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I cannot pick up even ONE station in my location by scanning, or manual input. Just static. Is it really that bad?
My previous Symbian phone's FM radio pulled in at least 14 stations automatically.
Is it that bad, or am I doing something wrong?
Using stock headset, btw.
I just tryed the fm radio for the first time, i live in a area with bad reception and i get 4 stations with my hd2, the same as I get in my VW T5. So it works ok for me.
as standard it doesn't pick up many for me and if I stand too far away from the windows I lose half of them. verdict 3/10
with the de emphasis tweak in bsb tweaks I get a little better.maybe 5/10
Compared to my old HD, my HD2 FM receiver performance is also really bad. I can listen to only a few stations with HD2 where I was easily having more than 20 with the HD. Any improvement suggestion is more than welcome.
Agreed, its quite bad. Especially as it requires the earphones to act as an antenna.
Wifes Iphone radio is great quality sad to say lol.
Pity they couldnt have improved on this as with other HTC models
i get the same number (13) in the same place inside house. bsb tweak on. hd2 earphones. reception quality is actually better than my hd (less static noise - cleaner sound).
edit: changing stations over earphone's remote is much better than actual buttons in the radio app. there is no clicking noise that way! try it.
There must be something wrong that is more general than just living in an area with weak fm radio coverage. I used an FM transmitter together with my mp3 player to transmit some music to my HD2 and it wasn't able to pickup even a little bit of it, despite having a 1mW radio transmitter only 20 cm away. I tried both, the stock headset and another one.
Also, the static sounds exactly the same, no matter what frequency the tunes is set to. That's unusual, cause there tend to be different kinds of disturbance in different parts of the FM band, so you would expect the static to change as well as you change the frequency, wouldn't you? It's almost like the HD2 tuner is not changing it's frequency at all!
Those of you who can't receive anything at all: Could you please repeat my experiment with the FM transmitter an post your results here? Thanks!
donalgodon said:
I cannot pick up even ONE station in my location by scanning, or manual input. Just static. Is it really that bad?
My previous Symbian phone's FM radio pulled in at least 14 stations automatically.
Is it that bad, or am I doing something wrong?
Using stock headset, btw.
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have you tried power radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531600 a lot better app. edit currently not supporting hd2.
yes i struggle to pick up any station at all with any headphones plugged in even large hd595's or sure se410
rexboy said:
Agreed, its quite bad. Especially as it requires the earphones to act as an antenna.
Wifes Iphone radio is great quality sad to say lol.
Pity they couldnt have improved on this as with other HTC models
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Iphone FM radio? Does that exist?
Isn't she just using a streaming radio via 3g connection or wifi?
In which case, there are a lot of streaming radio programs for windows mobile as well. Better music than what the radio stations play here, haha.
Going back, the HD2 radio seem to have weak reception for me as well.
1.) on my HD2 i have a brilliant FM-Radio quality
the position of the cable of the earphones is not
important. Currently I have the artemis rom 3.0.
The best radio quality i had with the 1.66 leo stock rom!
2.) a real FM-Radio need a 0,7m long antenna dependent on the wavelenght. It is not possible to include this in a mobile phone. Its just physics. An iphone has no FM radio. It's just using the internet connection for a radio stream.
So install the newest Leo Stock Rom 1.66 and you will have a lot of fun with your real FM radio
regi7 said:
1.) on my HD2 i have a brilliant FM-Radio quality
the position of the cable of the earphones is not
important. Currently I have the artemis rom 3.0.
The best radio quality i had with the 1.66 leo stock rom!
2.) a real FM-Radio need a 0,7m long antenna dependent on the wavelenght. It is not possible to include this in a mobile phone. Its just physics. An iphone has no FM radio. It's just using the internet connection for a radio stream.
So install the newest Leo Stock Rom 1.66 and you will have a lot of fun with your real FM radio
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I use 1.66 stock, and compare to my old touch pro. HD2 FM reception = very2 bad.
Don't bother the built-in FM radio. It's battery drainer. In order to get best reception, you need to be at higher ground level (5-story and above...?)
All that's great, but pretty embarrassing that a $150 Symbian smartphone performed multiple times better with literally any kind of headphones.
