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Hi,
Before upgrading my WM5 device to WM6, each time I powered it on I got the same application window I had before it got powered off.
Example: If I was using pocket IE and then turned the device off, as soon as I hit the power-on button, Pocket IE was the active application and I could continue browsing from the point I was before.
Since I upgraded to WM6, each time I turn the device on, I get the Today window. The applications that were running when the device was turned off are still running, but in a minimized state, so I have to use a task manager to bring the desired application to the front.
Is there anything I can do to have the old behavior I had in WM5?
Thanks,
Fran
I think you have some 3rd party app that does that, Battery status can do that, and you can disable it in settings. I'm sure others offer this feature (some like it, some don't). Check your applications.
franjorge said:
Hi,
Before upgrading my WM5 device to WM6, each time I powered it on I got the same application window I had before it got powered off.
Example: If I was using pocket IE and then turned the device off, as soon as I hit the power-on button, Pocket IE was the active application and I could continue browsing from the point I was before.
Since I upgraded to WM6, each time I turn the device on, I get the Today window. The applications that were running when the device was turned off are still running, but in a minimized state, so I have to use a task manager to bring the desired application to the front.
Is there anything I can do to have the old behavior I had in WM5?
Thanks,
Fran
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Yes, the problem lies in the password lock. Even if the phone has not locked and left you at the password entry screen just having it enabled will cause this to happen. Disable the password lock and it will operate the way it should. It's a WM6 issue.
You are right. Disabling the password lock makes it work as it did in WM5.
I am quite new to WM, so perhaps I am going to ask a stupid question, but here it goes anyway: Can this be solved by Microsoft? Is there any way to ask them to do it? Since I installed WM6 I have a "Windows Update" feature, but it never finds any updates. Maybe this could be the first one???
Thanks,
Fran
greg3d said:
Yes, the problem lies in the password lock. Even if the phone has not locked and left you at the password entry screen just having it enabled will cause this to happen. Disable the password lock and it will operate the way it should. It's a WM6 issue.
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franjorge said:
You are right. Disabling the password lock makes it work as it did in WM5.
Can this be solved by Microsoft? Is there any way to ask them to do it?
Thanks,
Fran
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Of ocurse it can, the question is; will it, and if it will, when.
Hi,
Has anyone noticed that the Diamond2 always returns to the home screen after comming out of lock mode or standby?
For example, i could be listening to music, after 5 mins of me not using the screen, the phone would lock. On entering the PIN, the TouchFlo retuns to the home screen, instead of my music app. Same goes for any other app on the TouchFlo. My previous Touch Pro came back to the last opened app on TouchFlo.
Not a huge problem but would be good if there was a tweak to stop this behaviour.
M
mgumbs said:
Hi,
Has anyone noticed that the Diamond2 always returns to the home screen after comming out of lock mode or standby?
For example, i could be listening to music, after 5 mins of me not using the screen, the phone would lock. On entering the PIN, the TouchFlo retuns to the home screen, instead of my music app. Same goes for any other app on the TouchFlo. My previous Touch Pro came back to the last opened app on TouchFlo.
Not a huge problem but would be good if there was a tweak to stop this behaviour.
M
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I dont think that the people here see it as a problem like you and myself I started a thread weeks ago
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507358
1300 views but still no solution, its prob too hard to do Dammm HTC
Martyn
Ps if you find a solution please let me know
I also experienced a problem with switching screens when turning the device back on. Uninstalling TouchLockPro solved the problem for me...
@Brempie
I took your comment about uninstalling TouchLockPro. I didnt have that program installed but i took the PIN lock off my phone temporarily, and hey presto, phone works as it should!
So now we know what causes the problem, hopefully HTC will have a fix for it....eventually.
I'll live with the bug for the moment, i prefer a phone which is PIN locked.
Cheers,
M
I have never had this happen to me. I also installed throttle lock and it always goes back to where it was when I unlock. I just uninstalled throttle lock and did a soft reset to test and make sure it never reverted back to the home screen. Nothing.
No matter what program I am in it wakes up to that same spot. I don't know what the registry hack for this is but there probably is one.
Could you possibly try this? Install ThrotleLock v0.6 and then see if it will work. If it wakes back up to the same screen and not TF3D uninstall it and see if it goes back to TF3D or not.
