris

jambrose said:
I have the verizon Titan and just use mac filtering on my wireless router. The encryption slows it down to much for me and basically need the same encryption scheme on both sides to get it to work properly. I don't do anything that it needs to be encrypted and the mac filtering keeps the neighbors out as well.
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I think of doing that often... but well... I don't have a but. WEP is hackable, but feels secure enough , considering I have a bunch of secure APs in my neighborhood... some obscurity helps as well.
I know that sometimes if I restart my AP (linksys wrt54g) the xv6800 will just find it and connect on it's own.
Chris

There is absolutely no reason why gps should not work on your device. In fact in this forum we really don't even discuss it too much anymore because it's really just an understood thing to be working. If you are on verizon use the latest alltel radio 3.42.xx I can't remember exactly, load dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4 and start from there. Wifi on these roms have power saving features make sure if you are using wifi that you have strength up to full. Also, all the moguls that I have had, DO NOT COUNT ON THEM AUTOMATICALLY FINDING ACCESS POINTS, simply go to start->settings->connections "view all available access points" and select the one you want to use. I have heard cases of gps having trouble locking if wifi is on so make sure the switch is off and vise versa. Do the verizon qpst and registry settings change. On verizon you should have a lock within 30 seconds everytime if you are within the continental US. Good luck and take your time.

Sweeny Russ said:
There is absolutely no reason why gps should not work on your device. In fact in this forum we really don't even discuss it too much anymore because it's really just an understood thing to be working.
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Haha... yeah, that's what's so frustrating. So many people getting it to work and me not. I'm no dolt. I follow directions quite well.
If you are on verizon use the latest alltel radio 3.42.xx I can't remember exactly, load dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4 and start from there. Wifi on these roms have power saving features make sure if you are using wifi that you have strength up to full. Also, all the moguls that I have had, DO NOT COUNT ON THEM AUTOMATICALLY FINDING ACCESS POINTS, simply go to start->settings->connections "view all available access points" and select the
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I have 3.42.something new within the last two months. My first attempt was with the DCD. Nada.
As for finding available access points, at my friend's place, it just shows it listed as unavailable. At home, it will SEE it and even attempt to connect, but often fails, except for those random times when it will connect.
one you want to use. I have heard cases of gps having trouble locking if wifi is on so make sure the switch is off and vise versa. Do the verizon qpst and registry settings change. On verizon you should have a lock within 30 seconds everytime if you are within the continental US. Good luck and take your time.
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Hm... will it maintain the lock with the wifi turned back on afterward? The whole point is to be able to use gmaps with the GPS. I can install other s/w that has it's own maps as well, bypassing the need for the wifi, but for starters, getting GPS working first is important.
It's a verizon phone, but I don't have service turned on yet. I'm not going to switch my number over until I'm happy with how it's set up. I do not intend on using a data plan - too expensive, so wifi when in range and other gps s/w when I'm not will be used.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I have taken some serious time with this. The nice thing is that I don't have to rush, so I've tried MANY different things from the forums and even the PPCgeeks IRC channel. If I practice any more patience, I'll be sleeping.
Chris

iamchrismoran said:
Wow, of all the tuts and instructions I've tried and read, that one has never crossed my screen - and I have tried at least 4-5 different ones. The phone's already unlocked and has a custom rom on it. I didn't get an impression either way if this method will reset the device/settings/files/etc in it again. I guess I could try it out. Thanks.
I'm getting to the point of just wanting to pay someone to get teh GPS working on it.
The Wifi issue is just weird and flakey. No rhyme or reason I can see.
Chris
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That phonenews article was VERY helpful in getting me started, but:
It is ancient. Those old roms have problem. Use the newest DCD roms and radios found here. (thanks DCD and everyone)
ALSO, on the GPS.
If you EVER, EVER, installed the new Verizon MR1 upgrade, the GPS is locked. No worky no more..... But, simply find the older Verizon rom, it can be found. Downgrade to it and run it. Then go straight to the DCD rom/radio.

worwig said:
That phonenews article was VERY helpful in getting me started, but:
It is ancient. Those old roms have problem. Use the newest DCD roms and radios found here. (thanks DCD and everyone)
ALSO, on the GPS.
If you EVER, EVER, installed the new Verizon MR1 upgrade, the GPS is locked. No worky no more..... But, simply find the older Verizon rom, it can be found. Downgrade to it and run it. Then go straight to the DCD rom/radio.
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I did try the MR1 upgrade based aGPS hack, but I then realized that aGPS only matters if you've got a working GPS at all. Anyway, I then downgraded again and started over from scratch. I got my phone in September and did my series of hacks/upgrades/unlocks over the course of two weeks or nightly tries and retries. It's nice to hear someone say it WILL work, but Murphy's Law is working overtime with me on this one.

