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Battery died in a night!!

My hermes standby time was about 2-3 days depending on my usage. but two days ago, i charged my hermes to %100 and then i slept, when i woke up in the morning, my tytn was closed, i tried to open, but it did not.. So when i pluged the charger, red light flashed and then yellow, which means my battery was fully empty and started to be charged, so it worked again.
And now it takes about 2 hours to be fully charged, but it only takes 4 hours to be completely discharged again!!! It happened so suddenly! As i know, batteries die slowly, not that much suddenly??! Do you think there could be another problem?? Or is it just my battery?? is it possible that my battery died in one night??!

I could think of a couple of things...bad battery, faulty device, or you are just doing so much with the phone that the battery is being drained. Do you keep bluetooth turned on, and wifi, and have your phone polling for new emails every 15 minutes? That will most certainly drain the battery really quick. Also, do you have the device set to automatically hibernate when not in use? I just received a new 8525 due to warranty 4 days ago, and I have not done any modding to it yet. Off the bat, I noticed that my battery life has significantly increased.

djan84 said:
My hermes standby time was about 2-3 days depending on my usage. but two days ago, i charged my hermes to %100 and then i slept, when i woke up in the morning, my tytn was closed, i tried to open, but it did not.. So when i pluged the charger, red light flashed and then yellow, which means my battery was fully empty and started to be charged, so it worked again.
And now it takes about 2 hours to be fully charged, but it only takes 4 hours to be completely discharged again!!! It happened so suddenly! As i know, batteries die slowly, not that much suddenly??! Do you think there could be another problem?? Or is it just my battery?? is it possible that my battery died in one night??!
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There are causes depending on the battery and causes depending on the hermes:
Battery:
1> The battery has a certain lenght of life. This type of battery is very sensitive and can be charged around 300 and 500 times. Each time you connect the charger you "consume" a bit of the life. Nothing to do with memory effect but with the physic of lipo batteries. How old is your battery?
2> Lipo batteries can not be discharged below a certain voltage (3.00 volt per cell. The hermes battery is a one cell type). If this happens, you kill the battery (short capacity, impossible to charge,...) The pda is normally equiped with a circuitry able to avoid this.
PDA:
1> You can have running applications burning power. But you know that
2> In certain circumstances, the motherboard can have a problem and starts to burn your battery. This is a hardware problem which needs MB replacement. This problem is described in the maintenance manual of the hermes and is tested by service people when a hermes is refurbished.
You can try the following:
1> Fully load your battery and close all applications (No phone,nothing). See what happens in one night
2> Fully load the battery and shut the pda down. See if the battery remains fully loaded. If it is not the case, try again with the battery out of the phone. If the battery is partially/totally discharged with the battery out of the pda, the battery is dead.
3> See how much your phone consumes by using this application: http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbPowerMeter/acbPowerMeter-Overview-2.html
Start your hermes without anything loaded (no phone,...) With backlight on (default level) and nothing running except this application, the level will be around 70mA (average). Without backlight, you would be around 25mA. At least this is what i get on mine (rom,... see my signature). This test is very dependent of the OS and the radio rom loaded
This will not repair your battery, but i hope this will help you to identify the problem

" As i know, batteries die slowly, not that much suddenly??!"
yes like humans batteries age and die after awhile
but all electronics like humans can die of a "heart attack" too

Thank you everyone is very helpful here Well i found the reason for my short stanby time, i am using pays rom 1.31 and there is a program called HSDPA switch, somehow when i uncheck the `Turn on HSDPA` box, everything seems to be normal again!! After a deep searching week, now i know the problem. I know its very odd, but when i re select that box, again my battery finishes in about 2 hours... Strange yep..

Touch 3G incorrect battery indicator when charging?

The indicator always stop at certain %, but it show full charged after soft reset /////Does anyone has same issue?///

I have the same problem

I have no problem on my Jade. Try install ArielBattery (freeware from xda) .. this app shows detail battery % to 1% increment.

I've the same pb. After one night charging, the led doesn't turn red. But this is not critical.

Try not to suspend the 3G during charging, but only switch off the backlight

this problem was by me too in November,
make a hardreset. It has helped me.

I made hard reset before 2 months.Still i have this pb

ya me too....
notice its sometimes only. after off and on back its ok

same problem here.
Back to the store tomorrow

Another battery drain problem - driving me CRAZY!!

I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.

I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..

Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?

Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.

The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery

led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .

aidinali said:
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.

Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".

I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.

I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...

Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.

i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14

Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time

I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA

Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.

samlives said:
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.

I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok

Used 8% in 24 hours
Fallen Spartan said:
Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks

So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?

Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am

Battery does not charge properly when D2 is off

Hi,
I noticed the following problem on my Diamond 2:
If I turn off the phone for night charge it never shows green in the morning.
The only way to see that amazing green light is to charge the phone whent it is turned on.
Of course I applied the latest hotfix - no use for the off mode charging. And of course I wrote to htc - will not waste your time repeating their suggestions.
And I am not happy with my phone battery life - it hardly endures one working day - lets say - 10 hours...
ROM - Official, yet.

orlean said:
Hi,
I noticed the following problem on my Diamond 2:
If I turn off the phone for night charge it never shows green in the morning.
The only way to see that amazing green light is to charge the phone whent it is turned on.
Of course I applied the latest hotfix - no use for the off mode charging. And of course I wrote to htc - will not waste your time repeating their suggestions.
And I am not happy with my phone battery life - it hardly endures one working day - lets say - 10 hours...
ROM - Official, yet.
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I never turn my phone off so the green light problem never arises. However I will check and see if occurs.
As for battery life, you will need to give it a few weeks of use before you see maximum battery life.
Make sure you don't continually discharge the battery (better still keep it charging whenever you can) and you should see improvement over time.
Unlocking and replaceing the ROM can also have a significant effect on battery performance as does the Radio version in use. That's going to need some work on your part but the improvements are there to be had.
Some apps that are in common use are also power hungry and can cause a significant drain on power.
And if you install your apps to mem card then again that uses more power than installs to phone storage memory.
You can also turn off any unused background apps and processes.
Only turn on Bluetooth and WiFi when needed.
All these things help.
Personally I carry a spare standard battery with me at all times and strangely since I bought it I haven't needed to us it. The placebo battery effect?

Thanks for the answer.
About the battery usage conseption:
You suggest that I plug my phone each time when possible?
I thought that as the battery has XX recharges according to the specifications it is not good to charge each time whenever you got AC or USB access
I started to follow your recommendation anyway.
For example however - my laptop is never (when possible) with battery in it. I use the battery only when necessary, becasue in the user manual is written that has 300 cycles of recharging. And I always wait until completely discharged before charging. That is how I began treating the Dimond, too.

orlean said:
Thanks for the answer.
About the battery usage conseption:
You suggest that I plug my phone each time when possible?
I thought that as the battery has XX recharges according to the specifications it is not good to charge each time whenever you got AC or USB access
I started to follow your recommendation anyway.
For example however - my laptop is never (when possible) with battery in it. I use the battery only when necessary, becasue in the user manual is written that has 300 cycles of recharging. And I always wait until completely discharged before charging. That is how I began treating the Dimond, too.
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With Lithium Ion batteries the "quoted" numbers of "rechage" is is an approximate equivalent to give some idea of life expectacy.
It's a hangover from the old NiCad battery days and is not really very helpful when applied to Lithium Ion usage.
The most important aspect of LIon is it's ability to hold it's voltge at max current for longer than other technology. It does this best when well charged and maintained at near max as possible as often as possible. The downside is it's life expectancy which does deteriorate over time.
If you require max daily useage then max charging whenever possible will give you this and you will have to accept that the battery will at some point loose it's charge retaining capabilities and will have to be replaced.
For most of us that's the most important thing.

This is not a battery issue, I believe that this is a software one.
I noticed this morning, having left my phone on charge, and 'off', all night, that the indicator light was still red. When I switched on the phone, it showed only 80% charged.
Having seen this before, I carried out a soft reset, the battery indicator then showed fully charged.
So the battery is charging fully, but the battery charge indicator is showing less than that.

Is my battery b*ggered?

So for the past few weeks my battery has been draining faster than the speed of light. It will get to anywhere between 30 - 70% (usually about 56%) and it will just turn off. Like straight to dead, no powering down.
When I try to turn it on again I get a white screen with a picture of an empty battery.
If I plug it is, I get the charging screen showing a battery percentage the same as it was when it crashed.
I've done a factory reset, wiped the cache, tried it with no third-party apps, all sorts. But it's still the same. I'm having to charge it 4 or 5 times a day and it's only getting about 30 mins of usage before it dies.
It tends to happen the most with the camera or Snapchat but I don't think it's related to those as it will also do it in other apps and even the lockscreen.
Is it time to call it quits and send it to the phone shop in the sky?!

I had this weird problem with my battery too! MXPE on stock nougat , as soon as I charged my phone to 100% and plug out it used to drop below 80 in 2 minutes ! and then when the percentage hit ~20% It used to turn off showing that white screen you mentioned, however when I plugged the phone in it would start charging at ~15% ! so I tried recalibrating my battery and it is surprisingly effective !
here is the method:
1) drain your phone battery until it shuts down.
2)power it on again and you will see that white battery low picture. plug the charger for 3 or more seconds and out, it will boot up again but as soon as the Rom boots up the phone will die again . do it multiple times.
3)charge the phone while it is off until 100%. turn it on and drain the battery as fast as possible (max brightness, volume, streaming videos on cellular data and running benchmarks will do ) till the phone dies again.
4) repeat (2)
5) charge the phone up to 100% while it is off ! and there you go your battery is recalibrated and good to go!
Obviously, this will shorten the batteries lifespan but since I believe you have it for a long time It won't be an important matter!

Thank you. I think I'm going to bite the bullet and treat myself to the new OnePlus 5T when it goes on sale tomorrow but I will try your advice as this will be a good backup phone to keep for emergencies as it's not worth much to sell on or trade in.

Try removing the back with a heatgun and unplugg and plug de battery.

I'm having the exact same issue and tried the same solutions, no help. It's dying now after a couple minutes. I'm carrying around a battery pack.
Seems to me my troubles started after updating to Nougat. You?