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I am trying hard, coming from android but its very difficult the apps are so lacking. I do miss my google sky maps, and my real working gps. For some reasons gps on the HD2 is garbage, I dont even know if it works.
Open market is a big help on the HD2, and following a lot of tweaks, its manageable , I dont want to risk flashing it.
Any app recommends?
flash the device
resco explorer is good
zenonia is a great game for windows as is ivy the kiwi
what else? chainfire graphic acceleration
gtx5 theme
I don't do gps really at all...never have so that's an app I don't use...
tcpmp/coreplayer will help
Dutty's Task Manageris a must have.
I would post the link but I'm not allowed to since I'm a new member. You can find it in the Apps repository thread.
HD2
Hi,
I too came back to Winmo from android, and to be quite honest I miss nothing.
Yes I dont have the cool Bic concert lighter app, or the flashing cop car light app, but the phone does what its supposed to do. Its a productivity thing.
Keeps track of my work Exchange account, my other 3 email accounts. Edits Office documents on the fly, oh and has the best screen ever placed on a phone.
And the GPS works great on this phone. No you cant get the free turn by turn Google app, but for 29 bucks (its a steal) you can get Co-Pilot, which works well and doesnt require an internet connection to guide you. Try out the Co-Pilot, it works really well for me, and it now has TTS for street announcement and free live local search!
fhaines
Your GPS works fine, open google maps, hit menu, press "Use GPS", then press the small blue box which contains a small light blue dot on the bottom right side of the screen. Be sure to give the phone enough time to connect to the satellites displayed on the top right side of your screen.
I've never had a better GPS on any phone.
I like my HD2 after using it over 2 weeks.
However, I wish the standard keyboard was better. I HATE hitting the 'xt9/abc' toggle when I want to hit a or z. I also HATE accidentally hitting the show/hide icon for the keyboard and hiding the keyboard while I'm typing. I converted over to Swype due to this.
I also wish the HTC Messaging app didn't lag. I makes the phone feel slow when I'm trying use this app.
I'm coming from android too and to be honest I was thinking on cooking my Own Rom cause all of the ROMs available are not to my liking either to sloooow or crappy icons or maybe missing some tweaks and home tabs BUT! I rather Go back to my android (Had it since day 1)
I given up hope on HD2 sad I know I expected to be WWAAAAYYYY much more of a better phone.
I got the phone 2 weeks ago But I find myself using my G1 more.
so I'll prob sell it on Craigslist and get a N1 (which was my actual fir option)
You will probably endup doing the same
I like my HD2 Hardware not the operating system
Bitter sweat to say the least. I really like this phone, it has some crazy advance features over today phones but the software (WindowMobile / Sense UI) has really let me down. I did my research (as I do with all phones) so I was really excited to try something new (I have an iPhone) but it's been more headaches than joy.
The only reason why Im holding on to it is in hopes WP7 or Android ROM comes soon, as of right now, I've swapped my sim back into my iPhone.
Well, I took the plunge and did what i feared the most. I added a ROM and I'm loving this phone. No more lag, freezes, bugs, or having to have 10 cabs installed.
digitallysick said:
I am trying hard, coming from android but its very difficult the apps are so lacking. I do miss my google sky maps, and my real working gps. For some reasons gps on the HD2 is garbage, I dont even know if it works.
Open market is a big help on the HD2, and following a lot of tweaks, its manageable , I dont want to risk flashing it.
Any app recommends?
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best device i've owned (and i've had about 8). just get the tweaks so customize it and add a few key apps (for me: resco explorer, resco photo viewer, iGo8 -GPS - work great for me, & core player). my device runs almost flawlessly.
without a doubt this is the best windows mobile device I have run to date everything is flawless!\
trust me when I say this
MESS WITH A CUSTOM ROM
you will love your device. its as easy and fast as a jailbreak
digitallysick said:
I am trying hard, coming from android but its very difficult the apps are so lacking. I do miss my google sky maps, and my real working gps. For some reasons gps on the HD2 is garbage, I dont even know if it works.
Open market is a big help on the HD2, and following a lot of tweaks, its manageable , I dont want to risk flashing it.
Any app recommends?
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If apps are you're looking for, it'd be best to go back to Android. Apps are not the strongest draw of the HD2. App development for windows mobile is essentially dead, as developers are now focusing on WP7.