As much as I hated the OS, it had a good radio.
sg10 said:
I use 1.66 stock, and compare to my old touch pro. HD2 FM reception = very2 bad.
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hmm i dont know the quality of TP but compared to my old HD its a bit better radio signal. some additional infos i forgot:
i am using the german 1.66 and turned on the tweak in bsb tweaks.
in austria the ukw band is between 88Mhz and 108mhz.
i think the problem is the fm radio driver. on the old stockrom (1.48 as i remember) i had a very bad reception.
rexboy said:
Agreed, its quite bad. Especially as it requires the earphones to act as an antenna.
Wifes Iphone radio is great quality sad to say lol.
Pity they couldnt have improved on this as with other HTC models
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Hæ?
iPhone do not have a FM radio.
So of course, web radio is better if you have internet.
I am quite lucky. Mine only detects 6 radios and my favourite one is one of them ;-)
FMRadio with G-Alarm. Best thing ever ;-)
edit. Ah actually I tried to find some more manually and did!
No FM radio on the Iphone really?? ahah take that Apple! ;-)
I've had maybe ten phones with FM radio since I went smartphone about five years ago, and none of them were even close to my 20 year old Sony pocket radio. For some reason phone makers can't create a radio that works well outside of the large cities. Waste of time for me. The HD and the HD2 weren't any better...
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pretty embarrassing that a $150 Symbian smartphone performed multiple times better with literally any kind of headphones.
As much as I hated the OS, it had a good radio.
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so true. my n95 had the best fm radio i ever had on a phone.
it was THE ONLY thing better than on my hd2, , but still....
so, are there any alternatives to the stock FMRadio for the HD2?
Did any one else have the same experience?
The SQ of music on Android seems to be a LOT better than on WinMO?
BTW I am using the nuForce NE-6 IEMs found here:
http://www.amazon.com/NuForce-NE-7M-Earphones-iPhone-Compatible/dp/B001BL8BO4
did u install SRS WOW HD sound driver for windows Mobiles??
Good observation
Yeah it really is a big difference in quality...I'm glad someone else noticed it. i really like to listen to music on the headphones now! Oh and Srs Wow only alters frequencies...the quality and clearness is still average.
Yup I did and even then the sound on android looks like it has more stereo separation and more dynamics and sounds deeper whereas the same on winmo sounded too flat even with SRS WOW...
Just the opposite for me, but I use pocket player rather than relying on core player or winmo player. PP offers features to numerous for the average Joe (that's me) to fully use, but the equalizer and fader/balance control are excellent.
Maybe Android market offers some nice players, but with so many limitations in the current HD2 Android offerings, I'm sticking with WinMo and keeping an eye out for the lil' robot just for giggles.
Really better on android form me!!!
really nice work dev!
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I thought I was imagining things, but apparently I wasn't
I don't get why playing audio in windows mobile is so hard, it sounds worse than it should be and there is always a half of a second pause between songs.
I use S2P on winmo and I must admit the electrical noise from the device is not good - it is best when device is idle and screen off, but tbh it's pretty crap on both winmo AND android....I am using Westone UM2s and ATH-CK100s with ACS custom sleeves and I hear a LOT of electrical noise in both Oses.
I even near noise with the stock earbuds - dud phone? or do you think I'm sensitive?
It is important to note that the audio deficiencies are clearest with classical music, opera, vocals, jazz etc. Not so much with pop+rock etc.
Actually I was listening to Indian music with a lot of vocals. As the above poster said the difference is more apperant musical with a lot of vocals.
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try dsp manager
should have effect
In case anyone was curious, A2DP really doesnt sound any better between these builds. I'm starting to give up hope, maybe it's just my phone. The sound quality difference is night and day between my Vibrant and the myTouch 3G I have. I've tried on both my Kenwood head unit in my car and a pair of bluetooth headphones so I'm certain it's not the device I'm pairing with.
Ugh, just needed to vent, thanks.
pardon my ignorance, but i keep reading about A2DP and I finally want to find out what it is.
What is it?!?! thanks!!