It is my understanding that if you don't have internet access than gps will not just not work on mogul. The gps one chip I believe is strictly an AGPS chip and cannot lock without using agps. However I guess some people have done it and use it, although even if you get it to work the lock will take forever. The mogul really needs that emphemeris data from the north american gps servers to function correctly. I didn't realize these were your terms.

Sweeny Russ said:
It is my understanding that if you don't have internet access than gps will not just not work on mogul. The gps one chip I believe is strictly an AGPS chip and cannot lock without using agps. However I guess some people have done it and use it, although even if you get it to work the lock will take forever. The mogul really needs that emphemeris data from the north american gps servers to function correctly. I didn't realize these were your terms.
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I've never seen it written anywhere that one would be required to have a data connection with the service provider to get a GPS lock. Seems ridiculous to me. If I wanted to pay for a data connection, then why the heck not just pay for the VZ Navigator access??
I've never seen aGPS as a requirement either. If all the tuts were about aGPS, I'd see that having that data connection was important. Boy, I sure could use a definitive on this. If I KNOW for fact that GPS just doesn't work without a data connection, I'd have to suck it up and get an external bluetooth GPS device if I care enough. I have believed however all along that the whole point was to access GPS hardware without incurring data charges.
thanks,
Chris

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47602
its not the mogul, but same idea.

iamchrismoran said:
I did try the MR1 upgrade based aGPS hack, but I then realized that aGPS only matters if you've got a working GPS at all. Anyway, I then downgraded again and started over from scratch. I got my phone in September and did my series of hacks/upgrades/unlocks over the course of two weeks or nightly tries and retries. It's nice to hear someone say it WILL work, but Murphy's Law is working overtime with me on this one.
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Also, not trying to undermind you, but why did you aquire the mogul if you weren't planning on using internet access? I mean you loose live search, google maps, pic and video messaging, skyfire, ie, youtube, and pretty much everything that makes a mogul a mogul. If you bought it for the soul purpose of using as a gps device you definitely bought the wrong device.

Sweeny Russ said:
Also, not trying to undermind you, but why did you aquire the mogul if you weren't planning on using internet access? I mean you loose live search, google maps, pic and video messaging, skyfire, ie, youtube, and pretty much everything that makes a mogul a mogul. If you bought it for the soul purpose of using as a gps device you definitely bought the wrong device.
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TOTALLY reasonable question.
I will use the phone when I have it set how I like it.
I got it so I could have a reasonably convenient way to freely check my email and surf when in wifi range without needing to lug my laptop around with me. I got a good price on it, much cheaper than an actual laptop.
Nice sized screen for when I want to actually watch a ripped movie or TV show and the option to install other software on a whim to have with me is just great. I got a ppc that can be a phone essentially. I'm not a phone person, too cheap to pay for a text plan, but wifi is key. The ability to open this phone up for GPS use was a major factor in picking it from lots of research before diving in.

Wifi will not activate

After flashing with a new ROM etc..
When I go into communications, and tap on wifi.....it turns on for a sec and then turns back off. Any suggestions?
Here is what I have done so far.....
Started with: Radio v. 1.39.00, ROM V. 2.13.656.2, Bootloader 1.2
Went to bootloader 2.40(via Hard-SPL-MF.exe), Scrosler's Titan ROM 3.26 w/touchflow. and then Radio 3.42.30.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions or solutions.
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upsett3r said:
After flashing with a new ROM etc..
When I go into communications, and tap on wifi.....it turns on for a sec and then turns back off. Any suggestions?
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Try the hardware switch on the side of the unit. The software switch was never able to work under most ROMs that I have ever used.

I toggled that (WiFi switch), and it does the same thing for me.

Should I try another ROM or radio version? I don't want to do a bunch of flashing.......anyone know a good firmware version (and radio v.) with everything working and ready to go in terms of functionality? I don't mind putting all the carrier info in etc, just want all the radios to work afterwards (wifi, eV(cellular data), cell, bluetooth, IR)

Never heard of the problem. I say reflash because something happened.

