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can anyone help? I've setup my gmail account in messaging, and can send to myself and others using messaging (send and receive sends fine), BUT I can't get it to receive! pop and smtp servers are setup ok but when I send and receive I get nothing back. I can logon onto my gmail account and see the email sitting quite happily in my inbox.
any ideas?
Hi, I imagine you already have your issue fixed, but if not, are you allowing pocket outlook to auto config the settings?, I skipped this the first few times when first setting my email up, and it seems I always had something wrong, so I let the auto config do its thing, and it works beautifully with gmail.
well, i've stiil not got it working yet, but i'm going through the auto setup as we "speak". so i'll keep you posted.
MM.
how long does the auto setup normally take? it's been sat at the downloading stage for 30 mins now!
Dont know if youve seen this but theres a new app from google for gmail, its java and i couldnt get it to work but others may have success, anyway you can grab it from http://gmail.com/app (using your mobiles browser)
That app doesn't work with the midlet manager on the TyTn
got the same problem with my gmail and also the same problem with the auto configuration. does anyone have gmail working for both sending and receiving? if so can you post the settings? thanks
And me, I cannot send but receive. I was use defalts setting for gmail. If any one want to set by defalts, you must be online! Can any one resolve my problem?
pop.gmail.com:995
smtp.gmail.com:465
no ssl
no domain
use authentification, outgoing settings same
mine is set to connect and check every 15 minutes, and get headers, and 999kb of body.
I just set up my two gmail addys a day ago, I did a hard reset to fix a few issues, all I do is put in my gmail addy, and password when it asks, and it working in minutes.
I didn't pay special attention to your carriers, but I think I might have had issues when I used medianet [email protected], I pay for the pdaconnect plan now, resco radio wouldn't work on wap either.
I dunno what to tell you for sure, but if any of you use cingular, you might give the [email protected] settings a try, but I wouldn't plan on using them permanently you might get a crazy bill.
I'm sure the other carriers have corresponding settings, and I'm just guessin the problem, but that is the only possible difference in our devices, and I'm not sure about your connection.
edit: I don't think any of you are on cingular, I seen tmobile, but I really don't have any ideas on what all the different carriers offer.
Just make sure in GMail on your c mputer you go to settings, tab forward and pop and set up gmail to forward messages to POP ONLY from now on. If you have a lot of messages in Gmail it will take forever otherwise.
Hope this helps.
rilot said:
That app doesn't work with the midlet manager on the TyTn
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Actually found a way to get it to work
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5729.html
Gonna try sky mobile jar using this technique too.
msmobiles.com says that the latest version (6.1) of the IBM J9 JVM for CLDC runs Gmail just fine. Have anyone tried it?
Yes it works, anyone know of a good link to d/l the jar file for sky by mobile
UPDATE
Tried doing sky by mobile app using this method can enter login details but cannot click or use the login key on screen so same as manually installing the jar using default midlet app, very annoying so close yet so far.
rilot said:
That app doesn't work with the midlet manager on the TyTn
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try this http://www.cjmillisock.com/2006/11/how-to-get-gmail-mobile-for-your-t.html
shahril said:
try this http://www.cjmillisock.com/2006/11/how-to-get-gmail-mobile-for-your-t.html
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TyTN already does have Java VM installed.
rilot said:
That app doesn't work with the midlet manager on the TyTn
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Correct, I just installed it for nothing.
joedoe said:
TyTN already does have Java VM installed.
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Then why mine wasn't able to run Gmailapp until I have installed a Java VM?
szlevi said:
Then why mine wasn't able to run Gmailapp until I have installed a Java VM?
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You haven't install a Java VM but one more Java VM, which runs Java applications in a different way.
joedoe said:
You haven't install a Java VM but one more Java VM, which runs Java applications in a different way.
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Possibly but it still doesn't answer the question: why was my TyTn unable to run any Java with its shipping OS?