A2DP is a bluetooth connection profile that supports high quality stereo audio. In the Vibrant's case however it is far from high quality. I was finally able to try another Vibrant today and it sounds just the same so now I know it's not just my phone. Some songs actually pass as decent bust most have a scratchy sound in the background and just lack overall depth. It really sounds like the bitrate is set too low on the Vibrant. Sabotage by the Bestie Boys for example has constant background noise/distortion that is not present when listening with wired headphones.
I've been digging around and swapping files around with the Korean Rom that has a supposed fix but I haven't made any progress.
One of the reasons I'd really like the Vibrant to sound better is because my Head Unit in my car supports A2DP. I have an app on my Vibrant called Tasker set to automatically fire up Pandora when a bluetooth connection is detected. So basically I can start my car and have my phone automatically start playing Pandora through my stereo, I can even advance songs with my dash controls. The audio quality can make it difficult to enjoy, My wife's myTouch3g on the other hand sounds superb on this same setup.
thanks for the response. i don't have a bluetooth set so that's probably why i haven't noticed this.
It really gets me down that my GPS, Compass, and A2DP are all broken on this phone. I'm gonna try and hold out for another month on a fix. If they released it in Korea hopefully they will release it here. Maybe I can talk Eugene or another dev to look into it
Audio quality is one of those subjective things and I really think a casual listener might not notice the problem but once you do you can't ignore it.
Strange, my BT sounds great streaming music through A2DP. I'm just on the stock Eclair build and streaming music through a Sony BT receiver, MW600. It's not an audiophile solution, but pushing music through some high-end IEMs sound perfectly fine for mobile listening. Maybe your hardware is bad?
I've tried two different Vibrant's on my car stereo and a pair of Bluetooth headphones and the results are the same. Again my wife's mytouch3g works perfect on both devices, maybe I should trade her phones . I've also tried an iPhone4 with excellent results.
Someone has actually opened a bug report with google on this very issue so I know I'm not alone in what I'm hearing:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
There was also an update for the Korean version of the Galaxy S that improved A2DP quality. This confirms that there is probably an issue that has not been addressed with our phones, since there have been no updates for Tmo customers.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/14/korean-galaxy-s-receives-update-version-dg07-samsung-expects-to-sell-10-million-worldwide/
chadti99 said:
I've tried two different Vibrant's on my car stereo and a pair of Bluetooth headphones and the results are the same. Again my wife's mytouch3g works perfect on both devices, maybe I should trade her phones . I've also tried an iPhone4 with excellent results.
Someone has actually opened a bug report with google on this very issue so I know I'm not alone in what I'm hearing:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
There was also an update for the Korean version of the Galaxy S that improved A2DP quality. This confirms that there is probably an issue that has not been addressed with our phones, since there have been no updates for Tmo customers.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/14/korean-galaxy-s-receives-update-version-dg07-samsung-expects-to-sell-10-million-worldwide/
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Honestly, the quality of sound threw my A2DP is better than threw my headphone jack
jz9833 said:
Honestly, the quality of sound threw my A2DP is better than threw my headphone jack
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Hi jz9833, what bluetooth device are you pairing your Vibrant with? Also what firmware, music app, file format are you using?
Have you considered going back to the stock ROM?
BT on mine is virtually identical to the headphone jack output. With Ety ER4p I can detect a little bit of digital hiss, but it's not really noticeable in a mobile environment.
Kubernetes said:
Have you considered going back to the stock ROM?
BT on mine is virtually identical to the headphone jack output. With Ety ER4p I can detect a little bit of digital hiss, but it's not really noticeable in a mobile environment.
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Just today I tried a friends brand new out of the box Vibrant and I could still hear distortion/crackling at high frequencies. I then paired my headphones to my other friends iPhone4 just seconds after testing the new Vibrant and guess what, no distortion.
Man, I don't know what to say to you. My Vibrant sounds better out of BT than my iPod does out of its headphone jack. What BT headset are you using? For some strange reason they may just not get along. I've got a Sony MW600 and it's fantastic.
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I've tried two different Vibrant's on my car stereo and a pair of Bluetooth headphones and the results are the same. Again my wife's mytouch3g works perfect on both devices, maybe I should trade her phones . I've also tried an iPhone4 with excellent results.
