Ok, so i installed TomTom navigator 7.450 on my P3600.
The program works fine, i can change settings, add maps,...
The only thing it won't do is find my GPS device. Whenever I want to view the GPS status, it just sais it can't find the GPS device.
Anyone know how to fix this? Or should i just go back to navigator 6...
Help would be greatly appreciated!
Have you flashed it's ROM or Radio?
If so what versions? Earlier Radios didn't have the GPS enabled.
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I just have the latest ROM from the HTC website.
Tomtom navigator 6 works fine so i guess there is no support for navigator 7?
Did you remember to point the device at the internal GPS?
It's probably under settings somewhere. usually you select 'Other devices' then look for 'GPS on COM9'. with baud rate 9600.
what do you mean?
when tomtom said i didn't have a device, i selected internal, but it wouldn't do anything...
if it's a general setting, tomtom 6 works, so i guess that's ok there
When I first install TomTom6 On my Trinity I had to manually select which GPS device to use. I select 9600 baud rate and the device 'GPS on COM9'. This was under the 'Other GPS devices' menu. I can only assume you're going to have to tell it which GPS to use. Or it might think you've got an external TomTom bluetooth dongle or something.
I haven't actually got TomTom7 yet, I'm just trying to suggest things it could be.
wow, it worked :|
thanks a million!
Glad I could help.
Now you can do me a favour and tell me how TomTom7 behaves on the Trinity.
How fast does it tend to get a signal?
Is there much of the dreaded GPS lag when you're driving along causing you to miss exits?
I might upgrade if it's any good.
Well, i haven't driven around much using it yet (just went on my motorcycle and had a little spin) but it reacted quite fast.
The first time it took less then a minute to get a signal.
I drove to a friend's place to drop some stuff off and turned off my pda while i was there. When i turned it back on, it almost instantly found my location! (must have saved the positions of the satellites or something)
It works quite fast and even tho there aren't allot of big changes, i noticed it worked allot smoother.
I mainly upgraded so i could use the new maps. I don't know if it's really worth the upgrade when you don't need new maps, but this made my day.
hi,
I to use Tomtom 7, and have used it on various Trinity's .... and it runs flawlessly.
the settings that never fail for me are:
'other NMEA receiver'
baud 4800
GPS on Com 9
my Tomtom version is 7.450 (9028) with UK v7.20.1802 maps
Yep, I used 9800 because of chimpsinties tip. Works flawless until now.
Going on a road trip next week, so I'll notice if it doesn't obey my wishes
Has anyone gotten mapshare to work with Tomtom 7 on Trinity? I just get a message that the device or map isn't supported. Of course, Trinity isn't in the supported devices list... but is there a workaround? I use TT7.450 and map WCE8.35.
i don't use any of the tomtom services, so i wouldn't know
chimpsinties said:
Did you remember to point the device at the internal GPS?
It's probably under settings somewhere. usually you select 'Other devices' then look for 'GPS on COM9'. with baud rate 9600.
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9600? I always thought the recommended baud rate on Trinity was 57600?
Mattster.
Well it works perfectly on 9600 for me and has always done.
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Well it works perfectly on 9600 for me and has always done.
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Interesting to know. I guess I'll try it and see what happens! To tell you the truth, I'm not even sure what baud rate even does!
Mattster.
Basically by setting the baud rate, you are letting the computer know how many signal's the device is going to be transmitted per second so they can understand each other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baud
If you set it higher than it needs to be it probably doesn't make any difference, It will just be processing a lot of blank signals and thus possibly wasting effort.
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can anybody tell me how & what is the step to get the GPS works ?
thanks..
Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.
what are some of the best gps software for ameo?
I would think google maps with the ability to real time track your location would be great. Anyone try that?
Tomtom Navigator 6.
Coz it's free.
Edit - I in no way condone the use of pirated software, and I'll no doubt burn in hell for my sins....