As per the title I would like my outlook to pick up messages more often than every 15 mins !! I was hoping someone would know a registry hack
ice_coffee said:
As per the title I would like my outlook to pick up messages more often than every 15 mins !! I was hoping someone would know a registry hack
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Can't you just set Activesync to on the Uni to use push mail (if using an appropriate Exchange / other server) or otherwise set the Schedule to 5 minutes (or is that setting only on WM6)?
apd said:
Can't you just set Activesync to on the Uni to use push mail (if using an appropriate Exchange / other server) or otherwise set the Schedule to 5 minutes (or is that setting only on WM6)?
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im using WM6, the lowest is every 15 mins, Windows live messenger can do continuous checking (like push) , but it is buggy im trying to do it with my google mail !! do you know if google support push email !!
Hi
I'm currently running a mail server on a dedicated box (host @ datacenter 30€/month) under linux with courrier-imap. There is a way to implement IMAP IDLE function, that is almost the same than pushing emails.
I actualy tested it without FAM (File Alteration Monitor). Fam allow you to have a realtime email like blackberry. I don't need it, the basic IMAP_ENHANCEDIDLE do a check every minutes and update if there is a mail.
I tested this feature through telnet and it worked lovely.
Now, in order to be able to use this feature over your windows mobile, you have the choice between to softwares.
The first is vgsmail http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ (free trial)
This one will just enable the IMAP IDLE feature on your pocket outlook (seems to be the more elegant way to implement it)
The second is WIS Flexmail 2007 (search at google ) (free trial)
This one is a new client (i don't like to change my use personnaly)
The major problem of the both solutions is that you have to pay for it.
Does anyone can do a patch for pocket outlook to implement imap idle fonction on it ?
Regards.
Reference thread: Here
Check out Seven.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
I'm currently using it too work with my google IMAP account and I get push email. It works amaizing.
I don't know if its what your looking for but give it a shot and see.
I currently use it on my WM6 Hermes device and even though it not supported its working perfectly for me.
Knockz said:
Check out Seven.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
I'm currently using it too work with my google IMAP account and I get push email. It works amaizing.
I don't know if its what your looking for but give it a shot and see.
I currently use it on my WM6 Hermes device and even though it not supported its working perfectly for me.
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Hi, thanks for your tips, btw i like to know something, is it a standalone program or a plugin for pocket outlook ?
Regards.
Its an addon for pocket outlook that manages the account and the push functionality. It also does other types of accounts. It gave me push email for my work account and pop accounts.
You still read/reply and manage your emails using pocket outlook.
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Fantastic, gonna test it tomorrow !
Thanks buddy !
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I tested this solution, sounds like a third party server is getting email from your server :/. It won't be a problem if this project didn't looks like another commercial push (visto like).
Actualy Seven is acting like a visto, sevens server try to fetch mail ~2mn and push it on they proprietary client, who is pushing the message @ pocket outlook.
It means that my mail is going through seven mail server and Seven has all access granted to my mailbox.
I'm just looking for a soft (without thrid party server checking) enabling the IMAP IDLE fonction.
Test of vgsmail & flexmail
I tried to test them with imap idle
vgsmail has been renamed to EmansioPushMail, great, but it just crash my Hermes (Schap's 3.54 ROM). Tried an old cab called Vsgmail-Pushmail.cab (looks like an old beta). Result is the same (just with a different program name )
flexmail is working with imap idle correctly, but it's eating up all my memory (92% busy). So my Hermes just finish to crash cause it don't get enough memory (GPRS+Flexmail+msn+Audio Player).
The both solution are non free ...
Is there a chance to get imap idle implemented on pocket outlook someday ?
A desesperate Linux's mail server admin.
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
WM6 also supports IMAP4 and HTML mails...i don't really see much benefit for another email application...the full device integration will never be as good as with Pocket Outlook, I think.
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maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
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Hi,
Actualy, the option that you are using is wasting a lot of bandwith.
Send/Receive procedure
1/ contact imap/pop server
2/ auth on it
3/ check message
This have an effective cost of bandwith (wich is limited to 10mo/month in my case)
It means that if you use this system you gonna waiste almost all bandwith just to check if there is some mails.