Someone has actually opened a bug report with google on this very issue so I know I'm not alone in what I'm hearing:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
There was also an update for the Korean version of the Galaxy S that improved A2DP quality. This confirms that there is probably an issue that has not been addressed with our phones, since there have been no updates for Tmo customers.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/14/kor...samsung-expects-to-sell-10-million-worldwide/
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There is no word on if this fixed it or not and according to your link this has nothing to do with Samsung.
Look, if you don't know that Samsung has acknowledged GPS by now, has already fixed the compass in the JI4 series you mentioned in this thread, you should just jump over to Android 2.2 and it's problems.. sounds like you won't be getting a fix either way according to your own links
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Hi jz9833, what bluetooth device are you pairing your Vibrant with? Also what firmware, music app, file format are you using?
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I am on stock vibrant, using the stock music/video app, playing mp3s, mp4s, avis, all going to my Sony MW600s.
heygrl said:
There is no word on if this fixed it or not and according to your link this has nothing to do with Samsung.
Look, if you don't know that Samsung has acknowledged GPS by now, has already fixed the compass in the JI4 series you mentioned in this thread, you should just jump over to Android 2.2 and it's problems.. sounds like you won't be getting a fix either way according to your own links
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The first link confirms that other Android devices are having the same issue. Again my wife's myTouch3G doesn't suffer from the problem so I think it could be a simple bit rate setting that some manufacturers are overlooking.
The second link confirms that there is an A2DP problem on the Samsung Galaxy S and a fix exists.
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The first link confirms that other Android devices are having the same issue. Again my wife's myTouch3G doesn't suffer from the problem so I think it could be a simple bit rate setting that some manufacturers are overlooking.
The second link confirms that there is an A2DP problem on the Samsung Galaxy S and a fix exists.
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No it doesn't. You don't know if the "fix" is not a "fix". The myTouch 3G has Android 1.6 stock and if she hasn't changed it, it's still running Android 1.6.
heygrl said:
No it doesn't. You don't know if the "fix" is not a "fix". The myTouch 3G has Android 1.6 stock and if she hasn't changed it, it's still running Android 1.6.
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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, I still hear the distortion on a bone stock Vibrant. The reason I tried these beta builds was because I was hoping that Samsung would have incorporated the A2DP update. And yes the mytouch3g is running Android 1.6.
What does "You don't know if the "fix" is not a "fix"" mean? I think the fact that Samsung released an update for the Korean Galaxy S that improves A2DP quality pretty much sums it up, there was a problem and they fixed it.
This reminds me of the Oscar Rogers skit on SNL, "Sombeody needs to look at this mess and fix it!", lol.
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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, I still hear the distortion on a bone stock Vibrant. The reason I tried these beta builds was because I was hoping that Samsung would have incorporated the A2DP update. And yes the mytouch3g is running Android 1.6.
What does "You don't know if the "fix" is not a "fix"" mean? I think the fact that Samsung released an update for the Korean Galaxy S that improves A2DP quality pretty much sums it up, there was a problem and they fixed it.
This reminds me of the Oscar Rogers skit on SNL, "Sombeody needs to look at this mess and fix it!", lol.
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Have you heard the purported fix on your phone? Have you seen what other people have said about it? No and no.
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Have you heard the purported fix on your phone? Have you seen what other people have said about it? No and no.
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This is true, I have no idea what the A2DP fix does besides doing what Samsung claims it does, improve A2DP playback quality, which is exactly what I want. What is your point again?
Bluetooth audio still sounds poor on the new JI5 build. I've tried on three different Vibrants and three different bluetooth audio devices and have had others hear exactly what I hear. My wife's exact words, "Your phone sounds like a radio broadcast and my phone sounds like a CD."
I spoke to Samsung and they acknowledged there was a problem and said it was due to my devices not being Bluetooth 3.0 compatible. To my knowledge you can't even buy headphones that support 3.0 yet. I really wish they could fix this, I really like the phone overall.
I have big problems with FM radio in my HD2. Reception is very poor. I can barely found any station and even this one is very silent with lot of noise.
I have tried changing it from stereo to mono in settings, which is supposed to improve signal. But that does absolutely nothing on HD2, everything stays the same.