Dopod U1000
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device
wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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the Global Positioning System is global, and should work anywhere on the globe !! apart from in war zones (and near US military bases) where the signal is sometimes deliberately degraded so enemies cant use satellite guided missiles.
wu5262 said:
i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device
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should i install any third party software beforehand?
Help
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian
I've got Tom Tom Navigator 5 working (using COM 5), but I've also not managed to get Google Maps working.
GPS is not working with GM
edintao said:
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian
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This is also a big problem in Germany - it's not possible to get it working with Google Maps. We tried everything (also to disable the GPS-Splitter and use Com5 which helps with some programs, but not with Google Maps).
So we gave up for the moment waiting for an update (maybe Athena, maybe Google).
Teja
alanplum said:
Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.
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Got mine working in TT6 by doing:
Other NMEA GPS Receiver
GPS Baud Rate: 4800
Com4
Is this what everyone else is doing ?
is the Baud rate correct?
Its quite chuggy/slow compared to tt6 on universal. i.e. 2-3fps as opposed to almost smooth on universal
Also, is it possible to change that tomtom icon thats on the today screen ? its so ugly and blocky - really detracts from the otherwise lovely Ameo screen
Mine is working great. By the way, i'm using MapKing10. When setting the port just select auto and the software should be able to detect the port in use. My unit can lock on into the satellite signal in less then 5s, thats impressive.
Hi
Does anyone know where to get a copy of the aforementioned TT6 for free? I had just bought TT navigator 6 with GB + Western Europe for my Mio A701 about 3 months ago but was gutted to find I couldnt transfer the licence to my new Ameo so i sold the boxed product with the Mio.
Anyone know where I can get one (strictly for "backup" purposes of course).
Cheers
Very easily found on torrent sites.
I won't give a link here as I assume that would be frowned on by the management....
ok, will have a look. not that familiar with all this torrent stuff!
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GPS Port
I looked in the registry and I found that com 5 is the official port. Strange enough com 4 and 5 work.
Getting GPS working
I purchased an A701 last week and had one hell of a time tring to get TT6 to work, even though MM worked fine. It appears that some software originally designed for ealier MS does not like Com4. I loaded a program called VisualGPSse, a freedownload, and set that to com 4 and bingo TT6 spang into life. Before using TT now I lauch that small app and it works fine. I,ll try and find the link if Google doen't find it for you.
ps. Does anyone know of an app that will allow me to use hands free, my Mio Rom R65 seems duff in this area.
getting GPS to work
I've installed my vehicle navigation software (copilot live v5) without any problem twice.
But when I tried to instal another GPS-based application called MobileGolfScorer, the system was simply unable to sense any satellite signal. Not only that, the system became extremely slow to the point of freezing up and not responding.
Then, I read about the post that says com5 is the default, so I said to myself may be I should use com5 instead of 4 in my start>setting>GPS.
After changing to com5, my MobileGolfScorer was able to recognise signal although the signal was extremely weak. Also, it was no longer freezing up. I thought that may be I've at least solved the problem and the weak signal may be due to the fact that I was not directly under the open sky.
The new problem is that after changing to com5, my copilot stopped working! When trying to reset GPS within copilot, it just said that I either did not have the GPS connected, or I was having the wrong com selection and/or baud rate. I tried all possible combinations of com and baud rate (including letting it find automatically) but unfortunately the results were the same.
Then I thought to myself may be copilot can only use com4. Since vehicle navigation is a more important application to me, I may have to sacrifice MobileGolfScorer until the problem is resolved. So I went to start>setting>GPS and reverted to com 4.
I then tried to get copilot to work but now it would not. MGS also would not work. So now I have two GPS applications that are not able to sense any signal. I can see the gsm led orange light(GPS) and green light(phone) alternating, which means that the GPS is supposed to be working, althoug the orange light disappears by itself after a while. The thing is, with or without the orange light, the software were not able to sense any GPS signal.
What do all these suggest? Any idea???