Imap Idle procedure
1/ contact/auth once
2/ enter idle mode
3/ server send a notification to the client entered in idle mode
This solution permit to don't waste bandwith and provide a real push solution (you have to install File Alteration Monitor on your mail server in order to get it) withouth FAM it works also but you can get a delay (less than 1mn).
This solution is the best cause you are not dependant of a third party who's all access on your mailbox (specialy for work purposes)
We don't want to set up any microsoft server or exchange servers (linux ftw).
KarhU said:
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
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I gave a try on it, it doesn't implement imap idle feature, thanks anyway
VOODOOS!L said:
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
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Depends on how often you get incoming mail.
If you only get one message per hour, but want to know within a few minutes of its arrival and set a 5-minute check interval, you're performing a LOT of extra full IMAP resyncs that are unnecessary, which will eat your battery.
There are also a number of other IMAP extensions usually implemented along with IDLE (known as the Lemonade Profile) that significantly reduce data transfers (and battery abuse), the basic IMAP support in Pocket Outlook does not implement these.
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Depends on how often you get incoming mail.
If you only get one message per hour, but want to know within a few minutes of its arrival and set a 5-minute check interval, you're performing a LOT of extra full IMAP resyncs that are unnecessary, which will eat your battery.
There are also a number of other IMAP extensions usually implemented along with IDLE (known as the Lemonade Profile) that significantly reduce data transfers (and battery abuse), the basic IMAP support in Pocket Outlook does not implement these.
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ok, thx for the clarification!
if the IDLE and lemonade would work in Pocket Outlook, would we be able to get push email in combination with the new GMail IMAP support? would be nice and cheap I guess
If you have unlimited text messages, use PushEffect - uses a text message to signal outlook to check email. Works great for me - http://www.qorefunctions.com/
Tranman79 said:
If you have unlimited text messages, use PushEffect - uses a text message to signal outlook to check email. Works great for me - http://www.qorefunctions.com/
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Unfortunately, i don't have any free sms service :/
VOODOOS!L said:
WM6 also supports IMAP4 and HTML mails...i don't really see much benefit for another email application...the full device integration will never be as good as with Pocket Outlook, I think.
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It doesn't support IMAP IDLE - see my related articles
KarhU said:
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
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no IDLE support either - again, make sure you ALL follow my articles - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IMAP Bible
Menneisyys said:
no IDLE support either - again, make sure you ALL follow my articles - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IMAP Bible
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Hi, very interesting article !
Thanks for the link.
I'm actualy in contact with the developper off vgsmail, cause it's really unstable with windows mobile 6 (random freeze works partialy)
I'll back to you when i'll get more information.
Kayser said:
I'm actualy in contact with the developper off vgsmail, cause it's really unstable with windows mobile 6 (random freeze works partialy)
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Anything new on this?
dew.man said:
Anything new on this?
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vgsmail is now Emansio:
http://www.emansio.com
and in my testing it still (version 20070916143800) seems unreliable and buggy on my Kaiser (WM6). Great idea, I wish the darn task manager icon could be removed, and I wish it worked properly. Price is high in USD with the current exchange rates, but I might be able to stomach the basic license if it worked....
Richard
#1 - Is there a way to create backups to the SD card? I saw something when I formatted the phone about restoring from SD, what is that?
#2 - What do you guys have your g-mail sync set to? All? 33 days? Is there a way to set it to sync just like 33 days but then search the archive if I archive things older? If I sync ALL is that going to really slow it down?
Thanks!
#1: yes, you can back-up your data in some way to your SD and then restore it
#2: Don't know if you can search the archive (i suppose not, at least not with the Vodafone-Italy ROM) and sync all may and may not slow down. It depends on how many entries you got into calendar (you were talking about calendar, right?) and how fast is your connection. I use only wi-fi over my ADSL connection so sync takes really few seconds. From the point of view of Android overall speed, i have almost one hundred entries and i've noticed no sensible slow-down.
Hoping this helps.