*warming up this thread*
So, has anyone yet found a solution for this?
It's annoying for me as i have set the device to go to standby after 2 minutes of inactivity when on battery. When i listen to music with the musicplayer in foreground, or when i write an email and someone interrupts me, i put the device in standby by myself or it does automatically after the defined time.
In 95-99%, when i turn back on the device, it has returned back to the touchflo home screen. Very rarely, and it could not yet find any system, the device wakes up exactly where i left it. This is, what it should do everytime but sadly it doesn't.
I'm using the Stock-ROM, activated PIN-Lock of my SIM, having a (WinMobile default) device Lock (4-digits) set to activate after 24 hours (this way it does not activate itself during normal usage, unless i long-press the end-call-button), using 2ndToday with SPB Diary.
It gets more annoying for me every day, because especially during working time i frequently turn the device on and off. Reading RSS-news, turning the device off for an incoming call, turning the device on just to get welcomed by the home-screen instead of staying on the news i previously read isn't that comfortable
Having to open the taskmanager and reactivating the program means at least two more clicks everytime i use the device... so - any solution?
edit: I think i tracked down the source of the problem, watch in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4366357&postcount=14
I upgraded to ROM 1.66 NL a while ago and just now, I noticed that my HD2 isn't forced to stay on while using CoPilot anymore. After a minute or so, the screen dims, and then the device goes to sleep just like it would when not using gps navigation.
This is stupid, of course, and renders CoPilot quite useless. Imagine having to switch your device back on, slide past the lock screen, open CoPilot again (because for some reason it disappears to the background) and wait for the gps to reconnect, all this every couple of minutes, while driving!!!
Before the ROM upgrade, it worked fine.
Does anyone know of a way to fix this? Can't I add CoPilot to a "don't go to sleep" whitelist in the registry or something?
I've had the same problem on NL ROM 1.44, also you can change the setting in CoPilot that CoPilot chooses when to go in standby, and not the phone.
It didn't help for me.
I am now running NL ROM 1.66 and I didn't tested it yet.
Right, found it! It's under "Displaylicht"... of course. I had a look through the settings but somehow missed that.
I didn't really expect it to be in the settings anyway, because for me, it used to work fine out of the box before I upgraded.
Thanks, will try this.
Edit: Seems to be working. Thanks again / nogmaals bedankt!
I don't know if this is really just a "screen lock with disabled bits" or if this is some full-blown idle mode, but I was wondering...
I don't have any car-accessories, but I'd still like to use TomTom. Now, TT offers some nice voice guidance, which is more than enough for just getting around (if I ever get really lost, I can pull over and pick the thing out of my pocket).
However, leaving TT running in my pocket means that the screen is on, the display changes and thus battery will be drained considerably faster than if the thing would be locked... not to mention an accidental press of a button (it's in my pocket, after all).
However, locking the phone turns the GPS off, so even if I leave TT running in the background it does me no good.
Is there anything I could try out in such a case?
So... this is impossible? :/
Nothing specially made for that has been released that I know of.
But from info I could gather around, RunGPS has the capability to be set to turn off the display leaving the GPS running.
So you could just install rungps as well, set it to turn off the display with GPS on, and at the same time also run your fav GPS app, tomtom in this case.
What should happen is that the screen will go off with the GPS still working (thanks to rungps) and tomtom will run in background being now able to access the gps device (still thanks to rungps).
Still worse for battery than having only the useful app running (as rungps will take some cpu cycles for itself and will cause more load on the device) but should still be better than leaving the display on at all times.
Let us know your results.
hey what do you know, 900th post
Hmmm... strange... Last I've noticed my GPS kept runnung while the device was locked. I used NaviComputer to track a walk I did with a friend and had my HD2 locked in my pocket most of the time.
ThoroSOE said:
Hmmm... strange... Last I've noticed my GPS kept runnung while the device was locked. I used NaviComputer to track a walk I did with a friend and had my HD2 locked in my pocket most of the time.
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uhm, don't let that fool you.