On the note of GPS, it works great for me. I use it every morning on the way to work (helps me navigate around traffice jams).
So far love the build quality as its super solid with no slop like my former TILT and Fuze. The only issue I have is with the camera design which stick out too far and is unprotected from fingerprints and scuffs. The case they provide really doesn't shield it. WISH they would have kept the same design as the Euro/Asia specd HD2 so that accessories could be interchangable. They have some really good cases for the HD2 but not the TMobile versions. Getting screen protectors that truly fit and not leave gaps seems to be a problem as well. LOVE the screen and true capacitive touch.
Software so far - only owned it a week at most and its not been used all that much is pretty fast and the screen is amazing. Wished the bluetooth caller id announce worked and had the ability to record conversations which does not work. Status and other things work fine - so maybe they'll be some fix in the future.
BIG issue is with the 3g network reception. Goes from EDGE to 3g at will. Seems to lock on 3g when return from standby or power up for a few minutes then it will jump to E. Been doing this since I got it - don't think its a design/hardware issue just requires an update in the radio. Will not return it as in more populated areas it locks on 3g and stays locked. Will see. Had AT&T before so not too familiar with TMOBILE in my area. Download speeds are only in the 800 range. ATT in great area would get around 1200.
Voice quality so far is on par or better than AT&T but the volume could be a little higher even with it set full high.
For the price I paid with a new two year contract of (99 - discount code) 75 through a 3rd party and I get the AAA activation waived and 14% off my bill I definately can't complain. Ordered the phone last Monday - received it Wenesday.
Loving my HD2 with the energy tom
stim141 said:
So far love the build quality as its super solid with no slop like my former TILT and Fuze. The only issue I have is with the camera design which stick out too far and is unprotected from fingerprints and scuffs. The case they provide really doesn't shield it. WISH they would have kept the same design as the Euro/Asia specd HD2 so that accessories could be interchangable. They have some really good cases for the HD2 but not the TMobile versions. Getting screen protectors that truly fit and not leave gaps seems to be a problem as well. LOVE the screen and true capacitive touch.
Software so far - only owned it a week at most and its not been used all that much is pretty fast and the screen is amazing. Wished the bluetooth caller id announce worked and had the ability to record conversations which does not work. Status and other things work fine - so maybe they'll be some fix in the future.
BIG issue is with the 3g network reception. Goes from EDGE to 3g at will. Seems to lock on 3g when return from standby or power up for a few minutes then it will jump to E. Been doing this since I got it - don't think its a design/hardware issue just requires an update in the radio. Will not return it as in more populated areas it locks on 3g and stays locked. Will see. Had AT&T before so not too familiar with TMOBILE in my area. Download speeds are only in the 800 range. ATT in great area would get around 1200.
Voice quality so far is on par or better than AT&T but the volume could be a little higher even with it set full high.
For the price I paid with a new two year contract of (99 - discount code) 75 through a 3rd party and I get the AAA activation waived and 14% off my bill I definately can't complain. Ordered the phone last Monday - received it Wenesday.
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If you're looking for a really nice case that protects the camera, check out the leather cases at noreve.com. The leather flip case is very nice and you get to choose from different leather types and colors. It's made for the euro version, but it fits my tmous hd2 fine. Protects real well, too. Dropped my hd2 on my driveway the other day... couple small scuffs on the case, but phone is fine.
I too came from android g1, I didnt realize how much i loved android when I first got the HD2, After I figured out how to operate it, took about 48 hours, figured out how to sync it with WMDC got all my contacts and email. IT FREAKIN ROCKS. I am so impressed with syncing up with outlook on my computer and to my hd2. I have pretty much found all the same type of comparable apps as android. but so i love it!
I have also flashed it with a new rom as as long as you follow the instructions step by step, and use tested radios and roms. watch youtube videos so you know what goes on with your phone during the process so you dont get freaked out.
Are You Happy-Discount?
stim141 spoke about a discount code...paying only $99.00, as well as other "deals." Where did you get that code and how do you apply it?
I'm, in LA been living on the Edge with my Advantage 7501 onTMobile. Would rather have 3G than Edge, and a slimmer device.