Changed the battery power option under wireless to best performance.....everything works now

That's odd behavior. Post if it happens again.
upsett3r said:
Changed the battery power option under wireless to best performance.....everything works now
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When I use the ppckitchen my wifi refueses to work. I'm actually about to reflash it right now to DCD to see if it fixes it

Same Problem Here
The Switch seems to be malfunctioning...WHen I turn it off, it turns on the software for a second, then shuts off. WHen I turn it in the same thing happens. Really weird.
THis happened BOTH TIMES i reloaded the ROM.

im using the Kaiser Comm Manager(10 Buttons), and on it it always appears that the wifi is turned off, but functions fine with the switch

upsett3r said:
After flashing with a new ROM etc..
When I go into communications, and tap on wifi.....it turns on for a sec and then turns back off. Any suggestions?
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i have the exact same problem since a couple of month and i cant seem to find a fix for that. I dont even know if the problem is software on hardware related.
i have used dcd 3.2.6 and 4.1.2
and im currently running ryan 2.0 i think wm6.1
maybe i should try wm 6.5
the only thing i know is that i would REALLY like my wifi to work :'(

lebulbe said:
i have the exact same problem since a couple of month and i cant seem to find a fix for that. I dont even know if the problem is software on hardware related.
i have used dcd 3.2.6 and 4.1.2
and im currently running ryan 2.0 i think wm6.1
maybe i should try wm 6.5
the only thing i know is that i would REALLY like my wifi to work :'(
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i am using the ryan 2.0 wm6.1 and my wifi does not work either, didnt work in wm6.5 and no available memory in 6.5 either so save your time.
my phone was a mix of 2 broken moguls, the only thing i dont have working is vibrate and wifi

cturnbull802 said:
i am using the ryan 2.0 wm6.1 and my wifi does not work either, didnt work in wm6.5 and no available memory in 6.5 either so save your time.
my phone was a mix of 2 broken moguls, the only thing i dont have working is vibrate and wifi
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DO you see a MAC address in the WLAN advanced settings?
If not, you just need to write a new MAC address and your WIFI will work, or so I have heard.
so... how do we enter in a MAC address if it is missing?
Anyone?

guys
theres no fix take it to sprint and they will replace it happen to me twice

Enabling GPS on US Cellular Question

Hi Everyone...
I got my son a US Cellular PPC6800 (Titan)... It has on it now :
Rom Version 2.17.573.0
Rom Date 7/1/08
Radio 1.69.00
Hardware Version 0003
PRI 1.31_027
After some reading here, it seems I need a diffrent radio to get the GPS to work... my issue is I spent all day yesterday setting up the phone for my son, just how he would like it... I would hate to have to re-do it all just ot enable the GPS... Could I just update the radio and keep the rest just how it is? or wouldnt; that work... I don;t even need the phone itself to work as a phone as I will be using it as a skype phone... I just need the WiFi, GPS, and bluetooth... Thank you in advance for you advice

No your rom or os is not compatible with a gps radio. You would have to install a custom rom and then a compatible gps radio to enable it. You will lose all settings and programs when do this change.

You'll have to flash a new radio and then a new rom, the one you currently have will have to be overwritten.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24511
That guide should help you out. I have some more info here that you may find useful as well.
http://sites.google.com/site/victorbush/htc-6800-1
Hope this helps!

Thanks for your advice everyone... I got a new radio (3.35.04) and rom (RMcarrierlessTitanV1.1Light).. I was most like the standard 6.1 stockI was used to and had known good software for.. After doing LOTS of reading here, there, and everywhere today I was able to get the GPS to work as well with TomTom... Learning qPST was nice though.. I was easily able to change the banner to say "Skype" instead of US Cellular,Sprint, or any other carrier.. I thought that would be a nice touch as this will only be used as a Skype phone anyways...
The only other issue I am having, is when justhte phone is turned off it is reporting it isin airplane mode in certian programs (TomTom for example) and I have to turn on the phones radio to get it to work... Any suggestions? I am not putting it in aitplane mode.. and still have WiFi on at that point.. (although turning hte phone off sometimes effects that too it seems).. I am trying to get it to work well with the phone off to save battery as WiFi will be on most of the time it is in use... Thanks in advance..