Chapter 2 to my story:
Since I'm also experiencing MD lost cluster problems, I had wonder if it could be that some system files used by the copilot program is corruptted. So I decided to hard-reset the unit and reinstall everything from scratch again. The first thing that I did after hard resett was to instal MobileGolfScorer. It did not work when I used com4 and baud rate 4800. Could not detect any GPS signal although the orange light was blinking. Then I installed Copilot live Pocket PC v5. This software has no problem detecting the signal right away. In my mind, it seems to suggest that the reason for copilot to have stopped working could be due to file corruption, while MobileGolfScorer still for some reason could not detect it. What I also failed to understnad is why for a very brief period it did detect very week signal (see chapter 1 above).
My fear: Once I was so confident that com4 and baud rate 4800 solves all problems. Now I'm less sure what is going on. If you're lucky, it works; if you not lucky it does'nt seems to work. You could be doing exactly the same thing entering the same setting but you could get different results. Is it due to file corruption? Why does it get corrupted so easily?
Let's hope some smarter mind could figure this out for us.
Its all about the sucky comport management in windows.
If one app is accessing a com port, no others can.
If windows GPS management is accessing the GPS on com5, then you shouldnt connect to com5 yourself. The whole point of the windows management is that the software port (often port4) it creates is meant to be able to be read by multiple programs.
However, most programs dont seem to like the software port. Eg, googlemaps.
I just turned off the MS GPS management and only use apps that directly attatch to com5, and only one app at a time.
I have the Trinity P3600
rom version 2.0.1.1
rom date 03/07/07
radio version 1.41.00.11
protocol version 32.74.7020.18H
Im also running windows media 6
I have followed all instructions I can find but still can not activate my GPS on the hand set , my friend has the Orange M700 and that worked no prob's.
please could someone give a good step by step NFO to help solve my problem
Thanks !
You have a GPS enabled ROM so you shouldn't have to do anything to 'activate' the GPS- it starts automatically, and transparently when a GPS aware application runs.
Which GPS application (s) are you trying to use? Make sure their settings point to COM9 and Baud 57600, then go outside with a clear view of the sky to allow the satellite data to download.
also wm6. I-Go first detected the gps at com 9 57600 but suddenly works only with 9600 !!!
any comments?
Some apps are a bit picky when it comes to baud rates- most will accept any value, but some prefer a set value, regardless of the hardware capability. Which version of iGO are you using?
I use iGO 2006 Plus on my WM6 Trinity and it links at the default hardware settings.
It is odd that iGO did accept the hardware settings before. As long as it works though, I'd not worry. The baud rate is irrelevant, as the actual data transfer is less than 1000 baud.
TomTom Navigator
I'm using TomTom & CamerAwar , when through all settings with fine tooth comb , and evan sat on top of a hill for half an hour and NOTHING . bEGINING to miss my 10 year old Nokia Banana phone that just took calls
chelski said:
I'm using TomTom & CamerAwar , when through all settings with fine tooth comb , and evan sat on top of a hill for half an hour and NOTHING . bEGINING to miss my 10 year old Nokia Banana phone that just took calls
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Reflash with another ROM. Must be a bad flash. Only explanation I have. Start with an official HTC WM5 GPS enabled ROM and see.
chelski said:
I'm using TomTom & CamerAwar , when through all settings with fine tooth comb , and evan sat on top of a hill for half an hour and NOTHING . bEGINING to miss my 10 year old Nokia Banana phone that just took calls
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Did the GPS work before the ROM update?
Could be a hardware fault.
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Some apps are a bit picky when it comes to baud rates- most will accept any value, but some prefer a set value, regardless of the hardware capability. Which version of iGO are you using?
I use iGO 2006 Plus on my WM6 Trinity and it links at the default hardware settings.
It is odd that iGO did accept the hardware settings before. As long as it works though, I'd not worry. The baud rate is irrelevant, as the actual data transfer is less than 1000 baud.
