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Can i edit an existing rom?

Firstly apologies if this has already been asked in another thread, if so please point me in the right direction. However could anybody tell me if there is a way to edit an exisiting rom and remove programs and operator customisations? In other words to break it down into the basic components before cooking it? Any help would be appreciated. p.s im trying to edit a wm5 rom, and cant find a vanilla\clean one anywhere
Thanks
Gumibear

Yes.
That's what people are talking about when you see threads with the words "cook" and "kitchen". A kitchen ROM is one that has been extracted into several folders and usually also comes with the tools you need to rebuild it so you can flash it. You "cook" your own ROM by customizing it to your liking - removing what you don't want, adding what you do. Removing applications is as simple as deleting the folder for the app. There are lots of tutorials out there. Look for sticky threads in the Upgrading or Windows Mobile 6 sections with the words "kitchen" in it and you should be able to find everything you need.
For editing an existing ROM, you will probably need something like Hypercore. It has tools to dump an existing ROM into a workable kitchen. It has batch files that almost completely automate the process and makes it very easy to do. I highly recommend it.

Installing files on hard reset

Hello everyone,
As the touch cruise does not have an extended rom is there a way for it to install a program when i had reset. Can I decompile the original ROM, add to it the programs i want to install on hard reset and then recompile it for flashing
Thanks

parf said:
Hello everyone,
As the touch cruise does not have an extended rom is there a way for it to install a program when i had reset. Can I decompile the original ROM, add to it the programs i want to install on hard reset and then recompile it for flashing
Thanks
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You gotta check the UC thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337

Cheers for the reply.
I had a look at the thread but as far as I could gather that shows you how to load software from the storage card. The software i have is security software so it needs to be installed on the device.

Does anyone know of a program to open .nb files. I tried winimage as it opened the extendROM.nb of my P3300 but it wont open windows.nb of a polaris rom.

I recommend using sashimi autoinstaller. It is very easy to use in order to load xml, reg, cab, exe...and files to root or storage card. Just pull files to the right directories. Of course you can combine with mortscript, UC...
you can not find the software here (sashimi was banned, do not why) but you can google it.

cruiserrr said:
I recommend using sashimi autoinstaller. It is very easy to use in order to load xml, reg, cab, exe...and files to root or storage card. Just pull files to the right directories. Of course you can combine with mortscript, UC...
you can not find the software here (sashimi was banned, do not why) but you can google it.
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sashimi wasn't banned... the author decided to set up shop somewhere else.
www.winmo-experts.com has the latest version

Oh, my mistake then. When I look at his posts, below the nickname says banned and many of the post were deleted.
Anyway is a great software !

Dump a custom ROM

Is it possibile? I heared that custom ROM are protected...is it?
So it's not possible to havea dump of a custom ROM starting from a nbh file?

modules are protected, you cant use them. But you can use anything else. Look for HTC ROM Image editor. That will be the easiest way to extract files from a cooked ROM.

I tried just now...after loading the nbh file...nothing...it seems to be nothing, even with a not cooked ROM (a stock one)

You tried what?
Protection depends on the cooking method. ROMs built with old tools could be dumped no problem, but ROMs cooked with most new tools can not be fully dumped to a rebuildable state. The real question is, what exactly are you trying to get from the dump? If you just want a few files, that should be easy enough. If you want complete packages, that's trickier.

I tried to use HTC ROM Image editor, but it seems not work...
I need a complete dump because I'm tired to reinstall everytime my favorite apps and settings after a reset, so I would like to remove programs I do not use and add my favorite ones!

The ROM editor should work with any ROM for HTC devices. I think you are out of luck with getting a full dump from a custom. If I were you, I would just learn to cook your own.

Eheh...may I could be able to do a very mine ROM, but for some features...mmm...too much time to learn too much things...
Lazy me!!!

Talk to your rom chef, and see if they will share their kitchen for personal use. Which rom is it?

Da_G put together a kitchen a while ago called Dump Kitchen (I think). There's a thread in the Raphael rom forum. It lets you dump and rebuild roms, and i you know what you're doing, it's pretty easy to add apps and a little trickier to remove them (might as well just cook your own at that point). Just search for it; I think you can re-cook roms built with newer tools.