[Q] rooted slide with no wifi

I am having some major issues with the wifi on my slide. When I have the rooted software installed. I have tried both the stock cynogen 6.0.0 rom and the teamfenix version but still cannot get the wifi to work on my home network. I haven't found any other roms to try though.
fyi:
Works fine on stock rom
home network is open with no mac filtering or anything like that.
I also have heard that flashing the radio might help but I thought that was separate from the wifi and the antenna works fine. I also have no issues with a data connection through the network.
Also if someone could recommend a way of transferring the phone program from the sense rom to the root rom that would be great. (I like the way it gives you the number it thinks you are about to dial, makes calls more fluid actions)
So... ideas?

xan griegor said:
I am having some major issues with the wifi on my slide. When I have the rooted software installed. I have tried both the stock cynogen 6.0.0 rom and the teamfenix version but still cannot get the wifi to work on my home network. I haven't found any other roms to try though.
fyi:
Works fine on stock rom
home network is open with no mac filtering or anything like that.
I also have heard that flashing the radio might help but I thought that was separate from the wifi and the antenna works fine. I also have no issues with a data connection through the network.
Also if someone could recommend a way of transferring the phone program from the sense rom to the root rom that would be great. (I like the way it gives you the number it thinks you are about to dial, makes calls more fluid actions)
So... ideas?
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A few: The latest known radio for the slide is 7.09.35.10. If you have that you don't need to reflash it. CM 6.0 has a known issue with the wifi that you can fix by turning on bluetooth. You don't have to have bluetooth connect to anything, just have it on. I don't know why that works but it does. Or you can flash the latest nightly for the slide. You can find it through ROM Manager, but you'll need the paid version to do that, which is totally worth it, or find it in the cyanogenmod forum. However, if you go ahead and flash the nightly, beware that things may or may not work (although the last several I've run have been damn stable) and DO NOT POST BUGS IN THE BUG TRACKER!
Also, on a side note, bluetooth in call audio does not work. Meaning you can not talk on the phone through bluetooth. Stereo bluetooth works great though, so you can listen to music no problem.

heybobitsme said:
Also, on a side note, bluetooth in call audio does not work. Meaning you can not talk on the phone through bluetooth. Stereo bluetooth works great though, so you can listen to music no problem.
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Thanks for the heads-up on that, I just thought my bluetooth was being retarded.

heybobitsme said:
A few: The latest known radio for the slide is 7.09.35.10. If you have that you don't need to reflash it.
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How do I check what radio version I have?

xan griegor said:
How do I check what radio version I have?
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If on CM6: Menu>settings>about phone then look at the baseband version. It's the last set of numbers. If on stock ROM it's the same sequence except after you go into "about phone" you need to go into "software information".
Sent from my Rooted Slide

Where can I find the radio update? Can't find it on the HTC website or on here.
edit: actually - it seems to be working fine now for some screwed up reason. My roms seem to do that... if my phone is in a good mood when I do my nandroid restore, then it works even better than before (hey look that rymes). If not, then it says "F*** off and die, I'm not giving you internet you fascist SoB.". As you may understand my phone has major mood swings... I think it gets PMS.

The CM6 thread has a link to the latest radio I believe. Also, something that worked for me is under the WiFi Settings menu, press Menu > Advanced, and change Regulatory Channels to 14. I saw that posted in one of the CM65 threads and it worked for me.

I found something interesting out about my phone. Apparently those moods I talked about are just the wipe not working properly. If I wipe it 3-5 time beforehand everything seems to work better.
I can even get golden sun working on the gameboid which I had thought was too unstable to work (just that one game though not the whole program).
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

I take that back about golden sun... stupid unstable ass game......
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[Q] Flashing radio to 2.3 on Mt4g

Hey all,
I am totally new to rooting and I just rooted my Mytouch 4g to the virtuous fusion 1.1.8 rom. Everything works great except for wifi and wifi calling. My wifi keeps dropping. Ive read that I may have to flash the radio to 2.3 but I do not know how to do this and I cannot find the answer anywhere. I've tried to look around and I've googled it. I still come up with nothing. Please help!
Thanks!!!

Follow this guide. It gives you everything you need to know. For Virtuous Fusion, I would try radio version 26.09.04.26 since that's what the dev recommends. If you need help setting up ADB (very easy, takes 5 mins), see this thread.

Thanks
Thanks, I've done everything needed and it went thru successfully. The wifi still isn't steady. Do you recommending trying all of the radios? I dont mean to sound like a total noob but I am as far as this stuff goes. Thanks!

mzhmiah said:
Thanks, I've done everything needed and it went thru successfully. The wifi still isn't steady. Do you recommending trying all of the radios? I dont mean to sound like a total noob but I am as far as this stuff goes. Thanks!
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I believe VF has some WiFi issues, so the problem probably isn't the radio. Several other users have reported issues with VF not holding connection to WiFi even when very close to the router. I find I have to restart my phone once a day just to get WiFi to connect. Other users have been said WiFi works fine on other ROMs while on the same radio. That being said, it can't hurt to try the other new radio (26.08.04.30), although my guess is it won't fix your WiFi problem.