And what ever happened to the 4.8 inch HTC Thoth (Athena2)?
bagua
I love my HTC HD2 running energy ro and battery lasts way longer than it did with stock rom
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I love my HTC HD2 running energy ro and battery lasts way longer than it did with stock rom
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Hm people I have heard people say that ROM eats batteries. Nice to see yours is lasting longer. This is my top rom to use when I get the energy to root my phone, kinda scared as of now.
BUT YES..... I love my phone even through the freezes, bad reception, and constant 3g loss of signal.
Hi guys,
I have been struggling with this issue since I have bought this phone, but today I have solved it. When it slows down , I have checked the task manager and it says the manila.exe was eating 98% of the memory. I tried everything, then one of my friend needed my memory card and I gave him mine and then suddenly my HD2 went back to race car situation. I played with it 3 hours nothing changed so that concluded that memory card was defective. I have formatted it nothing changed and bought a new one. Now everthing is perfect. I cannot say this is the solution but it solved mine. You may try it.
Good luck
Bro, thanks but this problem has been answered before.
Its known that the micro sd m2 slows down the phone.
so basically the memory card it comes with is trash and you'll have to replace it or keep your phone running slow?
Didn't work for me.
tekhizuz said:
Hi guys,
I have been struggling with this issue since I have bought this phone, but today I have solved it. When it slows down , I have checked the task manager and it says the manila.exe was eating 98% of the memory. I tried everything, then one of my friend needed my memory card and I gave him mine and then suddenly my HD2 went back to race car situation. I played with it 3 hours nothing changed so that concluded that memory card was defective. I have formatted it nothing changed and bought a new one. Now everthing is perfect. I cannot say this is the solution but it solved mine. You may try it.
Good luck
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i am not sure what class the sd card is that comes with our hd2's but i experienced the same thing. i just upgraded to a class 6 8gb card and the difference has been huge for me in terms of performance.
actually just your average class 4 SD card would make the phone perfome WAAAY beter.
I remeber when I purchase my HD2 and notice that it came with a 16GB class 2 card I was actually disappointed so I started using my 8GB class 4
So what ur all saying is that the major cause of phone lag is attributed to the cheap memory card?
Going to a class 6 from the garbage class 2 that came on the phone made a huge difference for me.
it will also improve the battery, especially for the people like myself that use the phone as an MP3 player. The battery drains so fast when I play music even with screen off....Im gonna look into a better sd card. It sucks though, the pack a craptastic Class 2 sd card and a small ass 1250 battery to power this massive screen. That still baffles me.
we shouldnt have to buy these
we should all just call tmobile and complain or take it to the tmobile forums, we all paid good money for these devices, last thing i need to do is go by something my phone already came with beacuse tmobile decided to cheap out.
When I got my phone I immediately swiched it out with my blackberry 16gb card. Everything T-mobile is trash except for the phone itself, I wish Verizon or AT&T wouldve gotten it. Coverage is behind horrible in my city with T-mobile. LOL
dukins said:
When I got my phone I immediately swiched it out with my blackberry 16gb card. Everything T-mobile is trash except for the phone itself, I wish Verizon or AT&T wouldve gotten it. Coverage is behind horrible in my city with T-mobile. LOL
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Coverage kicks ass in my city. Sucks to be you huh. LOL
jiggahj i feel the same way,i didn't even buy the phone yet and i already have to shop fo a new memory card,thats BS.
ummm wait wait... im kind of lost here... what do you mean by "class 2" "class 6" sd card?! >.> my phone started to slow down just today and yea.. when i take out my card its all cool... so so.. what are those classes? i never saw anything written like that on any card... and i had quite a bunch >.>
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ummm wait wait... im kind of lost here... what do you mean by "class 2" "class 6" sd card?! >.> my phone started to slow down just today and yea.. when i take out my card its all cool... so so.. what are those classes? i never saw anything written like that on any card... and i had quite a bunch >.>
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It's the write speed. They all read about the same. It's fast. But writing to them is much slower so they class them. You'll see a little number next to the company logo on the card. (2). The class 2 isn't horrible, but they had a batch. I used mine for a long time with no problems. But I did upgrade to a class 4 and things were better. Class 10 is the fastest that I know of but they are pricey.