Farmer Ted said:
Da_G put together a kitchen a while ago called Dump Kitchen (I think). There's a thread in the Raphael rom forum. It lets you dump and rebuild roms, and i you know what you're doing, it's pretty easy to add apps and a little trickier to remove them (might as well just cook your own at that point). Just search for it; I think you can re-cook roms built with newer tools.
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I doubt you would be able to use the modules, but I could be wrong.

Here's the link. I'm pretty sure it works with newer roms.

The bottom line is that any rom built with platformrebuilder (EVK etc) cannot be dumped into complete packages. Platformrebuilder deletes the dsm files which associates the files into packages and it also deletes the rgu/reg files which are the registry entries for each package. Not to mention it also deletes the last s00? file in modules making modules impossible to rebuild. According to bepe the only function of the last s00? file in a module is to make it rebuildable so it's practically useless to the module.
Bepe designed platformrebuilder this way not to make roms "protected", but to save space in the rom and increase module speed (by decreasing module size). There's no way around it.
Edit: it appears the tool Farmer Ted posted is used to dump a rom, add files/reg entries to it, then rebuild a flashable nbh.

So it means...it's impossibile to do what I need...yuhuuu...

zat81 said:
So it means...it's impossibile to do what I need...yuhuuu...
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Just try the micro-kitchen. You can dump roms, but all you get is the raw dump. Removing apps will be tricky-you will need to know all the files that have to be pulled out. But, it's pretty easy to edit .hv files, so you can remove reg keys or change them however you wish. You can also add anything you want, it's not that hard to do.

I think I'm going to start learning something usefull..."cook for dummies"...eheh...I've read some guide, tutorials and...maybe...could be not so difficult as I thought...I've just to start from a good base kitchen!

A good place to start....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669414
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I think I'm going to start learning something usefull..."cook for dummies"...eheh...I've read some guide, tutorials and...maybe...could be not so difficult as I thought...I've just to start from a good base kitchen!
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zat81 said:
So it means...it's impossibile to do what I need...yuhuuu...
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Yes thats what we are trying to tell you..lol

yep in newer Kitchens roms and dumps.. there isnt a way to make what you want... you must to talk to your chef and ask him for special rom for you with that info... and or apps i didi many of them to ppl that like sthe version... but sometimes vanilla or with PIM info... if he sahres with you the kitchen... you will be so lucky, just load the rom and deselect the apps you dont want then add yours and your info, but that you must to learn how... to add that... you must to learn and read is not so simple

Just a small note to add to this:
The last S00X section in a module is the .CRELOC section. This is used to relocate the module on-device (not used to relocate the module on the PC, in the kitchen, where we do it prior to flashing)
Not having the last s00x means that you wouldn't be able to imageupdate that ROM (because the on-device read/write IMGFS driver would not be able to re-base the module since .CRELOC is missing)
But you can certainly still re-base that module on the PC side prior to rebuilding a ROM. So that function in itself won't preclude you from porting modules from one device to another

Dumping a Rom with the Vistang-Kitchen works for beginners in cooking very simple:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6019219&postcount=499

Learning to cook a rom

I've been reading up on cooking ROM's and with the help of leeston i managed to create a basic ROM earlier in the week. After searching for guides / tutorials on this stuff im really not that much the wiser, i cant seem to find anything that explains it well enough, there always missing details. The actual cooking process seems fairly straightforward but its those extra bits im missing ie
how do i add my own packages - am i right in just copying them to the SYS folder or is there more to it ?
how do i edit the registry - I know how to edit the registry once the ROM is loaded onto my phone but how do i do it from the ROM without the phone ?
how do i add things to the start menu - When i add packages to the SYS folder and load the ROM into my phone the shortcuts dont seem to be in my start menu
how do i add sense - i've loaded the packages but it never starts and theres no sense option in today settings
im new to this so as you'd imagine the questions i have are endless ...
Im sure most of this info is on XDA already somewhere but i just cant find it, maybe im searching for the wrong term or something.
Any help from the chef's would be great, perhaps you could provide links to tutorials / info you've used when learning to cook. Im sure this stuff would be useful to everyone and may even encourage more to have a go at cooking .