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using also i-GO plus. thank you for the reassuring me. i thought so. the strange thing is that it worked (for 45 km) with 57600 but on the way back..nothing over 9600!!
i don't think i changed something...
No the GPS has never worked ! ( YET )
Sounds like a hardware fault in that case
If you have a GPS Radio ROM (anything from 1.30.00.11 onwards) and a GPS aware app (TTN set to COM9 and 57600 Baud) and it doesn't work, either the GPS is kaput, or possibly the Radio ROM didn't flash properly.
GPS up and working
Thanks for the help , loaded up visual GPS and set the comms port & BAUD rate & that kicked in then switched on TomTom & now i'm not lost anymore
ei mates
apologies if this has been posted before. i was wondering what gps settings you guys use which in your opinion optimizes the gps application. i did read that comport 4 is normally used for the programs. may i ask what you guys use for the hardware? i noticed that setting comport 4 for BOTH software and hardware takes absolutely ages to get sat fixes. at the moment i'm using comport 4 for the programs and comport 5 for the hardware. anyone with better settings? and what's the baud rate that you use?
thanks and cheers
Hi there,...
I am not sure what you exactly requesting, but I am playing with the standard settings of WM6 and have a fix within 30 sek (maybe a little more sometimes).
This means:
GPS programmport = 4
GPS hardwareport = *not set* / baud 4800
By the way... this with the Radio Rom 1.50 !!! Think this also might be important. If you use older ROM you should this about flashing Radio maybe!
Find according ROMs here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319993
Due to ActiveSync within every 2 days quickGPS is always up to date (mmh,.. ok most of time let me say)
Example using TT 6.030
Getting into car... activate TT (and GPS with it) and setting the target location.
Then I mount this Ameo in the car holder... this approx takes over all 30-60 sek. after this time TT has the fix, I can start navigation and startup.
Ofter heard about problems with the GPS, but I can not confirm.
Not exactly what you like to know, but maybe my experience is a little useful.
The problem could also be, that the chipset is not the Sirfstar one. So it could have some difficulties with connection in forests, among tall buildings etc...
thanks for the response. on what i'm after is the settings you put in your gps. i didn't upgrade my unit to wm6 nor do i have plans of doing so. with that i still use comport 4 for the programs and so far comport 5 seems to be give me around 30-45 seconds to get a sat fix. i was wondering if there are other comport settings for the hardware (coupled with the baud rate) that the others use...and works well with them.
thanks!
Hi all, I am currently testing Garmin XT and I noticed that there seems to be a bit of a lag in the GPS when you are driving around. I have TomTom currently which is flawless. Is there perhaps some setting I missed with Garmin or is this just the way it is???
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Hi all, I am currently testing Garmin XT and I noticed that there seems to be a bit of a lag in the GPS when you are driving around. I have TomTom currently which is flawless. Is there perhaps some setting I missed with Garmin or is this just the way it is???
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I believe this has to do with the nature of the software drivers and the way they interact with the hardware of the phone. It is something that may be different from phone to phone.
Ahhh darn thats a shame I am running a mogul. What I like about Garmin is the fact that it has gas prices and traffic for free unlike TomTom. Anyone else experiencing the same issue?
seems to work fine for me, but I use it with the bluecharts maps and not any street maps.
Hmm well I just wanted to post a follow up not sure if this will help since I haven't tried on the streets yet. I went into the settings and by default Garmin had selected "Use GPD Intermediate Driver" which worked for me but again I saw a lag while driving around and frequent redrawing of where I was relative to the map.
So now I just went back to the settings and hit "disable" which then brought up a list "Use Bluetooth GPS" "Use GPD Intermediate Driver" and "Use Serial GPS". I then selected "Use Serial GPS" and selected COM4:COM4. I had to do this a couple of times the software would scan but not let me keep COM4 but after a few tries it found COM4. I don't know if this will make everything faster but I will keep everyone posted.
Well even after the changes I made seems garmin is just slow tracking and when you are driving that can really suck.