Wow, i feel stupid for not knowing what the different classes were.
thanks. i'll be getting a new memory card soon
I rebooted my HD2 a couple of times because it was running SLOOOOW. Didn't understand what could be causing it - so using the dotfred task manager I discovered that for some reason Microsoft Voice Command was eating 100% of my CPU time...ha. I disabled voice command and all went back to normal. I rebooted a couple of times & re-enabled voice command and it seems to be ok now.
yeah the hd2 is a really great phone, the only thing keep alot of buyers away is the lag/freezes ): I think rooting and putting a custom rom will also solve it.
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It's the write speed. They all read about the same. It's fast. But writing to them is much slower so they class them. You'll see a little number next to the company logo on the card. (2). The class 2 isn't horrible, but they had a batch. I used mine for a long time with no problems. But I did upgrade to a class 4 and things were better. Class 10 is the fastest that I know of but they are pricey.
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OH HELL! There really is a lil "2" icon on my sd
But then... It was pretty fast like 2 weeks ago for me. now... it just slowed down... i have two "class-2" cards 2gb and 8gb ones, and 2gb is actually much faster rotfl. I just having troubles with BROWSING my files on card cause even my "file explorer" lags when i do >.> So yeah.. it used to be better..
and yup. i hard reseted my phone and formatted my cards. didnt really helped me.
i tried replacing my memory card from class 2 to class 6. it still hanged
i still have to wait for the text message/s to arrive before i can resume doing anything on it
Hey there guys, i will be receiving my new HD2 soon in the mail sometime next week and i have a few questions which i hope you guys don't mind answering. My first question how well does it run on the device? Compared to android which runs amazingly with no hitches just as a normal android device would. Are there a lot of bugs present? Could i just install WP7 on it and use that instead of android without there being show stopping bugs present? and lastly how is the battery life on WP7 compared to the android roms?
Many thanks.
Oh this is a big question, im not going to go in to detail now so if you have any further questions than ask away, but for now here is the no BS low down
Does it work, yes, very very well, its quicker than any OS i have ever used, including native iphones, android and even WP7.
Notable bugs include the marketplace freeze, some times the marketplace just packs in and you have to do a reboot to get it working again, i believe thats true to all WP7 devices tho
next, sometimes, very very rarely for me, the touch screen seems to stop, usually a swipe in the opersite direction then try again gets it working in moments
The camera has an issue with focusing, because we dont have a two stage button we cant focus to well, the flash for the camera is slightly out of sync meaning any photo in sub optimal light that uses the flash would result in a photo with a green tint to it. There is an alternative camera app already that is great, it has focus but the flash issue remains.
The battery life isnt too great, this seems mostly due to the differences in the battery controller, WP7 may or may not report the correct battery level, it may appear to drop very fast but that is usually because you didnt charge it fully in the first place, some times you have to restart the phone and charge again to fill it up.
and now the big one that im not going to go in to great detail on
SD cards
this is the single biggest course of almost all issues with the phone, if you have a dodgy card you will get wifi issues, restart issues, lagging issues etc
there is no list of compatible cards, no two cards are alike even within the same model, statistically you have a better chance with a class 2 or 4 card, but thats not to say you will have problems will all class 10 cards
I used to use android and there isnt any chance of me moving back, yes you cant mod the hell out of this but since i got itm, ive not wanted to, it just works and it works very well
i agree 100 %
but i have no trouble in the marketplace - i have downloaded manny games an other apps. with my old sd-card i have a very slow installation but now all is ok.
WP7 works on the HD2 as well as on any native device. I can tell that because I had also a Mozart for 2 weeks and could do a head to head. All the bugs present (Marketplace crashing from time to time) are also present on the native device, so they are not HD2 related in any way.
Battery life is OK for me. With some tweaks I can get a full they of moderate to heavy usage (3G on, 2 e-mail [email protected] min. sync, 1 hr IE surfing, 30 min. gaming and 30 min calls).
To be honest I boot Android lately only to show off to some pathetic DesireHD owners
I agree with all the replies so far. And dazza is completely correct about the SD cards... most issues people are having is because of using a sd card that doesn't play nice with wp7. I haven't had any issues with marketplace, and have had great luck using sandisk class 2 and 4 cards. Every other brand of card I've tried, including kingston, was terrible with wp7.
The main difference between the hd2 and native wp7 phones is that the hd2 only has 56,000 colors while native phones have around 4million colors, and you only get 2-point multitouch with HD2, and it can be kinda buggy, while native wp7 devices all have at least 4 point multitouch... so certain apps that use multitouch may not work properly or at all with the HD2.