drkdeath5000 said:
1.how do i add my own packages - am i right in just copying them to the SYS folder or is there more to it ?
2.how do i edit the registry - I know how to edit the registry once the ROM is loaded onto my phone but how do i do it from the ROM without the phone ?
3.how do i add things to the start menu - When i add packages to the SYS folder and load the ROM into my phone the shortcuts dont seem to be in my start menu
4.how do i add sense - i've loaded the packages but it never starts and theres no sense option in today settings
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I am still new to cooking but I'll tell you what i believe to be correct.
1.Yes. To add a package to a rom you put the package into the SYS folder.
However be aware that the kitchen used for the TG01 cannot handle EXT (visual) packages, only OEM (old) packages can be used. Use Totalfires package converter to convert between the 2 types.
The above info is not strictly true but is what you need to know when cooking for the TG and i don't have the time or knowledge to write a complete tutorial.
2. Editing the registry is all to do with .RGU files, you can create a package with a new one in or edit the existing ones within the packages in the SYS folder. You can edit them with notepad but i suggest using Notepad2.
Once you open an .RGU file you should recognize the reg key text in the file and edit it accordingly. As far as i am aware the file MUST have REGEDIT4 in the first line and an empty line at the bottom in order to work. Another way is to edit the regkey on your device then export the regkey using resco or something similar, then rename the resulting file from .reg to .rgu then open it in note pad and copy and paste it into another packages .rgu file, or create a custom package for that .rgu file.
The registry can also be modified using cab files during autorun, but this can be a little messy as the cab can be uninstalled by the end user causing problems.
3. To do this you need to edit the initflashs.txt file within the . This can be done manually or with one of the many package tools available on this site. The one i use is below, it does the hardwork for you, you click a few options and it edits the required files as needed.
4. Sense is a funny one. You should just need to add all the required packages to the SYS folder and away it goes. Unfortunately this is rarely the case. It should just a case of making sure all the sense packages are there, including its many dependencies. Sense is one of my weaker areas so maybe some one else has better advice.
Hope this is useful.

do you have a loooong far way, but read the forumposts an try, try and shortPin and try. that was my way, or is my way. i have don´t helping, all found with google and in xda forum.
unfortunately, my English knowledge is terrible. otherwise I would write more.
best to dump a officiels ROM or miROM5 , then you have an example
related post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750261
PC Software Reg-editor
http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/index.php?id=1〈=en
CAB to OEM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3942000&postcount=1
EXT to OEM
http://www.ppckitchen.org/forums/re...e666.ppckitchen.org/Tools/EXT%20to%20PPCk.exe
All folder to cooking need a .dsm (and/or) .rgu file
RGU name Generator (such as Reg- file) , dsm become automatically
http://www.famkruithof.net/uuid/uuidgen (Fetch UUIDs of another type to Version 4)
do you have a loooong far way!
... Or make a good donation to nokser or ffboy, they teach you

Hi my friend, I have a problem to cook a ROM with cab which required a reboot or witch have a information message ( SWYPE or GPSMOdDriver for example)
Do you know a solution for this please?
Thanks in advance.

Thanks for the info leeston and miro ;-). I havent had time to try it yet but will be over weekend and im almost sure now i know where to find the registry files ill be able to cook something decent up since that was my main problem. Thanks again for the help.
EVEALEX62 said:
Hi my friend, I have a problem to cook a ROM with cab which required a reboot or witch have a information message ( SWYPE or GPSMOdDriver for example)
Do you know a solution for this please?
Thanks in advance.
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I may be wrong but when the cab files are first installed doesnt it automatically reboot ? If not you can always do a manual reboot ;-).

I've tried everything to get sense working but im just having no luck ... copied the packages to the sys folder, flashes fine, boots fine but no sense and now theres no setting shortcut in the start menu ?
Could i ask for the exact procedure for installing sense please ? Im getting my packages from here but replacing the 2017 home with 2016. Could i perhaps be missing something ?
Thanks again

drkdeath5000 said:
I may be wrong but when the cab files are first installed doesnt it automatically reboot ? If not you can always do a manual reboot ;-).
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I have try to delete the line "Reboot" after autocabinstall but nothing change the phone always reboot ... I think the only thing is to do OEM package...
I have test with many cabs but nothing works same as you with Sense ...
Have you found solutions ?