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#1: yes, you can back-up your data in some way to your SD and then restore it
#2: Don't know if you can search the archive (i suppose not, at least not with the Vodafone-Italy ROM) and sync all may and may not slow down. It depends on how many entries you got into calendar (you were talking about calendar, right?) and how fast is your connection. I use only wi-fi over my ADSL connection so sync takes really few seconds. From the point of view of Android overall speed, i have almost one hundred entries and i've noticed no sensible slow-down.
Hoping this helps.
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I was referring to mail actually, not calendar.
hah2110 said:
I was referring to mail actually, not calendar.
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Ops... sorry... my misread... On my Magic there isn't any configuration about how many days go behind when syncing email nor i can found any setting on the server. GMail client reads first 10 emails from the server then, when i scroll down, it reads next 10 and so on. If i perform a search it search in all emails on the server.
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Ops... sorry... my misread... On my Magic there isn't any configuration about how many days go behind when syncing email nor i can found any setting on the server. GMail client reads first 10 emails from the server then, when i scroll down, it reads next 10 and so on. If i perform a search it search in all emails on the server.
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It is under labels. Primary is 4 days and then there is a day setting for each label there is.
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It is under labels. Primary is 4 days and then there is a day setting for each label there is.
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Under Labels i have "Email notification" check... i have the Ion Rom maybe there is something different
zazy said:
Under Labels i have "Email notification" check... i have the Ion Rom maybe there is something different
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It isn't under notifications. I do the following:
Gmail -> Menu -> Settings -> Labels
The number of days to sync is the "default" (which you customize) but each label (inbox, sent, etc.) can be set to ALL or a custom or the default.
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It isn't under notifications. I do the following:
Gmail -> Menu -> Settings -> Labels
The number of days to sync is the "default" (which you customize) but each label (inbox, sent, etc.) can be set to ALL or a custom or the default.
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Doh! Really never entered this menu before now... I always thought it was for labels management... also if i don't understand the choice tu put this option in this menu... i need more time to play with my magic
ok, I've used the search button, found lots of stuff but not what I wanted or unclear. This is what I want: I want my mails from my gmail adress to be pushed to my HTC HD2. I want them to wake up the device and tell me, I have a mail ( like a text basically )
What do I do, what do I set up, I've tried turning on push, but it seems to be turning itself off or something, it doesn't look on when I go to the manager. If anybody can help me, that would be great. Ow, and we're talking 3G or edge, gprs, not wifi here.
RikfromBelgium said:
ok, I've used the search button, found lots of stuff but not what I wanted or unclear. This is what I want: I want my mails from my gmail adress to be pushed to my HTC HD2. I want them to wake up the device and tell me, I have a mail ( like a text basically )
What do I do, what do I set up, I've tried turning on push, but it seems to be turning itself off or something, it doesn't look on when I go to the manager. If anybody can help me, that would be great. Ow, and we're talking 3G or edge, gprs, not wifi here.
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There's no push feature that I know of, you set how ofter to check for new email, and in notifications you set how to let you know that you have new email.
There you are: http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
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There's no push feature that I know of, you set how ofter to check for new email, and in notifications you set how to let you know that you have new email.
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Completely wrong.
kilrah is spot on, and it works extremely well. The only thing I would add is that it does add to battery drain, so I would disable it at night and other times it is not required. G-profile can be used for this. By the way, it will not work if you are connected to a computer using Activesync, and that computer does not allow connection to the internet (most work networks are set up this way).
so does this keep the internetconnection open all of the time, even when the phone is asleep? I suppose so?
I'm asking that because, when I put the settings on send and receive every 5 minutes, it appears as if the connection stays on after the first send and receive ( for instance, I check pxInternet and it has been connected for 40min ) and yeah, if that were to be the case, why not use push.
thx for the help so far, really, great and to the point.
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so does this keep the internetconnection open all of the time, even when the phone is asleep? I suppose so?
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Yes of course, otherwise the server would have no way to tell the phone there's something new for it. If you close the data connection in the connection manager it will warn you this also deactivates push.