Multitouch is the only problem
I have found that on my hd2 that wp7 worked a lot smoother than the native rom. I am very pleased with this OS. It has convinced me to buy one in the near future. which will be in a couple of months
mine works 100% perfect except multi-touch sometimes doesn't work too well. Battery life is good, marketplace never freezes, I have had zero issues with my SD card, speed and fluidity are good.
All the other issues seem to be WP7 and not HD2 related. i would much rather have this over a "real" wp7 device because at least I can boot into Android whenever I want.
I had my first taste of WP7 today, it was really just a taste test to help me decide what to upgrade to when my upgrade is due, I was impressed enough to make my decision.... (Omnia7 in case you were wondering)
I was only running it for about and hour and a half but everything seemed flawless, the activation code I got from MS worked fine and I was up and running in minutes. The only disappointing thing was that although I imported my contacts from my Gmail account no numbers came through. Everyone was there but they had no numbers
The UI was super smooth and the keyboard was far and away the best I have used yet..........
The phone did seem to be getting pretty hot while using it though.
Also the lack of a traditional "taskbar" was quite annoying, I like to see a battery meter at all times.
Overall very impressed though.
Wow thanks for the descriptive replies guys, so it appears to run very stable, I suppose. I'll just give the wp7 a shot first right off the bat instead of android!
unleashed12 said:
Wow thanks for the descriptive replies guys, so it appears to run very stable, I suppose. I'll just give the wp7 a shot first right off the bat instead of android!
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Haha... to make a short statement... and "abusing" your nickname, one could say HD2 feels kind of "unleashed" with WP7.
Enjoy it
tictac0566 said:
Haha... to make a short statement... and "abusing" your nickname, one could say HD2 feels kind of "unleashed" with WP7.
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i 100% agree with the statement Unleashed with WP7..
and i do agree with the SD card problems.infact,make sure what ever sd card you have,to be a class 4 sandisk on your HD2.as it's the most stable on hd2 with os wp7.
Enjoy!!!and Read as much as you can for your HD2 on XDA mate..
I will also buy a "original" WP7 device.
Do anyone of you know when Dual core smartphones will come out?
I don't want to buy an "old" 1Ghz model, I heared Nvidia has brought Tegra 2 and even 3 is there now which has Quad Core.
Any news about that?
As of now I haven't seen any WP7 phone utilize the tegra processor or any other dual core processor available. There are however many android phones which are using dual cores coming soon. the tegra 3 is still in development if im not mistaken.
orangekid said:
mine works 100% perfect except multi-touch sometimes doesn't work too well. Battery life is good, marketplace never freezes, I have had zero issues with my SD card, speed and fluidity are good.
All the other issues seem to be WP7 and not HD2 related. i would much rather have this over a "real" wp7 device because at least I can boot into Android whenever I want.
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What's your setup? I'm assuming you have a TMO US phone? Radio, ROM? I'm about to flash and it would be a great help.
I agree with all the reply's here too! I bought my Hd2 after a long line of HTC phones purely so that i could use custom ROM's and take the p**s out of anyone with an iphone. My phone using WM6.5 was "my PC in my pocket". It did everything! I was a bit dubious about installing WP7 on it because its like going from XP to Windows 7. You get used to what your used to. I do use things such as the flashlight and voice recorder and i didn't want not to have those things that i use so much.
After i installed WP7 i loved the way it looked, animations are beautiful, its so smooth. Im also glad to say all the apps that i used on WM6.5 are available from the marketplace. I dont think i could go back to WM6.5 now. It seems too clunky compared to WP7.
I do have the same issues as everyone else with the dodgy camera, its not bad in daylight though, and i love the 720P camcorder. Battery life has been an issue but ive done the registry tweaks that have been talked about on the forums and im getting good results at the mo. Very close to WM6.5 in fact. WIFI and SD cards have not been a problem, mind you i am using a 16GB Sandisk.
When you do install WP7 on your HD2 just make sure that you get an activation code from Microsoft first thing! It makes the whole "WP7 experience" MUCH better!!
I think i truly have been turned into a Windows phone 7 fan. I just cant wait to see what ROM's and apps some of the chefs on here can cook up in the next few month's!!
ive been using it for about 2 months and it worked really well. i had the issues that everyone else had experienced with the marketplace, but this didnt happen that often. only thing you need to check is your SD card. there are a few threads about which SD cards work, but these are all unofficial. i have a topram (rebadged sandisk) 16gb SDHC class 4 and that works ok, but its not great (but it was £12.99!!)