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Well even after the changes I made seems garmin is just slow tracking and when you are driving that can really suck.
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How slow is slow? I use Garmin now, and used to use Tomtom, and while it might seem that the arrow doesn't move quite as often, it still seems to be doing what it's supposed to. Is the screen not updating as often?
I have both on my Mogul -- I just updated the Garmin with the 2008 maps and tested it the other day on a 2 hour trip - it was dead on but I did use a blue tooth GPS antenna Holux 240Slim instead of the built in GPS -- I find the built in is dependent on a data connection which I will lose when I go out of area.
I noticed the Garmin was within a few feet of being dead on -- see an exit and there it was on the map - including the talking parts when I was told to exit right, etc
Mule
I've used both and I have found that XT is slightly slower in its frame rate then TOMTOM. However, I have been a long time GPS user and LOVE the fact that I can now load all of my topograhical and marine maps to my P4000! The detail and accuracy of XT makes TOMTOM maps look like something off Dora the explorer. TOMTOM didn't even have roads drawn in for my home town. It was just a peininsula into water. On XT you even see the ATV paths that follow the coast! With the topo maps you can pick a lake, hike to it and fish your brains out! XT takes it off road. Tomtom is of no use in that department. Its a hikers dream: music, communications, nav, camera and more in one small device. To bad the P4000 isn't waterproof. My Garmin Rino must be feeling left out....
you might want to check which driver you are using... I'm on 42020... I know I had problems with 42030 (resetting my clock and what not) and heard 42040 had issues to.. just a thought...
i believe all gps lag one second behind real time. tomtom is the only software that predict 1/2 and 1 second ahead.
btw, does anybody know how to limit garmin xt auto zoom? sometime it zoom out way too much.
you can turn off auto zoom but you can't "control" it.. the default is to zoom out to show next turn... I just keep it turned off...
Hi
I just bought an GPS-Mouse, in order to make TOMTOM usefull.
It worked a couple of days ago, but TOMTOM can't find the GPS-device now.
Does somebody have some usefull tips for me?
(GPS mouse is a Adapt AD-500 GPS Bluetooth receiver)
Cheers
I only use holux, but try restarting phone that usually helps
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I only use holux, but try restarting phone that usually helps
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Yup same here, Holux M-1200 with iGo MyWay software. But are you sure you set up a secure connection with the bluetooth and set it as a com port 6 or 7 with the correct baud rate? Did you follow everything step by step in your manual for the tomtom?
Well, I tried to follow the manual, but it didn't really help me. There was very little information in the manual, and the information in it was not very clear. The fact is, that it worked a couple of days ago, and now I cannot connect anymore...
I have a motorola BT GPS, supposedly motorola is rock-solid, but I've had troubles with it at times. Rebooting the phone would work occasionally, turning off the GPS would work occasionally, turning off both would work occasionally, if you get the picture, no ONE thing did it each time.
Recently, I found Franson GPSGate (the full version) This keeps a good connection with the bluetooth GPS better than it ever has been before, even when walking away from and then back to the gps device. It also generates a comport that multiple GPS programs can use at once. Very handy little program.
Hope it helps someone.
itrek bluetooth for me....
Do you know about the settings, External GPS icon on the Wing? Go in there and make sure you've got com port set i have mine at program port 6 which is where most gps like to sit for some reason but if it's not working for you play with that setting unfortunately it's trial and error but play with it. I don't know what you'd need "hardware port" for but since you're using a mouse and not a bluetooth unit can't hurt to play with that too, and in the last screen be sure you've got "manage automatically" checked, or maybe you need to uncheck it. All stuff to play with. Did you put any software on lately that could have hosed something? Did you try reloading tom tom? See if you can find one of those freeware utilities that talk to the gps unit and see if it can find it.
This device doesnt have a internal gps correct ? I always thought it didnt but I see some people talking as if it does. Then again, you all wouldnt be buying externals if that was the case.