First times I used navicomputer just for fun, I thought gps was running in background, but only later I realized that the GPS signal was restored right after turning on the display, and navicomputer was showing a straight line going from my latest positiotn before turning off the display, to the first positiotn it got after wakeup... and I'm sure of that since I double checked several times
In case you check and you DO have your GPS on at all times with device in standby using navicomputer, please let me know the list of installed programs you have (I doubt it tho)
jan-willem3 said:
Change this with your registery
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Resuming]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
"gpd0:"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Unattended]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
"gpd0:"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
"gpd0:"=dword:00000001
Normaly the numbers are on "4" - put this on "1" and gps should stay awake even when you put the phone in standby.
It will stay on until a program stops using the gps.
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Unattended]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
This was already "0". I changed it to "1", too.
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Try this. It works on my HD2. I use Run.GPS to log my tracks while jogging or mountain biking.
Other way to keep gps-fix while screen is off - you have to do only a "screen off", not "standby". I did it with AEButtons+ (e.g. screen off on long-press green call-button) - but with this reg-changes it works better for me.
Or you can only lock your phone and let it go to standby on its own. Then gps-fix will still keep alive. GPS-fix only gets lost if you press hardware-power-button (red end call button) - and registry not changed like above.
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Try this. It works on my HD2. I use Run.GPS to log my tracks while jogging or mountain biking.
Other way to keep gps-fix while screen is off - you have to do only a "screen off", not "standby". I did it with AEButtons+ (e.g. screen off on long-press green call-button) - but with this reg-changes it works better for me.
Or you can only lock your phone and let it go to standby on its own. Then gps-fix will still keep alive. GPS-fix only gets lost if you press hardware-power-button (red end call button) - and registry not changed like above.
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Awesome, thanks!
I'll try it out tomorrow. A bit too late to go for a walk now.
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Try this. It works on my HD2. I use Run.GPS to log my tracks while jogging or mountain biking.
Other way to keep gps-fix while screen is off - you have to do only a "screen off", not "standby". I did it with AEButtons+ (e.g. screen off on long-press green call-button) - but with this reg-changes it works better for me.
Or you can only lock your phone and let it go to standby on its own. Then gps-fix will still keep alive. GPS-fix only gets lost if you press hardware-power-button (red end call button) - and registry not changed like above.
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as far as I know rungps is able to use the gps during screenoff as a feature.
I tried locking the device without pressing endbutton, but navicomputer loses the fix no matter what.
I also noticed thos reg patchesin some other thread but I also read there that other users tried them with no avail; did you test those registry fixes with software other than rungps by any chance?
Without these reg-changes i tested RunGPS and when i press hardware-power-button - GPS-fix was getting lost.
If i only did a screen off - then GPS-fix was still there.
Now with these reg-changes i can press hardware-power-button during running RunGPS and GPS-fix is still there.
I did only test with RunGPS because that is the only GPS-app i want to use while screen is off/device in standby.
If i use a navigation software (iGo8), then i want to have screen always on- so i didn´t test this scenario.
Bib_x said:
I did only test with RunGPS because that is the only GPS-app i want to use while screen is off/device in standby.
If i use a navigation software (iGo8), then i want to have screen always on- so i didn´t test this scenario.
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I see, thank you, let's wait for the OP to test this himself.
Since I already knew rungps has a feature to turn off screen without losing gps signal, I don't think it's the reg settings, but rather it's rungps itself that allows you to do that; since you couldn't test different apps we don't even have a verification
I may try to get at it tomorrow, no guarantee I'll have the time tho
I´ve installed sportypal, too. Maybe i can make some tests this weekend.
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I´ve installed sportypal, too. Maybe i can make some tests this weekend.
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us wants tests with navicomputer
No really, navicomputer is cool anyway, so install that too since you're at it
All right! I'm back with some results. Now, a quick note: I switched to MapaMap, a Polish map application, as it has a lot better maps for Poland.
I performed two tests: firstly, I started a route around the street and used the softftware lock to lock the screen. Result? MM application kept running and kept talking to me. Nice. However, this is still vulnerable to the physical button being pressed and locking the phone; when that happens, MM looses GPS and, in fact, I think the system somehow pauses this applicaiton altogether (more on that in the next bit).
So, since the physical button is still possibly a problem (after all, during driving the phone is in my pocket, and it's not really difficult for that button to be pressed), I tweaked the registry as Bib_x suggested. However, it seems that even IF the GPS module was still running, the MM application enters this weird suspended state, and whenever I resumed it, it would always greet me with a "searching for GPS signal" message. Granted, it would find the signal very quickly, but it still didn't work while the screen was off.