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ive been using it for about 2 months and it worked really well. i had the issues that everyone else had experienced with the marketplace, but this didnt happen that often. only thing you need to check is your SD card. there are a few threads about which SD cards work, but these are all unofficial. i have a topram (rebadged sandisk) 16gb SDHC class 4 and that works ok, but its not great (but it was £12.99!!)
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Why do you call topram a rebadged sandisk?
well enough for some bugger to sell 15 guides and the DWI.exe on eBay
HERE
jigners said:
well enough for some bugger to sell 15 guides and the DWI.exe on eBay
HERE
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That's nothing... there was another guy that sold almost 500(last I checked) at $25 each.... he made over $10,000 in less than a week!!!
I ordered my DVP from Clove on Thursday and it arrived on Friday - I decided to go with them rather than Dell directly given the various communication issues people have had with Dell.
My DVP is 8GB - I'm assuming there is only one version of the phone for the UK market, I haven't seen any option to buy a 16GB version. So far, everything has worked smoothly - it came loaded with firmware .7350 if I remember correctly, I then got the prompt to upgrade to NoDo pretty soon after - that was done very quickly, nothing like the 23 minutes that Microsoft suggested.
All in all, I'm happy - no crashing whatsoever, interface is very smooth and quick, etc. My only complaint so far is the lack of custom ringtones - this should've been addressed in NoDo and its pretty obvious that Microsoft has held back on this to try and make money - the only simple alternative is to get ringtones from the Marketplace which Microsoft of course makes a commission on. Oh yeah, my other bugbear is the battery life - it's pretty horrendous, I'd say I struggle to get a day out of it! Is that normal?
These small things aside, I'm pretty happy with the DVP at the mo.... any other UK owners having a similar problem-free usage?
I am an Omnia 7 owner but I've been thinking about switching. Just a couple of points:
- Dell is selling the 16GB as far as I know, someone else can confirm that.
- Battery is something that improves overtime, you need to go through a few charging cycles. During the first days I would suggest letting the battery die before charging the phone rather than straight when you hit low power.
Can you comment on the issues the US phones are having (Wifi connection, poor camera, etc.). And also, is the SD card slot still accessible?
Cheers
Peew971 said:
I am an Omnia 7 owner but I've been thinking about switching. Just a couple of points:
- Dell is selling the 16GB as far as I know, someone else can confirm that.
- Battery is something that improves overtime, you need to go through a few charging cycles. During the first days I would suggest letting the battery die before charging the phone rather than straight when you hit low power.
Can you comment on the issues the US phones are having (Wifi connection, poor camera, etc.). And also, is the SD card slot still accessible?
Cheers
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I have the 16gb model (uk) which is the model dell sells directly. if you buy throgh a third party you can only get the 8gb model at the moment.
can good in light but poor in the dark (bluring)
the sd card has the black tape over it and the manual says not to remove it.
i only get crashes/hangs when downloading large files from the marketplace and when trying to download a video through the youtube apps.
I can't believe after all this time they're still producing the phone with the same camera issue. What have they been doing with all the feedback?! I know they have an upcoming update but it should have been one to fix the firsts phones with the new ones being flawless. Dell needs a good kick.
Sent from my Omnia 7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I can second the comments re the camera, it isn't particularly good in the dark.
I didn't realise that Dell was selling the 16gb model - and its only £20 more than what I paid for the 8gb. That said, if the difference is hangs and crashes I'm not sure if its worth it. Ganondolf, could you give me an example of what apps (or large files) you were downloading - I'd like to test and see if I have the same crashing. If I don't then I'll probably stick with the 8gb.
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I can second the comments re the camera, it isn't particularly good in the dark.
I didn't realise that Dell was selling the 16gb model - and its only £20 more than what I paid for the 8gb. That said, if the difference is hangs and crashes I'm not sure if its worth it. Ganondolf, could you give me an example of what apps (or large files) you were downloading - I'd like to test and see if I have the same crashing. If I don't then I'll probably stick with the 8gb.
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if happens alot when i download big apps live xbox live games 30 - 80mb in size. crashes/hangs abot 70% of the time. I have noticed if i leave it on the download status screen till it downloads and installs it crashes less.
small apps up to 10mb dont usually have a problem.