EVEALEX62 said:
Hi my friend, I have a problem to cook a ROM with cab which required a reboot or witch have a information message ( SWYPE or GPSMOdDriver for example)
Do you know a solution for this please?
Thanks in advance.
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The solutoin is to use autorun instead of cabinstl, you can then write a custom script to handle the input required by the cab.
However this is above my head, and i couldn't get autorun to work. FFBOY knows how but i doubt you will get his help as he doesn't seem to check any threads other than his own rom threads, and if he does his responces are few and far between.

drkdeath5000 said:
I've tried everything to get sense working but im just having no luck ... copied the packages to the sys folder, flashes fine, boots fine but no sense and now theres no setting shortcut in the start menu ?
Could i ask for the exact procedure for installing sense please ? Im getting my packages from here but replacing the 2017 home with 2016. Could i perhaps be missing something ?
Thanks again
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Those are the packages i used and they work so it's not the packages, but i cheated and dumped a sense rom then modified it. I don't have time to try and work out how to do it properly unfortunatley.

leeston2379 said:
Those are the packages i used and they work so it's not the packages, but i cheated and dumped a sense rom then modified it. I don't have time to try and work out how to do it properly unfortunatley.
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Well atleast i know the packages are fine, i was starting to wonder if that was the problem . Theres some satisfaction in doing it yourself but like miro said i think its just too much for me, ill give it another go later in the week and if that fails ill just dump a sense rom like you did ... if there was just a tutorial on installing sense packages etc id be fine, with sense being so popular you'd think there to be loads of tuts.

[Q] [PROBLEM][HERMES-TYTN]Default.hv cooked ROM

Hi,
I have a really strange problem.
I have two HTC HERMES, one good that I use and a second that I use only fot test purposes because it's not in good conditions.
I cook ROMs with "ROMDonalds Kitchen" and I have neved had any problem.
Since yesterday, every new ROM I cook, I have this problem:
if I don't edit "default.hv" the cooked ROM goes well in both my HERMES, but if I edit it, the ROM can only be loaded on the second HERMES (the one not in good conditions).
In the other HERMES after flashing, when I make the reset or even the hard-reset, the ROM begins to boot but then stops after the first splash-screen and the screen becames white.
I always flash from SD (hermimg.nbh).
What can be the problem?
Can be a problem of the good HERMES of the two I have?
Can be a difference in hardware between the good HERMES, even if they are identical from outside?
Many thanks !

Hi,
I don't understand why you need to edit default.hv but probably you have your reason.
It's better to leave it untouched to my opinion.
To edit the registry you can edit the .rgu in the specific package or create
a new package with the new registry overwriting the first package registry.
The second suggestion you can keep your tweaks in every rom you cook and switch the stock packages more easy.
What you are writing is indeed weird but this way you avoid errors in the .hv files.
Edit; btw, because Hermes is a pretty old device I'm asuming the kitchen you use is still using .rgu instead of .reg in the packages, latest kitchens mostly use .reg
.rgu and .reg files are same and containing the registry.
Grtz,
Laurentius26

yeah its true, what do you change in the d.hv? maybe you can tell us, what about to use another kitchen? or do your changes in app.reg ext pkgs or in oem packages to void edit it

I edit .hv files when I add or remove programs from the ROM.
I've tried also Ervius kitchen but when I try to dump my ROMs It gives me some errors...the only kitchen I was able to use is RomDonald's..
Can You suggest me another good one?
Thanks

Airxtreme's Oskitchen or Barin's OSbuilder, they are both in Chef Central here.
You don't need to edit .hv files as when you remove the package all registry of that package will be gone too.
eryunt said:
I edit .hv files when I add or remove programs from the ROM.
I've tried also Ervius kitchen but when I try to dump my ROMs It gives me some errors...the only kitchen I was able to use is RomDonald's..
Can You suggest me another good one?
Thanks
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I dont think ROMDonalds processes rgu files. If I remember correct, you have edit the hive files to use that kitchen.