The odd thing is that mode the application went into. Normally, when it's minimised, I can pick it from the task-switcher and bingo! It's instantly back up. But when I press the hardware lock button and then unlock the phone, I get the Windows "please wait, I'm working" wheel in the centre for a while, before the app is restored.
I can check with TT again to see if the problem is restricted to only MM, but something tells me it's not an isolated case. So now I'd need to figure out a way to keep MM working when the phone is locked; kind of like the music player.
EDIT: TomTom resumes a lot faster, but it still looses GPS; right after resuming it says "no GPS device", and that's with the registry changes applied and after restarting the phone.
Shaamaan said:
EDIT: TomTom resumes a lot faster, but it still looses GPS; right after resuming it says "no GPS device", and that's with the registry changes applied and after restarting the phone.
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exactly my experience with any other gps software.
Didn't even try the reg tweaks as I didn't trust them that much.
Just try installing rungps as per my suggestion and using that at the same time with your fav navigation software, maybe the fact that rungps keeps the gps subsystem working while screen is off makes also the other app do its job.
After some more fooling around, I've made it, albeit I fear this method might be limited to MapaMap only.
When installing MM there are two options: either installing onto the HD2 or directly onto the MicroSD card. The former option will always install something called "wake up plugin" (might be worded differently in English) which doesn't show up in the "remove applications" menu, so it's more of an integral part of MM and probably can't be removed in this case. In the latter option, this plugin won't be installed, and in fact, is unavailable.
Initially, I've installed the app directly onto the phone, so that plugin was included automatically. My guess is that THIS was the bit responsible for putting the app into some sort of "sleep" state. However, when I installed the app onto the SD card without the plugin, I could lock the phone using the end-call button and the app wouldn't shut itself down like that; it even kept talking to me during the ride, so everything worked. Once more, I can confirm: THE SYSTEM KEPT ON WORKING DESPITE BEING LOCKED - I drove quite a distance and took some different turns, and the phone kept nicely informing me of the new distance and of upcoming turns.
This was all done using the registry settings suggested in this thread! Without them, the app will loose GPS data when the phone is locked, and if I set it to record my movements, it'll create a straight line between the start and end point, with a "no GPS signal" in the middle
EDIT: Do the registry values 1 and 4 mean "always on" and "always off"? What about values 2 and 3? I'm assuming there's no way to make the GPS module "smart", so that it's turned on only when needed? Or is it possible to add a manual switch for the GPS module to the Comm Manager?
GPS will only be on if a program sends this comand. And if you end the program, then this program sends a kill-comand to gps.
Have you tried with Pocketshield screen lock?
There is a setting at Locking > "Except when...", there you add exceptions to applications which will be allowed to continue running with the screen turned off.
The reg edits work for me with GPS Tuner and google maps, not with iGO8. I had actually tried that myself, but only the ones in "unattended" and set to 0 instead of 1 (as that's the fix that's used to keep music playing in Coreplayer and that works), but apparently it wasn't enough for the GPS. Good news
Hello. I own a HTC HD 2 and my GPS seems to be malfunctioning.
I am trying to search for sattelites and it doesn't find anything.
I tried GPS test and Igo, nothing works.
Tested outside.
What should i do ?
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I had a similar problem with my HTC Diamond. Try Turning off, take the battery out for 5 mins then turn back on. It worked for me.
It is not working for me
Try to get out of the house
kpyhere said:
Hello. I own a HTC HD 2 and my GPS seems to be malfunctioning.
I am trying to search for sattelites and it doesn't find anything.
I tried GPS test and Igo, nothing works.
Tested outside.
What should i do ?
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Have you tried running QuickGPS first?
jujoo said:
Try to get out of the house
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right .. hd2 have one of the best gps receiver... igo8 for me is working faster than my ex-tomtom 520.. i think kpyhere needs to change his sys.txt and delete the content of the save folder ... do a search, under the thread of apps will find some good sys
PS - i never used QuickGPS, not even after a flash of a new rom
I got outside, staid there for a couple of cigarettes, but the gps was not locking to the satelites.
Tried GPS test. This doesn't want to work either...
Maybe a Fix for GPS not finding Satelites
I had the same problem, I tried all the suggestions in this thread and even from the entire forum.