I also get it within the youtube apps as they have large files.
I am about 99% sure that it is the micro sd card as when download big files and i go to my apps list it sometimes does not show the app icon and only a dot like temp icon and sometimes apps wont load whilst downloading.
Also if download has a problem it buggers the wifi and needs to tuen the machine off and back on to fix. of note it does not need a battery pull to turn it off, holding down the power button for a long period (10 secs) turns it off.
I think it was a good thing you got the 8gb as i may need to swap the sd card meaning i will buy a 32gb card so it would not have been any different if i upgraded from a 8gb.
PS. I sent a msg to linoel at dell on twitter and he thinks i have the newest firmware and there will not be a new one released for the uk.
apart from that the dvp runs perfect so if a sd card swap will fix the problem i will do it in the near future.
So the newest firmware still has a rubbish camera. It's sorted then, I'll keep my Omnia 7 for now and see what comes at the end of the year.
hi guys im new to the dvp forum.
i have a dell venue that i bought online from a guy in USA which is unlocked. when i got the phone i noticed that the black sticker wasnt there so im guessing the guy attempted to swap the sd card....the phone works fine tho.
the problem i have is that it wont restart!! when i go to about >> reset your phone.. nothing happens. is there anyway to fix this?? i hope someone can help as i cannon download any apps from the market place and assign my facebook =(
thanks
There is no carrier to the UK DVP phone is it? That makes future update quicker. And I hope it has 512mb ram. Guess the US one did has 256mb ram, games crashes constantly on the US device, which seems not happen often on others.
The US one has 512MB RAM.
I don't want to start the discussion again. I believe it has 512 but currently only 256 is recongnised by the system, when the software uses above 90m ram it will crash by itself, ie some games. This doesn't happen to the htc mozart but happens to DVP. If you believe now it has 512 and its fully used then believe it, since it doesn't affect your usage.
In response to the 256 v 512 discussion - I certainly saw all of that discussion with the US DVPs. My UK DVP shows 480mb free and so is presumably recognising all 512mb RAM. Somebody else mentioned that the UK DVPs already have the new upcoming firmware preloaded - so maybe that's addressed the problem.
My battery life has also improved greatly - not sure whether it's because of going through some powering cycles or because I disabled both checking for updates and giving feedback, but its lasting a lot longer than before now.
I also have the 8g UK DVP model through expansys, mine also reads about 480m free so im assuming it has the 512ram. as well...
As for problems ive had none,
NO crashes,
No freezes and NO resets yet....
All in all im loving the DVP and the battery is good better than my HTC Desire that i have left behind without a second thought!!!!
I got my phone from Expansys and it is freezing constantly when using WiFi and downloading apps. Indeed 480 MB of RAM is reported.
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I got my phone from Expansys and it is freezing constantly when using WiFi and downloading apps. Indeed 480 MB of RAM is reported.
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Did you change the SD or you use the one comes with? I'm thinking to call expansys for exchange...
I have lots of freezes and hangs on my UK 16gb model (from dell.co.uk) when using wifi.
I changed the sd card to a sandisk 32gb class 4 (I here the class 2 version is best for dvp) and have not had a hang or freeze using wifi.
Works flawlessly know.
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I have lots of freezes and hangs on my UK 16gb model (from dell.co.uk) when using wifi.
I changed the sd card to a sandisk 32gb class 4 (I here the class 2 version is best for dvp) and have not had a hang or freeze using wifi.
Works flawlessly know.
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Question on your WiFi hangs.....I've been looking at WiFi issue. During the course of a day I may pass through and use, many different WiFi AP's. At home I made a modification of my AP and now the reception on my Dell is far better.
I'm wondering if the hardware in hte Dell is simply inferior....in a way that it works best with specific settings....as opposed to alot of devices that work fairly well regardless of the AP settings.
I've noticed the closer I get to a pure N setting, the better my device runs. The amount and length of feezes and hangs decrease as I approach that complete N mode.
People who experience the hangs and freezes at home. What are your AP settings?
Dont think it has anything to do with AP settings, my phone will crash without connecting to any wifi signal, just with wifi enabled.
alodar1 said:
Question on your WiFi hangs.....I've been looking at WiFi issue. During the course of a day I may pass through and use, many different WiFi AP's. At home I made a modification of my AP and now the reception on my Dell is far better.
