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My tytn require a quite large amount of time to wake up and I was wondering if I was the only one in this case.
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.
The virtual keyboard used for inputing the code is also getting on my nerv; most of the time it start with the landscape layout (without any reason) and it take 2 sec to adjust to the portrait layout; during that time it is hard for me to input my code correctly because the size of the key is changing.
So, 2-4 seconds for waking up plus 2 seconds for keyboard adjustement is in my opinion quite slow. Am I the only one experiencing this? Are there fixes out there?
I also have some trouble with notification; it wake the device up! If the device is not password protected (only after 15 minutes on my phone) it start most of the time PIE (because of the hardware button). All this lead so to my second question: Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
Thank you in advance !
fun_key said:
Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
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Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"
Thanks for your fast answer, i ll give a try!
Concerning the screen orientation issue I found out that it is related to the HTC case magnet.
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In fact it was already configured like this; the device is not waked up by the hardware buttons, but by the notifications.
if you use the key lock you can avoid unwanted key presses. As for wake up times. I don't think anyone who has this device wants to admit that it takes to long cause they paid sooo much for it. However, I will admit that it does take a long time to wake up. I am comfortable saying this because its much like a turbo car, at first its not as fast as most naturally aspirated cars (turbo lag), then it blows their doors off. So it takes a couple seconds to wake up, then its faster then most other devices.
Later, Lew
Agreed. Coming from standby I get two rings of the "Old Phone" ringtone before it goes to voice mail.
I am hoping that new firmware will resolve this issue - my wizard was certainly more responsive when i presses the poer button to bring it out of standby. This is furthur delayed by the fact that i keep scabbling around the top of the device for the power button insted of the side!
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Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"
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This doesn't help with the particular problem. What I think fun_key is trying to say is that whenever he gets a notification (for example when he gets a new sms message or a notification for a meeting) the phone will come out of sleep mode, so the key lock setting for "when device is off" won't be in effect. Instead the device will be powered up and accepting all keypresses, like the IE / Messaging- buttons, not to mention any presses on the screen.
I too find this annoying, and wish there was a way to make the phone go back to sleep after showing me a notification, instead of waiting for the default sleep time to go by. There are programs out there that have this functionality (for example MortSaver) though, so my advice would be to use those.
- Pud.0
thank for the mortsaver ip; i ll give a try!
Have exactly the same problems as fun_key (power button, keyboard in landscape, etc), and I suspect most of other people do. The wizard was definitely more responsive.
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It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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g00nerz said:
fun_key said:
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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Glad your problem is solved. Perhaps others may find the following of note as well as your solution above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-258109.html
Mike
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Hi team
I have the same issue, every time i turn my hermes on after its been off for more than say 30seconds it starts in landscape mode then switches to portraite mode, its driving me mad, at least i now know i am not the only person. maybe this will be fixed in the next rom update, fingers crossed aye
UPDATE: i also found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286552&highlight=standby+landscape
does anyone have any thoughts on his comments?
I actually think that the reply in the thread i posted above is correct,
My Hermes is an IMATE JASJAM (same thing of course) and i use the original belt holder that came with it, it has two (2) magnets in it to keep the cover shut, when ever i get a msg and i pull it out of the case (turns on automatically to show me the msg) its always comes out in landscape mode.
I turned my phone on and passed the cover with magnet side down over the phone and sure enough as i did that the screen changed from portrait to landscape mode, thus confirming its the magnet that causes it and not a defect with the phone.
My phone is always waking up for odd reasons (AVRCP commands, switching in and out of roaming, etc...), and I can't seem to get the darned thing to stay OFF.
Music A2DP streaming is the biggest deal to me, because not only will the device wake up when I press a remote command (on my AVRCP headset), it will also keep the device backlight on indefinitely. This is clearly shortening my battery.
I tried Slide2Unlock, and have it set to shut off the display if no activity for 5 sec., but the problem is that Slide2Unlock appears to not notice when it is woken up, and just sits there without turning the screen back off again! (a simple screen press brings Slide2U back to life, and then it will toggle the screen... but this defeats the purpose!)
There must be SOMETHING I'm missing here... doesn't anyone else have this problem???
I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
Maybe it depends on the player you're using? With Coreplayer, my phone's screen just flashes on and off quickly when it receives an AVRCP command.
Still doesn't explain the roaming thing though.
xeno1 said:
I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
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Yes, I'm using WM6 on a HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul).
I don't currently timeout to the today screen, but I don't see how that would cause my problem really- I've heard people mention that before, so can anyone explain what difference that would make?
I already have a shortcut to screen toggle (wrote my own MortScript to do it). That's not a problem anyway since every media player can assign a button to toggle the screen- The problem is that it keeps turning the screen back on when a button is pressed no matter how many times I toggle!!