I finally decided to turn AGPS off and amazingly, IGO8 and TOMTOM now find Satelites within 10 seconds. My thinking about this, is that AGPS is trying to find a lock using Cell towers first and this is causing the delay.
Anyway, my two cents worth and maybe it will help.
I'm just using the stock ROM on TMOUSA, but I get a lock on a cold start in about 10 seconds. It is so much better than the Touch Pro 1 or 2.
avasman said:
I had the same problem, I tried all the suggestions in this thread and even from the entire forum.
I finally decided to turn AGPS off and amazingly, IGO8 and TOMTOM now find Satelites within 10 seconds. My thinking about this, is that AGPS is trying to find a lock using Cell towers first and this is causing the delay.
Anyway, my two cents worth and maybe it will help.
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where do you turn off the AGPS? Thanks a lot!
I would like an answer to that question too.
Seems to be working with this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661458
I allready have A-GPS turned off...
So, no solution to this.
Still waiting for ideas.
digitalhater said:
where do you turn off the AGPS? Thanks a lot!
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If you go to Settings, then to Location, it should be there or you could use the tweaks program in the previous post.
Update
I have just arrived in New Zealand (Auckland), started up iGO8 and within 10 seconds I have a lock on 5 satelites. Still have AGPS turned off.
When I get back home (Melbourne), I will turn on AGPS and report back how long it takes to find lock.
avasman said:
If you go to Settings, then to Location, it should be there or you could use the tweaks program in the previous post.
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I have no AGPS setting in Location from Settings.
Can it be found elsewhere without using a tweaking program?
Thanks
Here's how to get te best from this cute app
I found here http://htcpassion.wordpress.com/2008...indows-mobile/ a procedure that allows to get ULTRA FAST GPS FIX. I tried it and seems to work! I'm really astonished. Note: all benefits will be lost if device is switched off or battery is removed.
Let me translate the procedure and add some personal details for non italian mates:
1. Download and install .cab file.
2. Start application and set port (my Artemis default is COM4) and baud rate (my setting is 4800 but 56000 works too).
3. Place your device in a good position for gps fix (open air possibly, not under trees, not close to tall walls,buildings..).
4. Click Open and wait 10 sec.
5. Choose Clear Memory from the scroll-down menu.
6. Click Nav. Init.
7. Wait at least 5 min.
8. Click Close and wait 10 sec.
9. Close application, turn off the device and remove battery.
10. Wait 10 min.
11. Put battery back on, restart device, start HTC GPS TOOL.
12. Check the correct port and baud rate.
13. Click Open and wait 10 sec.
14. Choose Warm Start from the scroll-down menu.
15. Click Nav. Init.
16. Be patient (can take up to 10 min.), relax watching the Satellite Tab and wait for a fix (satellites will turn to green and you'll hear a beep).
17. Click Close and wait 10 sec.
18. Soft-reset your device.
19. Start your favourite GPS application and enjoy LIGHTSPEED FIX!!
Thanks&Greetings to fAnThaMaN.
Feedback will be appreciated aswell as an explanation of what really this procedure does to improve GPS performance so much..if anyone has suggestions..As far as i can understand it clears GPS memory and sets a Warm start..Anyway all the above mentionned waiting times of the procedure (except step 16...) can be drastically reduced if your time is gold
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I've found this app over here and tried the gps again. Seems that this one senses some movement over the GPS. I am trying to follow the tutorial but i get this error. What should i do ?
avasman said:
I have just arrived in New Zealand (Auckland), started up iGO8 and within 10 seconds I have a lock on 5 satellites. Still have AGPS turned off.
When I get back home (Melbourne), I will turn on AGPS and report back how long it takes to find lock.
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I am now back home, turned on AGPS and iGO8 and all my other GPS related apps do not get any satellite locks, I left iGO8 running for 30 minutes and still no locks.
I turned off AGPS and iGO8 found them within 10 seconds.
For me this is working. It maybe worth a try.
Still having problems with the gps...
Seems that i can;t get it working
I had similar problem with Asus A696. One day, it saw satellites (red bars in iGo or proper GPS receiver on in GPSTest), but without positioning.
It was dead amplifier (unfortunately) so if nothing else will help, I'd send it to HTC back...