Is that common issue? What can i do to improve signal?
My specifications are in signature.
Unfortunately the receiver in the HD2 is not the greatest.
I think the dc-dc convertor for the screen is also causing alot of HF noise.
Try to turn off the screen if you can set it to a freq where you normally receive a station and you should have less noise.
I use the radio all day and yes, its common. The hd2 has just about the worst radio I've ever used and that includes cheap (really really cheap) pound shop radios. It's abysmal, and someone at HTC is either laughing at us or was quietly sacked. No way could it accidentally be so rubbish.
Its made worse in android because for some arcane reason Bluetooth must be on AND mono doesn't work.
One tiny thing that sometimes helps is switching to a different preset and back again. Seems to lessen the Bluetooth interference, and using 2g only seems to help a hint too.
For all thati love my hd2, and I really really do, I hate the pathetic excuse for a radio.
I would also agree that the FM Radio app isn't great at all. If you have WiFi access or a data plan, I would use the Tune In Radio app found on the Market to get your local radio station crystal clear and in stereo!
The FM radio is really poor as known yeah but has anybody ever thought that it may be their headphones (as that is the satelite AFAIK). The current earphones I'm using are great on my HD2 and I'm getting no noise at all using Typhoon's latest CM7 ROM. I've had lots of problems with other headphones, but none with these new ones. Just my share.
I was using HTC headphones, cheap noname headphones and now philips headphones. Noise is the same on all headphones.
matejdro said:
I was using HTC headphones, cheap noname headphones and now philips headphones. Noise is the same on all headphones.
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Did you try with the screen off?
I agree having the screen on produces a lot of noise. Does anyone else find sense roms are better (less noisy signals) than non-sense android roms.
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Yup I find that too. It depends on the dev though, I've found AndrewF's Desire HD ROM works the best. I don't know if it's still being continued or not though as that was a month+ ago.
Guys I also want to know how to make FM radio work as the one given in the below ROM works but the reception is not good at all also for no reson it enable bluetooth when I turn on radio and if i try to disable the bluetooth it turn off the FM radio. So can anyone tell me how to get FM radio work on the ROM im using.
This is the best ROM i had found with good battery life and stability but the FM radio thing sucks and more over when asked about it in the thread it is neglected so can any1 please help me on this
Did you read the earlier posts?
Yes the reception sucks,, on any OS, and yes android requires Bluetooth to be running.
samsamuel said:
Did you read the earlier posts?
Yes the reception sucks,, on any OS, and yes android requires Bluetooth to be running.
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Not really reception on WinMo 6.5 was good that on windows phone 7 was pretty decent but on android its suckxxxx I tried a different radio that did not require bluetooth but then again reception was bad
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In that case you're lucky, even when I'm in direct line of sight about 3 miles from our regional transmitter its rubbish,,winmo,wp7,android,,makes no difference,,I have a dirt cheap kids radio that I use for work,cost me £1 and is ten times better.
New to the Vega as of 4 days ago so decided to jump straight in and run it on vegacomb 1.7 from the off. Working great apart from the really poor quality of the sound when using the headphone jack. Ive done a couple of searches and cant find many other having this issue. Really liking vegacomb but am considering a different ROM as its that bad, out of the speakers its what i expected but the sound from the headphone jack is tinny as hell. Ive tried using poweramps EQ to improve it but no joy it just sounds distorted.
Any pointers
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Hi the sound is tinny with vegacomb at the moment. I saw someone say using a power amp type application and set it to mega bass or something and that helps otherwise were all waiting for the new release which is coming along over on modaco site but a little slower than I had hoped due to memory issues being only 512mb ram but looks like they are getting around it and have come a long way in a short time.
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I'l maybe hold off then for a while just getting to grips with vegacomb and the fact its working with my 3g dongle straight away is a real bonus. Bought it for work and need the headphones for videos etc. Maybe i'l try playing with the EQ a bit more and get it listenable.
Tinny audio is a known bug with all current versions of vegacomb. There is no fix for it yet.
Hopefully when the versions of vegacomb with the new kernel will fix this and the cameras force close problem when they are released.