Plastriq, I've heard that coreplayer does that... that's how they deal with this problem. They're the only ones that have addressed it as far as I know, and I'm not about to pay for their app when I already have TCPMP and WMP for free.
I just can't believe that there haven't been more practical ways around this yet!
Anyone know how to change the in-call screen timeout? I think it's like 5 seconds right now. Maybe like 10 or 15 seconds would be a little more practical.
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Anyone know how to change the in-call screen timeout? I think it's like 5 seconds right now. Maybe like 10 or 15 seconds would be a little more practical.
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Not sure but it times out so you can put it up to your face while your talking on it without the touch screen freaking out on us so i sincerely doubt there is any way to change it.
stats555 said:
Not sure but it times out so you can put it up to your face while your talking on it without the touch screen freaking out on us so i sincerely doubt there is any way to change it.
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yeah but trying to navigate voicemail is a PITA... I did find the button that keeps the thing "live/on" while plugged into power... that at least is nice.
--M
daveknights said:
Anyone know how to change the in-call screen timeout? I think it's like 5 seconds right now. Maybe like 10 or 15 seconds would be a little more practical.
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I'm not having this problem at all so I wasn't sure what people were referring to. However, I discovered that my sister was having the same problem described here and on other forums. Her phone would timeout within a second or two and it was extremely annoying to her. So off I went trying to help her.
Short Answer: Reboot the phone via the red/power key.
Long Answer: After several hours of troubleshooting with no luck I had her reboot the phone by holding down the red key and choosing to "Power off". Then hold the red key again to turn on the phone. After that it seems the problem went away. I've had her do other things but I'm not sure it was relavent so I'll stop here and see if this helps anyone else.
Huh? This is not a bug that you can simply do away with. The phone is supposed to time out.
On the other hand, I would like the option to adjust the timeout
Screen Backlight Timeout during a call
Is there a way to adjust the screen backlight timeout during a phone call? My timeout is set for 2 minutes, but during a call the screen shuts off so fast it does not let me dial extensions etc, and then pressing menu to light up, then menu to unlock then menu to bring up the keyboard, its kind of annoying. I just measured the time, its about 10 seconds.
This question is NOT ABOUT: Screen/Setting/Sound&Display/ScreenTimeout (that one has its own issues too, but this thread is specific to one issue)
Lol I have the same prob when I do phone banking. By the time I've pressed menu
Then flicked the dial buttons back up iam to late to press the button and have to start
Over again. Its really pissing me off now lol.
Adam
Amen... hopefully one of the developers can make this adjustable
Yes, it's one of my main gripes about the phone function.
They really should have made it adjustable independently of the standard timeout time. Because even voicemail prompts are a pain in the rear.
Power Manager
You can pick up the Power Manager application off of the Andoird marketplace. It allows you to modify the amount of time the screen is on during a phone call.
b2amedina said:
You can pick up the Power Manager application off of the Andoird marketplace. It allows you to modify the amount of time the screen is on during a phone call.
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Really? Must be the new version I don't have. I have the first version and it lacks that function.
Thanks for the tip.
I know this thread is a bit old, but I'm having this problem and its really annoying!
I have the touch pro, and the display timeout while talking is like 5 seconds, and then I have to press that top button to get the screen to come back on, and I have to press it like 3 times till it comes back up. Really annoying when I'm pressing numbers with an automated system like voicemail.
Download power manager from the app store. allows you to change in-call time out and a truck load of other things.
If you want to find it on the net here - http://www.cyrket.com/asset/-5688572614148254173
That was driving me crazy - I changed mine to 30 seconds for in call.
Mods, please merge these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458981
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439369
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
Dipper60 said:
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
Dipper60 said:
Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.
I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.
I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.
Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.
Fallen Spartan said:
I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?
Hi,
I've had use of a Touch Dual for the past few days, but have to send it back due to a fault. Although I'm getting a refund in this situation, I'm thinking of buying another, because I quite like the phone - I just have a couple of questions...
Is there any way of turning off the sound when you dial a number? (the touch-tone sound on each button press)
Also, can it go into a 'standby' mode where you can still see the time (faintly) on the screen, instead of turning the screen completely off? I found it useful with my old phone to be able to just look at the screen to see the time (it displayed it as a kind of screensaver).
Thanks for your help.
I don't own a touch dual (looking at getting one) but I can guarantee you there is a way to turn off the sound when you dial a number, its a standard setting in windows mobile,
as for the faint screen I can pretty much guarantee you theres a way to do it as well, whether you use a lockscreen program like s2u2. it would drain the battery to have it on ALL the time, what you want is something where u just press the middle button and the clock turns on right away, then turns the screen off 10 seconds later, which also you can do.
Thanks for the information orangekid - I thought there must be a way to at least turn off the sound - I'll just have to look around the options in windows mobile a little more when I manage to get a new one.