Wow, that's gotta be a huge pain in the butt.

ai6908 said:
I dont think ROMDonalds processes rgu files. If I remember correct, you have edit the hive files to use that kitchen.
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Yes, It is correct.
But the strange thing is that only one of the two Hermes I have, accepts the ROM after I edit the .hv files...
The question is:
Is there a separate memory where the hive is stored, and can this memory be faulty in one of my Hermes?

eryunt said:
...Is there a separate memory where the hive is stored, and can this memory be faulty in one of my Hermes?...
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If you mean the fixed address - the answer is No. *.hv are files and files do not have the fixed address.

I've tried also Ervius Visual Kichen, but when I dump my ROM It gives me these two errors:
1- "Xipkernel's DSM not found! I'll create new...Maybe protected XIP (not portable !!!)"
2- "Boo.rgu in xip not found!Create new...But maybe ROM will be NON BOOTABLE !!!)"
What's wrong?
Thanks for all the answers You provide !
XDA, really a great Community !!!

Hi,
I don't know what you are doing to setup Ervius?
Are you importing a new stock rom into the kitchen?
The errors you can check:
Ervius kitchen/Rom/Shared/'Sys build'/MSXipkernel/
boot.rgu and the .dsm should be there.
Without boot.rgu and the dsm the rom won't boot.
Are all your desktop system files unhidden and vissible?
eryunt said:
I've tried also Ervius Visual Kichen, but when I dump my ROM It gives me these two errors:
1- "Xipkernel's DSM not found! I'll create new...Maybe protected XIP (not portable !!!)"
2- "Boo.rgu in xip not found!Create new...But maybe ROM will be NON BOOTABLE !!!)"
What's wrong?
Thanks for all the answers You provide !
XDA, really a great Community !!!
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The visualization of hidden files is active in my PC, and I am trying to import a NON STOCK ROM to add or remove packages.
Ervius kithchen gives me the errors I described, and also OSKitchen gives me errors..
Can these kitchens import only STOCK ROMs?
I used ROMDonald's kitchen because It was able to edit a ROM that was already cooked...but the editing of .hv files is wrong...

I advise you to use a stock rom as you can test if everything is working ok.
After this you can do your modifications.
I know it's a bit of work but the advantage is to use a new kitchen which is much more configurable.
Editing .hv files isn't that good, but we talked about that already.
Another tip, I always zip my kitchen after I know a configuration is working and I flashed the rom succsesvol, before I continue to the next step.
eryunt said:
The visualization of hidden files is active in my PC, and I am trying to import a NON STOCK ROM to add or remove packages.
Ervius kithchen gives me the errors I described, and also OSKitchen gives me errors..
Can these kitchens import only STOCK ROMs?
I used ROMDonald's kitchen because It was able to edit a ROM that was already cooked...but the editing of .hv files is wrong...
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eryunt said:
Yes, It is correct.
But the strange thing is that only one of the two Hermes I have, accepts the ROM after I edit the .hv files...
The question is:
Is there a separate memory where the hive is stored, and can this memory be faulty in one of my Hermes?
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It doesnt make sense why one device would run it, and the other one dont! Are you sure the hive files do not have any errors?
Try to flash a stock ROM first, then flash the cooked one. I know hermes has ext storage, and that can through errors...

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It doesnt make sense why one device would run it, and the other one dont! Are you sure the hive files do not have any errors?
Try to flash a stock ROM first, then flash the cooked one. I know hermes has ext storage, and that can through errors...
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That's the point...It's a nonsense..
I've already tried to flash stock ROM on both devices before flashing the cooked ROM, but It's always the same nonsense, one loads the ROM, the other doesn't...
At this point only a malfunction or a difference in hardware between my two devices could explain this strange behaviour
Don't know how to solve...

are you trying to recook my roms? hahaha just kiddin
everybody knows that we don thave bootable and full dumped roms from customized ones, due to DSMsif you want to make a roms looks like or be something like a... i recommend to ask for the kitchen many retired chefs on Legacy devices can share it to you or just dump the rom and xtract the things you want
but make your own Stock OEM an set good your Native Kernel