I'm wondering if the hardware in hte Dell is simply inferior....in a way that it works best with specific settings....as opposed to alot of devices that work fairly well regardless of the AP settings.
I've noticed the closer I get to a pure N setting, the better my device runs. The amount and length of feezes and hangs decrease as I approach that complete N mode.
People who experience the hangs and freezes at home. What are your AP settings?
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Im using wifi g at home and work and it works with no problems. the only thing i would say the dvp wifi reciever does not go as far from the router before disconnecting than my brothers iphone 4 and my old xperia x1.
have not tried connecting it to wifi n but have not had any problems on wifi g.
What do you mean by "AP settings". are u talking about the phone or the router?
I've ordered a 32gb class4 sansicc from amazon.co.uk but it seems to be a fake one... It freezes the device even more than the original SD card. 3 months ago I had one from the same seller and it was ok, now still in my US DVP and works perfect. The 2 sds do look different. BE CAREFUL when you buy the sd card. Just too many fakes...
Ok- theres a thousand of these threads already but heres one more if anyones interested.
Only had device about 6 hours but these are my impressions so far. upgrading from a galaxy s. There were only 2 things i didnt like about galaxy s when first got it -lag and gps.
1-speed is incredible. No lag anywhere and ive reinstalled all my apps. phone didnt even lag when bulk installing all my apps off market, and even had a game of angry birds when phone was downloading and installing. load times next to galaxy s hugly improved. It will be nice not keep flashing firmware hoping to find one that doesnt lag.
2- gps is a huge improvment on galaxy s 1, my s 1 was fine for in car navigation but useless for my tracks that relied on raw gps data. I did a my tracks in car with phone on car seat under metal roof and the track was pretty good- a lot better than sgs 1 was winscreen mounted. Google maps indoors puts me in the correct room of the house upstares and even gets a lock downstares. On google maps it reports less accuacy the sgs but is constantly a lot more accuate in where the arrow is so all good
3 wifi- ok but sgs had stronger signal, can still pull 2 meg upstairs in bedroom same as galaxy s but shows less wifi bars.Very usable but a little bit worse than sgs imo.
4 browser is very good and fast but the check board effect is horrible- i imagine it will be sorted out in future firmware though.
5 screen is very nice indeed,nothing else to say really
This is all ive really tested for now but must say i love this phone mainly for the speed and functional gps.
sammy555 said:
Ok- theres a thousand of these threads already but heres one more if anyones interested.
Only had device about 6 hours but these are my impressions so far. upgrading from a galaxy s. There were only 2 things i didnt like about galaxy s when first got it -lag and gps.
1-speed is incredible. No lag anywhere and ive reinstalled all my apps. phone didnt even lag when bulk installing all my apps off market, and even had a game of angry birds when phone was downloading and installing. load times next to galaxy s hugly improved. It will be nice not keep flashing firmware hoping to find one that doesnt lag.
2- gps is a huge improvment on galaxy s 1, my s 1 was fine for in car navigation but useless for my tracks that relied on raw gps data. I did a my tracks in car with phone on car seat under metal roof and the track was pretty good- a lot better than sgs 1 was winscreen mounted. Google maps indoors puts me in the correct room of the house upstares and even gets a lock downstares. On google maps it reports less accuacy the sgs but is constantly a lot more accuate in where the arrow is so all good
3 wifi- ok but sgs had stronger signal, can still pull 2 meg upstairs in bedroom same as galaxy s but shows less wifi bars.Very usable but a little bit worse than sgs imo.
4 browser is very good and fast but the check board effect is horrible- i imagine it will be sorted out in future firmware though.
5 screen is very nice indeed,nothing else to say really
This is all ive really tested for now but must say i love this phone mainly for the speed and functional gps.
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The wifi signal bars aren't reliable. Some people get full speed with only one bar, others keep losing the connection with all bars . It's the speed that counts, not the amount of bars it shows. Maybe it will get fixed in a firmware update .
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The wifi signal bars aren't reliable. Some people get full speed with only one bar, others keep losing the connection with all bars . It's the speed that counts, not the amount of bars it shows. Maybe it will get fixed in a firmware update .
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well if you look at it like that its as good as sgs then, nothing in it upstairs