I've found the idle data usage and battery drain is minimal (at least on 3G). Push on for one night drained 8% battery, which is pretty much the same as without it (~6%). Data usage was under 100kB, and I received 2 mails during the night. Makes great savings, as doing a send/receive on my IMAP account easily uses around 200kB, which would happen every 5 mins or whatever is set for automatic checking, and by extension less traffic = less battery usage...
EDGE might use more battery as there are more keepalive signals.
I agree with Kilrah, I have my calendar, contact and email all synced through google and i don't notice any obvious battery drain compared to when push is turned off.
I use ActiveSync to sync my Gmail account and the push works fine.
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kilrah is spot on, and it works extremely well. The only thing I would add is that it does add to battery drain, so I would disable it at night and other times it is not required. G-profile can be used for this. By the way, it will not work if you are connected to a computer using Activesync, and that computer does not allow connection to the internet (most work networks are set up this way).
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Because Google Sync works via ActiveSync, you can adjust the settings for ActiveSync (e.g. only during peak times). So no need to use G-profile.
PUSH mail is avalaible on GMail with HD2. Look here : http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
can you synch/push more than 1 gmail account with this method?
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Because Google Sync works via ActiveSync, you can adjust the settings for ActiveSync (e.g. only during peak times). So no need to use G-profile.
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How do you do that please?
As well as the battery/data aspect I would rather not have my sleep disturbed by the "bings" of new emails!
In activesync, menu -> scheduling.
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How do you do that please?
As well as the battery/data aspect I would rather not have my sleep disturbed by the "bings" of new emails!
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ActiveSync > Menu > Schedule. And just set Off-peak times to Manually so you won't be disturbed when sleeping
At the bottom click on: "Adjust peak times to fit your schedule"
Sleep well
Thanks Guys!
I have set that up to push my main Gmail account and am using Gudusoft email scheduler to check the other one every 30mins.
Let's see how will it works now!
Sync issues
Anyone having any issues sync'ing with calender.
For some reason the only way I can sync at all is with that one disabled.
Currently I'm only using push with email and contacts only since the other won't work.
Can't believe I didn't know that google offered this service now...yes I just found out today reading this forum...
Been waiting too long for this...
Hello, I have some problems with gmail...
When HD2 turns off (standby), it doesn't sync my emails (haven't tried contacts or calendar yet). When I go to activesync to check what happened there are 2 possibilities:
1) If I am home (wifi always on even in standby mode) I get an error (0x80004004). Btw even with wifi on it still keeps the data connection on (?!?!?)
2) If wifi is off it starts syncing when I open activesync.
Any help would be appreciated
EDIT: Seems like there is no problem when wifi is off after all. I guess having wifi always enabled is a problem because it automatically disables 3g...
i want to share my cheap way of getting my emails from Gmail on my phone
via MMS !! so since I am on TMobile (i dont know if it works for other carriers..a simple google search shall do )
so basically i forward all my emails to the email id
[email protected][B]tmomail.net[/B]
where phonenumber = your 10 digit number...
so lets say my phone number is 1-212-000-5000
all i do is forward my gmail to [email protected] and presto !!
everytime i get an email it notifies me...and since i have unlimited messaging (MMS is free too) the messages shows completely !!!
backlashsid said:
i want to share my cheap way of getting my emails from Gmail on my phone
via MMS !! so since I am on TMobile (i dont know if it works for other carriers..a simple google search shall do )
so basically i forward all my emails to the email id
[email protected][B]tmomail.net[/B]
where phonenumber = your 10 digit number...
so lets say my phone number is 1-212-000-5000
all i do is forward my gmail to [email protected] and presto !!
everytime i get an email it notifies me...and since i have unlimited messaging (MMS is free too) the messages shows completely !!!
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Hmmm....I should try that!
If it works, I'll definitely press that Thanks button in your post.
sumflipnol said:
Hmmm....I should try that!
If it works, I'll definitely press that Thanks button in your post.
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first try sending a test mail from ur gmail a/c to yourself and if it doesnt work try adding '1" in front of your number ! hope it works for you too...